[Q] Differences between xRecovery and ClockworkMod Recovery? - XPERIA X10 General

Can someone tell me what is the difference between these two recoveries and why we can't run CWM on our x10s?

CMW is based on Android's Native recovery. Unfortunately the Native recovery is protected under the bootloader so tmit has to be cracked in order to use CMW...
Jim

And you can use CMW without (some) important systemfiles...

xrecovery isn't really a real recovery. it just uses boot-hijacking.

realunited123 said:
xrecovery isn't really a real recovery. it just uses boot-hijacking.
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but it has basically the same functions as CWM right?
eg. flashing zips, backup/restore, wiping cache, etc.

aR_ChRiS said:
but it has basically the same functions as CWM right?
eg. flashing zips, backup/restore, wiping cache, etc.
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Yes has same functions but like realunited said uses different method.
Running WB cm 6.1.3 V061 modded and themed by me

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[Q] Restoring my mt4g

I rooted my phone. I flashed it. and i was attempting to put in iced glacier. I messed up one of the steps -.-
On the clockworkmod recovery i backed up my phone.
I restored it then hit reboot now.
I've waited for a while.. But all i'm getting is the mytough 4g screen >.<
Any ideas?
boot back into recovery and clear cache, advanced>dalvik cache, and data
cybereclipse said:
boot back into recovery and clear cache, advanced>dalvik cache, and data
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I think I am in the same boat as the OP.
I rooted the Mt4g, backed up stock Sense Froyo with Clockworkmod 3, then installed Cyanogenmod 7 with Clockworkmod 3.
I want to revert back to the stock Sense Froyo. I simply did a restore in Clockworkmod 3 to my Sense Froyo backup, and now all it shows is the white Mt4g screen.
Will clearing the cache and data before restoring the Sense Froyo be my fix too?
Thanks. OP, didnt mean to take over your thread but I think we are having the same issue so didnt want to make another thread.
The version of ClockworkMod Recovery you are using MATTERS. It MATTERS VERY MUCH.
Froyo based ROMs, including Stock and Iced Glacier, must be backed up, restored, and installed with CWMR Version 2. Gingerbread based ROMs such as CM7 must be backed up, restored, and installed with CWMR Version 3.
A higher number does not mean better. There are filesystem differences between Froyo and Gingerbread that require the correct tools.
There is a custom version of CWMR for the MT4G that can handle both types of filesystems (assuming you haven't already used the wrong tools) -- it is called version "3.0.0.6" -- you can look for it on the Development Sub Forum.
Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately I did not know that information at the time when I created the restore file.
When restoring with Clockworkmod 3 failed, I flashed Clockworkmod 2 and restored the recovery made by 3 using 2. Its working so far... It did show one or two errors when I restored.
cybereclipse said:
boot back into recovery and clear cache, advanced>dalvik cache, and data
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So i'm new to all of this.
I don't want to make the wrong move.
I've got CWMR v3.0.0.5
Just to be clear. I go into CWMR. Do i wipe cache partition, then wipe dalvik cache, wipe data.. then restore again? or reboot system now?
OR do I need to flash CWMR 2 or 3.0.0.6? If so. How do i do that without going through rom manager? I'm noob.
Thanks!
Frankasaurus said:
So i'm new to all of this.
I don't want to make the wrong move.
I've got CWMR v3.0.0.5
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That is incompatible with Iced Glacier. You can't use 3.0.0.5 with Iced Glacier, or with the Stock ROM. Ever.
In addition, clearing /cache and /data and the Dalvik cache (which is inside of the /data partition, so won't actually do anything if /data is also reformatted) will not solve your problem. Because ....
The partition with the problem is /system -- which is where the ROM lives. That partition is now in EXT4 format, which a Froyo-based ROM cannot access. The Froyo kernel boots (from the /boot partition) and gets errors when it looks in /system.... and reboots. Hence, your boot loop.
Your easiest fix would be to install CM7 so that you have a functional Android OS on your phone. THEN ..... after getting CM7 running, flash a version 2 image of CWMR from ROM Manager (included in CM7), then boot it, and install Iced Glacier.
jggimi said:
Your easiest fix would be to install CM7 so that you have a functional Android OS on your phone. THEN ..... after getting CM7 running, flash a version 2 image of CWMR from ROM Manager (included in CM7), then boot it, and install Iced Glacier.
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Sounds like that's the course of action. Any threads leading to how to install CM7 in my situation? I'm watching youtube videos on different things trying to learn the best option. But I don't really want to trust tho
From Recovery 3.0.0.5, mount your SD card for use with USB (in the mounts and storage menu) and transfer a CM7 .zip to the card. Get it from http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?device=glacier
Factory wipe / System Reset from the main menu of Recovery, and install the .zip as you did Iced Glacier.
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CM7 does not include Google Apps. If you were intending to actually =use= the ROM instead of using it temporarily as part of a rescue process, you will likely want them. The .zip can be found at http://android.d3xt3r01.tk/cyanogen/gapps/gapps-gb-20110120-signed.zip -- install from Recovery after installing CM7.
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Boot CM7. You'll find ROM Manager in the App drawer. Use it to Flash a version 2.x CWM Recovery -- look under "All ClockworkMod Recoveries" at the bottom of the ROM Manager main screen.
Long press the power button. Select Reboot. CM7 will prompt you for what kind of boot. Select Recovery.
Do another full wipe/factory reset. Install Iced Glacier .zip as you did previously, and reboot.
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CM7 does not include Google Apps. If you were intending to actually =use= the ROM instead of using it temporarily as part of a rescue process, you will likely want them. The .zip can be found at ... -- install from Recovery after installing CM7.
Boot CM7. You'll find ROM Manager in the App drawer. Use it to Flash a version 2.x CWM Recovery -- look under "All ClockworkMod Recoveries" at the bottom of the ROM Manager main screen.
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So the second zip is only if I want to keep the CM7 ROM? If I do, then I use that zip to get Google Apps?
Also, before I look under "All ClockworkMod recoveries" will I have to install CWM recovery 3.0.0.6 or 2.x first?
In that case. I'll do some research on CM7 too. Idk if iced glacier is better or CM7. Maybe it just depends on preference?
Frankasaurus said:
So the second zip is only if I want to keep the CM7 ROM? If I do, then I use that zip to get Google Apps?
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Correct.
Also, before I look under "All ClockworkMod recoveries" will I have to install CWM recovery 3.0.0.6 or 2.x first?
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3.0.0.6 could be used instead of a 2.x version. But it requires its own manual install. Based on the questions in this thread, I'm not recommending CWM Recovery 3.0.0.6 at this point, as you folks do not have a functioning Android system and would have to modify the 3.0.0.6 install procedures. There's only so much knowledge a person can absorb at once. Get your phones working, first.
In that case. I'll do some research on CM7 too. Idk if iced glacier is better or CM7. Maybe it just depends on preference?
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It is =entirely= a matter of personal preference. There are plenty of people who prefer one over the other. There are also those who prefer neither, and are using yet again another ROM. Poke around in the forum threads here to get a feel for what people think.
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3.0.0.6 could be used instead of a 2.x version. But it requires its own manual install. Based on the questions in this thread, I'm not recommending CWM Recovery 3.0.0.6 at this point, as you folks do not have a functioning Android system and would have to modify the 3.0.0.6 install procedures. There's only so much knowledge a person can absorb at once. Get your phones working, first.
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sweet. So i'll go with the 2.x version then. In that case, I won't have to install it? it'll just be there?
I'm not at home so I can't try any of it out yet. Just trying to learn as much as i can first
ROM Manager should be able to pull the image from the Internet. CM7, even without Google Apps, should automagically connect your phone and its number and its data plane to T-Mobile's network.
zomg. this is sweet. Thanks for all your help!!! I'm gonna keep CM7 for now. I installed the google app zip. Any suggestions on where to start exploring? The main thing that i wanted to root my phone for was to take screenshots. threads? Bah. so much to explore!
So if on 3.0.0.6 and wanting to go from CM7 to IG, you recommend going into "all clockworkmod recoveries", switching over to a 2.0 version (does it matter which?), and then doing backup, wipe, install?
No. 3.0.0.6 is a unique, one-off version that supports both ext3 and ext4 file systems, and deals correctly with both Froyo and Gingerbread ROMs.
If you were on 3.0.0.5, and wished to install a Froyo ROM, you would back up first, before flashing a 2.x Recovery. Think about it.
HTC Glacier CM7 #5
jggimi said:
No. 3.0.0.6 is a unique, one-off version that supports both ext3 and ext4 file systems, and deals correctly with both Froyo and Gingerbread ROMs.
HTC Glacier CM7 #5
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So I can just go directly into recovery from Rom Manager and backup/wipe/install Iced Glacier?
Yep. Please see the threads on it in the development sub forum.
HTC Glacier CM7 #5
jggimi said:
Yep. Please see the threads on it in the development sub forum.
HTC Glacier CM7 #5
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Been reading them, but there is 371 pages in the nighlies thread, and 54 pages in the RC7 thread...I'm bound to miss a thing or two, I'm human
But thank you!
The 3.0.0.6 threads. Much lighter reading.
HTC Glacier CM7 #something

[Q] CWM and xRecovery

Hi, Since new roms need to use CWM to install, and i have my stock backup in xRecovery, my question is. How can i port my stock backup to CWM ?
or i need to go back to stock and install CWM make a new backup ?
Any other solution ?
Thanks
You must back and then install.
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Hmm ok
Thanks
You can install your xrecovery backup with CWM. There is option for this
can we install and use both recoveries in a single rom???
newdon07 said:
can we install and use both recoveries in a single rom???
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Most new ROMs have them both installed but If you haven't, install DualRecovery.zip from the multiboot thread in the development section.
CWM vs xRecovery
I don't want to hijack the OP, but I wanted to understand what the difference between xRecovery and Clockwork Mod.
I originally understood xRecovery was developed as an alternate to CWM because CWM couldn't access certain section of SE's firmware. Am I wrong?
How come we're seeing xRecovery and CWM used together now?
Thanks!
CWM is using a newer type of update-script and it can do more than xrecovery, but this scripting method is more complicated and must be configurated for every device, and I guess that´s why some of the X8´s ROMs are still using xrecovery/amend scripting.
So it´s better when you have them both.

[Q] Installing kernal and roms

Hello everyone, I'm new to this android world, so excuse any newbie questions. I just rooted my transformer using NvFlash. Now I'm ready to install custom roms and kernels. The questions I have is
1. which kernel should I install? netformer or clemsyn-blades? both can overclock to 1.6 and both some upgrade features. also, which one is more stable?
2. if I install custom rom or kernel, will it erase all the data on my transformer? meaning all my save game data, pictures, etc...
This should help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1106587
DaywiTT said:
Hello everyone, I'm new to this android world, so excuse any newbie questions. I just rooted my transformer using NvFlash. Now I'm ready to install custom roms and kernels. The questions I have is
1. which kernel should I install? netformer or clemsyn-blades? both can overclock to 1.6 and both some upgrade features. also, which one is more stable?
2. if I install custom rom or kernel, will it erase all the data on my transformer? meaning all my save game data, pictures, etc...
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Clemsyn-Blades. Netformer kernel is currently for 3.0. Clemsyn-Blades is compatible with 3.1. 3.1 is the ROM you want to be using.
You already have a custom ROM because you used NVFlash.
DaywiTT said:
2. if I install custom rom or kernel, will it erase all the data on my transformer? meaning all my save game data, pictures, etc...
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As long as you don't wipe your data when flashing rom you will not lose it.
Install kernel will not wipe data.
Agreeing with the guys above. Personally I like the PRIME 1.4 rom and Clemsyn-Blades kernal.
Installing the ROM your better off wiping first (but you don't have to... just might lead to other problems) so backup your data. Would also recommend using the [Recovery] ClockworkMod 3.1.0.1-solarnz-R3 Modded for Internal media version of clockwork so that it won't wipe ALL your data, just the 'installed apps' and OS.
Kernal goes on after the Rom and doesn't wipe anything (though again I would recommend wiping cache & Dalvik-cache before & after).
thank for the help. good to know the TF community have such good support.
leonpr said:
Agreeing with the guys above. Personally I like the PRIME 1.4 rom and Clemsyn-Blades kernal.
Installing the ROM your better off wiping first (but you don't have to... just might lead to other problems) so backup your data. Would also recommend using the [Recovery] ClockworkMod 3.1.0.1-solarnz-R3 Modded for Internal media version of clockwork so that it won't wipe ALL your data, just the 'installed apps' and OS.
Kernal goes on after the Rom and doesn't wipe anything (though again I would recommend wiping cache & Dalvik-cache before & after).
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I think NVFlash flashes that version of Clockwork Recovery. I know it flashes Clockwork Recovery for sure, it's most likely that version but I never went to look.
So OP might have it already.
can anyone confirm on what zephiK said about the CWM version from nvflash is in fact the same as ClockworkMod 3.1.0.1-solarnz-R3 Modded for Internal media

ROM Manager Help

To update to cyanogen,
Should I: back up rom, wipe dalvik cache, wipe data cache
Can someone explain what each on means. Thanks!
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First backup in recovery
then wipe data cache and factory reset if you want/having issues with your new rom
Edit: then of course install cyanogen
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If I already have made a backup, do I need to do the first stage
No, but I personally prefer flashing a ROM in Recovery Mode (Clockworkmod Recovery), rather than using ROM Manager.
3xeno said:
No, but I personally prefer flashing a ROM in Recovery Mode (Clockworkmod Recovery), rather than using ROM Manager.
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Actually, I think the ROM Managers way of installing is still from the recovery, it just skips the menus.
nejc121 said:
Actually, I think the ROM Managers way of installing is still from the recovery, it just skips the menus.
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Obviously, but I still prefer it the long way, which is simply what I was saying.
3xeno said:
Obviously, but I still prefer it the long way, which is simply what I was saying.
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Yea, I prefer the long way as well, because most of the time I have other stuff to flash

[q] is there twrp recovery for mortorola bravo?

in teamwin official website i couldn't find twrp recovery support for motorola bravo, however motorola defy was in the list to get twrp recovery.
does TWRP for defy work on bravo? or we need a different for bravo? i love that recovery ...can some body help me install that on my bravo???
hiandro said:
in teamwin official website i couldn't find twrp recovery support for motorola bravo, however motorola defy was in the list to get twrp recovery.
does TWRP for defy work on bravo? or we need a different for bravo? i love that recovery ...can some body help me install that on my bravo???
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The Defy TWRP works on the Bravo, but its only up to version 2.1 and can't install large Aroma roms (WR, Pikachu, etc). Your better off reading the thread over at Defy Development. Its neat and works, but our custom CWM 5 is the best for us in terms of reliability and stability.
skeevy420 said:
The Defy TWRP works on the Bravo, but its only up to version 2.1 and can't install large Aroma roms (WR, Pikachu, etc). Your better off reading the thread over at Defy Development. Its neat and works, but our custom CWM 5 is the best for us in terms of reliability and stability.
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can u give me link to download latest CWM please.
hiandro said:
can u give me link to download latest CWM please.
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Its installed be default with CM10 or PA. The newer the rom, the newer the recovery.
You can copy the zip/system/bootmenu/.... to other roms to get the touch ui in the bootmenu, just don't overwrite your current roms init scripts....and use a PRE 2nd Kernel zip when porting the bootmenu to non custom kernel roms. This isn't something I'd advise doing cause if you don't know what your fully doing you can easily put yourself in a position to flash the sbf. I sbf'd 3 times adding the JB Touch bootmenu to CM7.
skeevy420 said:
Its installed be default with CM10 or PA. The newer the rom, the newer the recovery.
You can copy the zip/system/bootmenu/.... to other roms to get the touch ui in the bootmenu, just don't overwrite your current roms init scripts....and use a PRE 2nd Kernel zip when porting the bootmenu to non custom kernel roms. This isn't something I'd advise doing cause if you don't know what your fully doing you can easily put yourself in a position to flash the sbf. I sbf'd 3 times adding the JB Touch bootmenu to CM7.
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I installed cm10 then after I went to stable recovery and I wipe data/factory reset and then wipe cache and again wipe dalvik cache,and then I went to install zip from SD card and then choose mokee and flashed the zip.and when I reboot the phone it got stuck at Motorola red logo. again i boot into recovery (it was different, which mokee installed maybe)and when i wipe data and cache it said something like this:can't mount E/cache/recovery/log .and then i went to backup and restore and restored my cm10 backup and it only restored system(no data) why did this happen did I did something wrong?? or is there problem in recovery?? please tell me about this.
hiandro said:
I installed cm10 then after I went to stable recovery and I wipe data/factory reset and then wipe cache and again wipe dalvik cache,and then I went to install zip from SD card and then choose mokee and flashed the zip.and when I reboot the phone it got stuck at Motorola red logo. again i boot into recovery (it was different, which mokee installed maybe)and when i wipe data and cache it said something like this:can't mount E/cache/recovery/log .and then i went to backup and restore and restored my cm10 backup and it only restored system(no data) why did this happen did I did something wrong?? or is there problem in recovery?? please tell me about this.
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I have a couple of ideas, but I'd be guessing with all of them. Probably just an error from CM10 using a newer recovery than Mokee. Since CM10's /system was restored, so was its bootmenu\recovery -- try doing a full restore now that you're using the same recovery that backed it up .
Crap like this is why we need an unlocked bootloader, or even just a place to hide a custom recovery -- with every rom you flash, your recovery changes and bad things can\have happened. While its nowhere as bad as it once was, problems like yours still occur from time to time. Its the same reason that there's so many posts with people having problems from using BandroidX Recovery -- its a very old CWM based recovery that uses different formats than whats used now (can't even install newer roms with it). Old and new don't usually play nicely with us .
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I have a couple of ideas, but I'd be guessing with all of them. Probably just an error from CM10 using a newer recovery than Mokee. Since CM10's /system was restored, so was its bootmenu\recovery -- try doing a full restore now that you're using the same recovery that backed it up .
Crap like this is why we need an unlocked bootloader, or even just a place to hide a custom recovery -- with every rom you flash, your recovery changes and bad things can\have happened. While its nowhere as bad as it once was, problems like yours still occur from time to time. Its the same reason that there's so many posts with people having problems from using BandroidX Recovery -- its a very old CWM based recovery that uses different formats than whats used now (can't even install newer roms with it). Old and new don't usually play nicely with us .
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Yeah, i tried to restore backup using cm10 recovery and although it said cant restore .android.secure something like that(iam not quite sure) it restored system as well as data.
The thing is i like mokee os .its speed, clean and clear... ecetra but it is not jelly bean.can't we have a cm10 tweaked and modified for bravo.of course I love your PA jelly bean there are lots of tablet tweaks can you also add some other functions like in pimp my rom.
And thanks man for answering my queries

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