Folks,
I just discovered at slight cost, Titanium Backup doesn't do what you think it does. I did a full system backup, then decided to remove a couple of system apps to try to restore - proof of theory style.
TB DOES NOT backup the SYSTEM .apk files, only the data associated with them. User installed .apk's are fine.
I can't write it better than the article I found, check out this link:
http://androidforums.com/ally-all-things-root/193848-titanium-backup-will-not-back-up-your-system-apps.html
Be warned !!!
If you deleted any system apps, you can easily get them from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036249
I only back up user apps and data. Doing other stuff is (as you have seen here) open for issues.
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Excuse me if this has been covered before, but is there a way to backup the device in a way, that if i root it, and then flash some ROM to it, and i mess up or just want to go back to my previous state?
I read something about nandroid? But in order for me to do that, i need root. Correct? so, what if i want to "unroot" my device? and is nandroid suitable for the Desire?
What does nandroid actually do? Does it back up everything?
nandroid makes images of all of the disk, so it's a full backup, but it's having issues restoring those backups to the Desire at the moment. And yes, you'll need to at least get to the recovery menu to run nandroid for now.
The only other route of which I know is just backing up apps and data, and you can use Titanium Backup for that (or MyBackup, I think). Without root, when you restore the apps, you won't be able to tell the Market you have these things installed, though. Doing that still requires you to fully reflash and do some setup, though. I don't think there's a cut-and-dry backup and full restore method at the moment. If there is, I'd certainly be interested...
I am also in the hunt for a good backup application. Dont mind paying as long as work as it should. But i dont think there is any backup application that can backup applications (most of them maybe just supported some limited apps).
kuailan said:
I am also in the hunt for a good backup application. Dont mind paying as long as work as it should. But i dont think there is any backup application that can backup applications (most of them maybe just supported some limited apps).
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Titanium Backup will back up everything that's on your phone except for apps installed by the system (and those it'll try and backup if you're rooted). It's worked flawlessly for me.
The Professor said:
Titanium Backup will back up everything that's on your phone except for apps installed by the system (and those it'll try and backup if you're rooted). It's worked flawlessly for me.
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I am trying Titanium now at the moment....just wondering I have seen a lot of application backup options/lists?? but where is the options to backup SMS, contacts, etc?? I find the UI is a little complex.
So is the best way of doing it.. Backup.. Copy folder to pc...
Then when i wanna restore.. Install titanium. copy license and folder back?
kuailan said:
I am trying Titanium now at the moment....just wondering I have seen a lot of application backup options/lists?? but where is the options to backup SMS, contacts, etc?? I find the UI is a little complex.
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Titanium backup only does apps.
Personally I use MyBackup, it backs up settings, sms, calender, home screens, settings e.t.c. as well as apps and keeps market links intact.
Well worth the money.
Ive got both now lol! have to wait till i install a new rom.. ill try mybackup first then
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Titanium backup only does apps.
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Oh, RLY?
Official Titanium Backup site says otherwise.
http://www.matrixrewriter.com/android/
Features of the Free version:
No time limit
Very fast app listing (~1 second for 300 apps)
Sort apps by name / last backup / backup frequency
Filter apps by name / type / status / Apps Organizer labels (also affects Batch operations)
Backup/restore regular apps + their settings
Backup/restore protected apps + their settings
Backup/restore system settings (incl. Wi-Fi AP list)
Restores the Market links when restoring apps
Zero-click background batch backup
Interactive batch restore
Many batch scenarios (eg: if more than N days since last backup, etc)
Zero-click app un-installer
Zero-click system app un-installer
Desktop widgets
Additional features of the Donate version:
Branding to your name
Multiple backups per app (history length can be chosen)
Zero-click background batch restore
Batch verification of all backups
Ultra fast HyperShell (much faster for almost everything)
Market Doctor can remake any broken Market links (only for apps that were backed up with the link in place)
App freezer can disable an app (and make it invisible) without un-installing it
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I just moved from one ROM to another smoothly with Titanium. I recommend it.
How to Backup you Desire before rooting it ?
Titanium requires Rooted phone ......
other Appli ?
You can try Sprite Backup but no application will work that well without root, sorry.
Is anybody test Sprite Backup?
I think MyBackup Pro and Titanium are similar when you have the system app active.
Hi
barring rooting the device and doing a nand backup/restore, I have used Sprite Backup in the past on my diamond (XDAndroid) successfully and it u could also use the application backup/restore with Astro (from the marketplace) and for txt msgs use sms backup -
http://github.com/jberkel/android-sms/tree/restore_backups - Backup/restore to gmail account
I just wiped AvaV6 and put back on AvaV7 and I am not able to restore my applications (I have to do it 1 by 1) in Titanium Backup. I've noticed in certain ROMs it will auto restore them, but for some reason in Ava, it doesn't. What would cause this? Are there any fixes out there for it?
Thanks
Perhaps if you haven't already download a new busybox from the problem bottom. Also do you have the full donation version or just the regular? I have the full donation version witch allows me to restore all apps and system data with prompts.
Did you delete your license file? As far as I know, TB doesn't automatically restore unless you run a batch operation. The only ROMs that restore by themselves are CM6 (that I know of). That's done through the Market and doesn't restore data, however.
TB does them 1 by 1 unless you purchased it.
if you have purchased it, check for your license file, if you havent, go buy it!
My typical app library is not all that extensive. However, since I find myself constantly jumping ROM's (damn you Dungphp! ), it's becoming a pain to reinstall all the apps. So I installed Titanium Backup, and ran the batch – “Backup all user apps + system data”. Is the system data only the data for the apps Titanium backs-up? Any recommendations on how to best utilize this app, as all I need to do is backup and then restore my apps – preferably with the settings intact?
Thx
Don't backup system data, you are inviting trouble ! Only backup user apps+data, then once you are on a new ROM just restore them. Restoring system apps causes conflicts and all kinds of timewasting fiddling with settings.
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Don't backup system data, you are inviting trouble ! Only backup user apps+data, then once you are on a new ROM just restore them. Restoring system apps causes conflicts and all kinds of timewasting fiddling with settings.
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Thanks for the reply. Although Apps+Data is not an option. And I am only talking about User Apps - not System apps. My options are: Backup all user apps; Back all system data; Backup all user apps + system data; Forced redo of you backups; Redo your old; Redo backs for modified data…
So then should I just select Backup all user apps? Will that keep my settings intact within those apps?
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Thanks for the reply. Although Apps+Data is not an option. And I am only talking about User Apps - not System apps. My options are: Backup all user apps; Back all system data; Backup all user apps + system data; Forced redo of you backups; Redo your old; Redo backs for modified data…
So then should I just select Backup all user apps? Will that keep my settings intact within those apps?
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Hi,
You are fine to backup "ALL USER APPS",and then you can restore these in new ROMS.
On the backup/restore page,use the "batch" backup.
DO NOT restore "SYSTEM DATA" on new ROMS,as danm200 mentioned.This will cause problems and conflicts!
Is there a settings that will only back up the apps + data that only you have backed up?
What's the best way to move apps and data from n5 L to 6p M? Can we just move the Titanium BU folder to the new device and restore data? Google doesn't restore apps and data from Amazon, and seems to miss some other game data. Just restore Titanium app with Google restore? Or does nfc work with all apps and data (never tried it)?
Not sure what spell check did to the title, supposed to be "Back up data".
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Titanium backup will do the trick, I've found. There are plenty of guides on how to do this. (Seems like you are familiar w/ it though.) http://bfy.tw/29yY
I usually make backups of only the apps I'm concerned about, plus a keyboard.apk I like, plus Amazon stuffs...
Then copy the folder into the SD card area of the new device.
Install TB from Play store on new phone.
Remove apps I'll be restoring, because they auto-installed, and it's kind of annoying but whatever.
Point TB to the folder I copied over, and restore one at a time. I've had some apps go sideways on a batch restore, but I don't know if it was the batch restore or the backup itself which caused the issue. Either way, I do one at a time now.
Enjoy.
More tips:
The First rule of TB is you never restore system apps.
The Second rule of TB is you NEVER restore system apps.
III Commandment : Thou shalt restoreth system apps never, or thy soul shall burn in heck.
If an app you plan on restoring DID NOT AUTO-GOOGLE-RESTORE-thingy during setup, it's a big tip it might not be compatible in some way in your new OS version / device. Go to Play store and check.
Games and other apps that already backup to the cloud - skip those, or at least don't restore them until you install from Play store normally and see how they recover. If they recover fine, then great.
Restore a small # of apps at a time, and test them all.
Hi, after rooting my phone with Magisk and having installed TiBu I proceeded to backup all user app + system data then I installed System app remover and removed some system apps that supposedly were "safe" to remove (briefing) but after a reboot I end up in a bootloop. I had to wipe everything and start from scratch (install ROM + Magisk)
On my first try I did not restore my data using Google + Samsung backup. I tried to restore my apps + system data using TiBu but after several hours of waiting to restore, it did not progress and stuck at 0%
On my second try I restored my data using google+samsung backup. After everything was set and ready I used TiBu's "Restore missing apps + all system data". This time TiBU did progress and completed the restore. After a reboot I start to notice that most of my apps/system settings customization are not even there... To name a few:
I had Full screen gestures instead of the navigation buttons. TiBu did not restore this
I had several accounts that TiBu did not restore (google, outlook, twitter, steam, blizzard, twitter and the list keeps going)
Simple things like Gboard was not even restored as default input method
Settings like one hand mode, edge lightning, quick panel layout, adaptive brightness, screen resolution (the list keeps going) were not restored the way I had them
TL;DR: TiBu did little to nothing despite having the pro version and the appropriate backup
My device:
Galaxy S10+ (Exynos SM-G975F)
Android 10 (G975FXXU3BSKO_G975FOWO3BSKO_ARO) patched with Magisk v20.2-11b7076a (20109)
I feel like I wasted my money..... worst spent 6+ dollars of my life
TiBu is a powerful tool if you know how to use it, in a majority of the cases restoring any complete system backup is always a bad idea. If you ever want to restore system data, you need to use nandroid backup or selected apps in TiBu. When you restore user apps (missing apps in your case) all their data is restored and restored to the level of functionality they had before backing up.
For full-screen gestures, it's likely some mismatch between existing settings and restored system settings.
As for the accounts, it was likely because of restoring the app itself, they would have been there even before you backed them up.
Again, for system settings, you can't rely on TiBu in One UI, restoring system settings barely works in stock android.
My workflow is like this, If I am just tinkering with the system but my phone is stable, I do a nandroid backup (backup in recovery) and try out the mod/feature if it suits me, I continue with it, if not I restore back.
If I know I want to format, I generally need to do this when I've messed up in the system and need to start over. I install all I need in TWRP, setup the system only restoring call and SMS backup from Samsung Cloud, restore missing apps and go through the phone settings and set them up again. This ensures no ****ups from the previous install come back and now that I end up doing it regularly, I can do all this under 30 mins.
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TiBu is a powerful tool if you know how to use it, in a majority of the cases restoring any complete system backup is always a bad idea. If you ever want to restore system data, you need to use nandroid backup or selected apps in TiBu. When you restore user apps (missing apps in your case) all their data is restored and restored to the level of functionality they had before backing up.
For full-screen gestures, it's likely some mismatch between existing settings and restored system settings.
As for the accounts, it was likely because of restoring the app itself, they would have been there even before you backed them up.
Again, for system settings, you can't rely on TiBu in One UI, restoring system settings barely works in stock android.
My workflow is like this, If I am just tinkering with the system but my phone is stable, I do a nandroid backup (backup in recovery) and try out the mod/feature if it suits me, I continue with it, if not I restore back.
If I know I want to format, I generally need to do this when I've messed up in the system and need to start over. I install all I need in TWRP, setup the system only restoring call and SMS backup from Samsung Cloud, restore missing apps and go through the phone settings and set them up again. This ensures no ****ups from the previous install come back and now that I end up doing it regularly, I can do all this under 30 mins.
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Thank you for taking your time to reply this thread, I am clearly new at this and I am barely scratching the surface. Gonna try and search more info about this "nandroid backup" (not even know what this is and how it works) you mention and see how it works. As for "TRWP" I read something about it but per the offical site: "Long story short, TWRP support for Android 10 is going to take a while." and that is why I did not pay attention to this app