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I find it very amusing that the apple fanboys have taken to comparing a tablet pc to my smart phone, and then bragging that it faster. Is that really a fair comparison? I mean if that was fair then I could compare my desktop PC with 12 gig's of ram and the newest intel i7 core processor to the iPad, and say "Well look there my desktop is faster than the iPad, WOW!"
COME ON!, Your tablet "PC" is supposed to be faster than a phone, the fact that it is just barely faster should depress you and make you want to cry, not jump for joy that your giant iPhone replica is slightly faster than my sweet, sleek, and sexy smart phone!
Here is a link to an article benchmarking and comparing the iPad, N1, and iPhone 3GS.
Gr8gorilla said:
I find it very amusing that the apple fanboys have taken to comparing a tablet pc to my smart phone, and then bragging that it faster. Is that really a fair comparison? I mean if that was fair then I could compare my desktop PC with 12 gig's of ram and the newest intel i7 core processor to the iPad, and say "Well look there my desktop is faster than the iPad, WOW!"
COME ON!, Your tablet "PC" is supposed to be faster than a phone, the fact that it is just barely faster should depress you and make you want to cry, not jump for joy that your giant iPhone replica is slightly faster than my sweet, sleek, and sexy smart phone!
Here is a link to an article benchmarking and comparing the iPad, N1, and iPhone 3GS.
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A) You messed up the poll. It should be radio buttons to select one, not checkboxes where someone could select all the options.
B) You missed the purpose of the benchmarks. It wasn't to compare the speed of devices, but to compare the speed of each processor.
C) Quote: "I'd say somewhere in the 10% range is probably realistic for how much faster the A4 is compared to the Snapdragon." --> I think that's a testament to how powerful the Nexus One is. Less than half the size, yet 90% of the power.
Turn the /rage off.
actually the poll is supposed to be funny and each answer is pretty much the same, so I selected to allow multiple choices.
Second I didn't miss the point of the article at all. I understand completely what the point was (comparing the two processors). I was just doing in the spirit of the apple Hate since the apple/HTC suit.
Anyway its all in good fun!
The iPad also only has 256MB of RAM. They copied the test from anandtech, and the test is terribly flawed. Android is in its current state less efficient at rendering web pages. As for the Javascript test, I'd like to see them downgrade to the version of CM with the new V8 engine and re-test If you compare an iPhone 3GS and a Droid at web page rendering, you'll find that the 3GS is considerably faster than what you would expect the extra 50MHz on the 3GS to go. A lot of power can still be pushed out of the Nexus One - the Snapdragon is a very capable chip. I'd say wait for Froyo and beyond!
Gr8gorilla said:
I find it very amusing that the apple fanboys have taken to comparing a tablet pc to my smart phone, and then bragging that it faster. Is that really a fair comparison? I mean if that was fair then I could compare my desktop PC with 12 gig's of ram and the newest intel i7 core processor to the iPad, and say "Well look there my desktop is faster than the iPad, WOW!"
COME ON!, Your tablet "PC" is supposed to be faster than a phone, the fact that it is just barely faster should depress you and make you want to cry, not jump for joy that your giant iPhone replica is slightly faster than my sweet, sleek, and sexy smart phone!
Here is a link to an article benchmarking and comparing the iPad, N1, and iPhone 3GS.
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Lol It don't make phonecalls though and all of other stuff apple wants to implement into it, they are going to either have to upgrade ram or make awhole new ipad so look forward to wasting your money apple fanboys...Ipad generation 1 and 2 and 3 and so on will milk u lol
well, i think the fact that i bought a nexus the day the ipad was released is saying something.. lol
Wow!
You guys are kiding me?
the Ipad is way better than the nexus one. Duhhhh
Comparing strawberries and bananas... sheesh!
different devices for different audience
Yeah comparing a phone to a tablet/pc thing is silly. Don't forget the nexus one has a much smaller power supply so the processor has to be configured accordingly. Having a much larger power supply on the ipad allows for more processor power usage I suppose.
Also have you guys seen the latest benchmarks from people running froyo on the nexus one? very speedy it seems.
lol I ran the javascript benchmark and got over 18000.. slower than the iphone 3gs' score.. Running paul's desire rom at stock.
forget the ipad check out the gemini!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/06/icds-tegra-2-powered-gemini-is-the-most-feature-complete-tablet/
bobdude5 said:
forget the ipad check out the gemini!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/06/icds-tegra-2-powered-gemini-is-the-most-feature-complete-tablet/
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wow forget the ipad, the hp slate and joojoo. I'll be waiting in line for this one, providing its not a bijillion dollars or released like 3 years from now.
Cyan mod on that beast would be killer
iPad and N1 are two different devices. Comparing them isn't justice. You can upgrade your PC's RAM and processor and then compare the iPad's A4.
Nexus One is the best mobile device available and Apple can't change it... Android needs a little more optimizations and marketing strategy.
Any chance that someone here could port ios4 to the samsung galaxy s, isnt the hardware between the iphone4 and galaxy s pretty similar? (Well at least the important bit, the cpu/gpu). Just for laughs, android is fine.
Well, no.
iOS isn't open source, so it'd be a ***** and a half to do, but you are right were the attempt to be made it would be easier based on the hardware similarities.
If someone did manage it, apple would sure as hell be all over anyone trying to distribute the rom.
I know it's not my business but why would you want to contaminate this Android beauty with the Ios? It's like buying a Ferrari and installing a Lamborghini engine in it.
If you want the Lamborghini, just buy that instead.
why the hell would you want to?
Yea, just like k2snowboards88 said, even if it was to be done, apple would be all over the place with an army of lawyers and class action lawsuits, bunch of f......
If i remember correctly some XDA guy got in trouble because of something he made that "resembled" an apple software.
While lawsuits sound scary, I still don't think that is the right reason not to do it. Do you really Ios is better than Android?
i am also using android (galaxy s) but after giving a try the new iOS 4 i think the iOS has the edge its a much more smooth, easy and eye candy operating system.
Yeah, I totally agree with you savvase.
The UI experience of the Android phones is pretty choppy compared to the Iphones Ios. If I recall correctly, it is because Android is based on a higher level programing, Java, while Ios is based on lower lever programming.
If you want Android to get the Ios smoothness, visit and vote here http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6914
I think if you want ios, that you should get an iphone. The iphone 4g once the bugs are ironed out is a very very good piece of hardware. I want an android phone because I don't want ios.
If you like iOS so much better go for iphone directly. they dont have AMOLED but the hardware is great too.
I believe people here in Galaxy S really happy with the hardware AND the SOFTWARE.
In andriod you get all the customisation you want. iOS will only ask you to upgrade your hardware rather than pushes your hardware the limit.(no video recording in Iphone 3G)
...that iPhone is being mocked in this forum and yet in the very same forum there's an iPhone theme being praised and downloaded by many people?
dan138zig said:
...that iPhone is being mocked in this forum and yet in the very same forum there's an iPhone theme being praised and downloaded by many people?
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No not really ...
Nobody here will deny the Iphone is kind of sexy ....
But it is like dating a cardboard cutout of a supermodel, looks great, but not much you can actually do with it ....
i dont really find it ironic, its not like were wanting to run iOS on our phones or anything, we just like the icons. the supermodel comparison is spot on- the iphone is all looks & no brains. its a gorgeous piece of hardware, id probably buy one if i could run winmo or even android on it.
I haven't heard of very many people running that theme really.
The iPhone looks good to some people...thats all.
the device itself is sexy. turn it on to see the interface-> I then get turned off.
I dont understand why you would want to use something like iphone today but each to their own......
Windows Mobile phones are all about changing the interface whenever you want. The iPhone shell is just another shell, people won't be using it for long.
Even more ironic is that while everyone is downloading iPhone themes, there are plenty of iPhone users hacking their phones just to use other themes!
I've never seen a WM theme, but I have seen a blackberry theme, and a nexus one theme for the iphone.
I suppose the grass is always greener on the other side.
mystik610 said:
Even more ironic is that while everyone is downloading iPhone themes, there are plenty of iPhone users hacking their phones just to use other themes!
I've never seen a WM theme, but I have seen a blackberry theme, and a nexus one theme for the iphone.
I suppose the grass is always greener on the other side.
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watcher64 said:
No not really ...
Nobody here will deny the Iphone is kind of sexy ....
But it is like dating a cardboard cutout of a supermodel, looks great, but not much you can actually do with it ....
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ROFLMAO! Brilliant analogy!
Downloading and modifying it to look like an iPhone? Well I guess people do it 'caus they can, when they get tired of that FisherPrice look, they change it to something else.
Why should this be ironic? Having a WM is not about hating iPhones, it's about loving everything about phones and not only that shiny mirror-like reflection from it.
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...that iPhone is being mocked in this forum and yet in the very same forum there's an iPhone theme being praised and downloaded by many people?
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I wouldn't do with theme things like others. The iphone no doubt has a very very powerful os, it personally find it the best of all on earth, and it is so much better. And the theme is just making the HD2 look nicer, but not the performance we can have in Iphone which is the more important aspect how an iphone is. I really really want an iphone, but I choosed HD2 because I've been used to many useful apps with WM, and I've been really pissed off by the iphone built in battery. No doubt HD2 has very poor battery performance, but I can switch batteries all day long!
My point is, i would not put iphone theme to my HD2, because the slick looking theme is not at all the most important aspect of iphone, HD2 will never ever feel like an iphone even with 99% similar theme.
watcher64 said:
No not really ...
Nobody here will deny the Iphone is kind of sexy ....
But it is like dating a cardboard cutout of a supermodel, looks great, but not much you can actually do with it ....
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Wow!..........Well put!!
i have been selling phones for 9 years now for a uk major network i have seen phones go from 3310 to the super ericsson r390(ok not that good but changed phones forever) all the way to the phone4 and this is my take on things, iphone is one of the phones you love or hate, i have had one since day one but also used my touch pro more due to the fact that i can change things on it, eg themes and the like.
dont get me wrong apple did a super job with the iphone but they restrict everything unless u jailbreak it. then that causes issues with signal batt life, and frezzing. if only apple said its open for the owners to play with then it would get more of a like factor, instead people have them and get board with them, i was sick of the apple way (ether u like it how it is or buy something else) so i did and swopped it for a hd2, there has always been a apple v windows thing going and always will, but look at what it has done for the phone market.... android,web os,linux in genral on a phone would we have seen this sort of thing when the xda exec was out, no we wouldnt it was the iphone that opened peoples eyes to other things.
so in a way apple as made the other companys stand up and beat the iphone in the niche markets where apple cant go.
precsmo said:
I wouldn't do with theme things like others. The iphone no doubt has a very very powerful os, it personally find it the best of all on earth, and it is so much better. And the theme is just making the HD2 look nicer, but not the performance we can have in Iphone which is the more important aspect how an iphone is. I really really want an iphone, but I choosed HD2 because I've been used to many useful apps with WM, and I've been really pissed off by the iphone built in battery. No doubt HD2 has very poor battery performance, but I can switch batteries all day long!
My point is, i would not put iphone theme to my HD2, because the slick looking theme is not at all the most important aspect of iphone, HD2 will never ever feel like an iphone even with 99% similar theme.
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iPhone OS does not support multitasking unless you upgrade it to the latest OS4 which is still buggy. iPhone 3gs has no performance. The only reason for buying an iPhone is its abundant games availability.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg&playnext=1&videos=s-0BuGLhIus
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pretty old. there have been multiple threads. still hilarious though
Alright.
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what the ****
Awesome!... The perfect picture of the average iPhoney fanboy.
View 698, and still funny.
"It ****ing prints money!"
Check this iPhone 4S vs SGS3
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-S-III-vs-Apple-iPhone-4S_id3038
Pretty nice
SGS3 smokes the iPhone.
But I found it almost painful to watch, how this apple fanboy tries to find a positive aspect for his love.
It was nice to see how he destroyed the myth of easier use, when he showed the music player, or how you get movies on your device (pocket cinema)
Why not compare it with next iWhatever to be fare ?
We are basically comparing everything with iPhone4s and that itself says all ..
Strictly not apple or android fanboy as both have its own set of advantages and disadvantages
Sent from Galaxy Ace which just landed on "MOON"
"There shouldn't be any doubt that the iPhone 4S is the better-designed handset." I agree with that, although I know I should keep my mouth shut until I have actually held the SGS3 in my hands. But I do feel that the iPhone sports a well thought-out design, and it does feel premium, although it's kinda heavy for being a 3.5" device, no?
"Apart from its multimedia superiority, the Galaxy S III is also the better phone if you love tinkering with the software of your mobile device." Exactly. I have enjoyed my time with the iPhone, I really have, but it's getting boring now. I've had it for a year and now I want to tinker. I want to mod. I want to change icons and I want to flash kernels. I want to try out experimental ROMs that cause bootloops. I want that kind of fun back! I love the way you can truly personalize an Android device. I miss that and I want that back.
Winterboard, you say? Oh yay, I can choose from 2,000 ugly themes to apply, and they'll all make my phone slower and less responsive? GTFO...
Really though, what's so wrong with Ray S? I think the last two paragraphs in this review really say it all and I agree with what he writes 100%
The iPhone doesn't suck! It's a really good phone if you want that simplicity! Ray doesn't suck either! He awards points to BOTH phones and I think he did a good job with this.
The review was a total joke, since he deliberately didn't mention many advantages of the GS3.
Design - 'iPhone has more premium feel', but of course he didn't say how much more durable plastic is and how fragile iPhone is.
Keyboards - of course he didn't mention that Galaxy phones come with Swype, or that you can install a number of 3rd party keyboards compared to no choice on iOS.
I could go on but it was not a very fair review at all.
S2 and the Note beat IPhone 4s. S3 is way too better.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA
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That's the point. He's comparing it to a, frankly, outdated phone and still spinning it to prop them both up equally.
The 4S, after all, was really an incremental update from the year before; I don't think a comparison even deserves to be made (the only reason it even comes up is because the 4S is Apple, oh my).
Unfortunately, it's just not feasible to compare it to the next iPhone, for obvious reasons.
Android phones have set certain standards in the last year, that a new iphone has to match or they won't have a chance IMHo. Really interested to see what they do about the screen size and how they will handle he resolution dilemma.
The iPhone is beginning to look and feel really old by now.
Phone Arena has a bias toward iPhone, as seen in their S3 review, we have gone over this in the previous thread. I think to compare an iPhone to Android by itself is a stupid concept. I mean if you were to give me an iPhone 4S right now, what would I do with it? I can do more thing and have more fun with a used $120 Galaxy S variant, no exaggeration.
Kiahnlliya said:
"There shouldn't be any doubt that the iPhone 4S is the better-designed handset." I agree with that, although I know I should keep my mouth shut until I have actually held the SGS3 in my hands. But I do feel that the iPhone sports a well thought-out design, and it does feel premium, although it's kinda heavy for being a 3.5" device, no?
"Apart from its multimedia superiority, the Galaxy S III is also the better phone if you love tinkering with the software of your mobile device." Exactly. I have enjoyed my time with the iPhone, I really have, but it's getting boring now. I've had it for a year and now I want to tinker. I want to mod. I want to change icons and I want to flash kernels. I want to try out experimental ROMs that cause bootloops. I want that kind of fun back! I love the way you can truly personalize an Android device. I miss that and I want that back.
Winterboard, you say? Oh yay, I can choose from 2,000 ugly themes to apply, and they'll all make my phone slower and less responsive? GTFO...
Really though, what's so wrong with Ray S? I think the last two paragraphs in this review really say it all and I agree with what he writes 100%
The iPhone doesn't suck! It's a really good phone if you want that simplicity! Ray doesn't suck either! He awards points to BOTH phones and I think he did a good job with this.
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Kiahnlliya said:
I honestly don't get why people seem to be giving Ray S such a hard time... I actually like his reviews, both in written form and his videos as well... Maybe I just don't get it though!
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Issue i have with his every review is more of an opinion piece instead of an objective review. He has tendencies to amplify negatives that can be seen as positive things on non-apple devices.
also the conclusion that everyone who fits the criteria below to get an iphone? If he said things like ecosystem, itunes, etc then yeah i can see it but generalized conclusion that fits both device doesn't.
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Apparently, those guys would be the kind of users who don't really pay so much attention to their smartphone, but still want something that's contemporary and reliable. Are your needs limited to the basic phone stuff, surfing the web, occasional social network check and maybe even playing a game every now and then, but you have no intention of spending hours of rooting, flashing ROMs and searching for the ultimate widget set? Well, you guessed it you'll be better off with the iPhone 4S, as it's designed just for you, buddy.
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My response from the other thread
Samsung Galaxy S2 is better than iPhone 4S. But my favourite feature on iPhone 4S is Siri. But I still like the iPhone, after comparing them also.