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Question about overclocking... is it safe

I have read over the warnings in the overclocking thread here I just wanted to get some other people thoughts. I was thinking about over clocking my G2 but I don't want to hurt the phone... I do have Best Buys warranty on the phone so how does that affect it? Any thoughts would be great.

Just do it- you'll be fine. Why would you buy a warranty from BestBuy, though...?

Overclocking it does have its ramifications on its life expectancy, due to the heat it'll generate and excessive use. The only real reason to overclock is "Why not?" At it's current state, the phone is fast and already out-performs some of the other phones on the market.
I'm sitting at 1 GHz but really, the marginal difference you'll care to notice is in miliseconds from bench tests. So if you want to, be smart about it's usage and get SetCPU. It'll really help you manage your CPU smartly.
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Thanks for the info... ya i already d/led setCUP... i am following blackprince's directions but I can't get the two files that i d/led from XDA to cut and paste into the gscript folder that I had to make? any idea?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wToXNT3zIqY&feature=related
here is his video I am at around 3:20 in the video that where it wont extract into the gscript folder i made it just says says "error listing files"

tdcrawford said:
Just do it- you'll be fine. Why would you buy a warranty from BestBuy, though...?
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Bought the phone at bestbuy and there warranty plan is much better than T-mobile... I tend to break phones so this time seeing as its a really nice one i wanted to pay for insurance... insurance is what i ment not warranty.... sorry

Ok just about there but have another problem
I got past my last problem the files were just not d/ling so i d/led them onto a pc and tranfered them onto the phone via USB... so i get to the gscript point and cpoc works fine but when i go to run noreboot and oshitttt i get this message... "delete_module vision oc" failed"... I put the vision OC file on the root directory... first folder as it opens not within a folder on the SD card... so i don't get why it is not working?
Please help!

If you can, double check that the overclock file had been pushed to /data/local/
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Sv3nt3k said:
If you can, double check that the overclock file had been pushed to /data/local/
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Sorry... like I said I am new and very green with android... how do I do this... I still see the file vision oc or whatever (guessing that's the overclock file you are talking about) on the sdcard after I tried running gscript. I don't know if that means it hasn't been pushed (moved)? To data/local... when I go to astro I see a data folder but it says its empty when I go to it.
Also I don't know which binary file to use the before the ota or after I have the ota insrtalled so I would think I would use the one after ota... but ya not sure. thoughts?

T-Mobile Speed Throttling

T-Mobile throttled my speed on my G2 which sucked.... I was exploring the the system files on the device with root explorer and noticed a folder that said throttle and delted it after switching to R/W and my speeds instantly came back. Can someone else try and see if they have the same results my speeds were right around 2mb down before now I'm back around 8-9mb
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Whats the location of the folder?

Data/ system/ Throttle
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Hhhmm interesting, I've deleted the folder but I have ****ty reception here at work "EDGE" so i'll have to try this later on my lunch break.

Tried it, I still only get 2-3 mbps.
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I'm not sure I believe this... that would be the lamest implementation of throttling I've ever heard of. Dependent on the phone OS? Yuck. They'd have to be genuinely retarded to implement it like this.

I noticed mine came back after a reboot. Went to look for it again and there it was. Data/system/throttle.
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Gattling said:
T-Mobile throttled my speed on my G2 which sucked.... I was exploring the the system files on the device with root explorer and noticed a folder that said throttle and delted it after switching to R/W and my speeds instantly came back. Can someone else try and see if they have the same results my speeds were right around 2mb down before now I'm back around 8-9mb
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This would be incredibly convenient and extremely amusing if it were the case. I deleted the folder in my directory and got pretty much the same crappy speeds that I have at my job (600 down, 100 up). I'll have to wait until I get home for further testing. Hmmm... I'm going to reboot and take a good look at those files. I wonder (assuming these truly are referenced in a data throttle) if the files can be modified so they're not replaced upon reboot?
***Edit*** Opening file /data/system/throttle/698285108 reveals values of
1:6:29006:982164224:198106875:0:0:0:17008:166777478:21947529:0:0:0:2:1290751200000:1293343200000
***Edit2*** Rebooted and opened directory again, to see /data/system/throttle/temp which revealed different values
1:6:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1291140294223:1291140294223
ran a speed test and obtained basically the same results I had before. However, after the test, I checked the directory again and found a new copy of the old file - /data/system/throttle/698285108, which had the value of
1:6:382479:0:0:0:0:0:52205:0:0:0:0:0:1:1290751200000:129334320000
When I ran few speed tests after I saw this file and saw significantly lower speeds (300-400 down, 50 up). However, I'm still at work and my signal often fluctuates, so I cannot attest to the validity of these trials. My question is, if this directory is created in the G2 and the MT4G, does it exist in pre-HSPA+ devices? Does the Nexus One see throttling like we do? If not, that could give strength to the theory that throttling is software-based and not necessarily controlled at the data source. If I were T-Mobile, it would make reasonable sense to me to send out a signal (or command if you will) to an individual GSM device once conditions were met (exceeding data limit) that would force the device to throttle down. This raises the idea that the signal would have to be sent again with a reverse command once that billing cycle is completed. Is this practical? We all probably have different billing cycles (unless you're on a business account). I'm just speculating here, so try not to put too much stock into this.

You could try putting a bit of non-recognizable gibberish in there and change its permissions so it can't be overwritten.

Gerson2407 said:
Tried it, I still only get 2-3 mbps.
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Lol! you arent being throttled! throttled speeds are 50-60kbps...

TL24 said:
Hhhmm interesting, I've deleted the folder but I have ****ty reception here at work "EDGE" so i'll have to try this later on my lunch break.
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Yeah, EDGE/GPRS isnt affected by throttling. In fact, edge becomes much faster of the the two when throttled. Stupid 3G throttled at 60kbps....

Deleting the folder entirely might work.... I know I saw some references to throttling in services.jar when themeing the other day. could unpack the jar and delete them and repack and push.
The data folder is just logging stuff so that wont work. services.jar is what needs to be attacked.

I'm a heavy data user I'm well over the 5 gig data throttling cap check your data usage you might not be throttled, checking back the file was rewritten but with different values. Checked on my vibrant and the folder was not present maybe just in the 4G devices so far.
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Also noticed that if your tethering to another mobile device for instance I use my vibrant strictly as a tablet tethered to my G2 they don't notice that your tethering whichis useful if you have multiple devices and want to pay only one data plan.
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Don't you think if the throttle file actually throttled your data speeds, it would have been named something besides "throttle?"
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screwthe49ers said:
Don't you think if the throttle file actually throttled your data speeds, it would have been named something besides "throttle?"
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They claimed deleting it un-throttles data and it regenerates following a reboot.... so, yes they named it throttle and it works. there is more to it that just that folder but its good enough for temp. use...
What in the world would you expect it to be named? Secret folder or some code name, lol? Remember, the security on this phone is so high... I doubt they even thought to try and hide it.

Those of you who are deleting the throttle file, are you rooted?
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funkeee said:
Those of you who are deleting the throttle file, are you rooted?
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They would have to be in order to delete it from the data folder...
Good news everyone! (lol! I love the professor from Futurama) I found where everything is taking place. In services.jar (system/framework), there are several lines referring to throttling. I gonna see what I can edit out and will need someone is somewhat knowledgeable enough to push the services.jar into their system/framework folder. I would do it myself but I'm not throttled ATM. I will be later this month, I sure so if I have to wait.... I will. Also, when I have it ready... I need the name of your ROM so I can get the correct services.jar. Mine is themed so I doubt mine will match your phone.

TESTER!
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Gattling said:
T-Mobile throttled my speed on my G2 which sucked.... I was exploring the the system files on the device with root explorer and noticed a folder that said throttle and delted it after switching to R/W and my speeds instantly came back. Can someone else try and see if they have the same results my speeds were right around 2mb down before now I'm back around 8-9mb
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I'm beginning to wonder if you where even throttled... 2MB isn't throttled. The throttle speed is 60kbps. Did you get the throttled text message? I know for sure because it happened to me last month. I was at 9-12MB and got the text message. Then was throttled to 60kbps... It disappeared at the beginning of the new bill cycle.

Data Throttling Governor Removal

Ok, just for S's & G's ... I decided to try the data throttling removal zip Myn provided with RLS5. Now in my area I've had speeds as high as 8mb DL, but generally hover around 1.5mb. Not really what I expect from "blazing fast 4G" lol.
So I ran about 30 speed tests before I installed the removal zip. They all looked very similar to this. (No links = FAIL)
1.75mb DL & 0.45mb UL
I installed the zip file and ran another 30 or so tests. They all looked very similar to this. (FAIL again!)
3.45mb DL & 0.90mb UL
I did this between the hours of 8pm and 9pm, why service really starts to get laggy. It still can't eat a Twinkie faster than a fat girl... but I'll take what I can get.
Anyone else using this??

Where did you get this? Can you post it for download? Will it only work on his roms?
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mikel719 said:
Where did you get this? Can you post it for download? Will it only work on his roms?
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http://goo-inside.me/myn/extras/
AFAIK, it'll only work on RLS5, but if the services.jar is unchanged between Sense ROMs, then it should work on others. Just take a Nandroid and try it yourself.

Sorry to say this has been proven to do nothing on Sprint.
[Well, except for make part of the settings section force close]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863923
SO FAR, THIS HAS ONLY BEEN KNOWN TO WORK ON T-MOBILE USA AND CANADA BELL... ALL OTHER CARRIERS SEEM TO HAVE THESE FILES JUST BECAUSE IT'S A STANDARD IN ANDROID 2.2.1 AND SEEM TO BE CONTROLLED COMPLETELY OTA UNLIKE TMOBILE AND BELL...
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Any "throttling" or "governing" that Sprint does is server side.
Glad your 4g is performing better as of late but removing those files didn't cause it.

I hate to be that guy... But couldnt you have used the search function and found the thread where this is being discussed already. Redundant threads clutter up the board and confuse people who want to know whats what.
Please Delete this thread or merge with this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=888372
To quote John Wayne (google it if your young) " It's getting to be re Gawd-Damn-diculous! "
tim

Data speeds, wtf?

Wow my 3G is like less than 20KB right now what the ****?
My 4G is like 80KB
My 4G at like 3am is 400KB but what the hell is wrong with sprint? I don't even wnat to call them because they will go through the same "Oh nothing is wrong on our end" bull****
Anybody else????

try this, using root explorer i went into system/ etc / host , and change the ip from 127.0.0.1 (or whatever) to 0.0.0.0 (zero's, not O or o), once you do that hit menu and save and exit, now it's going to tell you that it'll save the old ip as host.bak, however your going to want to delete that too, but atleast make sure you write it down and save it.
i went from about 20kbps to 1.2mbps after this, took me a bit to learn that,

Thnx, I downloaded a program called "Adfree Android" as advised http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=908210&page=4 < and I'll see if that works. I will try your method too!

Tried 0.0.0.0 with Adfree Android's feature and it just slowed it down some more

tomh1979 said:
try this, using root explorer i went into system/ etc / host , and change the ip from 127.0.0.1 (or whatever) to 0.0.0.0 (zero's, not O or o), once you do that hit menu and save and exit, now it's going to tell you that it'll save the old ip as host.bak, however your going to want to delete that too, but atleast make sure you write it down and save it.
i went from about 20kbps to 1.2mbps after this, took me a bit to learn that,
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hey quick question i did the step you took but when i get to host and open it up on text editor its says file is too large to display it still show but there are about 200+ ip addresses do i have to change them all?

qubanaso said:
hey quick question i did the step you took but when i get to host and open it up on text editor its says file is too large to display it still show but there are about 200+ ip addresses do i have to change them all?
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200+, lol holy [email protected]$ i have no clue, i only had one ip.

lmao i mean idk i wish i could post u a screenshot of it but im still kinda new at this stuff

amirborna said:
Thnx, I downloaded a program called "Adfree Android" as advised http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=908210&page=4 < and I'll see if that works. I will try your method too!
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i had also downloaded that, but it didn't work for me.

tomh1979 said:
i had also downloaded that, but it didn't work for me.
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Is it me, or the AOSP roms having problems with consistent connection? Or lower speeds, i had to ultimately go back to Sense because Cyan and MIUI connection was slim to none in my room. I don't understand why the rom would do this though, the rom and radio is separate right?

The last two days have been bad in east of the lake around the Seattle area. My 4g sometimes just keeps looping to connect. Media streaming is crappy. Something must be going on. But when I get connected to 4g it is pretty fast around 9mbps.
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mykenyc said:
Is it me, or the AOSP roms having problems with consistent connection? Or lower speeds, i had to ultimately go back to Sense because Cyan and MIUI connection was slim to none in my room. I don't understand why the rom would do this though, the rom and radio is separate right?
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i don't think it matter's wether it's sense or aosp, i had issue's with both showing poor 3g, while 4g was just fine as it normally was.

I don't know whats wrong with you. I'm at 900kb/600kb

I'm in STL and my 3G speeds have been horrible at best lately, also..

I was just trying to watch a youtube and it was taking forever to load so I ran a speedtest. .02 megs down with a ping of 984. WTF????????? I think this has pretty much made up my mind. When the Thunderbolt drops im done with Sprint.

amirborna said:
Wow my 3G is like less than 20KB right now what the ****?
My 4G is like 80KB
My 4G at like 3am is 400KB but what the hell is wrong with sprint? I don't even wnat to call them because they will go through the same "Oh nothing is wrong on our end" bull****
Anybody else????
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8634171&postcount=7

tomh1979 said:
try this, using root explorer i went into system/ etc / host , and change the ip from 127.0.0.1 (or whatever) to 0.0.0.0 (zero's, not O or o), once you do that hit menu and save and exit, now it's going to tell you that it'll save the old ip as host.bak, however your going to want to delete that too, but atleast make sure you write it down and save it.
i went from about 20kbps to 1.2mbps after this, took me a bit to learn that,
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Hey thanks man I went from 200kbps to about 900-1000kbps..though I need more testing but its ok so far..I appreciate the info.

jonathan413 said:
Hey thanks man I went from 200kbps to about 900-1000kbps..though I need more testing but its ok so far..I appreciate the info.
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Good, glad this helped someone else.
swyped from my gingerbread'd Evo 4G

Before 4G was "officially" out in los angeles I was getting 9mb down, I tried last week and got 1.2mb down. That's horrible and I am assuming it's because once sprint said 4G was available everyone started using it. A girl that just started working with me has the EVO and was saying how she keeps 4G on all the time just because. I wish I could get faster speeds too : (
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mcskibadee1 said:
Before 4G was "officially" out in los angeles I was getting 9mb down, I tried last week and got 1.2mb down. That's horrible and I am assuming it's because once sprint said 4G was available everyone started using it. A girl that just started working with me has the EVO and was saying how she keeps 4G on all the time just because. I wish I could get faster speeds too : (
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Women don't deserve cellphones they should be making a sandwich in the kitchen just my ¢.04 also I recently brought my evo in at a sprint store in south texas and the douche who replaced my screen stole my sense and gave me some bs rhetoric about sense I lost mine and like htc sense a lot
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ProcessorHog said:
The last two days have been bad in east of the lake around the Seattle area. My 4g sometimes just keeps looping to connect. Media streaming is crappy. Something must be going on. But when I get connected to 4g it is pretty fast around 9mbps.
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I live in the Freemont/Ballard area and I have been experiencing horrible 3g speeds.

T-Mobile "Over The Cap" Throttle Is No Joke...

I just exceeded my 5GB for the first time ever (I thought I exceeded it last month but I didn't).
My speed test results were as followed:
Pre-Throttle:
DOWN: 3.5 mb
UP: 2.0 mb
Post-Throttle:
DOWN: .06 mb
UP: .09 MB
That is insane. It takes absolutely forever just to load pages now, and my reset isn't until the 8th.
Is there a way around this?

Not that I am aware. use wifi.
This happened to me last month. Sucked balls

actually, there was some work done a couple months ago on this.
something about pulling a file out of /system or /data and then editing the file to delete a couple lines of code, then pushing back to phone. (you may be able to use RootExplorer if youre not adept at ADB)
i understand it that Tmo tracks data usage, then sends a message to your phone to throttle. this message changes some settings.
apparently if you delete or modify those lines of code, the throttle message from Tmo does NOTHING but take up space in your sms inbox
i would post the thread for you, but i forgot where i found it.
just googlesearch "nexus throttle xda" and you should find it.

onesavior said:
Not that I am aware. use wifi.
This happened to me last month. Sucked balls
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When I moved in to my new place, I decided to save money by not getting internet and just tethering from my phone so...this isn't an option for me unfortunately :/
zmodp said:
actually, there was some work done a couple months ago on this.
something about pulling a file out of /system or /data and then editing the file to delete a couple lines of code, then pushing back to phone. (you may be able to use RootExplorer if youre not adept at ADB)
i understand it that Tmo tracks data usage, then sends a message to your phone to throttle. this message changes some settings.
apparently if you delete or modify those lines of code, the throttle message from Tmo does NOTHING but take up space in your sms inbox
i would post the thread for you, but i forgot where i found it.
just googlesearch "nexus throttle xda" and you should find it.
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Thanks dude, I'll look it up and see what I can find.

OK, so I found these...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900639
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872570
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9639621#post9639621
...but it says "out of date" and when I pull up /system/framework/service.jar and try to open it in text editor, its just characters..
Anyone have information on this?
EDIT-
I found files in data/system/ that were called (Folder) Throttle (which was modified today, when my throttle would have taken effect), a file usagetracker and a folder usagestats (which had a few files created through the day today).
I deleted all of the above, rebooted....phone rebooted fine.
Let me check and see if I'm throttled still...
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Yeah, I shouldn't have expected it to be that easy lol. Still throttled.
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After rebooting and clicking my browser, the file in /data/system/throttle came back again...so it may actually have something to do with it.
File is -470754350 and temp.

I remember reading that switching over to EDGE and then back to 3G somehow made the throttling go away...

pakraider said:
I remember reading that switching over to EDGE and then back to 3G somehow made the throttling go away...
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Yeah I tried. I actually switched to 2g, deleted the throttle folder, switched back to 3g and tried again but same results. Soon as I switch to 3G and try anything to do with internet it puts that throttle folder back in the data/system folder.
I opened the file, and its just a bunch of numbers. I tried playing with the numbers a bit to see what happens but so far, nothing has changed...

T-Mobile USA is a dying operator.. play nice

Try and play with file/directory ownership/permissions to stop this directory/file being written/read.

pakraider said:
T-Mobile USA is a dying operator.. play nice
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How is it dying? Its now a part of the largest cellular provider in the US. wtf

Tmobile edge routers shape traffic based on IMSI, HLR, and VLR which are stored on the SIM and authenticate user equipment/accounts to the network... meaning, shaping is done at the OSI layer 3 network level... attempts to make changes at a higher level will result in the same condition (data throttled connection), which is why your changes to the registers on the device would not rectify the throttling... proxify your transmissions to get the result you desire...

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How is it dying? Its now a part of the largest cellular provider in the US. wtf
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Yeah, because it's being gobbled up for a fraction of what it was worth when Deutsche Telekom first bought it. They're strapped for cash and spectrum. Sad.

Sinister said:
… proxify your transmissions to get the result you desire...
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Care to elaborate?

Been searching and have not found any work around yet. Not sure what this means "proxify your transmissions to get the result you desire"??

galaxys said:
Been searching and have not found any work around yet. Not sure what this means "proxify your transmissions to get the result you desire"??
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Yeah, I found nothing either. I think I'll have to stick it out, I'm not sure there's a way around it.
It'd be nice if we could get some guys together and figure out a solution to this for others though

I think what galaxys is saying is that the throttling is done on the network side, not on your phone. So, no matter what change you make to your phone, you will still be throttled by the network. I don't see how proxying would help either since the data still goes over the network... unless it can't throttle encrypted traffic or something.

pakraider said:
Yeah, because it's being gobbled up for a fraction of what it was worth when Deutsche Telekom first bought it. They're strapped for cash and spectrum. Sad.
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Yeah, and they bought them before the huge crash in 2001, so that really means nothing.

Ouch. That's a bummer. Wish I could help. I used 10.5Gb on att last month and no throttle.
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upyouratrix said:
Ouch. That's a bummer. Wish I could help. I used 10.5Gb on att last month and no throttle.
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Yeah, just paid a nice hunk of bill for going over 2GB lol.
I think I'd rather have a 5GB cap and merely get throttled as apposed to being charged.