The following is crossposted from the midNIGHT ROM threads.
I'm not sure if Rob posted anywhere here yet, but as per his Twitter feed, he's having to make some sacrifices as a parent and is selling his Epic and extras on eBay. Unfortunately, this also means that he will no longer be developing for right now.
On behalf of myself, all of ACS, and the userbase at large, I'd like to thank Rob (ptfdmedic) for everything he's contributed to the Epic community, and all of the time and effort he's put in, in his already busy schedule and hectic life. Our very best wishes are with he and his family.
I and ACS fully support Rob's mission to spread autism awareness. I would like to encourage everyone who has not yet added an awareness banner to your signature to do so now, whether Rob's version, or the version in my signature, by ZHkilla.
But don't just toss up a banner and call it a day - if Rob has taught us anything, it's that autism is a disease that we the public really must understand better. Read the Wikipedia article, read Rob's blog, and keep in mind the challenges that parents of autistic children, and autistic individuals themselves face. Understand that those on the spectrum are people first and foremost, and that while they may be a little different, they deserve all the respect that any decent human beings deserve.
Once again, thank you Rob, for your generous donation of time and effort to making our phones run better, making this community more harmonious, and raising autism awareness. I didn't mean to steal your thunder if you were planning on making an announcement here as well as Twitter... but I wanted to say a few words anyway.
+1000...Thank you!
Thank's Rob.
Rob, thank you for everything you have done here for all of us and for always doing it with class and a huge heart. All the best to you and your family.
I read your blog a while back on The Man with Bare Hands and it really touched me. I never got around to posting a banner but will do so when I get home tonight. Best wishes.
Man that really sucks. I don't post here often but I check in on xda every time I have a free minute. You guys are all great at developing but ptfmedic has always stood out to me not just because of his roms but because he always seems to be very helpful and very patient with the questions around here. Genuinely seems like a great guy. I have also followed his blog on many occasions and yes a lot of it is vey touching. If he has to go I'm sure he will be missed by many.
My question is (without knowing any details about his situation) Is there enough members in the Epic forums to make a one time say $5 or $10 donation to a save ptfmedics Epic fund. Seems like he goes through a lot on a daily basis and that phone could be his only outlet. I hope I am not out of line even suggesting this but I hate to see such a valued member of this community have to leave.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA Premium App
Thanks,donation sent,wish it could be more...
Sent from my MyFrankenstein EC05OCE using XDAP App...
This sucks . hate to see you go Rob.
You will be missed bro.
Whosdaman said:
This sucks . hate to see you go Rob.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1 on that one I have the Midnight Rom on my phone. I respect his decision. Is he broke or does he have to spend more time taking care of his family or both?
Thank YOU ROB!!! Will miss your work! Wish you and your family good luck! Stay strong!
Rob, dude. Thanks for everything! I have been running your ROM every since release. You are very talented bro and hope to see you in my next phone venture when things get better.
Wanted to add my thanks. Much respect Rob.
Sent from my Samsung-SPH-D700 using XDA Premium App
A sad day for XDA
Rob,
Thank you for everything you've done for my phone and things you have taught me about life while reading your blog. I wish you and your family all the best.
THANK YOU
Thanks, k0nane
I also started the same type of thread over at ppcgeeks as well.
If k0nane still needs a phone maybe everyone could donate to a "buy Rob's phone for him" fund and kill two birds with one stone.
The head Chef of ACS doesn't have an Epic?
heathmcabee said:
The head Chef of ACS doesn't have an Epic?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've been going through the roundabout process of getting a new one for quite some time now. I should have one within the next week. Up until about 4/5 I'd had one since launch.
jamice4u said:
+1 on that one I have the Midnight Rom on my phone. I respect his decision. Is he broke or does he have to spend more time taking care of his family or both?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Read his blog. It will give you a huge insight into his life and the daily battles he goes through. I've been lucky enough to be on his beta test team since version 2.6. In that time I got to know him as a person and not just as a member of the forums and rom chef, and for that I feel like I've been very lucky.
Thank you Rob.
Rob... your a really inspiring guy, you like too please everyone and use your free time to do this for us when you already do so much for your family... I never knew much about autism untill you opened my eyes and when I read your blog I see how much stress you go through and your about the nicest guy I've talked to... hope to see you around when you can get a new phone, thanks for all the work you've done for this community (this post probably doesn't have that great grammar, sorry)
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
Related
hi there,
thank you all for supporting me, the leave was planned, i am not developing anymore, i am leaving to focus on school, i deleted my twitter account, i won't be planning on going on the irc often.
i gave you guys a big head start on development.
i love the community no matter what trolls & hater will say..
let see what you guys can do without me..
if you guy want to donate, pm me.. remember donation are never required!
Well, good luck with school man. I hope everything work out for the best.
WHAT IF WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING?!?!?!11!1one
well, thank you for what you did so far, and if every now and then, you want to give us a small push, it would be welcomed. thank you, and good luck
Good luck to you sir
Sent from my heart
ericizzy1 said:
well, thank you for what you did so far, and if every now and then, you want to give us a small push, it would be welcomed. thank you, and good luck
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1 noobnl
Best of luck in your endeavours and Happy Holidays!
Hope you come around periodically, even if it's behind the scenes.
OMG...can we please move this thread to general and get back to breaking our phones???...jeez.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
Thanx for all you did on the moment and epic. You have a bright future ahead of you, be well.
sent from an Epic4g through the cosmos
I will miss your developments but not your arrogance... however, thank you for your work.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
I hope we can get TV-Out working without your assistance Thanks for all your work Shareef, I appreciate it all. Good luck with school man. Take care.
spyderfry said:
OMG...can we please move this thread to general and get back to breaking our phones???...jeez.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You've got all of 18 posts...unless you're a newbie, I'm sure you've benefited from his work in one way or another. Show some respect to a person that's literally helped HUNDREDS of people with his work. No one made you come to this thread nor did anyone make you put in your useless .02
sleepy8594 said:
I will miss your developments but not your arrogance... however, thank you for your work.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Back handed compliment? There is a big difference between arrogance and confidence. Clearly he knew his ****, period. There is no need to be rude.
good luck noobnl and take care
@ the haters lol
if you dont have anything good dont say it keep your whining and complaing to your self
noobnl was awesome when he was here
Good luck with whatever your next goals are!
Figured I'd chime in here...
I bought the Epic 4G solely because I was familiar with the work noobnl had done with the Samsung Moment and knew he was going to develop for the Epic as well. I felt that at least things would be accomplished with this phone because of him.
I know his work to be quite competent and his releases tend to be the most stable compared to other developers. I know he will be missed in the community, and will be welcomed back anytime.
Thanks for the contributions, noobnl!
Thanks for all of your fine contributions to this community noobnl, you will be sorely missed by many here not just for your work but steadfast professionalism in the face of haters, noobs, trolls, and flashwhores tripping out for a fix. You have set a fine example for others to follow in terms of sharing first without asking for things in return. I wish you the very best and happiness in your life.
Take Care!
Tamvegas said:
+1 noobnl
Best of luck in your endeavours and Happy Holidays!
Hope you come around periodically, even if it's behind the scenes.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+100 to this.
School comes top priority these days.. I'm fairly new to this community but from things I've read and seen you've got talent my friend. Use it well
noobnl said:
hi there,
thank you all for supporting me, the leave was planned, i am not developing anymore, i am leaving to focus on school, i deleted my twitter account, i won't be planning on going on the irc often.
i gave you guys a big head start on development.
i love the community no matter what trolls & hater will say..
let see what you guys can do without me..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Noobnl, you are one of the best. It really brings tears to my eyes that your leaving. I hope everything is well and we see you again. Wish we could change your mind.
Now... for a moment of silence, for we have lost a great one.
P.S. Are you sure you really wanna go to school now? It so over rated. Lol. Don't classes start in Jan? ; )
Sent using Tapatalk
Least we still got darchevo...hahah
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
Thank you noobnl for your great work!
Welcome, thank everyone for taking the time to read this. I have been a busy body in the shadows trying to do something for a member of our Community. Let me start from the beginning. I'm sure everyone here is familiar with user/developer PTFDMedic. He created the Midnight roms, among other things. He's a well respected member of the community, a friend to me, and one of the strongest persons I have ever met in my life. He is also very open and honest about his personal experiences in life be it the bad, the good, and the personal. He blogs @ a site I suggest everyone read over once. www.lostandtired.com. He works his butt off taking care of his family, his wife and three autistic boys (which troubles me to even type it like that because he takes care of his THREE BOYS, the fact that they have autism does NOT define them).
Now the point of this, this all started the same day I wrote my rant about not getting my Nexus, on the way home I was thinking about reading that he sold his Epic to pay for car repairs on his van to keep bringing his children to speech therapy. I felt kinda bad that I have an Epic, brand new, and now I'm about to be holding onto the Nexus S. I'm by no means rich I just chose to pass on other things and save to get the phones I want. But still all in all at the end of the day I have two different phones, both top of the line, and here is Rob doing all the things necessary to raise his family and (if you don't develop for the phone/theme anything) it's hard to understand but when you are working on the code and have to pay close attention to what you are doing, you kind of loose sight of all the things that were nagging at your on the back of your mind. I serious mistake in the code and you can potential brick your device. So even though developing can create it's own headaches, and oh yes it can, it also helps you escape all the other things on your mind. That being said, I felt really bad that Rob was loosing his outlet, both to develop and his connection with you guys here on the forums.
Soon as I got home I set up an account and stuck in a mere $50 and got determined to translate that $50 into a new phone. I contacted my friends @ ACS and told them what was up. Withing no time we had $125.00 in there. Next the Bonsai team (can't thank you guys enough) joined in and we got $250.00 in the account. This ofcourse is the going rate on an Epic on ebay. While I was doing all of this (completely behind the scenes it was going to be a total suprise when I purchased the phone from Ebay, checked it to make sure it worked out all right, then mailed it to Rob who was clueless all along) I start noticing a few posts where he says that he really wants the Nexus S, he would love to develop on a device that doesn't have TW.
We finally got the cash together to buy the Epic and we all had us another conversation, why stop here. Why not push the envelope and let this man have his dream, and get a Nexus S. That would put us from 100% to 50% of the phones cost and two different development teams have put in a large amount so why not ask the users. They can and deserve to be a part of this anyway. Perfect, but it ruined one thing. Rob would def find out about this, going public. So I've notified Rob about the current. $250, the whole ordeal that we have been creating, everything. And then asked the mods permission for this post, which was granted first thing this morning. Now we are here and you're caught up with me. Have a heart, and give back to a man who has given to you!
By all means only donate if it is within your means!!! Rob was totally against us spending our money on him so Rob, if your reading this, your not allowed to post in protest!!!
All previous donations have gone to my account, that money is forwarded, and now the donate button here goes directly to Rob! He'll have to keep me posted on progress from here on.
Keep the good work Rob...
I hope to contribute if I can but this is definitely for a good cause! Your doing a good thing dreams as well as bonsai and ACS!
latinmaxima said:
I hope to contribute if I can but this is definitely for a good cause! Your doing a good thing dreams as well as bonsai and ACS!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you for that. And thanks for the support, he most definitely deserves it.
I would but I don't have a credit card or paypal im still in Highschool
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
deano0714 said:
I would but I don't have a credit card or paypal im still in Highschool
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Its cool bro you still showing your support!
$10 sent... I moved on from the Epic to Nexus S4G but Midnight ROM made my Epic experience a lot more enjoyable and the developer is class.
styckx said:
$10 sent... I moved on from the Epic to Nexus S4G but Midnight ROM made my Epic experience a lot more enjoyable and the developer is class.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you robs on his way to a nexus!
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk
i find this thread absolutely inexcusable, wheres the fighting and the name calling? guess ill be the first one to start
DREAMS! you are an excellent themer and a good guy! so take that!
ptfmedic! I'm sorry but i cant sit idley by and watch you as you get the hottest sexiest phone and make a damn good rom on it. so to defeat your plans i am gunna donate more money! then you wont know what to do with it mwhahahahahaha >.>
anyways no doubt about it pftmedic has done a lot for this community and i hold no reserves about donating to his get "rich quick fund" P) see you on the other side brotha (the awesome cool nexus side )
I am so glad to see this thread, let's get this man a phone!!
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
WOW dreams you are truly a good person and karma will pay you back ten fold for your good deeds
shabbypenguin said:
i find this thread absolutely inexcusable, wheres the fighting and the name calling? guess ill be the first one to start
DREAMS! you are an excellent themer and a good guy! so take that!
ptfmedic! I'm sorry but i cant sit idley by and watch you as you get the hottest sexiest phone and make a damn good rom on it. so to defeat your plans i am gunna donate more money! then you wont know what to do with it mwhahahahahaha >.>
anyways no doubt about it pftmedic has done a lot for this community and i hold no reserves about donating to his get "rich quick fund" P) see you on the other side brotha (the awesome cool nexus side )
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OMG shabby, you are a fool! Glad to have you on the other side as well, Don't worry, I'm still working on the Epic, any work I do for it will transfer over pretty well. Plus I believe Rob might me continuing on the Epic too, but you'll have to hear that from him not me!
evolol said:
WOW dreams you are truly a good person and karma will pay you back ten fold for your good deeds
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you. TBH, this makes me feel better than anything else I have done for the community hands down.
Thnx for info
Donated $40. Hope that helps. Rob is a good person.
BTW, make sure to click the "update total" button under the donation amount BEFORE you fill everything else in.
good luck, rob. Midnight Roms were my rom of choice on the Epic. Just swapped into my Nexus S today and I will spread the word via twitter rt's !
Though i do not own a Nexus S nor an EPIC. (G2 user) But i definitely would love to return something to the developers. No matter who it is. Two of my friends have the Nexus S and i might bag one next month. Hell tomorrow morning first thing...3 Donations coming your way!
To the selfless developers here at XDA - Kudos to you, you guys are the real deal!
I am out of work, have a car payment, 3 kids and bills up the a**, but I gave $1. Every little bit will help. And hell I don't even have an epic or nexus.
3 kids and has time to play with phones?!
bloodhawk said:
Though i do not own a Nexus S nor an EPIC. (G2 user) But i definitely would love to return something to the developers. No matter who it is. Two of my friends have the Nexus S and i might bag one next month. Hell tomorrow morning first thing...3 Donations coming your way!
To the selfless developers here at XDA - Kudos to you, you guys are the real deal!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How do you do that? Paypal doesn't allow me to add money via SBI! And I don't really have credit cards! Please, I wanna contribute. And completely agree with you... doesn't matter who he is. He deserves for whatever he's done! Otherwise, I'm still WinMo guy. Gene and Leo!
thanks for all your hard effin' work. We appreciate everything you have done that we could not and look forward to what's in store.
next......
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA Premium App
Always loved Som's ROMs, too bad team whiskey have no more love for vibrants Som rocks team whiskey rocks!!
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
bosslabs said:
Always loved Som's ROMs, too bad team whiskey have no more love for vibrants Som rocks team whiskey rocks!!
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's not true .. TW has NextGen and NextGen 2 .. get it from ROM Manager.
There are people from Team Whiskey who are very cool and helpful.
Not sure why sombionix is singled out here. That guy is a ghost. If you like the new ROMs, you should change the title.
We should all stand in a circle and sing "Kumbaya" but instead change the lyric's to:
"Kumbaya again, Sombionix, Kumbaya........"
Wikipedia Definition - "Kumbayah" (Gullah, "Come By Here" — "Kum ba yah")
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumbaya
So in essence we would be saying "Come by here again, Sombionix"lol
on the Team Whiskey board Sombionix wrote on May 17th "I am making a new rom this week, however, no ETA set. ". So there is still some love for the Vibrant, it's just in the oven still.
Instead of hanging on one persons nuts why don't you thank the whole team whiskey. You might want to take into consideration that other team whiskey members might read this. I am not saying that his work isn't good but you shouldn't single out one person on a whole team when all of them have a hand in developing the roms.
mugenfiji0327 said:
Instead of hanging on one persons nuts why don't you thank the whole team whiskey. You might want to take into consideration that other team whiskey members might read this. I am not saying that his work isn't good but you shouldn't single out one person on a whole team when all of them have a hand in developing the roms.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Pwneddddddd
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
mugenfiji0327 said:
Instead of hanging on one persons nuts why don't you thank the whole team whiskey. You might want to take into consideration that other team whiskey members might read this. I am not saying that his work isn't good but you shouldn't single out one person on a whole team when all of them have a hand in developing the roms.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorta was I was getting at... just tried to be nicer about it, ha.
Here's an idea. Showing that your thankful is nice but it's done everyday. Mostly as a means of being polite but you can really thank a person or a team of developers by donating. Many of us developers have very busy lives. Then we come home from our jobs just to get private messages and read stuff like "I'm having problems" and "When is the next update?" etc, etc. Obviously they are going to concentrate on what's more important to them. Family, friends, work, religion, other hobbies, etc. Reading a bunch of thank you's are nice don't get me wrong... but it's the e-mail from Paypal that really makes us smile. Now am I saying that it's why we (developers) do what we do? Absolutely not! It's a hobby for us really. And it's a hobby that we decide to share (not sell) with the community. But it stops being a hobby when we start working just to please everybody else. Many of us give it up after a while because we get tired of all of the endless requests, complaints, problems, etc and let's face it... when you have 100 thank you's and 1 complaint... you tend to concentrate more on that complaint because you want to please everybody which obviously cannot be done.
Guys. I [me. My opinion. Not yours. Not hating. MY opinion] did not like frost. I am running nextgen but it is just missing that indescribable something. That something is usually in som's roms.
So I thanked him on the internet and got **** on for doing it.
Congrats in your life, thanks TW for all the work and i'm looking forward to see what he's cooking up next.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA Premium App
http://youtu.be/08S4poMGvwA
Yo Lou,
I'm really happy for you and Imma let you finish,
but Trigger is one of the best ROMs of all time!
Okay I understand where the op is going with this but at the same time, any rom that sombionix creates, he does not do so on his own. You have to understand though op, he has a TEAM of people that are helping him. That's why you got flamed almost instantly, because you can't just thank one person on a WHOLE TEAM for a piece of work that came from ALL OF THEM. Even if he was the biggest contribution of that one rom, he still had a TEAM of people helping him. Get it now ? Also hence the name TEAM WHISKEY, he doesn't have that in his signature for no reason.
Zylograth said:
Yo Lou,
I'm really happy for you and Imma let you finish,
but Trigger is one of the best ROMs of all time!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This isn't a thread to compare which rom is the best, you shouldn't come into a thread like this with an attitude like that. You are contributing nothing by posting this.
mugenfiji0327 said:
This isn't a thread to compare which rom is the best, you shouldn't come into a thread like this with an attitude like that. You are contributing nothing by posting this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's the internet and I'll troll if I want to.
I donate whenever possible (although I admit its not much or as often as I would like) and suggest everyone else do as well. I sometimes try to donate to one person specifically just to find that all their donation links are for the team they dev for and they don't have a personal one. I kinda like that cuz it supports the whole dev team but at the same time sometimes I do wanna give thanks to a specific person. My first ROM I ever flashed was Nero and I will never forget that.
I really hope nobody takes offense to this thread as I believe it was created with no harm in mind. I do appreciate all the hard werk our Devs, themers, hackers, and hobbiest's do for us here at XDA for our beloved Samsung Vibrant. Good luck!
Zylograth said:
It's the internet and I'll troll if I want to.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I along with a lot of the community I'm guessing, hope you get banned and not temp banned, perm banned. That's enough, I will not argue or indulge your stupidity any longer.
Zylograth said:
It's the internet and I'll troll if I want to.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsYJyVEUaC4
Dude lost his johnny! and I get a thanx! LOL Friggin titz!
mugenfiji0327 said:
I along with a lot of the community I'm guessing, hope you get banned and not temp banned, perm banned. That's enough, I will not argue or indulge your stupidity no longer.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Double negative.
To all those wondering what Kholk has been up too lately, this is what I came back to find in the IRC chat after going AFK..
* kholk ([email protected] IP/kholk) has joined #moto-atrix
* ChanServ gives voice to kholk
<kholk> re.
<AstainHellbring> hi
<kholk> hi AstainHellbring
<kholk> I'm here only to say a fast thing
<kholk> about those morons that are constantly attacking me
<kholk> well, I hope in this channel there's still a logbot
<kholk> but if there isn't, someone'll make them to see what I'm writing
<kholk> anyway
<kholk> dedicated to the guys that are constantly attacking me:
<kholk> 1. You're only morons, if only you'd know 1/800 of the things that I've done, you'd be the king of the world now.
<kholk> 2. If that's a "Thank you for working on the Atrix for months, night and day", you should say it in a different way. Really.
<kholk> 3. Really, I don't know how to explain what I want to say to you, but.. only bad words.
<kholk> 4. Enjoy without me.
<kholk> Goodbye!
* kholk ([email protected] IP/kholk) has left #moto-atrix
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
DarkRyoushii said:
To all those wondering what Kholk has been up too lately, this is what I came back to find in the IRC chat after going AFK..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
He has also tweeted he is working on other phones still naming the project eternity. I really never seen anything from him but words, no results. Im not sad.
Great! Now we have lost a great dev because of a few assholes! Yes, we do still have great devs and with those devs, we will be ok. However, kholk has put a lot of work into the atrix and this is how we thank him? By running him away. He would have been a great contributor to the atrix! Just look at some other phones he has made ROMs and kernels for! He truly is a great dev and now he won't even be helping us! And I hope kholk sees this and comes back. These devs need to know that we appreciate then or they leave, like this! Everyone who appreciates the things he has done so far, comment here, show him we appreciate it and maybe, just maybe hell come back.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
SMH to all those who just have negative comments about everything... Did you pay a membership fee to join XDA?.... Didn't think so, therefore there should be less complaining and moaning and more "Keep your mouth shut". This is not directed at just those who bad mouth Kholk but at those who bad mouth everything that happens on this site.
If you want something done and it is not happening in a manner in which you would "LIKE" it done, then become a developer you lazy moochers. Other then that you should have complete patience as the developers here owe no one person anything. If you donated and you feel it was a waste, then why did you donate? better off with out the lot of you IMO who are always saying, "whats the status on the bootloader?", "When is CM7 being ported?", Why did I donate to see zero results?".. I don't know, why did you donate? hahah
lyon21 said:
Great! Now we have lost a great dev because of a few assholes! Yes, we do still have great devs and with those devs, we will be ok. However, kholk has put a lot of work into the atrix and this is how we thank him? By running him away. He would have been a great contributor to the atrix! Just look at some other phones he has made ROMs and kernels for! He truly is a great dev and now he won't even be helping us! And I hope kholk sees this and comes back. These devs need to know that we appreciate then or they leave, like this! Everyone who appreciates the things he has done so far, comment here, show him we appreciate it and maybe, just maybe hell come back.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes I have seen his other ROMS, but that does not help us here. I guess that tenfar, Sograth, eval_, unknown_, Edgan, The2dCour and many others have not done anything as amazing as kholk's work for the Atrix. O PLEASE COME BACK.
ClearFire said:
SMH to all those who just have negative comments about everything... Did you pay a membership fee to join XDA?.... Didn't think so, therefore there should be less complaining and moaning and more "Keep your mouth shut". This is not directed at just those who bad mouth Kholk but at those who bad mouth everything that happens on this site.
If you want something done and it is not happening in a manner in which you would "LIKE" it done, then become a developer you lazy moochers. Other then that you should have complete patience as the developers here owe no one person anything. If you donated and you feel it was a waste, then why did you donate? better off with out the lot of you IMO who are always saying, "whats the status on the bootloader?", "When is CM7 being ported?", Why did I donate to see zero results?".. I don't know, why did you donate? hahah
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Stated like a pro! Your exactly correct! Kholk is only going to be the first to go if people don't straighten up! The atrix has taken a long time to be unlocked. A lot of devs are already working on phones that came unlocked that are already out! Don't push the great devs that we have now away! Also, I do believe this belongs in the dev section, the general section and every other atrix section! People need to express their gratitude and the devs need to see that they are greatly appreciated!
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
wow that really is too bad...
It's a shame a dev can be attacked like that by so many...its even more of a shame that a dev ( as hard as it can be ) can take all of those attacks to heart so much that they actually abandon their projects.
Sometimes dev forums can be like high school yes, however we are (mostly) adults here and insults and attacks should only be taken with a grain of salt... although some members can be huge troll's there does need to be some level of thick skinned'ness as an adult and some of us DO need to learn to let the majority of insults and attacks roll off of your back.
This is the real world folks and there are thousands of members in the Atrix community alone that don't understand how to code and program. As a result there will be harsh words spoken and as immature as they are you need to learn to let go.
There truly are more members here that aren't trolling and are extremely great-full for the work that devs put in since us (real) adults know that we would never be able to understand what and how you do things.
It's disappointing that he is no longer involved because of being perhaps a little sensitive to criticism and i hope kholk reads this so that he may come back with the understanding that there are just deuchbags in this world and there is nothing we can do about it and i think this goes for all dev's on any phone in any forum.
Kholk thank you for very much for your hard work that you put in. Know that it has not gone un-appreciated. There are just more people that appreciate it than don't.
On that note i end this rant in the hopes that more dev's don't jump ship due simply to the fact that there are people in this world that either simply don't have nice things to say, don't understand how difficult coding is and don't appreciate the hard work...
If you aren't good with criticism then perhaps you don't belong in a community where sharing your work is expected.
cheers
Well, as far as I can tell, kholk talked a lot about what he was working on but I don't know what he has accomplished. I'm not saying he accomplished nothing, I just have no idea what he actually did. From the results produced by the other devs for this phone, I am happy with the results and can suffer a tantrum.
sifon187 said:
Yes I have seen his other ROMS, but that does not help us here. I guess that tenfar, Sograth, eval_, unknown_, Edgan, The2dCour and many others have not done anything as amazing as kholk's work for the Atrix. O PLEASE COME BACK.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I never said that! I have told every one of them that I appreciate what they have done! Everything each of them has done is great! I am saying that we need every dev we can get! I am not saying that kholk is any better than any of those guys. I am saying that we could have benefited from his developments. I, for one, don't want to see any of our devs go. EVERY ONE of then are great to have and do amazing things with such a complex device!
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
lyon21 said:
I never said that! I have told every one of them that I appreciate what they have done! Everything each of them has done is great! I am saying that we need every dev we can get! I am not saying that kholk is any better than any of those guys. I am saying that we could have benefited from his developments. I, for one, don't want to see any of our devs go. EVERY ONE of then are great to have and do amazing things with such a complex device!
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My point being is this. Alot of our community has put Kholk on this high pedestal. He gave us tidbits of information on things he was working on, but no results. I know its free (blah blah blah), but when you offer anything up, you should except criticism.
Everyone please take note. The majority of the criticism directed towards kholk was not from the screaming masses and idiots on xda, but from very well respected people in this community. If you have been on IRC, you know who I am talking about. I don't know if that changes anything in your eyes, but this is not an example of trolls driving a dev out.
Kholks problem was that he simply promised too much and didn't deliver. He asked for money as though his projects were mostly or partially complete, but never actually published them. I don't doubt that he is intelligent, he simply overreached himself on the ATRIX, and the community after a very long time, did backlash against him.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
Very sad indeed :-(
Yeah, I have no idea who this guy is... nuff' said?
I've been happy with the devs producing results in this forum. I tip my hat to you.
EDIT: I just did a little research and found his contributions. He was providing valuable information and I retract my earlier statement. We all hope you return Kholk.
He folded based on the words of morons.
Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk
Well, that's a bit disheartening.
We'll miss you Kholk.
One more reason for me to grab the Nexus "Prime" when it drops in the Fall. Don't get me wrong I love my Atrix (my first Android phone) & I like helping people on this forum and contributing where u can. But if the Nexus goes AT&T, then I go too... On topic now, I am sorry to see any dev leave b/c of petty remarks. Kholk, you will be missed.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA Premium App
You wanna know what kholk was doing for the atrix community, ill show you!
(if you install any of this and break your phone please dont go bothering the devs that are ACTUALLY WORKING hard to get stuff for your atrix)
kholks OC kernels, and kexec kernels based on the oldest 1.2.6 source available.
http://www.4shared.com/file/KgYP7x60/kholkskernels.html?
kholks UART work! clearly unfinish, as well as clearly unwilling to help another dev to finish it, with his amazing, IM NOT AT HOME! excuse, everyone is so use to listening
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081743
kholks CM7 and Gentto webtop
oh yeah, he claimed to have it but never release it.
theres people daily, working there ass off, who never ask for donation, never claim nothing they coudnt do, all day everyday working their ass off, kholk is not needed! so stop whining kholk is gone, and wheep the money he stole from y'all. he may have done awesome on other phones, but here in the atrix comunity, he was a thief.
kholks < desingears, Edgan, eval-, The2dCour, Sogarth, fenrir, etc etc
BTW THIS POST CLEARLY BELONGS TO GENERAL!
I don't like the ingrates and morons, but the internet is the thunderdome. If you can't take the heat then leave. He can be melodramatic all he wants.
It's a shame that he was a great dev though. Maybe he'll man up in the future but I'm not going to lick his balls because he's having a big fuss fuss. We can all remember this in the future too. Be respectful to the devs rather than chasing them away. I don't even post in this section anymore unless I have a burning question. Everyone goes completely off topic and flames each other constantly.
I'm sick of seeing threads like this in the developer section. By all means this is a general section thread.
Yes, sad to see him go.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA Premium App
Seriously, most of the attacks were fun **** talking between boredom on irc. Be a man kholk not a mouse. Never would of thought he was such a fragile little biznitch. Im besides myself. Kholk is a true hustler.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA Premium App
I want to just take a second and say thanks for ALL the support I have received from most of you since I started out here. I realize that Autism and Android were an unlikely pair but I thought it worked well.
Lately there has been an increasing level intolerance for what I was trying to do here. I know it's a vocal minority but they have become louder and louder. I have become quite disheartened as of late with the direction this forum has taken and I'm going to step back for a while. My ultimate goal is to further the spread of Autism Awareness and hopefully get Android4Autism launched by the end of the summer or early fall and so I'm going to redirect my efforts there.
I honestly had the best of intentions with everything I was doing here but it has apparently run it's course. Aside from asking you to "think about donating your old devices for the Android4Autism project (and I specifically said not until after everything was set up and legit so that everyone was protected) and votes, I never asked for anything. Despite the claims that have been made to the contrary about my intentions.
I want to thank everyone for voting for my blog but as you may notice the thread has been moved after being here for over 2 1/2 months. I realize that it was not "on topic" but it was a positive thread. I thought it was amazing how everyone unified and worked together for a common goal. I suspect that the vocal minority contributed to this and that saddens me. I'm not angry this happened, it's just that fact that some people would take it upon themselves to get this removed from our forums after all this time, instead of just not reading it.
I'm not looking for anything out of this. After all you have given to me, I felt I owed you an explanation for my decision. That's the very least I can do. I'll never be able to repay all the kindness and support you have shone to both me and my family. You have all made a difference in our lives. You have helped to spread awareness and for that I will forever be grateful.
Please don't turn this into a flame war either. I'll close the thread myself. I just want everyone to understand how grateful I am for everything and that my stepping back is my choice. My methods are becoming the target for some people and I won't change the way I'm doing things because I believe in what I'm doing. So the best thing is to just walk away. At least for now.
You all know where to find me and I'm happy to help. Please feel free to contact me through my blog or Google+ if you need anything and I will do whatever I can to help you.
Thanks again for everything. I'm very proud of what we were able to accomplish. Please help to keep this community moving forward.
Rob
Keep up the great work , Sir !
Forget about those that complain about everything, what you do is great! Besst of luck to you!
Sent from my SPH-D700
WTG blank HEADS!!!!! another bomb dev/human gone... this is why most ppl stayed at ppcgeeks for so long... tooo much bs and neg energy...
ill miss your work ptfdmedic.. best of luck for you and your growing family!!
Thanks Rob for all that you do. And I hope you don't let this get you down too much. I remember when I first came to this forum and I thought what is this autism stuff all about here but as I took the time to read and learn I appreciated what you were doing and felt it was a great cause. If the bs here isn't worth your time I can hardly blame you. You've been far more generous with it than most would be. I as I am sure most people wish you nothing but the best!
-Jason
Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk
im sorry to see u go rob will miss you and i hope u and emmett(sp?) and family (sp?)
do well.
Thanks for all your hard work and i know you will be missed i hit thanks for you, goal is to break that thank meter, i really want to see one full
Farewell and best wishes
- David
ptfdmedic said:
I realize that it was not "on topic" but it was a positive thread.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not trying to be a **** but this sentence pretty much sums it up.
Thank you for what you have done.
As much as I would like to point fingers at those responsible I will refrain from it because you asked me not to.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk
You will be missed. I haven't been on as often as I used to because of all the BS here, but I still lurk and you will be missed!
machx0r said:
Not trying to be a **** but this sentence pretty much sums it up.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, yes you are.
How hard is it to not click on threads about things you're not interested in?
Rob,
Keep up the good work brother! Hopefully things will calm down here while you focus on your rom! I sent you a PM a while back... I may have some connections in the school (if you don’t already). Might help in pushing your rom on a local basis. Stay strong, God bless, and good luck in your endeavors!
From one medic to another... you're alright in my book!
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
machx0r said:
Not trying to be a **** but this sentence pretty much sums it up.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Rob asked us to not turn it into a flaming thread, but you sure don't make it easy. Funny how you have been on xda 2 months, but have only posted 21 times and you choose to post on this... why are you trying to start something?
JettMartinez said:
Yes, yes you are.
How hard is it to not click on threads about things you're not interested in?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1 no matter how kind and sincere you can be in a post there is always gonna be the one degenerate at the keyboard thinking "How can I dump on this guy."
As for the OP, keep up the good work bro
im not a homer by any means but when my Epic took a swim i was forced to boot my moment up and went back to SDX developers for roms..i REALLY wished the Epic would have caught on over there..just seems like a much better environment....this site has driven away quite a few developers..its a shame..thanks for everything you do rob.not just over here but with your Windows Mobile stuff over at PPCGeeks.if people cant tolerate your Autism Awareness, with all the good stuff you put out for the Epic, then this isnt the place for them..it shouldnt be the other way around...
JettMartinez said:
Yes, yes you are.
How hard is it to not click on threads about things you're not interested in?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just as hard as it is to follow the forum rules. Say for instance that I considered the elimination of homosexualaity a "positive cause". Should I be allowed to push that agenda here at the cost of the owners of the site simply because I think this is a positive agenda? (According to some users, yes...)
dnathan13 said:
Rob asked us to not turn it into a flaming thread, but you sure don't make it easy. Funny how you have been on xda 2 months, but have only posted 21 times and you choose to post on this... why are you trying to start something?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Regardless of what Rob has given to us (the community) why does he not have to follow the rules of the forum? Why is it appropriate for him to come and complain that his thread was moved to the correct forum and he is quitting because he disagrees with the opinion of those that pay for and/or manager this resource to be available to us?
@dnathan13: Regarding your comment on my membership length here... What Android software have you developed in your lengthy membership in these forums?
Medic,
I got another one for you, like old times: "The best way to fight negative acts is with perseverance, love and the truth"
Stay the course my friend and don't let nobody tell you lies about the truth you cary...
Sent from an Epic with 4G
Pete720 said:
+1 no matter how kind and sincere you can be in a post there is always gonna be the one degenerate at the keyboard thinking "How can I dump on this guy."
As for the OP, keep up the good work bro
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Fail to see how pointing out that we must play by the rules the owners of this site set is "dumping on someone". It's reality, if you don't like it create your own forum and set the rules...
EDIT: I have nothing against Rob's cause and believe the thread is in the correct forum now...
Rob, I've supported you ever since I heard about you and your cause. You are one of the few members here that has gained my respect. I thank you for *Everything* you've done here.
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
machx0r said:
Just as hard as it is to follow the forum rules. Say for instance that I considered the extermination of homosexuals a "positive cause". Should I be allowed to push that agenda here at the cost of the owners of the site simply because I think this is a positive agenda? (According to some users, yes...)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Really?
I don't believe any HUMAN being would have a problem with autism awareness.
Like comparing apples and oranges.
Smh
Thanks Rob. I've enjoyed reading and learning from you. I've been a member pretty much since the epic launched, lurked and just read alot; lately its hard not to respond to some of this.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
Keep that head up Rob we are all still behind you. You showed us a piece of yourself and your family here and became a friend to most of us. Keep in mind one thing, you are dealing with a lot of minors on heee and they cant grasp the idea they are ****ting on you with some of the comments about your intentions. They arent mature enough to see how it comes out. The mature adults will remain on your side.
Never feel you asked for anything or too much. Your community came together to give you what you deserved without you asking for it.
Take a rest man play with those kids, your headed in the right direction with the autism awareness, families will benefit from your sweat!
Sent from my AOSP+ Premium ROM