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Our new OTA 3.1 build number 8.4.4.11 has been released and we should provide a source for members to see exactly what has changed. Members have noticed some of these:
Overall better stability
Powered by NVidia splash screen with spinning wheel during boot
Option to remove keyboard message
Volume fix
Speaker balance fix
Smoother transition between home screens
Added Tegra Zone app
Added Video App (Google rentals available only in US)
MP4 video playback smooth
WiFi better
Microphone improvement
Screen color improvement
Netflix shows up in Market but still does not work
Typing lag still present
Please add your findings!
UPDATE: Thanks to one of our members @Fixter for finding this on the Internet!
"Asus has release a new Firmware Over The Air (FOTA) update for Asus Eee Pad Transformer… Sadly this is not Android Honeycomb 3.2 update and nothing new for the keyboard dock also… According to the report all around the world the new update increase the volume sound, smooth transition between home screens and an option to disable pop-up notification when not using Asus Keyboard while docking…"
There were 194 files in the update. The complete list of files can be found at:
http://www.atsutane.net/blog/2011/07/asus-transformer-fota-update-8-4-4-11-20110711.html#more-5783
Not much difference
Volume issue not fixed
Still keyboard lag
Zinio was already there
Video added
Weather location and update still a problem on home screen.
Thanks jviola, everyone keep your findings coming!
Overall its a welcomed update, everything seems to run smoother now, I have a feelig this upate was designed to path the way for 3.2 ( that would explain why we can use the Netflix app but not stream).
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Zeon45 said:
Overall its a welcomed update, everything seems to run smoother now, I have a feelig this upate was designed to path the way for 3.2 ( that would explain why we can use the Netflix app but not stream).
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Maybe. I do have 3.2 on my Xoom and Netflix still doesn't even show up in the Market...
Speaker balance fixed.
Volume louder.
GUI/Browser seem snapier.
Lag still present on stock browser.
Rotation from landscapeto portrait seems faster.
Don't lknow how many of this are due to subject impressions ratger than actual improvements .
Regards.
Battery Dock issue fix? really?
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Don't lknow how many of this are due to subject impressions ratger than actual improvements .
Regards.
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I know there have been changes, but I think too many are suffering from the pacebo affects. I wonder if ASUS engineers are laughing right now.
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I know there have been changes, but I think too many are suffering from the pacebo affects. I wonder if ASUS engineers are laughing right now.
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Yes, some of the findings may be placebo effects but when everyone chimes in, we will be able to sort out the real changes. That is the idea of the thread.
The Netflix app shows my queue, allows me to search and add to my queue, has recommendations, etc. It's just that when I go to play a movie it spins and then says there is a network error. I think we're getting Netflix very, very soon.
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I know there have been changes, but I think too many are suffering from the pacebo affects. I wonder if ASUS engineers are laughing right now.
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Could be, but I know I was getting a bit frustrated with overall performance (delays, lags, hesitation, etc.) and don't seem to feel the same way now. I do think things are a bit smoother, but that could also just be the post-update effect. We'll see how it runs after a few days of use.
is the market still not showing movies?
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is the market still not showing movies?
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You have to use the Videos app
Homescreen switching seems smoother, but that could definitely be placebo.
I had an issue where if the tablet was docked to the keyboard and I flip it open, the screen wouldn't read the unlock pattern for the first second or two (green lines don't show up over the dots and nothing happens). This appears to be fixed.
@jhanford reported in the "Just Got an OTA Update" thread:
So this is easily more than just a kernel update.
In addition to the kernel, there's 94 patches in /system/app alone with another 80 patches throughout the rest of the filesystem!
That's pretty impressive for an interim release especially if they do release 3.2 in the next couple of weeks.
Awesome!
The only thing I noticed out of everything is better wifi signals (through speedtests and router signal checking). I don't really know much about the rest since I took the OTA and selectively applied some patches to my Prime 1.5 ROM by using bsdiff to apply the .p files. (it has to be done with the original 8445 files, not prime 1.5 files because some prime 1.5 files are based on 8447 CN, bsdiff patch files doesn't have a md5 or crc32 hash stored on the patch file so it doesn't check for original file integrity before patching)
The update most definitely fixed my deep sleep/power on issue. A single press of the power button brings my Transformer to attention now...every time. Prior to the update, I had to press the power button multiple times.
Homescreen transitions are also very smooth now.
Im still on 3.0 it never wants to update Idk why. Any suggestion
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Our new OTA 3.1 build number 8.4.4.11 has been released and we should provide a source for members to see exactly what has changed. Members have noticed some of these:
Volume/Speaker fix
Battery Dock issue fix
Smoother transition between home screens
Added Tegra Zone app
Added Video App
Netflix shows up in Market but still does not work?
Typing lag still present
WiFi better?
Please add your findings!
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Are you sure about the Battery Dock issue fix? Would be pretty awesome, but I don't really believe it. I'm at Prime 1.5 atm so I cannot test it myself. Can anyone confirm this fix?
** DISCLAIMER: I AM NOT A DEVELOPER. I DO THIS AS A HOBBY AND SHARE MY FINDINGS IN CASE SOMEONE ELSE FINDS THEM USEFUL. **
** THIS WORKED ON MY DEVICE BUT IT MAY NOT WORK ON YOURS. APPLY AT YOUR OWN RISK **
Background:
Tablet Z is an amazing device. I have had a number of different Android devices with comparable specs but nothing has come close to this one in overall performance, durability, build, and stability. The question that I did not find an answer for and made me write this info piece is: what is the best stock ROM for this tablet that can offer the best overall stability and power consumption. Note that a lot of what follows are matters of opinion and personal preferences and you should probably tweak based on your specific needs. So first some basics.
Basics:
There is an empirical finding that the best performance is achieved from the ROMs that are available about six months to a year after the release of any given device and here is the justification. The device is initially shipped with the Android version available at the time of the release. This initial version is invariably buggy because the fast design cycles of these things do not allow a comprehensive test drive by the vendor. So the consumers report the bugs, they get patched, and about 6 months later everything is wrapped into the next version of Android and pushed as an update. This second ROM release is much more stable than the first one but still lacking a few things here and there, which brings us to the next major ROM that will fix most everything.
By this time we are 6 months to a year into the life of the product and the market is now seeing other devices with higher processing power and better specs. The Android releases at any given point in time are tweaked towards the expected performance of the devices that are available at that time. So the next update for your now-more-than-a-year-old device will have nicer features but it is geared towards other devices that are faster and better than yours. So now you upgrade to the third release and you will find that while all the initial bugs are gone the device is laggy and the battery goes down faster than it used to. Most devices don't have a straightforward procedure to downgrade to an older version (at least for the common user) and therefore you will just write this off as your device being too old and slow and then you will be likely convinced by a Sony salesperson to buy the next generation tablet and that is the end of that.
The key is to identify that sweet spot where the OS is stable and fast and tweak the performance there and NOT upgrade anymore. Let me say something about software upgrade while I have your attention. I have sadly found that a lot of people upgrade their phone/tablet OS without really knowing why they do it. Sometimes it almost looks like a fashion trend that since my neighbor is running his/her phone on Kitkat I must upgrade from Jellybean too. This often results in a slowdown of your system and sometimes even makes it impossible to do cool stuff such as rooting your device, because new updates close loopholes and vulnerabilities.
Xperia Tablet Z Stock Roms:
Before we get into that, let's mention the non-stock Roms such as AOSP and CM and their derivatives. There may be a compelling argument for certain cases where for example the vendor either heavily loads the device with bloatware that is difficult to remove or a custom Rom is needed to improve power or increase the performance by overclocking and whatnot. This is very true of some Samsung models with great hardware that are actually degenerated to slow devices with over-bloating and a little help from possessive phone operators like AT&T. However, this is not particularly true for Sony, or at least not yet. The Sony bloat is minimal and easy to remove and what Sony packs with the OS, such as multi-window, remote control, and Bravia engine, are in fact quite useful especially if you are using the device in a Sony ecosystem like with a big screen TV. Besides, Sony is very open-source friendly so there are not a whole lot of locked down features that you may need a custom ROM to get around. So I will limit this discussion to Sony's official Rom releases.
XTZ was initially shipped with 10.1.C.0.344 Android 4.1.2 in the US. Within a few months they upgraded it and if you like most people bought your tablet in the summer of 2013 it probably came with 10.1.C.0.370. This was to fix a touch sensitivity problem and improve WiFi. No update however is complete without limiting the ability of the user to root the device so Sony patched a vulnerability that allows the method of rooting you find inside the menus of Flashtool. Soon another vulnerability was discovered and a piece of code was written by Doomslord which would remain the only safe way to root XTZ until Towelroot was born. The update also removed the ability to choose the number of active cores, which was not the end of the world of course.
This release arguably has the best user interface which located the important touch keys on the bottom left and right sides of the screen, which is easy to operate when you grab the tablet with two hands. However, it had a few performance issues. For example, adding a weather widget would introduce a visible lag when swiping the home screen. It didn;t take long before users started nagging on different forums about how they are not running the latest Android version and how Sony should release it ASAP,... and Sony did.
Android 4.2.2 (10.3.1.C.0.136) removed the nice tablet UI. Soft button keys were now at the bottom center of the display with nothing on the left and right sides, which makes it awkward to grab the tablet with two hands and operate these keys at the same time. The notification area that was previously on the bottom right hand side would now be relocated to the top banner which resulted in a loss of screen real estate, and this pissed off a lot of users including yours truly. In all fairness it was not Sony's fault because this was a decision made by Google to unify tablet and phone interfaces beyond 4.2.2. Sony did their best to give something back (Quick Settings option in top notification bar) and mitigate the lost screen area (Semi-transparent bar in lockscreen). Then there were added features like multi-user support, ability to change the length of “preview time” after shooting a snap from camera, widgets on both homescreen and lockscreen,Video Unlimited movie app integration, updated media apps, my Xperia app to track the tablet in case it is lost, and official support 64 GB SD card.
The initial 4.3 release (10.4.B.0.577) changed the UI to a white theme that looks a lot like Xperia Z1 and Z Ultra: new improved smart camera app and new Xperia wallpapers (like Xperia Z1). A cool feature was added that allows the downloading of themes which change the navigation bar and status bar colors, and the soft keys icons as well. New keyboard app was added with one-hand keyboard settings. Also, a Windows Tethering option made it possible to pair the tablet with Windows 8.1. All welcome options which made most of us get over the grudge caused by the removal of the Tablet UI. Screen was calibrated for a brighter display and restricted profiles settings added more control of the multi-user feature.
The best feature which went unnoticed by many was the new version of Battery STAMINA Mode. Not that the older one needed any serious make-over but this one offered even a longer battery life. By now, almost all the lag observed in earlier versions were gone. For example, the weather widget would no longer self-update until the swiping was complete and this provided a significant smoothness in home display transitions. Finally, the 4.3 update 10.4.1.B.0.109 reduced the display flickering, improved battery life, shortened shutdown times, and fixed a problem which made it possible to use Bluetooth without losing WiFi.
Sometime in May of 2014 Sony released the long-awaited 4.4.2 Kitkat update (10.5.A.0.230) and this was when things started to go south. Sure, there where enhancements in camera app, ability to add emojis to messages, screenshots via the power menu, updates to Email, Calendar, and other apps, and good looking live wallpapers. But nothing could hide the fact that the tablet was now visibly slower and the battery would drain much faster. Sony admitted that the battery drain is a real problem and traced it to a buggy version of the Google services, which the user could uninstall or disable but that didn't make the update any faster.
The fact is, Xperia Tablet Z has a snapdragon S4 running at 1.5GHz, which from an antutu score perspective sets it at around the 20-21k mark. For comparison consider the Tablet Z2 with a 2.3GHz Snapdragon 801 with an antutu score in the 35000 range and that is really the type of system that the Sony Kitkat update should run on. That's why the tablet becomes so sluggish after the kitkat upgrade. The transitions are visibly slow and even if you disable live wallpapers and other things the settings menus will remain slow. In fact the antutu score after this upgrade drops sharply to around 18000.
Sony eventually released Kitkat 4.4.4 with 10.5.1.A.0.283 in late summer of 2014 and updated that a month or two later with a limited release of 10.5.1.A.0.292 in Nordic countries. These update are more fluid than 4.4.2 with much less lag in different programs. All Kitkat releases have been plagued by a sever battery drain due to a malfunctioning of Google Play services, which is resolved if you update this app to 5.2.08 after the firmware installation. 4.4.4 is still slower in Antutu scores compared to 4.3.
And the winner is...
4.4.4, followed by 4.3.
With the latest Kitkat update (4.4.4) I found that after patching the Google services and minimal debloating the tablet will last 78 days (more than two and half months) in standby. That is pretty impressive. See the screenshots (under Attached Thumbnails). So if you decide to go with 4.4.4, to get the most out of your battery:
1- Upgrade Google Play services to 5.2.08.
2- Go to settings:
Wifi -> Advanced -> Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep -> Never
Wifi -> Advanced -> Scanning always available -> off
Wifi -> Advanced -> Wifi optimization -> on
Power management -> Stamina Mode on and queue background data
3- Disable Google+ and Hangouts (and play store, if you don't use it). I suggest turning off both "Remotely locate" and "allow remote lock" options under Android device manager in Google settings.
4- Uninstall (via Titanium backup) or remove from /system/app and priv-app SonyEntrance.apk and UpdateCenter.apk. If your tablet is wifi only do the same for SemcTelephonyProvider.apk, Stk.apk, phone-usage.apk, and SemcPhone.apk.
The 4.3 update 10.4.1.B.0.109 provides a good battery life too. In standby it can last about 55 days without a recharge (see 1.jpg and 2.jpg). In camparision, the 4.4.2 release lasts about 40-45 days under similar testing conditions. To install 4.3 you can either use this long procedure: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2772943 which gives you a pre-rooted 4.3, with the added benefit of a nice recovery image, or flash a stock ftf and root it with towelroot. Either way you need to learn and use flashtool because this update is no longer available through Sony's update channels. If you decide to go with 4.4.4, to get the most out of your battery:
1- Root and disable non essential programs either using Titanium backup or other methods that require a knowledge of the terminal emulator. On an SGP311 For 4.3 what you typically disable is the following (the list is different for the LTE version!):
B2bCustInstaller, com.sonyericsson.startupflagservice, Crackle, Facebook, FBiX Post Viewer, Gmail (and use the stock Email client if you have want to check your gmail), Google Play Books/Games/Magazines/Movies/Music, Google+ and Hangout, Let's start PSM, McAfee Security, Mobile Data, Mobile Network, Configuration, Netflix, POBox Touch (unless you use Japanese keyboard), Reader, Sim Lock, Sim Toolkit, Social Engine, Socialife, Twitter, Video Unlimited, Wisepilot (which doesn't work anyway!), Xperia AppShare, Xperia Calendar Sync, Xperia Friends' music, Xperia Music Likes, Xperia Social Engine Photos/Sharing (all of them), Xperia Chinese keyboard, Xperia with Facebook and Twitter.
2- Then go to settings:
Wifi -> Advanced -> Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep -> Never
Power management -> Stamina Mode on.
I tried programs like Juice Defender but it seemed that in the presence of Sony's Stamina mode none of that is necessary.
One last detail. As you can see in the picture mobile data is still burning 3% although I froze/disabled it in Titanium. The reason is that while freezing an app prevents it from starting at boot-up, the binary is still in the storage and other apps can still invoke it. If you want that portion to go down to zero you will need to uninstall the app in Titanium (or delete/rename the app to disable it, which requires knowledge of the terminal emulator.)
Update: Sony released 5.0.2 with 10.6.A.0.454 in late spring of 2015 and 5.1.1 in September. The standby battery life is nowhere near the latest 4.4.4 or 4.3.
So that is it folks. Give it a try and see it for yourself. At the end of the day, regardless of the firmware, this is an awesome tablet which will still be around after all of its peers are gone and forgotten.
Thanks for your reply. In general i agree with you that the most stable and responsive (fluid) was 10.4.1.B.0.109 on SGP311/312 and 10.4.1.B.0.101 on SGP321. However you can perform fresh install of 10.5.A.0.230 KitKat, make some performance-wise adjustments/remove-freeze bloatware and you will have practically the same performance. As i did it, i can't distinguish between 4.4 and 4.3 in performance at least visually, however it shows a little bit less score in Antutu, 21500 for JB, 20800 for my adjusted KK, but it doesn't really matter.
This is a great post. Thank you. I noticed the performance since installing KitKat has been sluggish too. I haven't tried optimizing it much, haven't had time, but I'm going to try that before downgrading to 4.3. The animations and transitions are so sluggish its annoying. Makes me want a new tablet to be honest heheh.
Great post! Although I'm still loving 4.4. I really missed immersive mode since I've had Nexus phones.. Anyway after fixing the settings app the other 'glitches' in kitkat weren't noticeable. Battery life's awesome since most of the not needed things are disabled/uninstalled.
I get 3-4 days with moderate to heavy use with about 9-10 hours of screen on time. It's really an indoor tablet for me so the brightness can be as low as minimum with no impact on visibility.
I bought my tablet without thinking 6 months ago but I honestly have 0 regrets. It's a truly amazing multimedia device.
Too bad Cyanogenmod 11 is in a poor state with still buggy nightlies and no proper milestone releases...
And I agree Kitkat feels a bit sluggish on the tablet, especially when you compare it to a Snapdragon 801 phone.
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Too bad Cyanogenmod 11 is in a poor state with still buggy nightlies and no proper milestone releases...
And I agree Kitkat feels a bit sluggish on the tablet, especially when you compare it to a Snapdragon 801 phone.
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Snapdragon itself it a way way more faster chip. Also Sony don't really bother with OS optimizations for old devices.
As per my opinion since i updated .233 update via flashtool that Lag and sluggishness is gone perfectly
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-tablet-z/general/ftf-4-4-10-5-0-233-sgp321-3at-t2789187
Alongwith a little mod with beats audio improves the internal speakers upto 100dbi more who feels tab internal speaker volume is low.
Update to .233 and enjoy the tab to its full capacity
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Thanks for the write-up.
I'm a noob that's researched this to death, and this adds some clarity to whats becoming more murky as I read.
Will probably try to optimize 4.4.2 1st before attempting your link (I'm hoping a couple of other posters on this thread can point me in the right direction - question forthcoming but could you clarify 'or flash a stock ftf and root it with towelroot'? Sorry for the noob question, but 'root after flash' and 'what specific stock ftf' has me lost. Thanks
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Rootk1t said:
Thanks for your reply. In general i agree with you that the most stable and responsive (fluid) was 10.4.1.B.0.109 on SGP311/312 and 10.4.1.B.0.101 on SGP321. However you can perform fresh install of 10.5.A.0.230 KitKat, make some performance-wise adjustments/remove-freeze bloatware and you will have practically the same performance. As i did it, i can't distinguish between 4.4 and 4.3 in performance at least visually, however it shows a little bit less score in Antutu, 21500 for JB, 20800 for my adjusted KK, but it doesn't really matter.
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Do you have a link to the method by which you optimize?
Thanks
gmore1 said:
Thanks for the write-up.
I'm a noob that's researched this to death, and this adds some clarity to whats becoming more murky as I read.
Will probably try to optimize 4.4.2 1st before attempting your link (I'm hoping a couple of other posters on this thread can point me in the right direction - question forthcoming but could you clarify 'or flash a stock ftf and root it with towelroot'? Sorry for the noob question, but 'root after flash' and 'what specific stock ftf' has me lost. Thanks
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Do you have a link to the method by which you optimize?
Thanks
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i installed 4.4.4 which is already optimized by sony. Antutu benchmark +2000 scores comparing to 4.4.2:victory:
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i installed 4.4.4 which is already optimized by sony. Antutu benchmark +2000 scores comparing to 4.4.2:victory:
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You've given me even more homework, but I greatly appreciate the response
I currently have a stock (unlocked/unrooted) Tab Z and if I understood the 4.4.4 posts I've read, the best method to keep root(towelroot for 4.4.2+older) and files is install via OTA which requires an unlocked bootloader, which requires a code from Sony so.... a brief summary of steps to keep my unit as 'open/versatile' as possible here would be....
1:Get code from Sony
2:Unlock bootloader
3:Install Flashtool and root via towelroot (the order here is not important?)
4:Back up files
5:Install 4.4.4 via OTA
Done?
And then I'm left to be able to move back and/or install older firmware?
If this is a PITA to answer, I understand - appreciate any help
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You've given me even more homework, but I greatly appreciate the response
I currently have a stock (unlocked/unrooted) Tab Z and if I understood the 4.4.4 posts I've read, the best method to keep root(towelroot for 4.4.2+older) and files is install via OTA which requires an unlocked bootloader, which requires a code from Sony so.... a brief summary of steps to keep my unit as 'open/versatile' as possible here would be....
1:Get code from Sony
2:Unlock bootloader
3:Install Flashtool and root via towelroot (the order here is not important?)
4:Back up files
5:Install 4.4.4 via OTA
Done?
And then I'm left to be able to move back and/or install older firmware?
If this is a PITA to answer, I understand - appreciate any help
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Be AWARE !
Before unlocking bootloader BE SURE TO BACK UP YOUR TA PARTITION OR YOU WILL LOOSE DRM LICENCE KEYS FOREVER !!!
Google "Sony DRM TA backup" to find more information.
gmore1 said:
You've given me even more homework, but I greatly appreciate the response
I currently have a stock (unlocked/unrooted) Tab Z and if I understood the 4.4.4 posts I've read, the best method to keep root(towelroot for 4.4.2+older) and files is install via OTA which requires an unlocked bootloader, which requires a code from Sony so.... a brief summary of steps to keep my unit as 'open/versatile' as possible here would be....
1:Get code from Sony
2:Unlock bootloader
3:Install Flashtool and root via towelroot (the order here is not important?)
4:Back up files
5:Install 4.4.4 via OTA
Done?
And then I'm left to be able to move back and/or install older firmware?
If this is a PITA to answer, I understand - appreciate any help
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no! no need to unlock bootloader to root device and get OTA.
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no! no need to unlock bootloader to root device and get OTA.
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GretaLewd said:
Be AWARE !
Before unlocking bootloader BE SURE TO BACK UP YOUR TA PARTITION OR YOU WILL LOOSE DRM LICENCE KEYS FOREVER !!!
Google "Sony DRM TA backup" to find more information.
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OK.
I won't be 'developing' anytime soon, so no need to unlock. I just thought in order to access anything newer than 4.4.2 OTA from Sony would require it.
Thank you both and sorry again for the ?'s, but this has been WAY more involved than the days of rooting my Photon
Will continue my research on OTA 4.4.4.
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OK,
No 4.4.4 for SGP312 yet so I guess just be patient and make sure I'm rooted and backed up?
Any link for optimizing in the meantime still appreciated - many searches and I can't find anything.
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No 4.4.4 for SGP312 yet so I guess just be patient and make sure I'm rooted and backed up?
Any link for optimizing in the meantime still appreciated - many searches and I can't find anything.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe...oot-4-4-4-kitkat-sgp311-10-5-1-0-283-t2875885
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-tablet-z/development/root-sp321-ftf-10-5-1-0-283-t2873377
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe...oot-4-4-4-kitkat-sgp311-10-5-1-0-283-t2875885
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-tablet-z/development/root-sp321-ftf-10-5-1-0-283-t2873377
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OK
I was aware of 4.4.4 via FT and PC, but based on a post I had read in another thread, thought only OTA would allow one to maintain root after 4.4.2...
I should have read further into that thread.
This should do it -Thanks again Rootk1t
Can I just clarify... in the first post, it says "On an SGP311 what you typically enable is the following..." Do I take it that should say disable, not enable?
I also noticed that I don't have B2bCustInstaller, but I do have B2bCertInstaller and B2bCustomSetupWizard. Are either of those two, the same as you mentioned?
This latest update (10.5.1.A.0.283) has introduced some annoyances with video playback, so I am trying to get rid of useless apps etc... in the hope that one of them clears things up.
LeeC22 said:
Can I just clarify... in the first post, it says "On an SGP311 what you typically enable is the following..." Do I take it that should say disable, not enable?
I also noticed that I don't have B2bCustInstaller, but I do have B2bCertInstaller and B2bCustomSetupWizard. Are either of those two, the same as you mentioned?
This latest update (10.5.1.A.0.283) has introduced some annoyances with video playback, so I am trying to get rid of useless apps etc... in the hope that one of them clears things up.
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1- Thanks for pointing out the typo. I fixed it in the text.
2- You don't see B2bCustInstaller because Sony disables it by default, but it is still in your system. Leave the other two apps be. They will be dormant.
3- What annoyances are you referring to? I may be able to help if you are more specific.
najoor said:
1- Thanks for pointing out the typo. I fixed it in the text.
2- You don't see B2bCustInstaller because Sony disables it by default, but it is still in your system. Leave the other two apps be. They will be dormant.
3- What annoyances are you referring to? I may be able to help if you are more specific.
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My tablet is primarily a video playback device for the music videos I collect. Before this update, video playback was smooth, after this update, it's just not quite right. What makes me think it's the update, is that I use MX Player Pro, and the video playback isn't smooth in that either. The Sony Movies app is all over the place with playback. One update it's fine, next update it's bad, then it might be okay again, but this update it's just not quite right. It was during a bad period that I decided to get MX Player Pro, which seemed much better... but now it's suffering the same problem.
To most people, it would probably look fine, but as a graphic artist, I find I'm very susceptible to the slightest irregularity in playback. As it affected two players, I presumed that it was a background service or something that was affecting resources enough to affect video decoding.
I would also just like to say thanks for providing that list. My tablet used to take just over an hour to recharge 10% of the battery life back. In just over 6 hours last night, it recharged 80%. So that's a major plus point in my book, so thank you for your efforts. :good:
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My tablet is primarily a video playback device for the music videos I collect. Before this update, video playback was smooth, after this update, it's just not quite right. What makes me think it's the update, is that I use MX Player Pro, and the video playback isn't smooth in that either. The Sony Movies app is all over the place with playback. One update it's fine, next update it's bad, then it might be okay again, but this update it's just not quite right. It was during a bad period that I decided to get MX Player Pro, which seemed much better... but now it's suffering the same problem.
To most people, it would probably look fine, but as a graphic artist, I find I'm very susceptible to the slightest irregularity in playback. As it affected two players, I presumed that it was a background service or something that was affecting resources enough to affect video decoding.
I would also just like to say thanks for providing that list. My tablet used to take just over an hour to recharge 10% of the battery life back. In just over 6 hours last night, it recharged 80%. So that's a major plus point in my book, so thank you for your efforts. :good:
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I'm not sure you can fix this by just disabling background processes. Sony's Kitkat release is slower at its core than 4.3 and that can be seen and quantified in an Antutu benchmark. Give it your best shot but your best bet is to downgrade to 4.3.
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I'm not sure you can fix this by just disabling background processes. Sony's Kitkat release is slower at its core than 4.3 and that can be seen and quantified in an Antutu benchmark. Give it your best shot but your best bet is to downgrade to 4.3.
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You're right, I disabled loads of stuff last night, and the problem frustratingly remains.
I'd ideally downgrade to 4.2, because I think 4.3 is where Sony removed the screenshot option (before cunningly adding it back in 4.4 as a "new feature"), isn't it? I use that a lot, because my eyes aren't that good, and when you hit a website that blocks pinch-zooming, or you get an app that has text that is too small, like Google Earth, I frequently need to capture the screen and zoom in.
Of course, the problem with this solution is that downgrading to a specific rom version, for a specific version of the tablet, in a specific territory, is not that simple. I'll have to spend some time collecting the required files and instructions, then wait for a good day (mentally), to give it a go.
http://androidandme.com/2015/07/new...-3-getting-performance-update-in-coming-days/
Nice. Hope it's a new update and not the one that some people have gotten.
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Sweet!!! Thanks for the news. I wonder what updates will be made to the camera.
Giu didn't mention a source or anything. Just "that we received word" so I am still a little cynical at this point.
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2nd story about update
More info:
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=16092
http://www.talkandroid.com/255569-alcatel-onetouch-idol-3-update-rolling-out-over-the-next-few-days/
Multiple sources makes it seem more legit to me.
this is great news well its not what we expected to be 5.1 update but its something im glad alcatel has actually listened to us especially through that Email that was sent last month hopefully in mind they should release the source code soon or someone to capture the OTA and extract it
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this is great news well its not what we expected to be 5.1 update but its something im glad alcatel has actually listened to us especially through that Email that was sent last month hopefully in mind they should release the source code soon or someone to capture the OTA and extract it
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As mentioned in the root or update thread, the OTA updates contain only patches to the binary code and not full source. It'll have to come from Alcatel.
well they sure are taking their sweet time pushing it out, its not hitting mine yet.
how many possible users could they be going out to afterall? its not like this phone went mainstream...
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well they sure are taking their sweet time pushing it out, its not hitting mine yet.
how many possible users could they be going out to afterall? its not like this phone went mainstream...
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It's slowly making its way mainstream. It should release this week. I hope it's not one of those updates that break something when trying to do good.
Already had the update last week and the performance is much better now!
Looks like an update is rolling out right now, dated today the 13th....still 5.0.2 unfortunately
Yup - installing right now. Still 5.0.2 ..
Installing right now
After the update try to clear all all opening apps, you will mention that it's without any lag or stutter
usmcnyc said:
Looks like an update is rolling out right now, dated today the 13th....still 5.0.2 unfortunately
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Yup - installing right now. Still 5.0.2 ..
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Borghi said:
Installing right now
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what version of firmware? 5.0.2-01003?
Thk!!
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After the update try to clear all all opening apps, you will mention that it's without any lag or stutter
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I am not sure if it is just me - but at least this part is NOT fixed. clearing open apps still has the same stutter that it had before. I restored the animation scale back to 1x and that has not changed anything. Maybe that is how it is supposed to be.
The app launching appears to have improved *slightly* . Whether double tap is more reliable remains to be seen. The update did not reset my launcher setting i.e. it did not revert to the stock launcher .
Overall - so far , I am not seeing anything worth getting too excited about - Not so far at least.
BTW - just to confirm - I now have Android version = 5.0.2 Kernel version = 3.10.49 Build number = 7SQR-UER0
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I am not sure if it is just me - but at least this part is NOT fixed. clearing open apps still has the same stutter that it had before. I restored the animation scale back to 1x and that has not changed anything. Maybe that is how it is supposed to be.
The app launching appears to have improved *slightly* . Whether double tap is more reliable remains to be seen. The update did not reset my launcher setting i.e. it did not revert to the stock launcher .
Overall - so far , I am not seeing anything worth getting too excited about - Not so far at least.
BTW - just to confirm - I now have Android version = 5.0.2 Kernel version = 3.10.49 Build number = 7SQR-UER0
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Same here, not too much difference noted with this update. Anyone know if Alcatel includes a changelog someplace with these updates?
I feel differently. This update, so far, is great. The lag I had previously is nearly gone and installing apps is much much faster. DTTW has worked everytime (only tried about 7-8 times so far) unlike previously when it hardly ever worked. I don't notice anything different on the camera but I've only played with it for a short period. I've not used this phone as a daily driver since I got it in May because of the user experience, it just lagged and I hate lag - especially compared to my LG G2. Today however, I put my sim card in and will give it a true test, being the daily driver.
I was going to return it initially but held onto it waiting for an update and glad I did. I simply couldn't understand why this phone was not at least as fast (or faster) than my LG G Pro Or HTC One M7 since both of them are running the Snapdragon 600 (vs 615) and slower GPU. Plus both are also running pretty heavy skins yet both were way faster/smoother than the Idol 3. It had to be software and optimization which seems to be what this update addresses. The screen and speakers on this phone are to die for and I'm glad it's now able to be used effectively. I may think differently in a day or so after a real world test but for now I'm excited about this little guy.
I just got the update this morning, and my initial reaction is pretty good. The phone just feels snappier overall. The notification shade seems to come down very smooth all the time now. Previously, when the keyboard was open, the notification shade would drop a lot of frames when you pulled it down. The camera seems to be doing a better job of getting the correct point of focus too. Also, double tap to wake actually works now! This is huge for me because it only worked about once out of ten tries for me before. I'm happy.
Edit: I'm also seeing about 1.5GB of extra free storage. I wonder if the phone wasn't properly moving apps to the sd card before. I have about 12 games installed, and I have them all moved to the sd card.
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Looks like you guys had the update we got last week in europe. It runs much better , cleaning apps doesn't lag anymore and everything runs smoother.
For the people still having problems can you confirm you're in 5.0.2-010 03 ?
Open Hicare and click on update, apply and go to settings and open updater.
To downgrade: Install HiSuite in Pc. Downgrade through pc.
Nice someone have any ideea when this will come for FRD-L09 too ?
Sheldd said:
Nice someone have any ideea when this will come for FRD-L09 too ?
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February
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shook187 said:
February
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Have u checked with Huawei firmware finder ?
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Honor said so, I've seen in an article on GSMarena
dinoypeter said:
Open Hicare and click on update, apply and go to settings and open updater.
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Thanks for the tip. I just upgraded it yesterday :
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Thanks for the tip. I just upgraded it yesterday :
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How it's treating you?!
CronaMell said:
How it's treating you?!
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Quite well for the moment, I am pretty happy with it, I didn't have any big issue yet
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Quite well for the moment, I am pretty happy with it, I didn't have any big issue yet
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My first observations after upgrade:
- system is smooth and fast, but the fact is that it was such before upgrade as well;
- smart battery saving leave you less options as before; you can't use it with screen off time adjustment any more; my impression is that with no battery saving you achieve less uptime than before and with smart battery the same as before but with more restrictions;
- overall color specter moved toward blue and a lot of white; light color letters on white background are sometimes difficult to read;
- safetynet (indicator of secure applications like Android Pay and Pokemon) fails wit the last upgrade; it passed with MM and first N upgrade 336;
- still no trace of wifi calling.
Camera is subject to more deep and demanding analyze which may follow latter.
Overall I'll be glad to get safetynet back and wifi calling sometimes soon.
piskr said:
My first observations after upgrade:
- system is smooth and fast, but the fact is that it was such before upgrade as well;
- smart battery saving leave you less options as before; you can't use it with screen off time adjustment any more; my impression is that with no battery saving you achieve less uptime than before and with smart battery the same as before but with more restrictions;
- overall color specter moved toward blue and a lot of white; light color letters on white background are sometimes difficult to read;
- safetynet (indicator of secure applications like Android Pay and Pokemon) fails wit the last upgrade; it passed with MM and first N upgrade 336;
- still no trace of wifi calling.
Camera is subject to more deep and demanding analyze which may follow latter.
Overall I'll be glad to get safetynet back and wifi calling sometimes soon.
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That's comprehensive, thanks
Perfect, bit I think I have no look, so for my al10 there is any another way to get thi b356 update?
Iaa85 from Brazil with Honor 8
iaa85 said:
Perfect, bit I think I have no look, so for my al10 there is any another way to get thi b356 update?
Iaa85 from Brazil with Honor 8
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other guy had al10, he did what i did, u have to be on the latest software, and then register on hicare
I also upgraded to 5.0 and then I did a factory reset to set all from the beginning...It seems to me that battery runs out a bit faster (first thoughts) and I agree with all written before this post....
I fell in love with new quick tools panel quickly, so dont feel about downgrading so far))
I will wait till our russian coleagues make up a clean EMUI 5.0 (without bloat and perhaps with some customizations) as they did for 4.1 (author: greatslon at 4pda)
Or maybe our honor devs will give us some cure in new builds...
Got a new upgrade yesterday, the version B368.
This time the change log is in Chinese so I have no idea what it is about. At least it still works fine, no complain so far
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Got a new upgrade yesterday, the version B368.
This time the change log is in Chinese so I have no idea what it is about. At least it still works fine, no complain so far
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It says something like:
This update optimizes the system and stability and makes the phone run more smooth. It repairs Taobao app text dialog box on order to prevent blocking input method. It also repairs the problem that call recording can’t add the specific contact. Further, the problems that outgoing call can’t be placed and phone can’t be connected to WIFI are fixed as well. Removed error that Talkback can’t be used. Fixed HuaweiShare autolaunch after WIFI download rate is reduced. Fixed issues with 123006?? and banking (shopping??) apps like Taobao. Power consumption is optimized in order to extend battery life. Screen brightness parameters optimization.
The translate is result of mutual efforts of me and GoogleTranslate and it is far from perfect.
My first impressions after update:
The system is stable and ready for the transition from beta to the production version. It is responsive, smooth and fast. No substantial deficiencies could be detected. There are still some glitches that should be improved though:
1. In order to make the outlook white as a snow (combined with sea blue) the producer made some application text hard to read (white on the bright)
2. Using the power saving mode gives you insane 6 hours of SOT. But the mode fixes screen on when passive to 30 secs time and it can't be adjusted. What could be really annoying in some situations. I would have easily sacrificed 1 hour of SOT if I had option to turn off the screen manually.
3. SafetyNet (connected with payment and other safety apps) fails after every upgrade. Thankfully so far I had it back in a few days and I hope that it will happen this time too. I think that the failure is connected to beta status of the upgrade: Google might consider upgrade as a test version of the system (safe applications don't work on the rooted phone, custom recovery, unlocked bootloader or test versions of the system). I don't understand the mechanism on which the functionality suddenly returns: is it by Huawei's intervention, Google app upgrade or simply recognizing the upgrade as real, not test version.
Finally, there is an improved custom ROM for AL10 and AL00 (HRT-Kangvip) if someone with rooted phone wanna try: http://club.huawei.com/thread-11821416-1-1.html (use GoogleTranslate).
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I also upgraded to 5.0 and then I did a factory reset to set all from the beginning...It seems to me that battery runs out a bit faster (first thoughts) and I agree with all written before this post....
I fell in love with new quick tools panel quickly, so dont feel about downgrading so far))
I will wait till our russian coleagues make up a clean EMUI 5.0 (without bloat and perhaps with some customizations) as they did for 4.1 (author: greatslon at 4pda)
Or maybe our honor devs will give us some cure in new builds...
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It will come shortly. Maybe this month.
supamike said:
Got a new upgrade yesterday, the version B368.
This time the change log is in Chinese so I have no idea what it is about. At least it still works fine, no complain so far
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next time use google translate app to translate text in pictures. battery is better on this update as well as performance. i aslo noticed that the camera takes better photos in nougat as compared to 6.0
supamike said:
Got a new upgrade yesterday, the version B368.
This time the change log is in Chinese so I have no idea what it is about. At least it still works fine, no complain so far
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Where r u based mate.
I have read that were getting out update sooner rather than later
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Where r u based mate.
I have read that were getting out update sooner rather than later
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I am in China, I already got 3 updates since I bought it (3 weeks ago).
That's why I can't really compare with marshmallow as I didn't use it much.
I just found out they still didn't fix the bug when we use the fingerprint to slide photos in the gallery. It works but it's not as smooth as before.
The update for the Android 7.0 Nougat, Customized AU 32.3.A.0.372 - has been pulled from the update server and is no longer available.
Would be rather interested in the reason why is has been pulled again...
The rumors say mainly because of the audio bug with low speaker volume
Sony have acknowledged it:
“We were made aware of reports from some users experiencing inconsistencies related to audio playback via third-party apps and SD card encrypted data read performance, after upgrading to Android 7.0, Nougat. We’ve identified the root cause and are aiming to provide corrective firmware and re-commence the rollout as soon as possible.”
This is good news and hopefully we will get stable, much less buggy releases after a while. I am willing to wait even a whole month just to make sure the release is stable and well-tested, that it has resolved issues with heat emissions, general SoT usage and memory load, and battery optimization.
It's better to wait and get something decent rather than to rush and get the buggy builds. I advise against installing the non-approved versions, you will likely get audio issues, maybe even corrupt your SD card contents.
brokich said:
Sony have acknowledged it:
“We were made aware of reports from some users experiencing inconsistencies related to audio playback via third-party apps and SD card encrypted data read performance, after upgrading to Android 7.0, Nougat. We’ve identified the root cause and are aiming to provide corrective firmware and re-commence the rollout as soon as possible.”
This is good news and hopefully we will get stable, much less buggy releases after a while. I am willing to wait even a whole month just to make sure the release is stable and well-tested, that it has resolved issues with heat emissions, general SoT usage and memory load, and battery optimization.
It's better to wait and get something decent rather than to rush and get the buggy builds. I advise against installing the non-approved versions, you will likely get audio issues, maybe even corrupt your SD card contents.
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Just played music on Spotify with the loudspeakers and the volume is seriously so low. I don't know if it's just me, but the device seems to be running a little hotter than usual. But anyways, hoping for a better update!
iArvee said:
Just played music on Spotify with the loudspeakers and the volume is seriously so low. I don't know if it's just me, but the device seems to be running a little hotter than usual. But anyways, hoping for a better update!
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I guess I'm extremely lucky. No problems with the speakers or heat. It just runs smooth as hell! Maybe this update will address other bugs that w e haven't picked up on yet.
I'm using Customized SA. experiencing speakers audio bug. first 5 secs the audio is good . after that volume goes very low. seriously i don't know what developers were doing during audio testing
Hey,
Can anyone download the australian version even if my phone is from USA?
kornjeep said:
Hey,
Can anyone download the australian version even if my phone is from USA?
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Yep. It'll still work.
It would be really interesting to get official status information from Sony about the Nougat bugs and the progress of fixing them... More than 3 weeks has passed and still no new update or even proper official word from them.
(I try to keep up with the official Sony channels and 3rd party news sites etc. but I might have missed some information, official or otherwise. Feel free to chime in if you know something.)
Today I got "Android system update is available" notification.
But when I clicked it, it says "System up-do-date", refreshing does not change anything
Even worse - I can't even remove this notification...
I am facing the audio volume bug too. No high temperature or other problems found.
Only the fingerprint scanner is crappy as always. 6/10 tries is a miss...
Also I dislike the new quicksettings tiles... 4 taps instead of 2 in order to enable 4G + mob data.
Also the X over the signal bars when mobile data are disabled is misleading....