Play r800a vs r800at - might have found a difference - Xperia Play General

http://goo.gl/GSW3l
Logically speaking, the a would be the unlockable one, and the at, the AT&T locked-to-kingdom-come-and-then-some one.
Sorry if this was already posted.

R800a will be SIM/Network locked to Rogers and will likely have a Rogers boot screen. Unlocking companies say they can unlock it for use on AT&T though it may need the APN settings configured correctly to use 3G on AT&T.
Also, R800at will probably take forever to be officially released

So we're basically f'd with the bootloader then?

There isn't a variant model number for the off-contract full price option for Rogers (which could have been a wildcard for unlocking) so I guarantee all North American Xperia Plays will be SIM locked to their respective carriers and therefore not eligible for the official bootloader unlock (there may be other ways but I don't know). It makes no sense for them to do otherwise since the carriers are using contracts to subsidize the phone to make more money in the long run. It does make sense for the international model (R800i) to be SIM unlocked in key markets since it covers most of the rest of the world other than North America and that is a much bigger market with many variables.
Somebody will have to ultimately connect to a Rogers Xperia Play R800a model and see if fastboot will run on it since the "at" model won't be available anytime soon. At least not before the CDMA Verizon model which has yet to even be announced. I just wouldn't be surprised if it won't run...
http://unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com/which-phones

I have a AT&T Xperia Play R800a
I tried to contact Engadget to show off some pictures of the AT&T boot and bloatware but they never responded yet to my e-mail.
I traded my iphone 4 16GB + Cash on top and met up with a guy in Fremont CA earlier today and he was willing to take my offer since he was a big Apple Fan. He already owned a Droid X from Verizon and Apple Ipad and had no use for it. At first I thought it was a R800i UK model but after seeing the phone description in the settings I was shocked!
If any you guys want some information about the phone i'll be happy to snap some photos of it.

Warudakumi said:
I tried to contact Engadget to show off some pictures of the AT&T boot and bloatware but they never responded yet to my e-mail.
I traded my iphone 4 16GB + Cash on top and met up with a guy in Fremont CA earlier today and he was willing to take my offer since he was a big Apple Fan. He already owned a Droid X from Verizon and Apple Ipad and had no use for it. At first I thought it was a R800i UK model but after seeing the phone description in the settings I was shocked!
If any you guys want some information about the phone i'll be happy to snap some photos of it.
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I'm a little confused? So you have a R800a with AT&T boot and bloatware that's not a R800at? Or did I misread that? In any case, I would be interested in seeing what they did to it.
Also, I suspect that it's locked to prevent the install of 3rd party apps. If so, have you been able to use ADB to install apps? I know Sony Ericsson has a program with USB drivers for the X10, but I don't know if it'll work with the Play or not.

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I'm a little confused? So you have a R800a with AT&T boot and bloatware that's not a R800at? Or did I misread that? In any case, I would be interested in seeing what they did to it.
Also, I suspect that it's locked to prevent the install of 3rd party apps. If so, have you been able to use ADB to install apps? I know Sony Ericsson has a program with USB drivers for the X10, but I don't know if it'll work with the Play or not.
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Nope I have an authentic AT&T R800at model. I made another thread with pictures linked to my photobucket account. I don't have enough posts to post pictures directly at the moment. I didn't believe it myself when the guy showed me the phone. There are lots of scammers on craigslist with the iphone etc. where people are buying "dummy phones" and packaging them like they are legit.
He didn't seem to want to tell me where he got it but he was dressed pretty professional so maybe he knows somebody that works with AT&T? I'm just scared to update the software on the phone in fear it might lockup or something. I'll post more pictures later when I get off work.
If there is anything else you wanted to see, please feel free to ask. I'm still new to the android scene but i'm quickly learning. I have a Galaxy Tab and a 3G Vibrant with the awesome FFC mod I learned from this site. I finally joined the darkside and i'm enjoying this phone. If I didn't come up on this find I might be one of those Fanboys anxiously waiting for a Iphone5 with probably barely any new features to justify it being cool anymore.
This is what I'll upload later
More better pictures of the homescreen icons etc.
Phone Properties Screen
More boot pictures

Related

Unlocked X10a

It seems that the majority of X10's in the market seem to be the X10i variant, however I am trying to locate the X10a, so I can use it with AT&T 3G.
I found a few small retailer sites that do say they offer the x10a, but seeing as they aren't exactly the most reputable of online stores, I am a bit hesitant to order.
Has anyone found unlocked X10a's sold directly from SE? Or is my only option to get one from a wireless provider outside the US that supports AT&T 3G bands such as Rogers?
Yup, or from a Canadian/US seller on Ebay, or from a Canadian friend who owes you a big favor.
go to amazon and search "xperia x10a" there is one that is 564.99. it doesnt say which bands are on it, the others that come up with the search all say 900/1700/2100. you might could call the seller or amazon and see if it is the x10a or x10i. they should be able to look at the box and tell you.
cant find anywhere other than that possibility. I bought one off of ebay. most expensive thing i have ever bought on ebay, scared me to death, but everything turned out fine. just look for a reputable seller on ebay with lots of positive feedback, use paypal, hope for the best.
i can say this, i love this phone, also using it on ATT. with the rumors that ATT are forcing nexus one users to use the $30 data plan instead of the $15 ($10 on family plan), i couldnt come up with a better android phone to use on ATT.
i can unlock x10
hi everyone, i can unlock x10 via code. email me at [email protected] and include your contact number.
just wait, X10 is coming to AT&T.
Thanks for the input guys.
I've found a site that sells it for about $614 and free shipping. They accept Paypal payments, so at least I feel a little safer with their buyer protection. I'll let you guys know when/if I receive the correct product.
As for waiting for AT&T to start carrying the X10, that's not an option for me for a few reasons. First, my N97 is on it's way out. It's beginning to seem really sluggish and the slide lock key fell off... Second is that I have the unlimited data plan, and would not like to be forced to downgrade to their 2GB data cap. Lastly, after hearing how AT&T is locking down some aspects of their Android software such as in the HTC Aria, I would rather not let them get their hands on my phone.
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just wait, X10 is coming to AT&T.
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I don't believe it will.
I remember reading this about eight months ago and now with the Samsung Captivate headed there I can't see them bringing in the X10.
k0sun7eash3d said:
Thanks for the input guys.
I've found a site that sells it for about $614 and free shipping. They accept Paypal payments, so at least I feel a little safer with their buyer protection. I'll let you guys know when/if I receive the correct product.
As for waiting for AT&T to start carrying the X10, that's not an option for me for a few reasons. First, my N97 is on it's way out. It's beginning to seem really sluggish and the slide lock key fell off... Second is that I have the unlimited data plan, and would not like to be forced to downgrade to their 2GB data cap. Lastly, after hearing how AT&T is locking down some aspects of their Android software such as in the HTC Aria, I would rather not let them get their hands on my phone.
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Ouch, rogers quoted me 499 plus
Just posting a follow up.
I received my X10 last night, only took about a week, i suspect had i ordered the phone on monday morning instead of night, I would have had it by Friday.
I did receive an X10a, but it was a Rogers branded phone, already sim-unlocked.
If anyone wants the seller information so they can order it for themselves, pm me.
Just curious, but how could you tell it was rogers branded? Was there a rogers startup screen, or rogers apps somewhere, or physical rogers logo on the phone exterior or something? The reason i ask is because i bought mine used on ebay, and when i popped my att sim in and powered up, there was never any hint that it had anything to do with rogers, or any other carrier. I have just always wondered if there was some way to figure out where the phone originated from. I checked th service info or system info or whateverr from the secret menu, but all it said was custom. Anyway, glad you got your hands on one. I got it as my first android phone, came from a nokia n95, and overall have been pleased with it. Certain things i miss, but the goods have definitely outweighed the bads.
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Just curious, but how could you tell it was rogers branded? Was there a rogers startup screen,
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Yup, there is a Rogers screen after the initial Sony Ericsson screen. Also, there are a couple of Rogers apps, the moxier apps.
Most important, whether Rogers or stock, if it is a X10a, it should say so under settings -about phone -model number - x10a.
Oh, it is definitely an x10a, came in a sony ericsson box with x10a on the barcode and everything, and in the device info is listed as an x10a, has the att 3g bands and works fine. I have just been curious since I got it if it originally came from a wireless carrier in another country. When I bought the thing, I thought that the only x10a models that were made were made for rogers, i wasnt aware that they even made a generic, factory unlocked, unbranded version of the x10a.
btw, i believe moxier apps are standard on all xperia x10's, regardless of i or a designation, or carrier branding.
Yeah, the Rogers carrier logo on boot was the dead giveaway for me. Also the fact that I couldn't manually change configure the AT&T apn until I unbranded it.
I am pleasantly surprised by the speed of the X10 though. It puts my hd2 to shame.
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[DISCUSS] Xperia play R800a for sale on 2 websites

When i read the white pages with the correct description, i found 2 websites that sells the xperia play with the US 3G bands
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...-Iy5Cw&usg=AFQjCNGPEmiD1i3HIOJJbaNMpVC8NhI7nw
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...-Iy5Cw&usg=AFQjCNEB_7JRNctbu6epR5XZZ1FGfVSt0w
Does anyone ever purchase from any of this 2 websites? one seems to be in FL and the other in NV...
Looks like the bands the difference
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negrielectronics is showing pre-order
celluloco is showing in stock but i highly doubt that
Check http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBQQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.networkingrus.com%2F&ei=x9avTbaeBsfHrQfimN34CA&usg=AFQjCNEAgAxGKDBPHM4-BuMQd-0Mg_xJmA
The xperia play comes in four versions R800i/a/at/x. If you check the white paper on xperia play from SE you'll see It must be region related?
Regards Dousan...
I'm rather curious about these sellers as well. I've been gnashing my teeth waiting for this phone since rumor broke that Sony was seriously working on it last year (and was hoping for something like it for even longer). Has anyone bought from either of these sellers yet?
I've been seeing a lot of the European R800i model. Unfortunately I'm on AT&T, which will require either the R800a or R800at. Both have the same bands, but I suspect the R800a is the generic North American model for both the US and Canada (Rogers seems to be getting this one), while the R800at is probably going to be some sort of AT&T-centric (read: butchered) version. While it would be nice to save some money through the carrier, at this point I'm more inclined to get an unlocked version at retail price. My guess is that it's going to be around $550-600 off-contract when supplies ramp up.
Also, has anyone heard any more on the R800x (Verizon CDMA) version having a SIM card slot? I saw something about that a few weeks ago and wondered if it was at all functional.
MechaBouncer said:
I'm rather curious about these sellers as well. I've been gnashing my teeth waiting for this phone since rumor broke that Sony was seriously working on it last year (and was hoping for something like it for even longer). Has anyone bought from either of these sellers yet?
I've been seeing a lot of the European R800i model. Unfortunately I'm on AT&T, which will require either the R800a or R800at. Both have the same bands, but I suspect the R800a is the generic North American model for both the US and Canada (Rogers seems to be getting this one), while the R800at is probably going to be some sort of AT&T-centric (read: butchered) version. While it would be nice to save some money through the carrier, at this point I'm more inclined to get an unlocked version at retail price. My guess is that it's going to be around $550-600 off-contract when supplies ramp up.
Also, has anyone heard any more on the R800x (Verizon CDMA) version having a SIM card slot? I saw something about that a few weeks ago and wondered if it was at all functional.
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from the white pages that we saw a couple of days ago (revealing the model name for each version) we can tell that the CDMA version doesnt have GSM slot, otherwise it will be listed there.
Regarding the release for both the verizon and rogers, apparently both are on the 28th, hopefully we will see the unlocked version as well on the next week, and based on the european price, it will be probably $600 and up...
I cant wait any longer either!! i was even thinking to get the R800i version is the phone is not released this week, since the 3g on tmobile sucks anyways...
tanquef said:
from the white pages that we saw a couple of days ago (revealing the model name for each version) we can tell that the CDMA version doesnt have GSM slot, otherwise it will be listed there.
Regarding the release for both the verizon and rogers, apparently both are on the 28th, hopefully we will see the unlocked version as well on the next week, and based on the european price, it will be probably $600 and up...
I cant wait any longer either!! i was even thinking to get the R800i version is the phone is not released this week, since the 3g on tmobile sucks anyways...
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Well according to some articles I saw around the beginning of the month, the FCC tear-down of the CDMA model showed that it physically had a SIM slot. Unfortunately the forum won't let me post the links. One of the links thought it could be a for LTE or allow it to act as a world phone. Since there hasn't been any mention of either, it makes me wonder if it's just there for show?
MechaBouncer said:
Well according to some articles I saw around the beginning of the month, the FCC tear-down of the CDMA model showed that it physically had a SIM slot. Unfortunately the forum won't let me post the links. One of the links thought it could be a for LTE or allow it to act as a world phone. Since there hasn't been any mention of either, it makes me wonder if it's just there for show?
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Yes, i read that post as well, but still, the white pages should provide a full description of the product and doesnt mention a thing about a sim card on the R800x version, we will have to wait and see i guess...
After spending a few minutes chatting with Celluloco guys, i will not trusth them at all. They charge florida taxes, but they dont have a phisical address in FL, when i ask for one, they told me that the address is only for Wholesale accounts, so i ask to open one account, since i'm an importer/exporter and could be usefull. But no, they deny it because they are full, and they are not opening any accounts.
So i ask them the real company name, since they charge FL taxes, they must have a registered company in the FL Bizz Directory, but no, they deny again telling that their company is based on Cayman Islands ?!?!
So long story short... dont buy to this guys, not even a cell charger, its a plain scam, even on facebook (they have a facebook account) there are people claiming that after a week of paying a cell phone, he cant reach a single person to know the status of their order.
I found them on the FL Bizz, and they are a inactive company... what a scam!!
http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/corde...&names_comp_name=CELLULOCO&names_filing_type=

Canadian Xperia Play on AT&T

Anybody planning on buying the off contract Rogers version of the Xperia Play (R800a) to use on AT&T? The big release day is tomorrow...
Im wondering about this too. Ive been wanting a xperia play since before it was announced. Problem is, Im with Bell. Just want to be sure I can unlock it and use it with my current carrier instead of Rogers.
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I emailed Mobileincanada.com if they could do it and they replied yes. I was referred to them by a fairly knowledgeable guy on Howard Forums who used them in the past. They will purportedly refund your unlock if it doesn't work...
I would go buy one and try but I don't live in Canada, heh. The nearest Rogers store is over 6 hours away from me and no guarantee they will have stock when I get there.
http://www.mobileincanada.com/How-To-Unlock-Your-Cellphone
Looks like im gonna have to do a little recon mission. I think they have a Xperia play on display in my mall. Ill have to see if I can get the IMEI and check that website to be sure.
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anyone know any shops that sells this phone and ships to US? as far as i know, future shop nor best buy ca does not ship to US.
Also noticed this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLkEZJm0aBQ&feature=channel_video_title
A tutorial on how to unlock your Xperia Play phone. Rogers Xperia Play is amongst the list of phones in the descriptions. So I'm guessing that it can be unlocked, unless cellunlocker.net is a scam {highly doubt it based on brief research}
Guys I have a question :
I won a free xperia play from sony ericsson canada and I can't connect it to fastboot. I tried holding search then plug in usb but no blue light. I tried back and i get green light but the drivers dont work. I just wanna see if I unlock the bootloader
What model number is your Xperia Play? R800a? I believe all Rogers models (R800a) are SIM/Network locked, which can't use the official bootloader according to Sony's docs.
http://unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com/which-phones
People have explained a way to get root even with a locked bootloader in the forums though.
I too am looking for an outlet to buy a Canadian Play from. I assume at this point all 'official' distributors of the phone can't export it outside the country since it is SIM locked to Rogers.
TheChancellor... please post your results!
axiomjunglist said:
What model number is your Xperia Play? R800a? I believe all Rogers models (R800a) are SIM/Network locked, which can't use the official bootloader according to Sony's docs.
http://unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com/which-phones
People have explained a way to get root even with a locked bootloader in the forums though.
I too am looking for an outlet to buy a Canadian Play from. I assume at this point all 'official' distributors of the phone can't export it outside the country since it is SIM locked to Rogers.
TheChancellor... please post your results!
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WOW! Even tho I won it from sony ericsson it's still rogers branded! Good thing im with rogers
Just bought it from ebay, the white version as i wanted, and i save the trip (FL to Canada would take a bit longer than 6 hours lol)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...2y%2FWfoTofmlrs05zRVcl1vxBU%3D#ht_5245wt_1129
Lol, damnit... I was totally looking at that last night too. You snooze, you lose.
Please post your results of bootloader unlocking/root access when you get it will you?
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Lol, damnit... I was totally looking at that last night too. You snooze, you lose.
Please post your results of bootloader unlocking/root access when you get it will you?
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Sure, i will do, but it will be after May 13th, because i'm out of town till that day
Planning on getting this phone.
A co-worker is in Canada this week and is flying back to the US in a few hours. I asked him to pick up an Xperia Play for me. He went to Best Buy, and they wouldn't sell him one without a contract. He is gonna go to a Rogers store on the way to the airport and try to get one.
The first thing I will need to do if/when I get it is to Sim Unlock it. I have been looking for a site to do it that is less shady and not that expensive.
I will probably go with the site mentioned above unless someone suggests something better in the next few hours.
Afterwards I will reply here with the results.
If any one else has any success or failure getting their Xperia Play Sim Unlocked let us know.
I used this site a few time: mobileincanada. Very fast (less than 1 hour normally). Got my Rogers Xperia play unlocked today and now I use it with Telus, so should work with any network (assuming it's the right frequency)
Been refreshing eBay all day but nothing coming up. Sad. I really want one. Judging by the number of hits this post is getting so does everyone else, lol.
That sucks reports are coming in that Best Buy won't sell without a contract. I called them just last week to confirm they could sell one contract free and they said they could. Must be totally hit and miss right now. No way in hell I'm driving 6 hours across the border just to get the run around...
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Been refreshing eBay all day but nothing coming up. Sad. I really want one. Judging by the number of hits this post is getting so does everyone else, lol.
That sucks reports are coming in that Best Buy won't sell without a contract. I called them just last week to confirm they could sell one contract free and they said they could. Must be totally hit and miss right now. No way in hell I'm driving 6 hours across the border just to get the run around...
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Go to sony style canada, they will sell you one contract free but!!! still locked(shouldnt be a problem tho). Also heard that walmart is gonna sell them.
here you have another one on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/SONY-ERICSSON-X...ell_Phones&hash=item19c515efeb#ht_2161wt_1129
axiomjunglist said:
That sucks reports are coming in that Best Buy won't sell without a contract. I called them just last week to confirm they could sell one contract free and they said they could. Must be totally hit and miss right now. No way in hell I'm driving 6 hours across the border just to get the run around...
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BestBuy.ca has the non-contract xperia play online. just do a buy online and pick-up in store, they cant make u sign up if u already have bought it at 550.
doesnt help me though i dont want to drive 11 hours to get the phone, im still trying to find it online non ebay.
emann56 said:
Go to sony style canada, they will sell you one contract free but!!! still locked(shouldnt be a problem tho). Also heard that walmart is gonna sell them.
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the sonly style ca sight doesnt sell cell phones from what i can tell.
Lol, no way I'm paying close to a grand with shipping for that. Seller has lost his marbles. But hey someone is probably more desperate than I am.
I do have a lead I'm following... We'll see how it goes.
I'll have to also check and see if SonyStyle Canada will ship to the US. Betting probably not though.
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Lol, no way I'm paying close to a grand with shipping for that. Seller has lost his marbles. But hey someone is probably more desperate than I am.
I do have a lead I'm following... We'll see how it goes.
I'll have to also check and see if SonyStyle Canada will ship to the US. Betting probably not though.
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as far as i know, sonystyle doesnt sell phone over their site, and they only ship to their respective region

SIM unlock: iPhone vs. SG4 - and the winner is...

...iPhone by the 1000 miles.
Well, before the fan boys start throwing feces at me, here is the story.
I know that it is different hardware and OS and all that, but the problem is not in this.
The problem is the way Apple and Samsung approach the demands from the carriers to lock down their devices and how is the unlocking process handled.
So to SIM unlock the iPhone you call Sprint Customer Service (SCC) and after usual crap about 90 days they say, ok we submitted the request to unlock to Apple you should receive an e-mail shortly. In about 30 minutes the e-mail comes where it instructs you to backup-factory-reset-restore your iPhone. You do that, and that's it. It is unlocked for _ALL_ GSM carriers, foreign and domestic alike.
It is that simple.
Now to SIM unlock the SG4 you call SCC and after usual crap about 90 days you are told that your phone is unlocked, and it will magically work when you abroad but there is absolutely no way for you to see if it works with a foreign SIM while you are in the US. Moreover there is absolutely no way you can use it with any of the US GSM carriers. Most likely when you finally get abroad it will still not work.
Pain and disappointment.
So what happened here?
The answer is simple, Apple gives a middle finger to all carriers who ask it to give them control over the device. Have you seen any bloatware from Sprint, Verizon, ATT or TMO on the iPhone? No!
The Samsung, on the other hand, bands over backwards for carriers and it turns everything in to the theater of the absurd.
One would think: "...well if Sprint made Samsung to lock down the device in a certain way they must be able to ask Samsung to do the SIM unlock"; nop, no such luck, the SCC will tell you that Samsung has nothing to do with this and at Samsung they will tell you to go to your carrier.
Ok, fine, then apparently if this is the OS modification made by Sprint, one would try to reason: "...the SCC must have some internal tool to unlock the device and check that it is unlocked"; well this is also not the case.
What Sprint is obviously happy about is that they bravely disallowed you to use local GSM carriers.
So it is an interesting situation, actually Samsung and Sprint are equally to be blamed for our pain with SIM unlock and non will take a blame.
I'm pretty sure the ATT and TMO customers just laughing at us right about now the SG4 on their networks can be unlocked with a simple app from the market or even with some service menu.
There was a guy from SCC here, or so he claimed, it would be nice if he could comment on this, and given something more of an answer than just: "...well those are different devices and different OS". Who's really doing the unlocking? Is it Sprint is it Samsung? Why are there no tools to check this on the phone? Why the phone says "Invalid SIM" when it was "unlocked" while it should just refuse to connect to ATT and TMO while here in the US?
Well, I'm pretty sure those are the questions that we never get answers to...
Yea, I agree that it sucks the way things are right now and I wish it wasn't so. Hopefully, Samsung will continuebto be so successful that in the next round (S5), they too can give the middle finger to the carriers and end the unlocking lunacy.
Please explain to me how you got your iphone unlocked for domestic use. I got my old one unlocked by sprint did everything and still had to buy a rsim to use it in the states.
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Yea, I agree that it sucks the way things are right now and I wish it wasn't so. Hopefully, Samsung will continuebto be so successful that in the next round (S5), they too can give the middle finger to the carriers and end the unlocking lunacy.
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Yeah, I hope so too. For my Samsung Galaxy Discover (s730m) that I got because my Samsung Galaxy Q ( T589r ) has a cracked screen , I tried phoning Telus & Fido to get it unlocked..neither of them would do anything..if Samsung were to do this so that I could just ask Samsung, that'd be very great, and I'd be able to use my new phone. :/
I'll be nice so I won't call troll. TL;DR. If your intention was to run a phone on gsm, why would you buy a CDMA phone? As for bringing up the subject of why a iPhone is better in an android forum, what the hell are you doing here?! We don't care if you think iPhone is better! Go elsewhere and post to people that actually agree with your point of view. Sorry for being so blunt, I've had a few... Still, the few months I had an iPhone, before I had sprint buy it back because I hated the apple experience, I didn't go on apple forums and spout how android was so much better. I may have honestly shared my experience but I didn't do it in a way that rubbed smugness in other people's face. I'm sorry that I'm coming across like I'm flaming you but, in all reasonableness, this isn't the place to do it.
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I'll be nice so I won't call troll. TL;DR. If your intention was to run a phone on gsm, why would you buy a CDMA phone? As for bringing up the subject of why a iPhone is better in an android forum, what the hell are you doing here?! We don't care if you think iPhone is better! Go elsewhere and post to people that actually agree with your point of view. Sorry for being so blunt, I've had a few... Still, the few months I had an iPhone, before I had sprint buy it back because I hated the apple experience, I didn't go on apple forums and spout how android was so much better. I may have honestly shared my experience but I didn't do it in a way that rubbed smugness in other people's face. I'm sorry that I'm coming across like I'm flaming you but, in all reasonableness, this isn't the place to do it.
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Prob because he has nothing better to do other than play angry birds on that lil 4 inch screen, isn't that all its capable of?
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The title was intentionally provocative, because I'm really pissed with the way things going with sg4 sprint sim unlocking process. I'm not an iPhone user though, I have and use sg4, but I need to be able to use it on my trips overseas, this is why I bought it in the first place, because it is a world phone, or at least it is advertised as such. This was my attempt to analyze why this whole sim unlocking for sg4 is a outright failure.
obender said:
The title was intentionally provocative, because I'm really pissed with the way things going with sg4 sprint sim unlocking process. I'm not an iPhone user though, I have and use sg4, but I need to be able to use it on my trips overseas, this is why I bought it in the first place, because it is a world phone, or at least it is advertised as such. This was my attempt to analyze why this whole sim unlocking for sg4 is a outright failure.
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Two things then...
If you need it for overseas trips then what's all the hoopla about? Just get it unlocked by Sprint. Yes, at the beginning they had issues with the unlock because it is a brand new process they've never used before (and yes, unfortunately very unprepared for). But now supposedly it's fixed so chill.
It is not true that Sprint's iPhone unlocking process makes it usable on US GSM carriers.
Anyway, I am not sure why you claim that "the iPhone beats the S4 by a 1000 miles". Sprint gives you a method to unlock both phones for international use so that you don't have pay their exorbitant intl roaming rates. That seems fair to me and I don't see what obligation they (or even Samsung) have towards you as a Sprint subscriber beyond that. If you want a device that will work on one of Sprint's domestic competitors, go buy an unlock phone, or one from one of those carriers.
myphone12345 said:
It is not true that Sprint's iPhone unlocking process makes it usable on US GSM carriers.
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You obviously don't know the subject that well, it is true, I've unlocked my wife's iPhone and it works roams to ATT and TMO now with a _foreign_ SIM inserted, but you right, what I care is the outside US use and this is still an issue unfortunately.
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You obviously don't know the subject that well, it is true, I've unlocked my wife's iPhone and it works roams to ATT and TMO now with a _foreign_ SIM inserted, but you right, what I care is the outside US use and this is still an issue unfortunately.
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I'm in the same boat.
When I get back to the states I will be perma-roaming 24/7 in order to get the service termination letter.
ehaalandtluk said:
I'm in the same boat.
When I get back to the states I will be perma-roaming 24/7 in order to get the service termination letter.
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Are you saying that u unlocked with sprint and traveled overseas to only find your are screwed and can't use your sg4?
That's why I upgraded to be able to use when go to home country. Might look into htc.
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galexandr said:
Are you saying that u unlocked with sprint and traveled overseas to only find your are screwed and can't use your sg4?
That's why I upgraded to be able to use when go to home country. Might look into htc.
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Yes, precisely.
Nah, I don't want to buy another HTC phone after what they did with the EVO 3D. Samsung has a great phone, I just don't like sprint at all.

For those wondering if the N6 will work on Verizon....

I just spoke with an awesome and knowledgeable rep from Google over the phone. He told me without a doubt that the N6 OUT OF THE BOX will work on Verizon. There will NOT be a special model made for Verizon and that there is TWO Models, A US & International Model THAT'S IT. He said anyone who buys from the Play Store can simply pop in their SIM and the phone will do the rest. He also stated if you need more confirmation, Just visit http://www.google.com/nexus/6/ and scroll the the bottom right and there you will see Verizon Wireless.
Some of us already knew this including myself, But i realize some of you are nervous about spending all your money just for the phone not to work. You are good to go!
J.Guido85 said:
I just spoke with an awesome and knowledgeable rep from Google over the phone. He told me without a doubt that the N6 OUT OF THE BOX will work on Verizon. There will NOT be a special model made for Verizon and that there is TWO Models, A US & International Model THAT'S IT. He said anyone who buys from the Play Store can simply pop in their SIM and the phone will do the rest. He also stated if you need more confirmation, Just visit http://www.google.com/nexus/6/ and scroll the the bottom right and there you will see Verizon Wireless.
Some of us already knew this including myself, But i realize some of you are nervous about spending all your money just for the phone not to work. You are good to go!
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Im one of the many americans who live nearly paycheck to paycheck and cant afford to pay 649 for a phone off contract, sure id love to just not feasible in my current situation. 199 on contract is perfect for me because i can sell my galaxy s4 for around that and not have to pay any "out of pocket" i know in the end im paying more but this is just easier for me, than dropping 649 all at once. With that being said im gonna start saving for it and if verzion decides to delay that long i will purchase from google.
seems like tmobile is the only carrier i can see offering this on the home screen of their site.
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/10/31/nexus-6-working-on-verizon-out-of-the-box/
or there is this...
This does not answer the question that MOST people need answered....... We don't care if the play store version will work on Verizon......most people aren't buying the play store version outright.... We need to know if the Verizon version will be locked down..... Just because it's the same hardware doesn't mean that Verizon doesn't get Motorola to flash their own version of firmware that locks out the ability to unlock the bootloader!
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Im one of the many americans who live nearly paycheck to paycheck and cant afford to pay 649 for a phone off contract, sure id love to just not feasible in my current situation. 199 on contract is perfect for me because i can sell my galaxy s4 for around that and not have to pay any "out of pocket" i know in the end im paying more but this is just easier for me, than dropping 649 all at once. With that being said im gonna start saving for it and if verzion decides to delay that long i will purchase from google.
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You're actually saving money by buying a phone on contract if you are going to use it on Verizon. The only way you save money is paying full retail and then going with a cheaper pre-paid carrier.
Ive pestered verizon online and over the phone and can't get a straight answer if they will ever carry it. Im hoping we hear something offical. From a business standpoint I can see why they would delay it. But thats TERRIBLE for customers but verizon always gets the last word as seen in all previous situations. Im fine to wait until end of Novemeber but any longer I may switch carriers. Might even be some black Friday deals
I think the nexus 6 sold by verizon most likely is a locked phone, which is why verizon store is selling the phone later than other carrier for they need to patched the phone.
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I think the nexus 6 sold by verizon most likely is a locked phone, which is why verizon store is selling the phone later than other carrier for they need to patched the phone.
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I doubt it. Verizon's other high end phones have been GSM unlocked for the most part.
Verizon actually would take the least issue with selling a GSM unlocked device.
All of their LTE devices are sold GSM unlocked.
Because of the compatibility, this appears to be the first device they'll ever truly allow in a "bring your own device" fashion without pre-approving the IMEI in their database. It's good to see, and it makes sense with the push to sign customers up on Edge and the lack of contracts now.
Take it for what it's worth and with a hefty dose of salt, but someone claims to have spoken with their friend who's a network engineer and it sounds dodgy:
http://www.reddit.com/r/nexus6/comments/2lhrm2/detailed_information_on_status_of_the_nexus_6_and/
Sounds like while it may work right out of the box with an existing nano sim, you may be screwed without an existing activated nano sim. Furthermore, it sounds like the delayed release on Verizon (check out the individual page now which only mentions T-Mobile, AT&T, Sprint and US Cellular) may be because Verizon is trying to change the terms of the agreement and try to get software specific to them and they may pull a Nexus One and drop it entirely.
I'm a bit concerned that even if I can get it to work from the day my GPS version arrives, they can at any time decide to block it and I'll have a phone I can't use on Verizon. If they pull that ****, I'll probably just leave for AT&T anyway, but the risk is still there.
Until Verizon officially announces something or is selling the device, those of us with a play store or motorola.com phone we've purchased are taking a risk it may not work or may work for a while and then stop working. And if Verizon decides not to "play ball" then what happens with radio updates? If there are radio bugs, we're screwed because they'd have to go through Verizon for that wouldn't they?
It would make sense if they didn't allow any unlockable bootloader phone on their network. But they are allowing Samsung to sell a dev edition Note 4.
Mayze23 said:
It would make sense if they didn't allow any unlockable bootloader phone on their network. But they are allowing Samsung to sell a dev edition Note 4.
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Like anything Verizon does makes logical sense?
J.Guido85 said:
I just spoke with an awesome and knowledgeable rep from Google over the phone. He told me without a doubt that the N6 OUT OF THE BOX will work on Verizon. There will NOT be a special model made for Verizon and that there is TWO Models, A US & International Model THAT'S IT. He said anyone who buys from the Play Store can simply pop in their SIM and the phone will do the rest. He also stated if you need more confirmation, Just visit http://www.google.com/nexus/6/ and scroll the the bottom right and there you will see Verizon Wireless.
Some of us already knew this including myself, But i realize some of you are nervous about spending all your money just for the phone not to work. You are good to go!
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Just spoke with a Moto Rep and he assured me I'll have no problem activating on VZW. Seems like good news... now... white or blue.
Coop9 said:
Just spoke with a Moto Rep and he assured me I'll have no problem activating on VZW. Seems like good news... now... white or blue.
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Regarding the earlier point about whether Verizon will even carry the Nexus 6, I spent some time today at a local Verizon store looking at what my choices might be (like the Droid Turbo) if the Nexus 6 doesn't appear and asked specifically to the availability/timing of the Nexus 6 at Verizon. The manager wasn't aware of any date but did indicate they might not even carry it if the phone couldn't pass the Verizon testing and approval process. Not a answer that gives a great deal of hope but at least I didn't get the entire denial of any knowledge of status.
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If vzw pulls a nexus one to htc incredible or black list imes why don't people organize and protest the fcc. Vzw is a carrier. We should have any device on their network as long as it's not harmful and they must prove harm case by case.
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You would think someone would be in some deep **** if a bunch of us buy it for Verizon and then can't use it, especially when it says Verizon right on the Google play page and numerous of Google and Motorola employees confirming it works. I know were all tense about this but I really believe were all worrying to much. I know Verizons history as much as anyone so can't blame u but I say were gonna be alright.
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You would think someone would be in some deep **** if a bunch of us buy it for Verizon and then can't use it, especially when it says Verizon right on the Google play page and numerous of Google and Motorola employees confirming it works. I know were all tense about this but I really believe were all worrying to much. I know Verizons history as much as anyone so can't blame u but I say were gonna be alright.
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There's nothing on Google Play store saying it works on Verizon BTW... Not sure where you saw that... Unfortunately VZW can carry or not carry any phone they want.
bossei said:
There's nothing on Google Play store saying it works on Verizon BTW... Not sure where you saw that... Unfortunately VZW can carry or not carry any phone they want.
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It is on the specs page as well as the device page (their logo) and was also mentioned on their blog or whatever. If it's all just to say it's /could/ work, then Google should honor returns well past the 14-day period because it sure as hell is misleading as hell.
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It is on the specs page as well as the device page (their logo) and was also mentioned on their blog or whatever. If it's all just to say it's /could/ work, then Google should honor returns well past the 14-day period because it sure as hell is misleading as hell.
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Interesting; I don't see any of that here.

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