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Tmo unlimited data plan?

So i have unlimited plan with tmo and i used 6.05gb of data now my web is slow as hell.i got a msg saying they reduced my data speed because i used over 5gb of data.so i guess our unlimited data planes arent so unlimited.
Anyone else have this prob? Any solutions?
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You've been throttled my friend. Its still technically "unlimited" but at a lower speed. Its in the fine print unfortunately ...they fail to tell us that when signing up...
There's a rumor there's a fix to it...
Put www.internet2.com in the apn settings...I haven't tried it because I barely hit 4gb/month. Give it a whirl.
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Bamdroid said:
You've been throttled my friend. Its still technically "unlimited" but at a lower speed. Its in the fine print unfortunately ...they fail to tell us that when signing up...
There's a rumor there's a fix to it...
Put www.internet2.com in the apn settings...I haven't tried it because I barely hit 4gb/month. Give it a whirl.
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I was recently throttled.. hmm this is good info thanks what exactly do I do?

G1-evolve said:
I was recently throttled.. hmm this is good info thanks what exactly do I do?
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wait till your new billing cycle rolls around and stop using so much data.
I think something is jacked with the data collection service. I went from 6.99GB of data on one day, and by the next morning they said i used 2.5GB of data via my phone in one 12hr period. And no i wasn't tethering.

You are correct in the fact that they do not outright tell you this, however, if you read the data usage contract they give you, they state it there. Fair Usage Policy. They never shut it off, so technically it's unlimited, but 5GB throttle down close to dial-up/Edge speeds is what you are going to get until your next billing cycle.

Bamdroid said:
You've been throttled my friend. Its still technically "unlimited" but at a lower speed. Its in the fine print unfortunately ...they fail to tell us that when signing up...
There's a rumor there's a fix to it...
Put www.internet2.com in the apn settings...I haven't tried it because I barely hit 4gb/month. Give it a whirl.
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Been doing this fix for some time now and it does actually WORKS! just change apn everytime i go over 5 gb.
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^can you tell me the steps how u do it? thanks

gejenn said:
Been doing this fix for some time now and it does actually WORKS! just change apn everytime i go over 5 gb.
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Hm... when was the last time you went over 5 gb? It was changed on Jan 20th of this year, if I'm not mistaken.

th3boi said:
So i have unlimited plan with tmo and i used 6.05gb of data now my web is slow as hell.i got a msg saying they reduced my data speed because i used over 5gb of data.so i guess our unlimited data planes arent so unlimited.
Anyone else have this prob? Any solutions?
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from what speed were you throttled down to what speed?

Yah throttled is a bltch...... My billing cycle usually is on the 23rd and supposedly I went over 5gig on the 27th of last month, I dont know how the hell that happened when I used it less than I usually do. I didnt even tether at all last month....

Bamdroid said:
You've been throttled my friend. Its still technically "unlimited" but at a lower speed. Its in the fine print unfortunately ...they fail to tell us that when signing up...
There's a rumor there's a fix to it...
Put www.internet2.com in the apn settings...I haven't tried it because I barely hit 4gb/month. Give it a whirl.
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Ill give this a try, let you know if it still works.

hey Sfkn2 i like your prelude. did you do the headlights by yourself?

iambryantho said:
hey Sfkn2 i like your prelude. did you do the headlights by yourself?
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Yeah. S2k projectors with 5 series halos.

I thought that the standard 29.99 and then 20 dollar loyalty plans limit was 10gb a month before being throttled.
I used to have an HD2, and was able to get 5gigs a month with the 9.99 tzones plan

Sfkn2 said:
Hm... when was the last time you went over 5 gb? It was changed on Jan 20th of this year, if I'm not mistaken.
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Mostly every billing cycle i go over 5 gb lol
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just change apn whenever i go over.always works for me
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Yeah. S2k projectors with 5 series halos.
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nice. do you have any more pics on the forum or something? i own a prelude too

Um...?
So which app is wrong? I last month I got a text saying I was going to be throttled this month however did not receive a text. I have been tethering the crap out of my phone this month cuz the damn modem broke, but have not seen any repercussions. It's blatantly obvious something has gone wrong here. Not complaining though just wanting to learn more about how it works.

look at it this way. at least the unlimited cap (that sounds so stupid), isn't 2gb like some carriers. but im not liking this trend of paying more for less.

Bamdroid said:
There's a rumor there's a fix to it...
Put www.internet2.com in the apn settings...I haven't tried it because I barely hit 4gb/month. Give it a whirl.
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I think you mean internet2.voicestream.com ?
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I was throttled in December, 2 weeks into the billing cycle. The device would still show the "H" but it was Edge speeds...
I still use a lot of mobile data, but don't break the 5GB mark any longer...as soon as I get home I hook onto WiFi.
It is still unlimited, though. Hell, remember old phones and their SLOW WAP access? At least it's better than that...

The sprint site is down, (Tiered Data?)

After trying to go to MySprint to check my dad's upgrade status I noticed that the entire site appears to be down. I noticed yesterday that Sprint could be changing to tiered data today but I hope it's something else.
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It's up for me bro ...

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It's up for me bro ...
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oo i see dude
probably updating it with new prices maybe ?
since Evo and epic prices will probably drop thanks to Evo 3d...

iSaint said:
oo i see dude
probably updating it with new prices maybe ?
since Evo and epic prices will probably drop thanks to Evo 3d...
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I think it is something more sinister, tiered data, look here.

Don't think this will affect me... but why would sprint end their unlimited everything when they put so much into it...

I don't think this nesescarily means the end of unlimited data. I think the everything plans will stay intact and these "buckets" will be small for dumb phone users who want smart phones but don't want to jump from a 69.99 family talk and text to a very expensive (in their eyes) 129.99 plus 10 dollars per smart phone.
A single bucket of say 5 gb for 30 would be a god way to update a 4 phone plan with 2 smartphone with out going to a everything data plan with 2 phones that don't use data. This might be a good way to even power your tablet ith internet instead of paying fcor an additional expensive data plan.
Remmber, this little internal document shows almost nothing. Let's not get all up in a bunch over something we don't ANY details on. I know sprint may have their hads up their asses when it comes to bringing in the popular devices with diverse selection, but they have always been pretty inovative on pricing.
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iSaint said:
Don't think this will affect me... but why would sprint end their unlimited everything when they put so much into it...
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+1 I so agree they are just starting to gain on the big 2 and if/when the Tmobile and Att merger happens they will make a killing. I think if they are going to do that they will not do away with unlimited that is there bread and butter.

Care for me to shed some light on this?
SNAP and FDT were scheduled for maintenance from 11:15pm to 10:15am CST. SNAP and FDT are our ordering systems. The Sprint store is down because everyone is effected by this. Customer care, NSS, and Account Services all cannot order any phones during this time.
We should be seeing the site come back up here very shortly. However, about the tiered data, from what I have read and heard from some of my other Sprint connections they are just making new cheaper plans for people who don't want to pay for unlimited 4G data.
And Sprint is doing this because of one reason, LTE. Remember what I said earlier? 80% of the Sprint towers by 2013 will have WiMax and LTE. They are redoing every single tower, one by one.

Whosdaman said:
Care for me to shed some light on this?
SNAP and FDT were scheduled for maintenance from 11:15pm to 10:15am CST. SNAP and FDT are our ordering systems. The Sprint store is down because everyone is effected by this. Customer care, NSS, and Account Services all cannot order any phones during this time.
We should be seeing the site come back up here very shortly. However, about the tiered data, from what I have read and heard from some of my other Sprint connections they are just making new cheaper plans for people who don't want to pay for unlimited 4G data.
And Sprint is doing this because of one reason, LTE. Remember what I said earlier? 80% of the Sprint towers by 2013 will have WiMax and LTE. They are redoing every single tower, one by one.
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Now that makes sense .... so this is a good thing ...

iSaint said:
Now that makes sense .... so this is a good thing ...
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That's exactly what I thought too. Sprint is covering their ass, while also helping us

Whosdaman said:
That's exactly what I thought too. Sprint is covering their ass, while also helping us
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Youdaman =)
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Not only that but the Author of that article says this almost certainly means... in other words he has no clue and is guessing. Plus Sprint did not comment. I believe others here are correct in assuming it is for those without some type of unlimited data plan and want to share data between other phones in their plan. If anything these "buckets" of sharing may have limits. But just use Bluetooth file share and no network data is used.

kennyglass123 said:
Not only that but the Author of that article says this almost certainly means... in other words he has no clue and is guessing. Plus Sprint did not comment. I believe others here are correct in assuming it is for those without some type of unlimited data plan and want to share data between other phones in their plan. If anything these "buckets" of sharing may have limits. But just use Bluetooth file share and no network data is used.
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I'm so glad someone else pointed that out
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Whosdaman said:
I'm so glad someone else pointed that out
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Could u confirm our within date again? I had just readed an article that said the 24th for both evo3d and within. Which is it!! ><
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Shoulon said:
Could u confirm our within date again? I had just readed an article that said the 24th for both evo3d and within. Which is it!! ><
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July 24th for the Within
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Whosdaman said:
July 24th for the Within
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Soo awesome... sprints stock's are gunna skyrocket.
By the way, what's with that DS phone?
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Shoulon said:
Soo awesome... sprints stock's are gunna skyrocket.
By the way, what's with that DS phone?
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LOL it failed...

I figured that it was for smaller data plans (not affecting most of us). I gotta grab myself some Sprint shares soon.

By the end of this year sprint will be around 200% ytd for stock.
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Sprint, you were our last hope.

Let's hope this is only for non-sprint Sprint owned services.
Kinda makes sense, you don't get all the benefits if you're with the cheap brands like Virgin.
/sigh
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/13/sprints-virgin-mobile-brand-to-test-throttling-while-sprint-pok/

Not for postpaid customers...for now.

mattykinsx said:
Let's hope this is only for non-sprint Sprint owned services.
Kinda makes sense, you don't get all the benefits if you're with the cheap brands like Virgin.
/sigh
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/13/sprints-virgin-mobile-brand-to-test-throttling-while-sprint-pok/
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At least we know that if data is eventually tiered we won't be charged extra like ATT and VZW customers.
Throttling is by far the lesser of two evils.
What's sad is this wouldn't effect me even if I went over. I average ~256kbps anyway

Well...I wouldn't mind 256k speeds right now! They need to fix some stuffs, ASAP. I'm burnin up the interwebs @60kps on 3G currently.

lynyrd65 said:
At least we know that if data is eventually tiered we won't be charged extra like ATT and VZW customers.
Throttling is by far the lesser of two evils.
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+1 on the throttling. Id hate to pay overage charges. i believe that sprint is not gonna do it in the near future ( hoping... i repeat hoping it wont at least) but of course it could happen. they are using the fact that everyone else is doing it as a little marketing push.
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Its possible that they are only going to do it to the prepaid virgin mobile and possibly boost mobile eventually too.
It makes sense.
Encourages you to go the route of going with Sprint itself.

mattykinsx said:
Its possible that they are only going to do it to the prepaid virgin mobile and possibly boost mobile eventually too.
It makes sense.
Encourages you to go the route of going with Sprint itself.
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This is what I'm thinking.
And in terms of throttling or overages ... I'd take throttling in a heartbeat.
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yea, i know that i would much prefer throttling over overages if i were forced to choose between the two.
of course, i'd rather not choose either.

Let's just hope sprint does not bring anything like this to their main front... This would make me sad
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I have yet to hear anything about that, BUT that's not to say it won't happen eventually.. Unfortunately. Ready assured if I hear ANYTHING AT ALL, I will post. If anyone else has some deeper insight, PLEASE LET ME KNOW
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I wish I could get 256kbps....at least on a Verizon PRL I can tether and not pull my hair out just to browse a forum or two.

mattykinsx said:
Its possible that they are only going to do it to the prepaid virgin mobile and possibly boost mobile eventually too.
It makes sense.
Encourages you to go the route of going with Sprint itself.
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Exactly
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mattykinsx said:
Its possible that they are only going to do it to the prepaid virgin mobile and possibly boost mobile eventually too.
It makes sense.
Encourages you to go the route of going with Sprint itself.
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Gotta pay for our unlimited somehow. Right?

jjshleprock said:
Gotta pay for our unlimited somehow. Right?
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Unlimited is definitely not cheap... there's a reason nobody offers it anymore

DirtyShroomz said:
Unlimited is definitely not cheap... there's a reason nobody offers it anymore
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i hope sprint can steal some people out of all this BS with other carriers I always try to tell people to switch or about deals if they are at or near the end of their contract. Also not to worried about throttled internet get like 1m tops thats at night and a good day

ckoadiyn said:
i hope sprint can steal some people out of all this BS with other carriers I always try to tell people to switch or about deals if they are at or near the end of their contract. Also not to worried about throttled internet get like 1m tops thats at night and a good day
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I do the same. I might be a homer, but man, the incentives are just too good when compared to the sheep headers.
If my signals bad for a few, or I can't get wimax... peanuts!
The plans + phones / money can't be beat!

jjshleprock said:
I do the same. I might be a homer, but man, the incentives are just too good when compared to the sheep headers.
If my signals bad for a few, or I can't get wimax... peanuts!
The plans + phones / money can't be beat!
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agreed lol doesnt bother me to have bad signal usually only for a minute tops lol deff best phones and plans

I just don't get why everybody is so worried about faster speeds when everybody caps or throttles. (Yes, except for Sprint. So far)
It's like, "Hey, I can hit my cap in 2.5 weeks!" "Oh yeah well I can hit mine in less than 2 weeks!"

Mark_Hardware said:
I just don't get why everybody is so worried about faster speeds when everybody caps or throttles. (Yes, except for Sprint. So far)
It's like, "Hey, I can hit my cap in 2.5 weeks!" "Oh yeah well I can hit mine in less than 2 weeks!"
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i could care less about speed as long as there isnt a cap all these ISP now a days giving caps is ****ing BS
throttle>caps

ckoadiyn said:
agreed lol doesnt bother me to have bad signal usually only for a minute tops lol deff best phones and plans
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Best plans by far... The phones (hTC) get better with each release.
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Delivery Reports!! PLEASE READ IN THE UK!!

I just wanted to let everyone on here know, in a recent update u could see a little tick next to text messages when they were received, well, I have just checked my phone bill and found out that, on Orange, UK, u get charged £0.009 per report.
Now I know this isnt a major big thing, BUT, when u send a lot of txs, this can mount up!!
Wanted to let people know, if they didnt already, so other people wouldnt be hit by huge bills cos of a phone feature!!
Also, if u use the 241 films thing, u get charged £0.292 per message!!
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I'm on Orange have been for like 3 or 4 years. Never been charged delivery reports. In July I sent 4000 text messages. No extra charge for reports? 4000 x 0.009p = £0.36
I like the little ticks though thats cool I just thought it meant when the message is sent.. not when they receive it?

danieljamie said:
I like the little ticks though thats cool I just thought it meant when the message is sent.. not when they receive it?
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Alas no.....
I was REALLY shocked when I looked on my bill and say it!! Dunno if i should call orange and say WTF is going on!!??
I liked the little ticks too, it was nice to know when a message was received by the other person, now i have turned them off, i miss them lol.

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According to the OP it's £0.009, not 0.009p= £0.00009. According to the OP if you send 4k SMS you would get charged 36 pounds.

Oops my bad.. Rushed the post..
Well regardless, I've not been charged £36 for my 4000 texts delivery reports?
I'm on dolphin 40 plan, but I pay £35 because Phones 4 u gave me £5 monthly discount
However I have heard of many people getting charged so I don't doubt it. Strange

that's why i'm a bit wary about some custom roms at the moment. because when you try to access the message app settings on some roms, the app crashes. not cool. but i help zerojay fix it in his

i can confirm this. i get charged to ffs. how do i turn this off? just checked there and there is no tick anymore in sms convo's since 2.3.4 update

Roshi69 said:
i can confirm this. i get charged to ffs. how do i turn this off? just checked there and there is no tick anymore in sms convo's since 2.3.4 update
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if you click the menu button while on the main menu of the messaging app (where you see all the conversations), there will be a tick box for delivery reports. i think they may have set it to off by default on the 2.3.4 update

When my Vodafone contract runs out, i will stop it and use Giff Gaff only.
I ordered a free GiffGaff simcard last month and topped up with £10.
Im now over 50 gigs of data downloaded on my phone in just over 20 days.
I leave loads of torrents going while i am at work ON MY PHONE !!!!!!!!
I dont believe anything in the World, let alone the UK touches GiffGaff for being the best deal ever.
Just thought id share that information

Crap, I never call or send SMS they're my guys. It's a pity that I live in the Spanish Wild West where robber carriers act shamelessly ripping off us all.

dsswoosh said:
When my Vodafone contract runs out, i will stop it and use Giff Gaff only.
I ordered a free GiffGaff simcard last month and topped up with £10.
Im now over 50 gigs of data downloaded on my phone in just over 20 days.
I leave loads of torrents going while i am at work ON MY PHONE !!!!!!!!
I dont believe anything in the World, let alone the UK touches GiffGaff for being the best deal ever.
Just thought id share that information
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Good idea mate, tell everyone that. Then when everyone chooses GiffGaff and start downloading 50+ GB every month, that's when fair usage policies and limits will be imposed... All of a sudden, it won't be such a good deal any more!

drunkenfcuk said:
Good idea mate, tell everyone that. Then when everyone chooses GiffGaff and start downloading 50+ GB every month, that's when fair usage policies and limits will be imposed... All of a sudden, it won't be such a good deal any more!
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Is Giff Gaff losing money with every new customer? If it is, what you say is true. If they're yielding a profit with every new customer, and they probably are, why should he not advertise that we must no longer be scammed by carriers and unfair use policies?
It is never in the interest of people to have information withheld from them.

OK I was wrong. Having turned on delivery reports, they are showing on my Orange bill at 0.009p per report. I've turned them off.. I just use Whatsapp now anyways

I use whatsapp a lot more now too, it does everything!! And using that I don't get charged the 25p to send a media message!!
I'm glad me finding this out has helped everyone!!
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John Legere to lay down the ban hammer on those hacking tethering

According to John Legere, today is the day he will start cracking down on an estimated 3,000 heavy abusers, some who are using up to 2TB a month of data, by means of hacking the tethering ability on their phone. I wonder how many of you here will be hearing from John and the Executive team at T-Mobile?
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/issues-insights-blog/stopping-network-abusers.htm

Game over...
It sucks that this is happening. I live in a place where I only get 3mbps download on my home DSL.
Comcast refuse to wire my house because it's too complicated. So occasionally I use tmobile and hidden tether. Tmobile provides me about 20mbps download at my house vs DSL.
Yes, I use hidden tether, but I never maxed over 50gb/month.

I dont think you have to worry about tethering 50GB a month. I think it's the people who are using hundreds EVERY MONTH lol. But for those who are using that much, time to figure something else out. If anyone here gets contacted, please update us!

I'm with twe90kid. I've never reached the 50GB barrier yet either.

I have been with T-Mobile for about a month and never touched the tethering option, lol. It won't affect me too much. Wi-Fi and data are around the same speeds for me
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From the below quote; I'm hoping he's not going to use this as an excuse to lock down phones or deny service to rooted phones.
"They’re downloading apps that hide their tether usage, rooting their phones, writing code to mask their activity, etc. They are “hacking” the system..."
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DigitalChris602 said:
I dont think you have to worry about tethering 50GB a month. I think it's the people who are using hundreds EVERY MONTH lol. But for those who are using that much, time to figure something else out. If anyone here gets contacted, please update us!
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From his Periscope, this applies to anyone using some means of hiding tether - no matter the overage. Once you go over that 7GB limit, its slow down time and I'm happy they finally did it.

These abusers will probably try to distract everyone by waving their arms about throttling data
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Note that Legere is fully aware that thieves will continue to justify their actions and switch the blame to T-Mobile.
I hope he find a way to crackdown on all the data hogs out there.

ungraph said:
Note that Legere is fully aware that thieves will continue to justify their actions and switch the blame to T-Mobile.
I hope he find a way to crackdown on all the data hogs out there.
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I agree. Even when I did use to tether hack, I think the most I used was around 50GB. 2TB is complete insanity.

Good riddance

You know who you are people.
"It purifies my heavens, and makes my thoughts Pure"

what's the 7G's he's talking about?
I'm on the truly unlimited with 5 G's of tethering. I have the tether hack app too. I normally tether about 1-4 G's to my tablet thru the built-in tethering. The only time I use the hack is when I'm away from home for an extended period of time, once or twice a year, and have yet to go over 7 G's while doing so. On the other hand I regularly use 40 - 60 G's on my phone a month. What's the 7 G's they're talking about?

widto08 said:
I'm on the truly unlimited with 5 G's of tethering. I have the tether hack app too. I normally tether about 1-4 G's to my tablet thru the built-in tethering. The only time I use the hack is when I'm away from home for an extended period of time, once or twice a year, and have yet to go over 7 G's while doing so. On the other hand I regularly use 40 - 60 G's on my phone a month. What's the 7 G's they're talking about?
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my wife and I both have the unlimited 2 lines with 7GB hotspot for 100/month by which we use practically none of it. Its included with the unlimited plan.
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denson9874 said:
my wife and I both have the unlimited 2 lines with 7GB hotspot for 100/month by which we use practically none of it. Its included with the unlimited plan through T-Mobile.
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Ummm. Might want to edit out your phone numbers

widto08 said:
Ummm. Might want to edit out your phone numbers
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already had those numbers changed but thanks for looking out
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I don't think he cares about people rooting their phone. That doesn't cost them money
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Supamike88 said:
I don't think he cares about people rooting their phone. That doesn't cost them money
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Rooting per se doesn't cost carriers money. But what people do with root can translate to lost revenue. From a purely business standpoint, limiting (or outright banning) people that tether truckloads of data is completely reasonable.

I'll keep tethering, these warnings come about every 6 months. Folks will express their opinions, share some misconceptions about what tethering does to network health but never seem dig below the surface and see that the majority of people that tether AREN'T cranking down insane amounts of data. Heck I can easily hit 60gb a month without tethering. Some will say that is detrimental to the network. I would love an objective look at the amount of users and a break down of how many users use what amount of data.. Or ya know keep tossing vague scare tactics our way.
You want to stop tethering stop making it so easy to defeat with client side provisioning and user agent sniffers.

I used to use mine for home internet i would hit like 100GB a month. I was talking to the TMO Rep and he said most of the employees do it too.

supercobaltss said:
I used to use mine for home internet i would hit like 100GB a month. I was talking to the TMO Rep and he said most of the employees do it too.
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Lol John is going to end of firing his work staff. How ironic would it be if it turns out that they are tethering all the devices in the stores because of internet bill on the LAN Line!