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Replying SMS lag.. (Slow loading of text messages)

Hi all,
I've just got my HD2 this morning. I'm having a problem when trying to create an SMS by replying from the text messages tab.
This particular contact has around 500 messages and pressing 'reply' takes more than 20 seconds before even the onscreen keyboard to load for me to type the reply. I've tried other contacts with less messages, whilst it is quick, there is still a noticeable lag to load all of the previous messages.
Is anyone else having this problem?

Yes. The contacts/text messaging app seems to suffer from a lot of slowdown. I also have the feeling it's linked to the number of messages for each contact.
Saving a contact after editing can be slow as well.

I did a bit of a search...looks like this is a problem with the HTC messaging app in Manila 2.5 ..... sigh........ such a fundamental problem!

Too many people complain about SMS issues. SMS functionality should be one of the very first tests you do to a modern mobile device during Q.A.
At least its still good to know that I'll be able to speak with it.

Same here. Too slow..

Here the same problem. Can somebody make a fix for it please?

Delete all the SMS history with the contact who is taking long for the keyboard to load up.
The reason for this slowdown is that it is loading all your SMS messages with that contact, both sent and received. Hence it takes ages to load up.
1. Go to the SMS screen for your slow-loading contact, wait for it to load
2. Press 'Menu'
3. Press 'Delete Messages'
4. Press 'Menu'
5. Press 'Select All'
6. Press 'Done'

Where is the snapdragon?
man I need to get this Phone,but this seems to be the first real let down ,I use lots of SMS and to me deleting is not an option.
Must be found a work around.

HTC definately rushed this ROM.
The calendar bug, the spelling mistake in the connections settings, apparently the speed is slower than the test ROMs, and now this.

Well the only thing that lags with Touch HD on wm6.5 with Manila 2.5 is the HTC SMS.. That what made be believe I should upgrade my device to HD2. Now that I see that the device is also lagging with a dozen of SMSs... Thanks but I will not buy it unless a solution is found. I have more than 2500 work SMS all business related and I CANT FIND A REASON TO DELETE IT.
DIDNT THEY TRY THE DEVICE BEFORE SELLING IT??
EVEN A NOKIA 3310 CAN STORE 500+ SMS !!

Yes a nokia can store that many text, but they arent in a chat type session, thats why it takes so long because it loads all of them in one hit.

loomx said:
Yes a nokia can store that many text, but they arent in a chat type session, thats why it takes so long because it loads all of them in one hit.
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Even with Thread mode off and normal SMS display, it is very slow. Try restoring 200 SMS, it will takes 10 mins. Re-access your SMS menu, you will still lag as hell.
Cannot forgive them for making such a mistake.

was going to get it today
My non HTC device loaded with + 250 messages opens the SMS app.in 2 sec. Replying and bringing up the keyboard is almost from instantaneous to 1 sec,but I need to get a WM phone.
Just one question though:
Will this lag still happen if you Disable the HTC Sence UI and went with the WM 6.5 interface?

I've found a workaround for now..
Use the HTC Messaging app in traditional mode. From there, you could reply SMSes using the non-threaded mode. Once it loads, it's pretty quick to open again.
Still..the major lag is still there when you open a contact with many text messages....this is very dissapointing and could even be a dealbreaker for a few people.
Even my TD1 with Manila 2.1 doesn't have this problem.

hagba said:
Will this lag still happen if you Disable the HTC Sence UI and went with the WM 6.5 interface?
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NO! the problem it's just in senseUI

In the meantime, let your providers and htc know (mail). htc need to release a proper fix for this.

Manila 2.1 on my TP2 did`t have this problem at all.
To be honest .... 2.5 Manila messaging is crap!

I know this isn't an ideal solution, but it'll do for me (for now), and I'm sure some others will be happy enough with it as a temporary fix.
Use Microsoft MyPhone to get all your texts uploaded and then archive them using the web interface. You can then delete as many as you like off the phone and still be happy that you've got a backup online.
Not a solution, but a reasonable workround for now.
Edit: I can confirm that this works. I went to the MyPhone web interface and archived all my text messages. Then I synched from my mobile and it deleted all the local texts that I had archived (in this case, all of them). I can now edit and select contacts with only a slight lag. It's still a crap amount of lag for such a fast phone, but it's a lot better.

They should do like on the iPhone: when you chat with a contact, you get the last 10-15 messages of the thread. If you want to read older messages you press a button on top of the thread that will then show all the others.

+1!! I do think too that it's the obvious solution!!!! Why the hello do HTC's SMS apps display the full thread of SMS's on their app, it's pretty much useless, and causes lags!!! The last 10 sms's like in Outlokk or on the iPhone is enough!
I don't know what the hell HTC's devs are thinking sometimes....

Pissed off with handcent

Ok this is the second time this has happened to me since a few updates now handcent messaging app seems to crash and force close alot.
And again after a good few times doing this it deleted all my messages!!! more then 9000
What is causing this fed up cause i cant seem find a decent app that just backs up sms messages that works and that is free cause pay programs will not work for me.

have you tried chomp? i prefer it to handcent. And also, why would you want 9000 sms on your phone...???

I txt alot of people and like having the messages there long story lol
I tried chomp ya but handcent seemed to be better might go bk to it any ideas on a proper backup program?

try smsbackup, it backs up all your sms to gmail!

Im using sms backup and restore at the moment seems to be ok SO FAR lol i dont use Gmail so ehh dont see the point lol

Rooted Phone - Now i get 2 messages at a time

Anyone else having issues
When i get a message if it from a mobile phone then i only get it once..
But if it from t-mobile telling me my weekly allowence, or from my work that send systems problem auto via SMS i get them twice...
well wierd. only happened since i rooted it...

are you using other than stock sms messenger.. like Handcent?
If so.. you need to go into the stock messenger
and turn of notification!
and I think off the auto retrieve messages too.

yer i use handcent
but what i am trying to say -
If i have just handcent running - i get 2 message the same
if i have both handcent and stock running, i get 4 messages the same....
if i just have stock then i get 2 messages.....
I just seem to get 2 messages at the same time...

Somebody else must had had this problem?

ive been getting the same for the last few weeks. Only seems to double up from companies sending me texts like bank,tmobile Etc...not too bothered as it does not cost me anything...im using handcent and modaco custom rom....

sheridan2000 said:
ive been getting the same for the last few weeks. Only seems to double up from companies sending me texts like bank,tmobile Etc...not too bothered as it does not cost me anything...im using handcent and modaco custom rom....
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Yup that is what is happening to me too.....
I am on t-mobile too. maybe it is them that is the problem..
i even decided to install offical rom which has now locked my phone so i think it is about time to move on to a different phone..

Same here but I am in Greece/Vodafone. All SMS received correctly, except alerts from bank accounts (from 3 different banks, so no specific bank's problem), which I receive twice. Pretty annoying. I use Modaco's ROM, waiting for Android 2.1...

Same here in Italy: I get twice the SMSs from Google Calendar notification service only.

+1. In Norway. And I am on VillainROM, so it doesn't have anything to do with ROMs either, obviously...

hi, Thailand got this problem too
i've got double sms from the operator and other system messages
even got this problem before my HERO was rooted :[

I:'m having the same problem and I think that it's a problem on the Handcent side. It only occurs when I get a text from someone using the email gateway for sms ([email protected]). It started for me after installing the latest update to Handcent. I'm also now getting Handcent notifications when I get a voicemail using Sprint VVM, this to started after the last update to Handcent, so I think that they have some work to do. I really love Handcent, but this is getting annoying, I've tried other SMS programs (ChompSMS), but they just don't do it for me. I guess the only to do no is wait to see if the developers fix the problems.

SMS messages overloading HD2

Hi there.
I've had problems with my HD2 since I got it shortly after release last year. I've upgraded it to the latest ROM 1.66 and I still *had* problems with extreme sluggishness and freezing. "Services.exe" was a program that often got problems. I also had the "sleep of death" syndrome.
After I updated it and did a hard-reset I used PIMbackup to backup my contacts, SMS messages, appointments and such. No programs were restored. It still had the same problems. So I tried different things, but with no luck, until I did a hard-reset and restored everything except for my SMS messages. There were about 1600 of them, which I personally think is not that many. Now it runs fine, no freezing nor sluggishness.
So my question is, is it normal for an expensive smart phone like this to get that slow and unstable just by having a little too many SMS messages?
Thanks in advance.
/Zhibbhi

Zhibbhi said:
Hi there.
I've had problems with my HD2 since I got it shortly after release last year. I've upgraded it to the latest ROM 1.66 and I still *had* problems with extreme sluggishness and freezing. "Services.exe" was a program that often got problems. I also had the "sleep of death" syndrome.
After I updated it and did a hard-reset I used PIMbackup to backup my contacts, SMS messages, appointments and such. No programs were restored. It still had the same problems. So I tried different things, but with no luck, until I did a hard-reset and restored everything except for my SMS messages. There were about 1600 of them, which I personally think is not that many. Now it runs fine, no freezing nor sluggishness.
So my question is, is it normal for an expensive smart phone like this to get that slow and unstable just by having a little too many SMS messages?
Thanks in advance.
/Zhibbhi
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i've just gone an deleted 5000 SMS's and i was not having any problems with slowness.
I just deleted them for a bit of house keeping, thats all.

i weekly take backup of sms's using pimbackup. if i dont clear the sms then it will b very difficult to text and open the application. it takes around 10-15 seconds to open a conversation thread with mor than 2000 sms's and around 8-10 seconds for 200-700 sms.
I weekly send around 4-5000 sms's and this fone have only one BAD point.. that is Messaging client.

mon_money said:
i weekly take backup of sms's using pimbackup. if i dont clear the sms then it will b very difficult to text and open the application. it takes around 10-15 seconds to open a conversation thread with mor than 2000 sms's and around 8-10 seconds for 200-700 sms.
I weekly send around 4-5000 sms's and this fone have only one BAD point.. that is Messaging client.
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is that using the HTC Messaging client? or WM SMS?

djchubbs said:
i've just gone an deleted 5000 SMS's and i was not having any problems with slowness.
I just deleted them for a bit of house keeping, thats all.
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So if you can have triple the amount of text messages than me, that must mean that there is something wrong with my phone, right?
If I send it to repair, they'll probably just hard-reset it, take a quick test on it, and sent it back saying they didn't find any problems on it. Isn't that right?

Zhibbhi said:
So if you can have triple the amount of text messages than me, that must mean that there is something wrong with my phone, right?
If I send it to repair, they'll probably just hard-reset it, take a quick test on it, and sent it back saying they didn't find any problems on it. Isn't that right?
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What messaging client are you using? HTC or WM?

I use the HTC messaging client.

Zhibbhi said:
I use the HTC messaging client.
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thats may be why, i dont, i found with HTC messaging client that with as little as 100 sms in my inbox the client would lag, so i reverted to WM messaging client and runs like a dream, on its not the best looking client but still, does the job as they say.

Ah, ok. Where can I find the WM client?
Thanks for your help!

im not 100% sure but i think there shuold be a way of dissabling HTC client and it will default to WM SMS, maybe someone else could shed some light on this

Nevermind, found it =)
A million thanks for your help djchubbs! =D

Zhibbhi said:
Nevermind, found it =)
A million thanks for your help djchubbs! =D
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no problem, like i said, its doesnt look great but performance wise you should notice the difference.

[Q] Droid X SMS Lag

I've been having lag recently withing the SMS app. I will open it up and it's slow/sluggish and it takes my contacts pictures a while to load.
I know there are SMS apps like Handcent and Chomp, but I'm not a big fan of them. They've deleted all my texts multiple times and the interface looks cheap to me.
I delete my SMS threads every week or so and I do not have a lot of MMS messages in these threads. Does anyone else have this problem? Or better yet, have a fix for it?
Thanks.

wad3g said:
I've been having lag recently withing the SMS app. I will open it up and it's slow/sluggish and it takes my contacts pictures a while to load.
I know there are SMS apps like Handcent and Chomp, but I'm not a big fan of them. They've deleted all my texts multiple times and the interface looks cheap to me.
I delete my SMS threads every week or so and I do not have a lot of MMS messages in these threads. Does anyone else have this problem? Or better yet, have a fix for it?
Thanks.
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I use handcent every day since the DX was released and it has never deleted any of my texts...and you can change the interface as well. And for what it's worth, haven't noticed any lag with it either. I just love the quick reply

Had a similar problem with my contact list...it was because I had removed atcmd.apk. Have you removed any bloatware?

Handcent > Stock messaging app
And if it deleted all your texts, you probably hit the delete button

I have removed bloatware so I'll need to check into that.
As for Handcent; it deleted all of my SMS messages twice. It originally did it to my friend, but I figured he was the one at fault. Shortly after that my texts got deleted. This never happened on the Droid X, only on the original Droid.
I just don't like the way the Handcent interface looks on my X, even though the stock SMS app is hideous in its own right.

i agree with you whole heartedly. i dont like chomp or handcent.. i know a lot of people do.. good for them. but i really want just the stock android 2.2 messaging.

I have the same problem. If I get a text notification and I select it from the pull down notification bar it takes forever to load. I've used hand cent and I got even more loading lag with that app so I uninstalled it. I'm wondering if its my conversation sizes or I'm running or of ram
Sent from my DROIDX using XDA App

How does DX handle deleted messages? I was just wondering bc I am used to Sense on WinMo and I would delete my messages - but then I noticed one day it stored all my deleted messages as well. Go figure.
Does DX work the same way? (haven't got mine yet) I mean could it be that you have hundreds of deleted texts hiding somewhere waiting to be emptied like on HTC Sense/WinMo?

I just wanted to let you guys know that I installed the MMS.apk package from the original Droid Cyanogen 5.0.8 build, and it works swimmingly. I used Titanium Backup to backup and remove the Motorola Text Messaging app and have seen no issues.
Also, if any of you have had a problem with receiving messages 2 or 3 at a time, (duplicates) this solved that problem for me.

hey where can i get my hands on that MMS.apk? please