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[Q] SO confused w/ ROMs/images/kernels/uggh. Need help w/ what to do :(

My head is aching with the sheer amount of information it is trying to process. I got a Nook Color about a month ago but have been putting off using it because I am still trying to figure out how to do what I want to do.
I've been going over the threads on the dev forum and after reading a lot of the threads, I still can't find exactly what I need (or maybe I've found it but I just haven't realized it yet).
My Nook Color is running latest official update from B&N (meaning 2.2 and B&N apps).
Anyway here's what I need:
1. I need to be able to dual boot into either HC or a rooted gingerbread-based version of android (is this the clockwork 7 thing?) solely from an SD card
2. Should not do anything to the Nooks internal memory (meaning: won't void warranty)
3. The dual boot manager, HC and and gingerbread-based version of android should all run on sd card. nothing will be placed/done on the nook (is this it? i'm so confused i'm not even sure anymore --- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045018)
4. The dual boot manager will still have the ability to install other custom roms on to the sd card when i put the zip file of the image on to the sd card (something like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957)
5. Should have the overclock thingamajig
Anyway, are there any solutions to this? the "Dualboot Phiremod / Honeycomb Image for SDcard" seems the closest so far but I can't figure out if it installs a rom manager into the SD card with which I can install newer versions of the overclock kernel or newer versions of the custom ROMS based on HC preview or newer version of the CM7 nightly image. gaaaah.
Please help >_<. I promise I'm not stupid. This is just like information overload and I seriously am having a real headache (not just figuratively) right now.

Follow the thread below. From it, you can install plain CM7 (the best known gingerbread rom) strictly onto your SD card. If you have multiple cards, you can try out the different flavors of CM7:
CM7 Stable (latest is 7.0.3); OR
CM7 Nightly (latest is 76); OR
Beta CM7 .32 kernel, though this one is still has some bugs.
Phiremod is a themed CM7 which I haven't tried, while the above are more plain vanilla android. Also use a Sandisk card if you have one as they seem to have better overall speed regardless of Class, at least 2gb size or bigger.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957

Hi LBN1, thanks for the quick reply.
Does this work process allow me to install HoneyComb as well as a separate boot option?

I just realized that I'm actually looking for an SD dual boot of HC and CM7 w/ OC. Does this exist? >.<

Oh, this process is not for a dual booting SD card. It allows a rom on a SD card, and then take out the SD card and you can boot to stock B&N software, so it is a quasi dual boot so to speak. There are some actual dual boot options out there but I don't have any experience with any of them...
Same thing with Honeycomb roms, never tried any of them since from what I read they are still in early, beta stages meaning they really don't work as well as CM7.

LBN1 said:
Oh, this process is not for a dual booting SD card. It allows a rom on a SD card, and then take out the SD card and you can boot to stock B&N software, so it is a quasi dual boot so to speak. There are some actual dual boot options out there but I don't have any experience with any of them...
Same thing with Honeycomb roms, never tried any of them since from what I read they are still in early, beta stages meaning they really don't work as well as CM7.
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Hehe... yeah I kinda figured that out What I had in mind was something along the lines of dual booting HC/CM7 via SD card and removing the SD card if I wanted to boot to the stock 1.2 (so it's a quasi triple boot) >_<
But thanks for your help!

I think the easiest thing you can do right now is to try the Phiremod/Honeycomb Dual boot sd image which I see you already found out. It wont change or touch your internal system so you are safe. Also its already prepared for you so you just need to burn the img into the sd.
If inserted, the sd image will boot to either Phiremod (which is really a themed version of CM7 7.02 - with the update provided in the same thread or to Honeycomb). I use it and works quite well!!!! It is fast also (provided you use the recommended Sandisk class 4 sd card) as it is overclocked from the sd which you also want.
When I want to use stock BN I just boot without the sd and thats it! I also rooted the internal BN as well to add overclock to the stock BN 2.2 and it is quite snappy when OC to 1.1 mhz.

Hi Garoto! that's good to hear! can you point me to the thread for rooting the internal BN and adding overclock to the stock 2.2? i want to try that as well

pryonix said:
Hi Garoto! that's good to hear! can you point me to the thread for rooting the internal BN and adding overclock to the stock 2.2? i want to try that as well
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Sure no problem:
1. To root the 1.2 version Nook just follow the steps in this thread, it is not as complicated as it sounds:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054027
2. To install the OC Kernel I used this thread. Pretty simple process. After you root , go to the market and install ROM manager, then do flash clockwork and then reboot to recovery, then do update from zip in sd card and flash the OC Kernel. I used the 1,1 mhz as it is stable and really speed things up:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1064095

pryonix said:
Hi Garoto! that's good to hear! can you point me to the thread for rooting the internal BN and adding overclock to the stock 2.2? i want to try that as well
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Keep in mind, overclocking definitely technically voids the warranty (as does rooting). Since you mentioned it. Just as bad as installing stuff on the internal EMMC.

greenmky said:
Keep in mind, overclocking definitely technically voids the warranty (as does rooting). Since you mentioned it. Just as bad as installing stuff on the internal EMMC.
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Haha yup... just wanted to know as a "just in case I feel brave enough to void my warranty" haha!

A Couple of Questions Please if I May :D

First of all, really big KUDOS MUCHACHOS to the CM7 Dev guys! I had already donated a pretty hefty amount due to using CM7 so much on my Evo but I donated again cuz this is awesome! I do have a couple of questions tho, which I can't fine answers to. I did search for them but really had no luck. The NC community is not yet as organized as the EVO one, I am getting conflicting information and in general having a really ***** of a time finding anything so sorry if some of this has been answered(Im sure that's likely the case at least for some of them).
I used the size-agnostic SD card thing to make the SD Card i had into a CM7 install. Running the latest stable(as of 2 days ago). But thing of moving it all to internal memory. So here are my questions.
1: If I do this, will I be able to still access the real NC OS that shipped with the device? The Nook for Android app sucks, it won't play several of the books I already got(says they are invalid format when I try to DL them) so it is imperative to me that I keep access to the NC OS i have now(but I wouldn't care if it were on the SD card as long as it worked for reading books).
2: What will CM7 be like if I do this? I am gonna assume it won't take so long to boot anymore? Will it basically be a giant phone? Full access to the SD card? Still able to use the internal memory as storage(I use it to store music now)? Work exactly like my Evo does now? Except that it won't make calls of course.
3: Rooting. It seems that so many people are running CM7 that the guides/walkthroughs on rooting are hard to find. So a simple question or two pls Which method should I use? What, if any, are the drawbacks? I would still run CM7 most of the time but while in NC OS to read or something it would be nice to have access to android market etc as long as it wont effect my install of CM7.
4: CM7 nightlies. Can I run them from the SD card as well? If so can I just flash them right over my current SD card install without losing everything?
5: Can i run the OC Kernal while running CM7 from the SD card or do I have to run on Internal Memory for that to be possible?
Thanks for taking the time to read this pls answer any questions that you can I'd appreciate it so much!

robertroland said:
First of all, really big KUDOS MUCHACHOS to the CM7 Dev guys! I had already donated a pretty hefty amount due to using CM7 so much on my Evo but I donated again cuz this is awesome! I do have a couple of questions tho, which I can't fine answers to. I did search for them but really had no luck. The NC community is not yet as organized as the EVO one, I am getting conflicting information and in general having a really ***** of a time finding anything so sorry if some of this has been answered(Im sure that's likely the case at least for some of them).
I used the size-agnostic SD card thing to make the SD Card i had into a CM7 install. Running the latest stable(as of 2 days ago). But thing of moving it all to internal memory. So here are my questions.
1: If I do this, will I be able to still access the real NC OS that shipped with the device? The Nook for Android app sucks, it won't play several of the books I already got(says they are invalid format when I try to DL them) so it is imperative to me that I keep access to the NC OS i have now(but I wouldn't care if it were on the SD card as long as it worked for reading books).
2: What will CM7 be like if I do this? I am gonna assume it won't take so long to boot anymore? Will it basically be a giant phone? Full access to the SD card? Still able to use the internal memory as storage(I use it to store music now)? Work exactly like my Evo does now? Except that it won't make calls of course.
3: Rooting. It seems that so many people are running CM7 that the guides/walkthroughs on rooting are hard to find. So a simple question or two pls Which method should I use? What, if any, are the drawbacks? I would still run CM7 most of the time but while in NC OS to read or something it would be nice to have access to android market etc as long as it wont effect my install of CM7.
4: CM7 nightlies. Can I run them from the SD card as well? If so can I just flash them right over my current SD card install without losing everything?
5: Can i run the OC Kernal while running CM7 from the SD card or do I have to run on Internal Memory for that to be possible?
Thanks for taking the time to read this pls answer any questions that you can I'd appreciate it so much!
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I'll answer what I can.
1: Nope, stock ROM is replaced when you install CM7 to emmc. No way around it.
2: I'll have to defer on this one, I've always run from SD card. BTW, you are running from a class 2 card, right? The "faster" cards have serious issues.
3: My understanding is that you have to use ManualNooter for B&N 1.2. I haven't gotten around to rooting it since I upgraded to 1.2, but it was painless on the earlier ROM. There were no drawbacks, besides the fact that it's not CM7. ;-)
4: Yup, they just flash right over just as long as your following verygreen's instructions.
5: Yup, OC from SD works fine.

I don't know the specs on my SD card, it's whatever came with my EVO. I upgraded to a 32gb on the EVO so I used the old one for the Nook. My Evo is only a couple months old if that helps ya.

[Q] new and don't know where to start

Ok My wife bought me a nook color and I'd like to make it into a tablet. I found a video on youtube that has it running cm7 on a micro SD card but then then runs the stock NC software so as to not void the warranty.
I've tried reading the nook devs, and multiple how to's but feel a bit lost. Can someone point me to
1) step by step instructions even an idiot can follow
2) a link to the different mods and how they are different
3) where these mods are found.
I'd like a way to do this using free software. One place i found to just buy the mod on an SD card and just install it. One other place gave some instruction but needed software that had to be bought (unzippers or something along that line).
thanks for any information I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed..
Shaun

I started my NC journey by reading some good, but outdated, guide on how to do root and flash custom ROM to the NC. It took me some time to find the correct program to use.
manualnooter: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054027
This post has a rather detailed instruction. Note that you will be installing a custom ROM onto NC and will void warranty... but you can also flash the stock ROM back to the NC in case you need to use that warranty so you don't really lose much.
I forgot which ROM the manualnooter procedure would install, but I think the current most popular and stable ROM is cyanogenmod 7.
Unfortunately the entire procedure will take beginners more than 10 hours to have a grasp on how to do things and maybe poking around and see why some things work that way.

Welcome!
I've personally installed CM7 to emmc (internal memory) using these steps:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11452450&postcount=19
I was also using the microSD card method, and the steps below are good to follow:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
I would recommend using the latest nightly vs a labeled "stable" release. The nightlies have a lot of improvements and are in fact very stable these days. The only thing you'll need is a microSD card, a card reader, and a little bit of patience. It's really not hard, but just make sure to follow all of the steps. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask or search previous threads

I was considering a nightly build.. the nightly builds I need to find the encore build right? (wonder why we call these units encore). Secondly I was wondering if theres an option out there that allows a plain version of gingerbread without the cm7 markation all over the place. Is there functionality in the CM7 builds that I wouldn't get with a pure gingerbread build?

Yeah - encore is the codename for the Nook Color. I think it came from the initials NC....encore. You can always find them at
http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?device=encore
I'm actually not sure if there is a pure gingerbread rom out there. CM7 is based on the official release of GB, and adds some nice things for the nook -- one big one is the honeycomb style soft keys at the bottom since the NC doesn't have the normal android hardware keys.

For newbie, I strongly recommend installing and running CM7 off the uSD first.
Play with it for a while, get used to it, familiar with it while spending more time reading threads/posts in here then thinking about switching it to eMMC or rooted NC later.
Installing and running off uSD are much more simple and easier.
The requirement is: a good (SanDisk class 4 reported as very good) uSD, 8GB or 16GB.
Then follow this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957

Cyanogen has this quirky little tradition of naming the software release after the original code name of the device. The Nook Color was code named "Project Encore" (http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2010/10/nook-color-likely-dropping-this-week-image-leaked/) by the developers, so the NC is the Encore in CM7. (Similarly, my old Motorola Cliq is called "Morrison" and my T-Mobile G2 is called "Vision")
And Stock Gingerbread doesn't have a number of things which are very useful for Tablets, such as the taskbar "soft buttons" for back, search, home, and menu, as well as the ability to put the taskbar on the bottom, and adjust the lock screen as you see fit. CM7 has all of these, plus the ever popular "much, much more!" The CM7 developers and mods have really outdone themselves and made the Nook Color a massively useful device.

votinh said:
For newbie, I strongly recommend installing and running CM7 off the uSD first.
Play with it for a while, get used to it, familiar with it while spending more time reading threads/posts in here then thinking about switching it to eMMC or rooted NC later.
Installing and running off uSD are much more simple and easier.
The requirement is: a good (SanDisk class 4 reported as very good) uSD, 8GB or 16GB.
Then follow this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
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+1 This.
Follow the instructions in that link and you should have a working microSD CM7 installation. 3 things to add to those instructions though:
1.) Try using Win32DiskImager instead of WinImage. People have had problems writing the image with WinImage. The only problem I've seen reported with Win32DiskImager is that sometimes you cannot create a good usable image of a disk greater than 4GB.
2.) If you are looking for a good usable card, get this one. It includes a good USB microSD reader to use when writing the image.
3.) This one is optional. The default SD card image writes an approximately 120MB boot partition to the microSD. With the latest nightly releases of CM7 you can run into issues if you are trying to install both CM7 and gapps at the same time. It is recommended to resize the initial partition upwards in size. Some folks put it over a GB but in my mind a few hundred MB should be fine. The most popular tool to do this with is EASUS Partition Master. I haven't personally done this since it is something that has to be done before the initial install and I had mine up and running before running into this problem.
- Aerlock

oI bought a microSD from merit line. Its an ADATA BRAND 16GB CLASS 10. it had good reviews and some places I read to stay with above a class 6 or better. I hope this doesn't cause a problem or my wife will be upset... LOL
I was watching a video on youtube about this process and they mentioned not having all the memory on the microSD available due to the partitions. they used the same partition manager to maximize the storage on the card. Will this be needed or does something happen automatically to use make all the uSD card usable?

With that brand, with that speed, keep all of your fingers crossed and prayed.
And after few weeks of enjoy the CM7, if you start seeing weird things, you then can start blaming the uSD.

does it matter what version software i start with? I've been reading around and see everything from making sure that your on 1.0.1 to 1.3? I'm lost?
Also since I'm wanting to do this all on the MicroSD then this may not be an issue but I've heard some say also to log on first and make sure I sign in with barnes and noble before doing anything. is that important or not?
Lastly. does rooting or anything leave a permanent record in turn voiding warranty or can it be taken back so the factory doesn't know.

Rooting does not leave any records. All you need is to return to factory stock before sending in for warranty

ok I've tried the version 1.3 over and over and each time I get the same problem. after reboot it comes to the blue android on a skateboard it it just keeps running in circles. it will go black occasionally but then right back to the android on the skate board.. what might I have done wrong?
I used the installer in verygreens 1.3 posts and cm_encore_full-209 nightly build

calixt0 said:
ok I've tried the version 1.3 over and over and each time I get the same problem. after reboot it comes to the blue android on a skateboard it it just keeps running in circles. it will go black occasionally but then right back to the android on the skate board.. what might I have done wrong?
I used the installer in verygreens 1.3 posts and cm_encore_full-209 nightly build
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Lets test that card and make sure it's gonna work. Go here and get Crystal Disk Mark. Install it and plug your microSD card into your computer. Run the default tests and post them here. We're looking for the 4k read/write speeds in particular. If they aren't around 1.0 then you're likely to have a problem running CM7 off the card.
My suspicion is that since its a Class 10 card it's optimized for large block writes and not small block writes. Card manufacturers will trade off small block write speed to get the higher class ratings instead of going for overall speed. SanDisk seems to be the exception to this in that they do not tweak their cards to get the high speeds which why they're the recommended card for SD install of CM7.
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[Q] NOOK COLOR Rooting......

I have a brand new Nook Color the Software Version (in about my Nook) says 1.2.0. what is the easyest way to go about rooting? is there a specific version of CM7 that I should use? What is the best rooting method or system to use? I am totally new to all this so some step by step instructions or detailed informatio would be great!!! Thanks for all you guys help!!!

There are several decisions you need to make before you start. Do you want to have dual boot (meaning that you can switch between stock rom and another rom of your choosing? In these case you would be running the non stock rom from the sd card. Or, do you want to go full non stock rom (emmc)? There are different methods for each.
After you decide this, you need to decide which custom rom you would like. The most used are CM7, phiremod and MIUI. CM7 is the most update one and has a lot of following and development.
If like you mention on your post you are looking at using cm7, then I suggest you start with the latest stable version 7.1 (which was released a couple of days ago). You can find the files and instructions in this post and the detail instructions here
Hopefully this can help you, you could also look around in the android development section in the forums for further info and/or wait for more detailed info from more experienced rooter than me

Thanks for the Advise/ information, so if I go dual is it very complicated to switch from one to the other? is there an advantage to being able to switch back and forth? I currently have a 2gb sd card that should be big enough right? Once again thnks for the help..........
Does anyone else have input or feedback???

Just last week I installed CM7 on an SD card in my Nook Color. It's been great so far. I figure I'll try it on the SD card for a while before I do anything more permanent like installing to the internal memory.
When you install to the SD card, you boot back into the "stock" OS by just removing the card.
As for the size of your SD card, I think 2GB is large enough, but that depends on how many apps, etc. you plan to have on it.

When you install to the SD card, you boot back into the "stock" OS by just removing the card.
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I would not recommend doing that. The Nook card slot is a little fragile and excessive swapping will likely damage it. Mine gave out and I rarely remove the card as I have CM7 on the eMMC and only use the card for backups and upgrades. I had a hell of a time restoring the stock ROM so I could return it under warranty. If you are going to run from the card, set it up for dual boot so that you just pick which ROM you want to use when you boot up.

[Q] CM9/ICS on SD Card

I have seen instructions on how to apply CM9/ICS to eMMC and to also set up a dual boot sd card that contains it.
I would prefer at this point to set up an sd card with the most recent and/or stable nightly CM9/ICS only to see what it is all about and what the state of development is.
Could someone provide me with that info, please?
FYI: I am running my original NC having updated my v 1.3 with 5.12.20 instead of going the 1.4.1 route. It pretty much works in terms of my usage and I got the added benefit of having HBO Go work! Still not willing to give up my ability to "read in store".
Thanks in advance for any/all help with this

All the info is here. You just have to read, read some more, and then just read some more.
It all gets so much easier if you do this. Plus you'll find the threads you want to keep an eye on for new info.
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Use the size-agnostic procedure that discusses putting CM7 on an SD card.. just rename the zip file to be compatible for flash. It is in the Dev section

Benzoman said:
All the info is here. You just have to read, read some more, and then just read some more.
It all gets so much easier if you do this. Plus you'll find the threads you want to keep an eye on for new info.
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Having done numerous iterations of various CM and others both internally and on sd cards, I was able to do all of that because I do read this website rather thoroughly!
However, doing this specific task (as a standalone) just did not appear to come up.
I had assumed I could do it the same way I had done CM7 but was not certain due to apps and other issues at this stage.

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Use the size-agnostic procedure that discusses putting CM7 on an SD card.. just rename the zip file to be compatible for flash. It is in the Dev section
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Thanks...any suggestions for which version to try?

Just get the latest nightly on the samiam303 post. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1444943At this point there is nothing that is "stable". Make sure you use the large ics image or you'll need to expand boot. Finally I found I had to load the update and gaaps at the same time without a recovery boot in between to get the google calendar to sync. Runs real nice.

If I may suggest, try Racks triple boot of CM7 and CM9 from SD card -- see his thread
elsewhere on XDA -- I've been running it for several weeks, including latest update fro OC, and everything works fine. ICS is of course still "in process" but you might be surprised at how well it runs. And the CM7 is stable as a rock and swift, especially with the supercharger script installed. And you will still have your original B&N stock in emcc.

Thanks...I saw that and since I had already used CM7 off and on both internally and via an sdcard just didn't want to get into another dual boot scenario.
This time around, I just wanted a simple ICS steup on a dedicated sdcard that I would install when wanting to try it out and replace with my storage sdcard when operating normally with my rooted (5.12.20) 1.3.