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Just a quickie...haha My wifes ipad will run iphone apps, it just blows them up and it looks like a$$. Does anyone with an android tab know how this works with android apps? Are all apps pretty much for all android devices?
Google has taken into account a "Fragmentation API" this will ensure that all apps off your phone will work and look good on your xoom.
kenhunt said:
Google has taken into account a "Fragmentation API" this will ensure that all apps off your phone will work and look good on your xoom.
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But, this is assuming the app has been coded using the new SDK. It does not automatically take in to account apps that have been coded for Froyo or before.
My guess is that it will be the same as the iPad. Until the app is made specifically for large screen devices, it will be like blowing up a low resolution image.
This is kind of stupid. there should be an option to resize it or just center it. I got a g tablet and it is horrible that some apps just get to the left corner but the controlls get where ever they want. Some apps are unusable with this kind of things. I bet that some apps for froyo will do the same thing on the xoom if the same thing happens and it get resized by default.
Pazzu510 said:
This is kind of stupid. there should be an option to resize it or just center it. I got a g tablet and it is horrible that some apps just get to the left corner but the controlls get where ever they want. Some apps are unusable with this kind of things. I bet that some apps for froyo will do the same thing on the xoom if the same thing happens and it get resized by default.
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On the ipad you have iphone size which is centered or 2x...2x looks like a$$ and I didn't buy a 10 in screen to look at a cell phone sized app. Thanks for all the replies.
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yep, it would look like a$$, but it is much better to have a centered app than an unusable app. XD
i will add this question to "for those on the borderline, what do you want to know" thread
Android scales apps. So for something like a music player it will probably look like ass. For a game it will scale very well and should look relatively OK until they update the graphics to fit the resolution the Xoom is hitting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMJpkQ2flss
That should show you approximately what will happen.
muyoso said:
Android scales apps. So for something like a music player it will probably look like ass. For a game it will scale very well and should look relatively OK until they update the graphics to fit the resolution the Xoom is hitting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMJpkQ2flss
That should show you approximately what will happen.
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This is 100% what i wanted to see thank you.
muyoso said:
Android scales apps. So for something like a music player it will probably look like ass. For a game it will scale very well and should look relatively OK until they update the graphics to fit the resolution the Xoom is hitting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMJpkQ2flss
That should show you approximately what will happen.
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Yep some of them do, but they are usually the high quality apps like angry birds and tank hero. Some other´s, many, just get deconfigured in the screen or just force close.
Hope honeycombs fix this in an inteligent way. I agree that games might not be playable, but many apps that can be just not resized and used well enough.
Cheers for honeycomb.
Hoping once its hacked up, i can run lcd density on it also
App developers are already updating their apps to Xoom resolution, like SpeedX.
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The apps look fine. The only thing that would look like ass is really low quality, low resolution images. The phone scales properly made elements so apps coded right will scale. They might not utilize the space properly.. but they wont look bad. I used ES File Explorer and it scaled really well.. and a comic reading app was perfect.
Will the new tW update address the really bad lag in the typing?
It is painful at times really this is the worst aspect of the GT10.1
deppeler said:
Will the new tW update address the really bad lag in the typing?
It is painful at times really this is the worst aspect of the GT10.1
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Yes. I'm running Caulkins km7 touchwhiz and I have no typing lag at all.
I'm using the LTE version with 3.1 and there is no typing lag. I had the Xoom for a few weeks (returned it) and it had the lag.
BTW, yesterday in a 4G area I got Almost 27Mbps down and over 8Mbps up!
What about the general lag from swiping between home screens, especially on Portrait? What about in the app drawer?
I am willing to forgive all of Honeycomb's faults, except general lag in the UI on a stinkin Dual Core! Is NVidia to blame? Or Google?
I have no typing lag or Homescreen lag whatsoever and I tried 3 ROMS
you guys should post videos...
Yes. running the above rom listed and is smooth..typing and scrolling..still not as fluid as my ipad 2 but getting closer!!! Wish it had a better cpu and dedicated gpu...other than that...love this 10.1.
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Use the Caulkins TW Rom and be amazed.
Eddog4DROID said:
What about the general lag from swiping between home screens, especially on Portrait? What about in the app drawer?
I am willing to forgive all of Honeycomb's faults, except general lag in the UI on a stinkin Dual Core! Is NVidia to blame? Or Google?
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To me it seems like Google is at fault. Now the Tab has no lag after TW US Rom so it means it has something to do with OS.
tabing said:
Use the Caulkins TW Rom and be amazed.
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link please? i can't seem to find it...
EDIT:
oops found it! nevermind :
is this it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1188320
~Scott~ said:
I'm using the LTE version with 3.1 and there is no typing lag. I had the Xoom for a few weeks (returned it) and it had the lag.
BTW, yesterday in a 4G area I got Almost 27Mbps down and over 8Mbps up!
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When you type in a form, like say when you are replying to a post here on XDA, does the text box highlight in blue? That blue highlight seems to be the cause of the lag. In the aftermarket browsers like dolphin that have the blue box, there is lag. Browsers like opera with no blue box, no lag. The samsung browser in the touchwiz roms has no blue box and no lag.
Its the rendering engine. Turn off opengl rendering and its gone..I think its opengl. Somewhere in the debug settings?
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When you type in a form, like say when you are replying to a post here on XDA, does the text box highlight in blue? That blue highlight seems to be the cause of the lag. In the aftermarket browsers like dolphin that have the blue box, there is lag. Browsers like opera with no blue box, no lag. The samsung browser in the touchwiz roms has no blue box and no lag.
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When using the stock browser, the box is highlighted in blue but there is no lag in the text entry to the box. I just ran another test to really try to slow it down by typing in it WAY faster than normal input and no problems.
I use Opera because it allows drop down menus and I need these for particular browser application programming (like the Cisco CallManager web interface) but I had no issues with the stock browser other than that.
Also, I haven't noticed any lag in the other areas of the UI. So far I am generally pleased with this tablet and absolutely amazed with some aspects of it like the quality of the screen and the crazy fast 4G speeds.
Kayak83 said:
Its the rendering engine. Turn off opengl rendering and its gone..I think its opengl. Somewhere in the debug settings?
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No that doesn't fix it, lag is still there.
I gotta think it's a conflicting app issue. I have stock non-rooted Tab and see no lag.
This seems to be such a common problem for android phones and tablets. Even with deodexed, slimmed, optimized roms and overclocked kernels, it just boggles my mind that the homescreen is the slowest part of the android experience. Other apps scroll smoothly and are responsive, but the homescreen is jerky and slow.
Try this: Long click an icon and drag it around the screen. The thing can't follow even a moderately fast-moving finger. And that's just a simple icon moving on a 2d plane. But then, I can run a playstation emulator in 3d without problems.
The same thing has been true on my G1, SGS, Droid Charge, GTab 10.1, and Moto Droid 1.
Am I missing something?
i dunno mayne its the snap to grid that causes it because flipping back and forth from pane to pane is smooth.
Coming from the transformer, this was the first thing i actually noticed. One thing that would help is to change the default wallpaper to one of your own. It actually improves it significantly
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I have a Xoom on 3.2 and the home screen is really smooth. I have looked at many Touchwiz videos on Youtube and it seems very laggy compared to my Xoom. But i guess i will soon see it in person, just ordered a GT10.1 3G.
Only reason that your tab or phone are laggy on homescreen is due to either wallpaper or widget,
To fix it get wallpaper wizardrii and set to no scroll.
In regards to the icons well notice that you have additional few more effects when you tap and hold icons, there is stransparency, grid etc. If you want to move icons from app dock to homescreen it shows both at the same time, and homescreen is active not paused.
Ios will never be able to do this there is just to much
At the moment my tab is acting really weird.
My wallpaper is scrolling although it should not, screen is absolutely jitter free all that happened since I've activated kies via wifi and deselected usb debugging (needed it to install drivers)
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Can't say mine is laggy at all but I'm not using the stock launcher. The latest "UEKMB" slim Launcher2 with enabled hw acceleration and Multipicture LWP looks and feels extremely smooth. I have no comparison to another Honeycomb Tablet but I can't really see it getting noticeable "smoother".
cryptyk said:
This seems to be such a common problem for android phones and tablets. Even with deodexed, slimmed, optimized roms and overclocked kernels, it just boggles my mind that the homescreen is the slowest part of the android experience. Other apps scroll smoothly and are responsive, but the homescreen is jerky and slow.
Try this: Long click an icon and drag it around the screen. The thing can't follow even a moderately fast-moving finger. And that's just a simple icon moving on a 2d plane. But then, I can run a playstation emulator in 3d without problems.
The same thing has been true on my G1, SGS, Droid Charge, GTab 10.1, and Moto Droid 1.
Am I missing something?
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I have the same problem.... Before the Touchwiz update my homescreen was very laggy, after the update it became less lagy but you can still feel it when scrolling which, I gotta tell you is the most annoying thing... IS there any way to make my homescreen smoother? I've tried wallpaper wizardrii which helped but after awhile the wallpaper cuts in half... I have no more than 5 widgets on my Tab and i'm still amazed on how bad the screen lag is.... I
I'm using ADW Launcher EX, and the screen is super smooth/responsive. The latest version has a high-density option, so we still get the big icons. It's $2 or $3 but it's worth it, and the other thing is to disable the scrolling desktop.
Give it a try. I'm not sure why the stock launcher is so choppy, but they could learn something from the folks who made ADW.
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Side note: My current ROM/Kernal is completely stock. No root, no OC, and ADW is still silky smooth. BUT... it was even smoother when I was running my Tab at 1400 with AutoKiller.
Adw launcher is great. I use it on my Xoom & it makes it fly.Try it on the 10.1 & give us some feedback.
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I see the lag on my Tab that is described by the OP.
However, I do NOT see it on my HTC Thunderbolt phone running Go Launcher EX.
Arun01 said:
Adw launcher is great. I use it on my Xoom & it makes it fly.Try it on the 10.1 & give us some feedback.
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I just finished installing ADW launcher ex and its A LOT smoother than stock, the transition from landscape to portrait view is still a bit droggy but that's probably because of the widgets. I'm loving the new look ADW gave my tablet.
I too was very frustrated with the homescreen lag on my 10.1. I installed ADW Launcher EX and it has been super smooth and givees you some neat options for homescreen transition effects too. Give it a try.
do a search.
Its because Google has little to no interest in fixing the UI/gpu/hw acceleration issues.
Your phone tablet apps launcher etc have nothing to do with it. Its a fundamental issue with Android that has been ignored and no intention of real fix.
xManMythLegend said:
do a search.
Your phone tablet apps launcher etc have nothing to do with it.
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Based on the number of people that just said the stock launcher is laggy, and the aftermarket ones are not, I would say the launcher has quite a lot to do with it.
cryptyk said:
Based on the number of people that just said the stock launcher is laggy, and the aftermarket ones are not, I would say the launcher has quite a lot to do with it.
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Who made the stock launcher?... Google...
It is well known that Google cuts corners in relation to standardization and hardware acceleration. Instead the focus on incrementally updating release numbers instead.
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cryptyk said:
Based on the number of people that just said the stock launcher is laggy, and the aftermarket ones are not, I would say the launcher has quite a lot to do with it.
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Lag and framerate drops happen across the ui not just the launcher. It is an Android problem not anything device specific.
I have a standard (scrolling, but not live) wallpaper, 5 widgets and maybe 30 shortcut icons on my desktop/homescreen. Scrolling from one to another is silky smooth (3.1 TW). On one occasion it was quite laggy, it seemed like it had gone from hw accel'd to software for no obvious reason.... Quick reboot fixed it, though.
While it's probably true some performace issues lie with google, I'd wager most problems lie with users and developers doing things badly (or trying to do too much).
I deleted the social hub widget and my homescreen does not lag at all anymore.
tghockey07 said:
I deleted the social hub widget and my homescreen does not lag at all anymore.
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THIS. Widgets. Remove them.
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Admit you have no real friends.
Remove the social widget.
????
PROFIT!
Mine varies from ROM to ROM. I actually get the smoothest experience on stock 3.1 no TW.
Basically what the title has said. I'm looking for a rom that has stock honeycomb on it. I'm not really a fan of touchwiz never really was. I know that I could of search for it. I got distracted about reading about the Newton rings. Apparently there on my tablet. If someone can help me I would appreciate it. Thanks.
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But without touchwiz you will lose important hardware features of the tablet. Stock honeycomb is a highly incomplete OS and touchwiz fills in many of the gaps.
5thElement said:
But without touchwiz you will lose important hardware features of the tablet. Stock honeycomb is a highly incomplete OS and touchwiz fills in many of the gaps.
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So basically there's no hope in me getting a non honeycomb rom?
Alopez_45 said:
So basically there's no hope in me getting a non honeycomb rom?
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I assume you're rooted. Maybe if someone had a nandroid of the virgin HC rom for you to download?
BTW, I assume you mean "non-TouchWiz"
Alopez_45 said:
Basically what the title has said. I'm looking for a rom that has stock honeycomb on it. I'm not really a fan of touchwiz never really was. I know that I could of search for it. I got distracted about reading about the Newton rings. Apparently there on my tablet. If someone can help me I would appreciate it. Thanks.
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There is a sticky bigger than me:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171089
It helps if you visit the dev forum...
Phantom Hacker is working on a vanilla 3.2 port as we speak
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5thElement said:
But without touchwiz you will lose important hardware features of the tablet. Stock honeycomb is a highly incomplete OS and touchwiz fills in many of the gaps.
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Like what exactly? That doesn't even make sense.. Are you forgetting the 10.1 shipped with stock 3.1?
PhantomHacker said:
Like what exactly? That doesn't even make sense.. Are you forgetting the 10.1 shipped with stock 3.1?
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Don't bother PH, you don't know what you are getting into.
5thElement said:
But without touchwiz you will lose important hardware features of the tablet. Stock honeycomb is a highly incomplete OS and touchwiz fills in many of the gaps.
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I would also like to know what exactly Touchwiz adds (besides cartoonish icons, widgets and a few new bugs that vanilla HC didn't have)?
BTW I know what i'm getting into
Alopez_45 said:
Basically what the title has said. I'm looking for a rom that has stock honeycomb on it. I'm not really a fan of touchwiz never really was. I know that I could of search for it. I got distracted about reading about the Newton rings. Apparently there on my tablet. If someone can help me I would appreciate it. Thanks.
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I run the Blazar non-TW ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1200387&highlight=blazar
Not a single problem, and managed to watch video for pretty much all of a 10.5 hour flight the other week.
poisike said:
I would also like to know what exactly Touchwiz adds (besides cartoonish icons, widgets and a few new bugs that vanilla HC didn't have)?
BTW I know what i'm getting into
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You get the all important screenshot button right next to the most used button on the status bar, so whenever you accidentally hit it instead of the button you wanted you get a pointless image added to your gallery.
Tee Hee that made me laugh.
I am disappointed at the lack of dev activity though. I too prefer AOSP to TW and was hoping for a huge dev scene.
Im honestly amazed at how little education people here have about TouchWiz.
TouchWiz is by far the most advanced software you currently can get on a tablet. The user experience it provides is light years ahead of anything else out there, even Honeycomb 3.2.
Not only that but TouchWiz gives you access to specific hardware you cant access without it. The ability to change color temperature of the screen is a HUGE feature you can only have with toucwiz.
Here are just a few of the features you get from TouchWiz that you cant get anywhere else :
1. REAL multitasking just like in Windows. You can have TWO apps open at once on the same screen and not have to switch back and forth. There is nothing like this available in the market or in 3.2. HUGE props to Samsung for doing this.
2. Ability to change color temperature of the screen.
3. One touch wifi file access to tablet from PC <-- AWESOME
4. Sluggish menu scrolling in vanilla Honeycomb are gone! It looks like
Samsung devs used video hardware acceleration for scrolling which creates a smooth experience compared to Vanilla honeycombs laggy jumpy scrolling in may menus.
5. Awesomenew notification/settings popup menu. FAR superior to stock Honeycomb.
6. One touch screen capture button in the task bar takes a snap shot of the screen and automatically saves to a folder.
7. Lots of cool QUALITY widgets not like the junk you find in the market.
8. Motion gestures
9. Superior App Manager/ RAM manager which can run ON TOP of any app you are running.
10. BEST Music app and runs super smooth. Much better than stock H.C. or anything in the market
11. BEST Ebook reader app you can get.
12. Your tablet will run FASTEST with touchwiz. Samsung is using hardware acceleration for menus like Apple. Stock HC uses software rendering which is why its so slow and laggy. You cant get hardware acceleration if you dont have TouchWiz. No the Devs here will not be able to add it as its beyond their capabilities.
The list goes on and on. TouchWiz is simply a superior experience than stock HC. I would even dream of using my tab without it. Your tablet is incomplete and missing features to access hardware if you dont have TouchWiz.
Really? I guess it's a personal thing then. I used TW for a week before deciding I COULD do without out LOL.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought TW was JUST a GUI and nothing else! It shouldn't offer superior app management and ram management... and as for the apps you mention, well we all have choices via the android market.
5thElement said:
Im honestly amazed at how little education people here have about TouchWiz.
TouchWiz is by far the most advanced software you currently can get on a tablet. The user experience it provides is light years ahead of anything else out there, even Honeycomb 3.2.
Not only that but TouchWiz gives you access to specific hardware you cant access without it. The ability to change color temperature of the screen is a HUGE feature you can only have with toucwiz.
Here are just a few of the features you get from TouchWiz that you cant get anywhere else :
1. REAL multitasking just like in Windows. You can have TWO apps open at once on the same screen and not have to switch back and forth. There is nothing like this available in the market or in 3.2. HUGE props to Samsung for doing this.
2. Ability to change color temperature of the screen.
3. One touch wifi file access to tablet from PC <-- AWESOME
4. Sluggish menu scrolling in vanilla Honeycomb are gone! It looks like
Samsung devs used video hardware acceleration for scrolling which creates a smooth experience compared to Vanilla honeycombs laggy jumpy scrolling in may menus.
5. Awesomenew notification/settings popup menu. FAR superior to stock Honeycomb.
6. One touch screen capture button in the task bar takes a snap shot of the screen and automatically saves to a folder.
7. Lots of cool QUALITY widgets not like the junk you find in the market.
8. Motion gestures
9. Superior App Manager/ RAM manager which can run ON TOP of any app you are running.
10. BEST Music app and runs super smooth. Much better than stock H.C. or anything in the market
11. BEST Ebook reader app you can get.
12. Your tablet will run FASTEST with touchwiz. Samsung is using hardware acceleration for menus like Apple. Stock HC uses software rendering which is why its so slow and laggy. You cant get hardware acceleration if you dont have TouchWiz. No the Devs here will not be able to add it as its beyond their capabilities.
The list goes on and on. TouchWiz is simply a superior experience than stock HC. I would even dream of using my tab without it. Your tablet is incomplete and missing features to access hardware if you dont have TouchWiz.
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1. 6 predefined apps, you call this REAL multitasking!? I have no use for these apps, except maybe calculator that i have used once.
2. I have no need for that. And i think there are apps in Market that can do this?
3. How? Has this something to do with that thing called Kies? I refuse to use this ****.
4. The menu scrolling has never been sluggish on my Xoom, so i don't know what you are talking about.
5. Awesomenew notification/settings popup menu? Yeah, design is little different.
6. I have accidentally used that screen capture button a few times, other then that i have no use for this. There are lot of apps in Market that can make screenshots.
7. I really tried to use those "cool QUALITY widgets" just to give Samsung and Touchwiz a fair chance. I couldn't stand them for longer then a week. Then i downloaded the same widgets i used on my Xoom.
8. Motion gestures... yes, this feature bugged me also until i chose "never ask again".
9. I have never used or needed a App Manager/ RAM manager on Xoom. Why would i want to use this on GT10.1?
10. I must admit, i have never tried the BEST Music app. I use Google Music.
11. I have never used the BEST Ebook reader app either, so i can't comment on this.
12. Your tablet will run FASTEST with touchwiz? Maybe my GT10.1 has a hardware problem, but i don't see that it runs faster then my Xoom.
So i don't really see what touchwiz added, besides that gray bottom bar, which really bothers me the most. If i could get a vanilla 3.2 ROM, i would be very happy.
Of course this is my personal opinion and i'm not saying that GT10.1 isn't a good tablet.
poisike said:
So i don't really see what touchwiz added, besides that gray bottom bar, which really bothers me the most. If i could get a vanilla 3.2 ROM, i would be very happy.
Of course this is my personal opinion and i'm not saying that GT10.1 isn't a good tablet.
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It is recommended to read the white papers on TouchWiz to understand why its so important if you have a Tab 10. Lag of hardware acceleration without it is one feature alone that should have everyone on board with TouchWiz. Not only that but samsung is releasing an api to allow you to add any app into the mini launch bar.
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Really? I guess it's a personal thing then. I used TW for a week before deciding I COULD do without out LOL.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought TW was JUST a GUI and nothing else! It shouldn't offer superior app management and ram management... and as for the apps you mention, well we all have choices via the android market.
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Can you do without touchwiz? Sure if you only use your unit to check email and view a webpage but then why did you buy a tab 10? Also you are wrong on many account...
There are no apps in the android market that will give you true multitasking like touchwiz.
There are no apps in the market that will allow you to change the color temps of the screen.
There are no apps that will allow you to obtain a superior notification menu
There are no apps in the market that will allow you to add hardware acceleration to the GUI.
There are no apps in the market that will allow you to do a at LEAST a dozen more important Tab 10 related features.
5thElement said:
Not only that but samsung is releasing an api to allow you to add any app into the mini launch bar.
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That would be great, but I would like to see proof of this statement.
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5thElement said:
Im honestly amazed at how little education people here have about TouchWiz.
TouchWiz is by far the most advanced software you currently can get on a tablet. The user experience it provides is light years ahead of anything else out there, even Honeycomb 3.2.
Not only that but TouchWiz gives you access to specific hardware you cant access without it. The ability to change color temperature of the screen is a HUGE feature you can only have with toucwiz.
Here are just a few of the features you get from TouchWiz that you cant get anywhere else :
1. REAL multitasking just like in Windows. You can have TWO apps open at once on the same screen and not have to switch back and forth. There is nothing like this available in the market or in 3.2. HUGE props to Samsung for doing this.
2. Ability to change color temperature of the screen.
3. One touch wifi file access to tablet from PC <-- AWESOME
4. Sluggish menu scrolling in vanilla Honeycomb are gone! It looks like
Samsung devs used video hardware acceleration for scrolling which creates a smooth experience compared to Vanilla honeycombs laggy jumpy scrolling in may menus.
5. Awesomenew notification/settings popup menu. FAR superior to stock Honeycomb.
6. One touch screen capture button in the task bar takes a snap shot of the screen and automatically saves to a folder.
7. Lots of cool QUALITY widgets not like the junk you find in the market.
8. Motion gestures
9. Superior App Manager/ RAM manager which can run ON TOP of any app you are running.
10. BEST Music app and runs super smooth. Much better than stock H.C. or anything in the market
11. BEST Ebook reader app you can get.
12. Your tablet will run FASTEST with touchwiz. Samsung is using hardware acceleration for menus like Apple. Stock HC uses software rendering which is why its so slow and laggy. You cant get hardware acceleration if you dont have TouchWiz. No the Devs here will not be able to add it as its beyond their capabilities.
The list goes on and on. TouchWiz is simply a superior experience than stock HC. I would even dream of using my tab without it. Your tablet is incomplete and missing features to access hardware if you dont have TouchWiz.
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Do you work for Samsung, or did you grow up at a time when they still used lead paint on childrens' toys?
5thElement said:
Im honestly amazed at how little education people here have about TouchWiz.
TouchWiz is by far the most advanced software you currently can get on a tablet. The user experience it provides is light years ahead of anything else out there, even Honeycomb 3.2.
Not only that but TouchWiz gives you access to specific hardware you cant access without it. The ability to change color temperature of the screen is a HUGE feature you can only have with toucwiz.
Here are just a few of the features you get from TouchWiz that you cant get anywhere else :
1. REAL multitasking just like in Windows. You can have TWO apps open at once on the same screen and not have to switch back and forth. There is nothing like this available in the market or in 3.2. HUGE props to Samsung for doing this.
2. Ability to change color temperature of the screen.
3. One touch wifi file access to tablet from PC <-- AWESOME
4. Sluggish menu scrolling in vanilla Honeycomb are gone! It looks like
Samsung devs used video hardware acceleration for scrolling which creates a smooth experience compared to Vanilla honeycombs laggy jumpy scrolling in may menus.
5. Awesomenew notification/settings popup menu. FAR superior to stock Honeycomb.
6. One touch screen capture button in the task bar takes a snap shot of the screen and automatically saves to a folder.
7. Lots of cool QUALITY widgets not like the junk you find in the market.
8. Motion gestures
9. Superior App Manager/ RAM manager which can run ON TOP of any app you are running.
10. BEST Music app and runs super smooth. Much better than stock H.C. or anything in the market
11. BEST Ebook reader app you can get.
12. Your tablet will run FASTEST with touchwiz. Samsung is using hardware acceleration for menus like Apple. Stock HC uses software rendering which is why its so slow and laggy. You cant get hardware acceleration if you dont have TouchWiz. No the Devs here will not be able to add it as its beyond their capabilities.
The list goes on and on. TouchWiz is simply a superior experience than stock HC. I would even dream of using my tab without it. Your tablet is incomplete and missing features to access hardware if you dont have TouchWiz.
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Yeah, I'm sorry, but TW doesn't improve my experience.
As a matter of fact, TW seems to have been designed by Samsung to lock users in to their proprietary ecosystem. Unfortunately, I do not believe software development--on the scale that Apple and Google, and allegedly Amazon is building out--is a part of their core competency. I am not sure Samsung has what it takes to build an ecosystem that provides the user experience on the level that Google already provides--so I do not want Samsung's Social Widgets, Music Hub, or whatever other service they are trying to push on me.
The only reason I purchased the Galaxt Tab 10.1 is because of the superior hardware design and quality with respects to other Android Tablet manufacturers, and quite frankly, their TW software just gets in the way. I really dislike having their proprietary software forced down my throat.
If their interface and software bundle is so great, why doesn't Samsung let users choose to install their software via the market or some other option?
--my two cents.
I've used LauncherPro for about two years, on different devices, and it was always my go-to launcher, because it was fast, functional, and looked great. But ever since I bought my GNote it's been one of the worst launchers. It stuttered even when doing simple homescreen swipes.
After trying out most LauncherPro settings I tried...
Rooting and overclocking - zilch
Switching ROMs (Rocket -> Cassies) - Nada
Overclocking those - nope
Installed the latest kernels (Abyss 3.3&3.4 -> FM 1.5 & 2.0 -> Speedmod) - no chance
That's when I returned to LauncherPro settings and changed the one thing that used to make LauncherPro the smoothest on my last two phones.
Preferences -> Advanced -> Memory Usage Settings -> Homescreen Cache Type -> Compressed or Light
I've tried all three settings on my old phones and LauncherPro functioned best with "normal" but the GNote is just different I guess. I hope this helps.
P.S. make sure to keep: General Settings -> "Keep in memory" checked
I had problems with a lot of 3rd party launchers, but after i adjusted the DPI to 240 (stock 800x480 DPI) i do not have this problem anymore.
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My experience with these launchers are;
Launcher Pro - Smooth with Home screen scrolling but lags / stutters on app drawer scrolling.
Go Launcher - Lags/ stutters on Home screen scrolling but smooth on app scrolling. Disabling High Quality Drawing minimizes the lag on Home Home Screen scrolling.
Twouchwiz - lag-free but lacks the features and flexibility of Launcherpro and Go Launcher.
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LordManhattan said:
I had problems with a lot of 3rd party launchers, but after i adjusted the DPI to 240 (stock 800x480 DPI) i do not have this problem anymore.
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But doesn't that lower the quality of the displayed images?
pinoypower said:
My experience with these launchers are;
Launcher Pro - Smooth with Home screen scrolling but lags / stutters on app drawer scrolling.
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My experience is the exact opposite of this. I guess that goes to show just how different each phone can be.
Do you guys think the lag will be gone once we get ICS? Or does the launcher app have to be coded to use hardware acceleration?
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Do you guys think the lag will be gone once we get ICS? Or does the launcher app have to be coded to use hardware acceleration?
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It should be gone with ICS seeing how well nexus runs on ICS
Also don't expect much out of Launcher Pro. It hasn't been updated in forever.
If you have 2D acceleration checked on CM9 ICS ...there is no lag whatsoever. Tested ADW.
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If you have 2D acceleration checked on CM9 ICS ...there is no lag whatsoever. Tested ADW.
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That sounds promising, so maybe in the end ICS will solve all of our lagginess issues. BTW slightly off topic, but has there been any progress on getting the camera app to work? That is the one major thing I cannot live without for a daily driver ROM.
have you guys tried disabling "elastic scrolling" on launcherpro? I did mine, what a huge improvement on smoothness! It's comparable now to touchwiz
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k1ng617 said:
I've used LauncherPro for about two years, on different devices, and it was always my go-to launcher, because it was fast, functional, and looked great. But ever since I bought my GNote it's been one of the worst launchers. It stuttered even when doing simple homescreen swipes.
After trying out most LauncherPro settings I tried...
Rooting and overclocking - zilch
Switching ROMs (Rocket -> Cassies) - Nada
Overclocking those - nope
Installed the latest kernels (Abyss 3.3&3.4 -> FM 1.5 & 2.0 -> Speedmod) - no chance
That's when I returned to LauncherPro settings and changed the one thing that used to make LauncherPro the smoothest on my last two phones.
Preferences -> Advanced -> Memory Usage Settings -> Homescreen Cache Type -> Compressed or Light
I've tried all three settings on my old phones and LauncherPro functioned best with "normal" but the GNote is just different I guess. I hope this helps.
P.S. make sure to keep: General Settings -> "Keep in memory" checked
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I followed the above steps on my launcher pro and there is a very noticable improvement. Thank you!!
spfraggle said:
I followed the above steps on my launcher pro and there is a very noticable improvement. Thank you!!
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Your welcome! I'm glad I could give back, no matter how small, to this great community.
Strange, I never really had an issue with homescreen swiping with LP, but only with the app drawer opening/closing effect.
This change didn't do anything for that, unfortunately.
And I don't understand why some of you say Touchwiz is smooth. I found it so laggy when I got it! (KK1 kernel) So first thing I did was to get rid of it, and found LP so much smoother (except for app drawer opening).
pinoypower said:
Go Launcher - Lags/ stutters on Home screen scrolling but smooth on app scrolling. Disabling High Quality Drawing minimizes the lag on Home Home Screen scrolling.
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Absolutely correct! After jamming with the settings I was nearly going crazy about the laggy scrolling of my home screen... disabling the high quality drawing solves the problem.
To be honest: I can't see any appreciable advantage after activating this kind of "powerguzzler"... just skip it, folks!
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BrainSex said:
Absolutely correct! After jamming with the settings I was nearly going crazy about the laggy scrolling of my home screen... disabling the high quality drawing solves the problem.
To be honest: I can't see any appreciable advantage after activating this kind of "powerguzzler"... just skip it, folks!
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Agreed. I can't see any discernible difference with "high quality" on either.