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Will there be a forum for the samsung intercept?

Forum for samsung intercept
I can deal with the un-rooted version, because it's still a great phone for what you pay. However, I have the sprint version of the samsung intercept (assuming there's more than one carrier for this one), and I H-A-T-E all the crap that it comes preinstalled with. I hear people saying that these apps don't take any active RAM, but sysinfo and advanced task manager say otherwise..."sprint zone" is the most nefarious offender...if anyone would develop the root, I would L-O-V-E (guess I'm into spelling to-day) to donate to your efforts.
-Lukewarm Samsung Intercept user/loser.

I really hope we can get a forum for the intercept soon. I know the phone was cheap on contract but its not going to be worth it to me if no one works on a root! Maybe our prayers will be answered soon! *fingers crossed*
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PLEASE!!
I just got the samsung intercept and I want to root it.

It would be nice for the Samsung Intercept to have its on forum. The Kernel for it is already out. I don't see why we can't get a little section of our own too. :\

granted i know that this is the bottom of the line android phone but why is it no one will actually root it ? they have already rooted the evo,epic,droid,galaxy s ect..
why is it no one will actually take the time to root the intercept or the moment.
i'm sure it cant be too much different than rooting the epic.
people claim they are going to root it but no one follows through
i dont want to flash the rom

If there won't be a forum for it here, would it be okay for users to post links to sites that have a forum for interecept. I have many questions but no place to ask them and I don't want to fill this thread with them since they don't belong here.

The phone has been rooted now actually. If you go to the sdx developer site you'll see it.

I went there and read the instructions. I am going to try rooting it tonight. Do you know if the amon ra recovery image will work with it? If not, is there an alternative recovery image with similar functionality/options?

I have a friend who has the samsung intercept, and I rooted it using the new one click universal rooter, but it was only a partial root.. The phone is still virtually not rooted... (no Titanium, market access, busybox, tether, etc.) Please help me get this thing fully rooted. He is willing to donate 10 bucks or so.

Why are there no XDA Devs responding?
Weird, its like the twilight zone or something. No support for a newish device. There are far worse phones on here, so not sure what the deal is. Maybe they're all too busy with their sweet new Evo's and the like. I wouldn't want to spend too much time on this one either (I have an Evo), but given people are willing to donate, and aren't asking for anything more than [complete] root, I don't see why not.
I'd like to get this phone for my wife. She won't spend any money and I can get this one for free. I want her on an Android phone to facilitate some mobile functions between the two of us. I see no better way to do it (while staying with Sprint) than with the Instinct. Seems nice enough in the video reviews. She's still using her Instinct! ;-P

All I want is a working recovery. One where I can wipe and not brick this phone. It is possibly the worst piece of junk I've ever layed my hands on. I figured stock would be great for my fiancee, she knows nothing of rooting and wouldn't care if she did. However, the stock ROM that came with this was MISERABLE! (Virgin Mobile, btw, not sure if they did anything different from sprint other than differing bloatware.) That being said, I decided to root the thing for her and see if I would help with the lag issues and other things. Nothing did. All the custom ROMs had an issue where the phone would be so slow I had to pull the battery out to even use it again. It was as if the processor was running at 60MHz and wouldn't get any faster. Superuser would not request permissions for anything except root explorer - everything else automatically were granted access and did not show up in superuser's app list which can be VERY dangerous. Superuser also keept saying it needed to be updated no matter how many times I updated it. Andora ROM wouldn't allow the holding of the power button or it would freeze up. As a final issue, ADB wouldn't recognize it at all. I use ADB for my G2 all the time so I know what I'm doing and I know it's not my PC. It would recognize it in recovery but any command would fail and the device would become unrecognizable again until i issued "adb kill-server." Again, though, any command make the phone unrecognizable.
Now I like the phone for the budget qualities and virgin mobile's plans (great when you're super short on money) and the fact that they have an Android phone so you can still enjoy the greatness of Android on a budget, and I don't even want anything extreme out of this phone other than for it to just work like Android should.
Thank you to all the devs who have devved for this phone so far, and they've came a looooong way and I agree it's better than when I opened the box, but we need a working recovery at least. Yes, the recovery gets the job done but it needs some serious work and at least a working recovery. I think a lot of ROM issues come from not being able to wipe.
I'm not blaming any one for all my issues, I know the devs work hard for nothing but donations and I thank them greatly for that. Its not even really the custom ROMs as it is just the phone. I read up on it before purchasing and saw it had a good amount of RAM and a 800MHz processor and thought this phone was actually going to be able to compare to a G2 (speed-wise) but boy was I wrong. I'm feeling extreme buyers remorse and everything said above was just me getting it off my chest. I actually didn't plan to root it at all. My fiancee doesn't do anything really other than text, play some games, get on facebook, and occasionally look up things on google. The phone does all these extremely well but has so much instability in between doing these things that every time she picks it up it is unknown if she's going to be able to do any of them without the phone crashing or lagging so bad she has to pull the battery.
If we can get this phone running and VANILLA Android, such as cyanogenmod or just a goold-ol-fashioned AOSP build, I think it would be a great phone with much more potential is has now.

wait, so the intersept now has a forum, but not the TRANSFORM? messed up...

the intercept also has 2.2 as of today!!!!!!

r3s-rt said:
If we can get this phone running and VANILLA Android, such as cyanogenmod or just a goold-ol-fashioned AOSP build, I think it would be a great phone with much more potential is has now.
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r3s-rt - the biggest issue is samsung and their RFS filesystem and their proprietary drivers; which is a huge fail to porting over to AOSP or cyanogenmod... plus, there aren't that many devs (they're all working on the higher tiered phones...)

What file system would need to be used for it to be easiest?
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Froyo Update
My Samsung Intercept updated to Froyo 2.2 this morning.

I got pushed the 2.2 update but it failed due to my custom inxane recovery, going to revert it to stock and try it again my brothers is on 2.2 and it pushes the stock android theme as well so no more crappy customized theme!

Not sure if this is the place to ask this question, but I will go ahead. 2 Months ago I got the intercept with a new sprint contract. I instantly wanted to root it, but decided to wait for the froyo update. Well, now I have the official froyo update up and running (SOOOO much better!!!!) so I decided to work on rooting it. First problem I had was the USB drivers. over the course of about a week, I discovered that the drivers work fine so long as you don't plug it into your PC through a USB hub (internal OR external). I followed the instructions in sprintdroids. (I read the entire thread several times hoping to learn from other people's experience). I tried both the official samsung drivers and the ones posted with PDAnet. I also tried both the one click root listed elsewhere on this site as well as SuperOneClick. The one click root gave me the following output:
exploit and busybox made by joeykrim and one click installer made by noobnl
Press any key to continue . . .
copy and run the exploit (may take 2 minutes)
37 KB/s (0 bytes in 5392.000s)
0 KB/s (0 bytes in 88.000s)[*] CVE-2010-EASY Android local root exploit (C) 2010 by 743C[*] checking NPROC limit ...
[+] RLIMIT_NPROC={1344, 1344}[*] Searching for adb ...
[+] Found adb as PID 1892[*] Spawning children. Dont type anything and wait for reset![*][*] If you like what we are doing you can send us PayPal money to[*] [email protected] so we can compensate time, effort and HW costs.[*] If you are a company and feel like you profit from our work,[*] we also accept donations > 1000 USD![*][*] adb connection will be reset. restart adb server on desktop and re-login.
make it RW and move files
mount: Operation not permitted
failed to copy 'joeykrim-root.sh' to '/system/bin/joeykrim-root.sh': Read-only f
ile system
failed to copy 'jk-su' to '/system/bin/jk-su': Read-only file system
failed to copy 'playlogo-orig' to '/system/bin/playlogo-orig': Read-only file sy
stem
failed to copy 'playlogo' to '/system/bin/playlogo': Read-only file system
failed to copy 'busybox' to '/system/bin/busybox': Read-only file system
failed to copy 'resolv.conf' to '/system/bin/resolv.conf': Read-only file system
failed to copy 'remount' to '/system/bin/remount': Read-only file system
set permission
Unable to chmod /system/bin/joeykrim-root.sh: No such file or directory
Unable to chmod /system/bin/playlogo: Read-only file system
Unable to chmod /system/bin/busybox: No such file or directory
Unable to chmod /system/bin/remount: No such file or directory
Unable to chmod /system/bin/playlogo-orig: No such file or directory
push any key to reboot the phone
Press any key to continue . . .
Yes, USB debugging was ON and my screen was not locked.
SuperOneClick did nothing and said my phone was rooted. I am unable to perform any root functions (one touch reboot, delete bloatware, overclock, etc.) therefore I do not believe I am rooted.
I am running Windows XP Media Center Edition. I get the same results no matter which driver I use. Any suggestions?

The easiest way to get root right now would be to either use the one click that's available for the intercept over on sdx-developers.com or to flash a rooted kernel like slapkernel v1.1.
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[Q] what is the reason to root

What dose rooting do

That's quite an open question. General rule of thumb is, if there is something you need your tablet to do, and it can do it, but not from the factory, then you need root.
I've just now come across a situation where I need root... my SNES emulator does not read the external_sd folder, so the solution would be to mount that directory inside a folder that is readable by the emulator, like /sdcard/external_sd/, but that can only be done with root.

goochkaz said:
What dose rooting do
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The largest advantage to rooting your tab is you can use it as a remote global thermo nuclear weapon!
Do you know of anyone that you'd like to get rid of permanantly?
Root your device, set the timer, and leave it at their house.......and run like h3ll!

hack the heck out of it!!!!!

goochkaz said:
What dose rooting do
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It gives you administrative permissions to the device you bought. With stock OS you are limited as to what you can do with the device. Rooting opens the door to very wide almost limit free stage for your device. I personally do not root but so many others prefer it.
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It can make your phone/tablet/system unique... You can customize each and every aspect of your android gadget. It gives you the power (and the administrative rights) to do so.... BUT if you have no idea of what you're doing and/or what apps you install better leave it stock... It can easily render your tablet hard bricked...... forever......
IT IS NOT A TOY!!!!
sent from my CM7 nokia 3210

For me its all about backup and networking hacks

My initial reason was I needed my tablet to be able to access an AdHoc wireless network because that is what my phone sets up for its mobile hotspot. I have since moved on to many other uses. In fact if you wonder about these forums you will find that most of the really cool things seem to involve root access in some way or another.

seems like there are so many ways to root some say u need sim card other sayu dont I want to root was wondering the best way to do it I see so many cool thing I like on here they all need rooting so confusing

If you have the stock 3.2 software, then you follow the guides to downgrade to 3.01, root, then install the rooted 3.2 rom. If you're on software pre+3.2, use Iconiaroot

For me.. I initially "rooted" my tablet (hrmm.. that just feels so wrong to type..) simply because the latest OTA update was refusing to download and rather than stuff about trying to figure out why & work around it I figured it was just as easy to root & flash a new rom..
Since then though, I don't think I could live without it .. Loving the flexibility of being able to move away from the stock Acer set-up and run custom ROMS to suit my needs, to be able to overclock it, be able to browse/modify/etc as I please within the filesystem (of course, this is one of those situations in which at least a little understanding of what you're doing is vital - there's a good reason why they protect system files from the average user..) and just generally tinker with things!

I root because it is my tablet, I bought it so I can do with it what I want and not be limited by the vendor toughts. It is nice to overclock, use drivemount and connect ntfs HD to my tablet and watch the movies on it,titaniumbackup,cwm,nandroidbackup,etc......

civato said:
I root because it is my tablet, I bought it so I can do with it what I want and not be limited by the vendor toughts. It is nice to overclock, use drivemount and connect ntfs HD to my tablet and watch the movies on it,titaniumbackup,cwm,nandroidbackup,etc......
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All right !!!

had stock 3.2 and tryed iconia root didn't work but txs

goochkaz said:
had stock 3.2 and tryed iconia root didn't work but txs
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did you read the instructions on page 1?

a few questions about rooting

hello,
i am thinking about rooting my galaxy s3 T999.i was wondering what are some of the things you can do with a rooted phone?is it safe?i have the insurance on my phone.will this void my insurance in anyway if i needed to use it?if i download one of the custom roms with less bloatware will i be able to do everything i could with stock ROM.(games, internet etc).is there anything i cant do with a custom rom that i could do with stock?
sorry for being such a noob..
great site.

if i root and jelly been comes out for the galaxy s3 will i be able to upgrade without affecting my root or anything.

laprodigy001 said:
hello,
i am thinking about rooting my galaxy s3 T999.i was wondering what are some of the things you can do with a rooted phone?is it safe?i have the insurance on my phone.will this void my insurance in anyway if i needed to use it?if i download one of the custom roms with less bloatware will i be able to do everything i could with stock ROM.(games, internet etc).is there anything i cant do with a custom rom that i could do with stock?
sorry for being such a noob..
great site.
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Yes it is very safe. Simple too! It can be done under a minute. I rooted my phone using CF-root. Rooting voids your warranty though, but you can reset the flash counter with Triangle Away and they will be none the wiser. :3
Yeah custom ROMs can do everything a stock ROM can and more. You should not be missing any features.
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laprodigy001 said:
if i root and jelly been comes out for the galaxy s3 will i be able to upgrade without affecting my root or anything.
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I think you will have to reflash the root using mobile Odin. Not too sure. Maybe someone else can come here and verify.

laprodigy001 said:
i was wondering what are some of the things you can do with a rooted phone?
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This is a hard question to answer without just listing of the capabilities of applications that are available on Play. I will just mention what I know in a very basic way. It isn't all 100% technically correct, but if you know enough to say it isn't 100% then my explanation is probably not for you. =D
There are system level changes that can be made to your phone that are normally protected. Android, under the hood, has a file system and for all intents and purposes is very similar to what you see in Windows/OSX. It however, does not have a pretty graphical UI over it that is exposed to you by default.
Most of the system's settings and applications are stored very specific directories on the file system and by default you do not have the ability to directly change anything in those directories; this is done via permissions if you care to read more about it. When you are running your phone you are essentially running as a restricted user. When you root your phone you are giving yourself access to the 'root' user. On a Linux system that is essentially the account that is allowed to change and access anything on the file system; thus all the previous restrictions I mentioned are gone.
This gives you many abilities, some of which are trivial and some of which are not. Consider that as your non-rooted aka restricted user, you can not remove 'bloat ware' from your phone. Verizon is very notable for doing this. You essentially are not allowed by permissions to do so. However as root, you can delete whatever you want. Applications in Android are binary files with the *.apk extension and can be roughly (not always correctly) deleted by removing the *.apk file. You can also do things like directly read the *.apk files and upload them to another site as away to back up your applications (Titanium Backup). There are also more esoteric things like changing some of the settings file where where buffer sizes are kept for reads/writes, etc (SetCPU and flash 'overclocking' apps).
There are more such as wireless tethering (allowing your phone to act as an Wireless Access Point so your wireless desktop/laptop can use your 3g/2g/4g/etc data connection on the road), customizing the look and feel of the ui, etc.
laprodigy001 said:
is it safe?
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Yes and no, but mostly yes. I don't want to scare you, but rooting your phone opens your phone up to higher access by you and by the applications you install. You do have the ability to deny applications super user access, but if you do you do need to realize that super user granted application will have unrestricted access to your phone and data. So only do it for applications where you can verify the application your self or trust the publisher.
The actual root process is generally 'revertible'. By revertible I mean that you will be able unroot/get your phone into a working status, but you will most likely lose any data that is stored only on your phone. You can however back data up to other sources prior to doing anything potentially risky. By the time a guide is posted for a newer user to follow, the process has been tested to a level where it won't outright damage your phone on physical level. Usually anything wonky can be fixed by flashing a stock ROM (which yes does include losing all of your data unless you back it up somewhere). Be aware that the first time you do this you will probably be looking at investing time into learning jargon and programs you've never heard of before. It can be daunting, but most of the guides are posted in step-by-step format.
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is there anything i cant do with a custom rom that i could do with stock?
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They will have the same abilities. Some stock ROMs come with carrier (e.g. Verizon, Sprint, etc) applications that will most likely not be present on the custom ROM. However most of the time if you really want them you can still in stall them and they will work. I am not currently aware any that don't.

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.... you can reset the flash counter with Triangle Away and they will be none the wiser. :3...
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FYI, Its been discussed countless times, in countless threads, Triangle Away does NOT work for any US variant of the GS3 currently, and its author says he most likely wont be making it work, either. Maybe someday someone will get it to work, but as of right now, no.

[Q] Nexus 7: A Beginners Quest!

Hi guys!
I bought a Nexus 7 a few days ago, This is my first Android device, my first tablet and my first attempt at rooting anything. so I was hoping for some help from the experienced folks because frankly i don't know what I'm doing I was hoping you could help me with a sort of beginners guide for rooting, like what i should look out for, whats the safest and easiest toolkit, rom, kernel to use. I know i have so much to learn from you guys and I've been reading some of the threads and im starting to get a bit of it already just asking for a step by step of what i should do im mainly going to use my tablet for torrents, games, and some light photo editing and lots of comics! so how do i start? hope to hear from you guys soon THANKS IN ADVANCE!

For rooting the tablet ..its safe ,the important thing is to follow the instructions .so to root it you can use one of the toolkits in the development section,I preferred wugfresh toolkit more ..but its up to you the other one is also good ... Here's a video which explains the root procedure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI0_ylxyrWA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
btw update your phone before rooting it
And for flashing Roms there are a lots of guides on how to do it..just use Google
If you got stuck in any boot loops just use the toolkit you first used, to restore to stock or restore with a nandroid backup
Most important thing when you root. before touching a file ..do a nandroid backup in recovery to always stay safe ..
That's it enjoy the forums
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium

BigJoey010 said:
For rooting the tablet ..its safe ,the important thing is to follow the instructions .so to root it you can use one of the toolkits in the development section,I preferred wugfresh toolkit more ..but its up to you the other one is also good ... Here's a video which explains the root procedure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI0_ylxyrWA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
btw update your phone before rooting it
And for flashing Roms there are a lots of guides on how to do it..just use Google
If you got stuck in any boot loops just use the toolkit you first used, to restore to stock or restore with a nandroid backup
Most important thing when you root. before touching a file ..do a nandroid backup in recovery to always stay safe ..
That's it enjoy the forums
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
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well said, but here are some more tips: DO NOT PANIC!! when something goes wrong, which is likely, as you are a newbie to rooting, one thing you must not do is panic. calm down and troubleshoot, what did i do wrong? how do i fix it? and according to my experience, whenever a door slams shut behind you, a new window opens. if one method doesn't work, try another method.
also, read through the entire procedure list before start doing the steps. make sure you understand what is required and how to do it before accidentally doing something stupid. believe me, its happened to me b4, not a pleasant experience when you realise you dont actually meet the criteria to install something. btw, here is a list of common names given to the nexus 7: Nexus 7 (duh!), N7, grouper (wifi only) Tilapia (wifi+3g)
good luck rooting!

Read through the stickied threads and try to understand them. It won't happen right away though; your head will probably spin the first couple of times through.
There is really no "overnight" learning curve to this stuff - even if you are an old hand with Linux/Unix.
BTW, it is important to point something out: There should be no reason for you to feel like you should be in a hurry to root. The N7 is a fantastic device, even when used in a pure stock experience.. You are not going to be missing out by not rooting immediately. Spend some time with your device getting used to the Android way of doing things, and start reading XDA with a relaxed frame of mind. There is plenty of time. It would be different if you have lots of prior Android experience - but you said it - this is your first Android device.
OK, rooting. To try and keep you safe while you are a noob, I'll give this recommendation:
If you see the word "flash" (verb) near the word "bootloader", RUN AWAY!.
The most dangerous thing you can do to an N7 is mess around with the bootloader. You can turn your device into a useless object by getting things wrong, and it is a little bit rare that you need to flash a bootloader anyway. You have been warned.
So, make sure you know the difference between bootloader and "boot partition".
Most Android devices have a single flash memory chip in them which is divided up into a number of partitions. There are 5 principal partitions and about the same number of less frequently used partitions:
THE 5 PRINCIPAL ANDROID PARTITIONS:
(B) boot - a raw blob of binary data containing a "kernel" and a "ramdisk"
(B) recovery - another raw blob of binary data containing a "kernel" and a "ramdisk"
(F) system - The "ROM" part of Android - all the factory (or customized) software, used read-only
(F) data - User data and customizations. A "factory reset" simply erases all the files here
(F) cache - a scratch area used for downloading files and other maintenance operations
B = binary, bootable
F = Filesystem
Now, the two bootable partitions - boot and recovery - are very similar in structure, but extremely different in purpose. (In fact, in stock devices, they both use a private copy of the same kernel) The "boot" partition can produce a UI (User Interface) after it starts up only in conjunction with healthy /system and /data filesystems containing the Android software. But the "recovery" partition can produce a minimal UI even if the /data and /system filesystems are completely empty of files; so it (the recovery boot) is used to do all maintenance operations - including things like installing new /system software or erasing all user data.
So, and Android "rooter" will usually replace the very minimal (and locked-down-security) stock recovery partition with a "custom recovery" that is more friendly, and the vast amount of the "flashing" operations will take place using this custom recovery.
When people talk about "ROMs", they generally mean only TWO of those five partitions mentioned above: the "boot" partition and the "system" partition. When a "ROM" is flashed using the system partition, the usual procedure is:
- The rooter makes a full Nandroid backup.
- The rooter performs a "factory reset" procedure which erases the /data*** and /cache filesystems
- The rooter then "flashes a ROM", which puts in place a new boot partition, erases the /system partition, and then re-populates the /system partition with changed Android system software.
Upon booting an Android phone/tablet after this procedure, the device will behave as if it just came from the factory - but now with a different custom version of Android software. Note that this means that all the things you customized in the previous ROM - wallpapers, settings, home screen app icons, widgets, market apps downloaded, etc - will all be gone. So, folks that make a habit of hopping from ROM to ROM generally have some tricks up their sleeves for making the re-customization of a freshly-installed ROM a little less tedious. (Things like using custom launchers that allow you to save homescreen customizations, apps to restore previously-used market apps & their data, etc, etc, etc)
*** there is some funny business with Android devices that have no removable SDcard storage devices such as the Nexus 7 - the user's "SD card" is emulated, and the files that are stored there are actually stored in the /data filesystem. So, custom recoveries usually have a "factory reset" procedure which deletes all files in /data while scrupulously avoiding erasing things in this /sdcard area ( == /data/media ). This allows you to keep things safe from wiping (pictures, music, ROM files, backups) while still installing a fresh and un-initialized ROM. Note that the stock recovery in the N7 does not do this - when you use the "factory reset" of the stock recovery, EVERYTHING in /data gets erased - everything!
While you are reading about Android, here are some questions/searches to look up that concern rooting activities... have fun!
- What is the difference between grouper/tilapia (or nakasi/nakasig )?
- What does it mean to "install a new launcher" or "install a new home app"?
- What is Android fastboot used for?
- What is the Android ADB (Android Device Bridge) program used for?
- What is the difference between a boot image and a bootloader?
- How do I go about making a Nandroid Backup?
- What are the Carbon and Titanium Backup apps for? What can they do?
- What file browsers on the market are "root aware"?
- What Android settings can be saved by the Google Play Store, and automatically restored into a new ROM?
- Is there a difference between the "Superuser" and "SuperSU" root kits?
- What are the special Hardware Button Combinations used by the Nexus 7?
- What is the Google Android SDK?
- What custom recoveries are available for the Nexus 7?
- How many unique operating modes does the Nexus 7 bootloader display? What are they called?
- What is a MD5 signature? How can it help me stay out of trouble?
- What does soft-booting a bootable image with fastboot do?
- How many (Windows PC) drivers are needed to use ADB (with both the custom recovery and also the regular OS) and fastboot (with the bootloader), 2 or 3?
- Suppose I soft-brick my N7 - how will I transfer files to and from the N7 in this situation?
- What is the difference between adb push/pull and adb sideload?
- What does "sideloading an app" mean?
- Is an Android ".apk" file the same thing as a .zip file, or different?
- In what folder in /data are market apps (.apk files) found? Same question for /system and system apps (.apk files)?
- How do I enable the developer options on my N7 tablet?
- What are the limitations of MTP or PTP file transfer modes?
- Where does the custom recovery tool store backups?
- Are the Android tools "adb" and "fastboot" available for Mac or Linux?
- What are the limitations of the Google Factory Images for the Nexus 7? How are they installed?
- I have a problem using the recovery. Where is the log file stored?
- What is the big stumbling block involved in unlocking the N7 bootloader?
- What operations can you perform using fastboot and the bootloader which you can not do any other way?
OK, that's enough for now.

Thanks Everyone!
bftb0 said:
Read through the stickied threads and try to understand them. It won't happen right away though; your head will probably spin the first couple of times through.
There is really no "overnight" learning curve to this stuff - even if you are an old hand with Linux/Unix.
BTW, it is important to point something out: There should be no reason for you to feel like you should be in a hurry to root. The N7 is a fantastic device, even when used in a pure stock experience.. You are not going to be missing out by not rooting immediately. Spend some time with your device getting used to the Android way of doing things, and start reading XDA with a relaxed frame of mind. There is plenty of time. It would be different if you have lots of prior Android experience - but you said it - this is your first Android device..
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I do appreciate everyones input! yeah i think ill make do with the stock for a couple weeks while i study up on rooting and firmwares. well the main reason i wanted to root was for the games, as much as i want to buy the games i like, i dont have the means to

This is great. Wish I had been fortunate enough to have such great help when I first started.
And the most important rule is the one about reading before you root or flash. This will save you some heartache down the road.
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How's rooting related to games ? You mean overclocking ?
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BigJoey010 said:
How's rooting related to games ? You mean overclocking ?
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sad to say i will have to torrent my games as much as i wanna pay and support the game devs i already blew all my money on steam and buying the N7. ive read somewhere that if u are using the the stock version and you try to run a torrented game it automatically shuts down

No it doesn't ...i be downloaded tons of games(torrents) and I'm on stock and they are working normally
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UrbabBear said:
sad to say i will have to torrent my games as much as i wanna pay and support the game devs i already blew all my money on steam and buying the N7. ive read somewhere that if u are using the the stock version and you try to run a torrented game it automatically shuts down
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All the help you were given....then you bring this up.
I doubt further help will come your way as pirating software is very much frowned upon at xda.
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kj2112 said:
All the help you were given....then you bring this up.
I doubt further help will come your way as pirating software is very much frowned upon at xda.
Sent from my cell phone telephone....
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i never really liked pirating software...believe me im a huge fan of steam and i practically buy alll my games legit for the pc.. since steam wallet codes are available at a local store here.. okay i promise i wont pirate and ill try to look for the means to buy from the google store , the thing is i dont have a credit card... and i dont know if google has have something equivalent to steam wallet cards for the google play store.. i could borrow a cc and pay for it.. but is the google play store a safe place to purchase ? i nkow some people disputing alot of charges from google play to everyone, i meant no disprespect.. i was thinking along the lines of test the game if there is no lite version, then when i can i will buy the game :< im still new to the whole tablet arena and im gonna need all the help that i can get

UrbabBear said:
i never really liked pirating software...believe me im a huge fan of steam and i practically buy alll my games legit for the pc.. since steam wallet codes are available at a local store here.. okay i promise i wont pirate and ill try to look for the means to buy from the google store , the thing is i dont have a credit card... and i dont know if google has have something equivalent to steam wallet cards for the google play store.. i could borrow a cc and pay for it.. but is the google play store a safe place to purchase ? i nkow some people disputing alot of charges from google play to everyone, i meant no disprespect.. i was thinking along the lines of test the game if there is no lite version, then when i can i will buy the game :< im still new to the whole tablet arena and im gonna need all the help that i can get
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a good way to get started is to get yourself a prepaid credit card from 7eleven and use that for purchases from the play store.

Billchen0014 said:
a good way to get started is to get yourself a prepaid credit card from 7eleven and use that for purchases from the play store.
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as much as that service would be convenient its not available in my country thanks! i hope somebody brings it here ... i found a workaround already now just a matter of saving up for the good apps! so in the mean time lite versions here i come!

UrbabBear said:
as much as that service would be convenient its not available in my country thanks! i hope somebody brings it here ... i found a workaround already now just a matter of saving up for the good apps! so in the mean time lite versions here i come!
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http://play.google.com/about/giftcards/ use this to see if any retailers near you sell.
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Hey guys, what do you think are the most basic and necessary apps that i should get ? running on stock
, ive checked some and go a file manager

If you think you are going to root down the road...
If you think there is a good chance that you are going to root down the road, I would suggest unlocking the bootloader in the near future. You'll need to do this and it wipes everything on the tablet. Even if you don't root, there's isn't any major downside to having the bootloader unlocked and you can always relock it later.
It's better to do that before you've put a lot of time into customizing your tablet to perfection and then have to redo it all.

[4.4.4] Sony RIC KILLER

I have modified zxz0O0's script for rooting to just kill the SONY RIC, not upload towelroot and stuff.
This is so you can mount /system, modify platform.xml to have full access to microSD, install xposed, etc.
It works OK (as far as I can tell, I am not an expert).
CHANGELOG:
Version 2:
Removed even more unnecessary files
Here is the file [UPDATED]:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4aBOrwRL1VMeVUwcFNtNEZnRHc/view?usp=sharing
Many thanks to zxz0O0 for guidance.
Mirror if you want.
Enjoy.

Pc o recovery?

PC. Windows only.

Anyone who can confirm it working? And with no extra features.. Malware etc?

Sorry for my ignorance....but can anyone explain what RIC is and why do we want to kill it ???

forty two said:
I have modified zxz0O0's script for rooting to just kill the SONY RIC, not upload towelroot and stuff.
This is so you can mount /system, modify platform.xml to have full access to microSD, install xposed, etc.
It works OK (as far as I can tell, I am not an expert).
Here is the file:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4aBOrwRL1VMLWJyWWFuTE9qZlE/view?usp=sharing
Mirror if you want.
Enjoy.
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Can I ask what is RIC?
So is this the exploit to install supersu on 4.4.4?

cynosure4sure said:
Sorry for my ignorance....but can anyone explain what RIC is and why do we want to kill it ???
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tleung11 said:
Can I ask what is RIC?
So is this the exploit to install supersu on 4.4.4?
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HellRoot said:
Anyone who can confirm it working? And with no extra features.. Malware etc?
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Here it goes.
As far as I know, Sony RIC is a kernel module that manages security, but somebody may correct me on that.
The "/system" partition i.e. folder on a Sony Xperia phone cannot be written to, if you don't disable it.
Without writing to the /system, you cannot:
Modify the .xml that enables apps to write to the microSD card, which is disabled by default in kitkat (look at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix).
Install the xposed framework
Modify files in the /system partition for any other purposes.
The usage is as follows:
Get a ftf file for your Z2
Modify it using PRFCreator by using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/general/4-4-4-creating-rooted-update-package-t2933155
Flash the phone using the recovery with the generated .zip file.
Make sure USB debugging is enabled on your phone, together with Allow mock locations (in Developer options), and that you have adb etc. istalled
Plug the phone, say yes to USB debugging query.
Run the script to kill RIC.
Enjoy.

forty two said:
Here it goes.
As far as I know, Sony RIC is a kernel module that manages security, but somebody may correct me on that.
The "/system" partition i.e. folder on a Sony Xperia phone cannot be written to, if you don't disable it.
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You Sir are a gentleman and a scholar.

newb-asking-stuff-now^^
Hi there,
Im planing to do this "make ur own pre-rooted update" thing for my Z2 to get this annoying "there is an update available" message away, and maybe it also offers some nice features^^
the thing is this Z2 is my first smartphone in general (tried them in the first gen and hated those commercial-bombers xD so it took me a long while to give it a new try)
so Im not very much into rooting and so on.... I dont even know exactly how I managed to root my actual phone xD but yeah anyhow I did it with a tutorial from xda.....
what i want to ask is.... is this ric-killing really needed? as I said I dunno how exactly I did root for my 4.4.2 but I never had issues with using my SD-card or such..... never heard bout RIC before this thread here aswell.....
what is this for and does everyone need this?
....atleast how does it come that this seems to be needed with the 4.4.4 but wasnt needed on 4.4.2? or why did I never hear bout it?
(my root went something like this: using any batch-file, flashing triple-recovery twpr, cwm, and something I dont remember^^ after that rebooting several times and again flashing something from recovery.... but never there was something stated like RIC.... only TA-Backup had to be made tough Locked bootloader as this scares the **** out of me xD)

Will this work on any Sony device or just Z2?

XenoZirrka said:
Hi there,
Im planing to do this "make ur own pre-rooted update" thing for my Z2 to get this annoying "there is an update available" message away, and maybe it also offers some nice features^^
the thing is this Z2 is my first smartphone in general (tried them in the first gen and hated those commercial-bombers xD so it took me a long while to give it a new try)
so Im not very much into rooting and so on.... I dont even know exactly how I managed to root my actual phone xD but yeah anyhow I did it with a tutorial from xda.....
what i want to ask is.... is this ric-killing really needed? as I said I dunno how exactly I did root for my 4.4.2 but I never had issues with using my SD-card or such..... never heard bout RIC before this thread here aswell.....
what is this for and does everyone need this?
....atleast how does it come that this seems to be needed with the 4.4.4 but wasnt needed on 4.4.2? or why did I never hear bout it?
(my root went something like this: using any batch-file, flashing triple-recovery twpr, cwm, and something I dont remember^^ after that rebooting several times and again flashing something from recovery.... but never there was something stated like RIC.... only TA-Backup had to be made tough Locked bootloader as this scares the **** out of me xD)
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Not really needed, no. But if you want your navigation software (Sygic, Here maps etc) or custom cameras (from the playstore) to save files to the microSD, it becomes necessary. Thank Google for instituting the silly policy with KitKat. I think they reverted it in Lollipop.

chesterr said:
Will this work on any Sony device or just Z2?
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I am not sure. I made it for the Z2 and used it on my Z2, but the original script was supposed to work on multiple Sony devices (so it says).
So maybe you could give it a try, and report back?

forty two said:
I am not sure. I made it for the Z2 and used it on my Z2, but the original script was supposed to work on multiple Sony devices (so it says).
So maybe you could give it a try, and report back?
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Hey bro, It works perfectly fine. I tested it on Z1C and it worked perfectly. :highfive:

just for complete understatement...
So I am actually in lack of some kind of permission as I never did this with my actual ROM? Would this allow me to move apps and just everything I desire and manage to turn on rwrwrw on the external SD?
(or is this not even part of ROM? Im not even clear bout whats included in kernel or ROM, and no idea what exactly is contained in firmware then xD anyhow I know ofcourse what those are but just can never find a explanation what differs those wich I could remember^^ Isnt it in principal all of them are part of the ReadOnlyMemory?)
Tough Im able to use foldermount and link2sd?
is this here then only usefull for "regular.no.root.required.apps" wich dont take advantage of su, or how does it come, that I read bout this kitkat.sd.killing.move but still never found the phrase RIC on my huge googling.expiditions....
(luckily knew this before purchase of a 128gb card and could go for the smaller 32gb wich is more than enough for pictures music and vids xD)

Works perfectly. I was upgraded to 4.4.4 via OTA and I was able to save the root but I wasn't able to mount system r/w. Now everything works perfectly.

XenoZirrka said:
So I am actually in lack of some kind of permission as I never did this with my actual ROM? Would this allow me to move apps and just everything I desire and manage to turn on rwrwrw on the external SD?
(or is this not even part of ROM? Im not even clear bout whats included in kernel or ROM, and no idea what exactly is contained in firmware then xD anyhow I know ofcourse what those are but just can never find a explanation what differs those wich I could remember^^ Isnt it in principal all of them are part of the ReadOnlyMemory?)
Tough Im able to use foldermount and link2sd?
is this here then only usefull for "regular.no.root.required.apps" wich dont take advantage of su, or how does it come, that I read bout this kitkat.sd.killing.move but still never found the phrase RIC on my huge googling.expiditions....
(luckily knew this before purchase of a 128gb card and could go for the smaller 32gb wich is more than enough for pictures music and vids xD)
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But in future with Lollipop update, I think Sony will let us move apps to SD, in AOSP(CM) builds they have the option to move the apps to SD.

So I discoverd now whats this for, I found out if an app wich doesnt make use of SU wants to write on SD it fails.... I didnt get it cuz I just let make apps use of SD wich anywaye do use SU ....
Only thing Im still wondering about is why can the stock foto.app (sony) write to SD1 and other apps can not? As I know sony.foto never asked for root.permissions^^

Trouble with Google
I have used your software and my phone is full rooted. Unfortunately, OK Google won't work anymore and when I speak, it did't search. What should I do now? Sorry for my bad English.

so, can you explain step by step how to use this?

Working great on D5803 with FW .77
forty two said:
I have modified zxz0O0's script for rooting to just kill the SONY RIC, not upload towelroot and stuff.
This is so you can mount /system, modify platform.xml to have full access to microSD, install xposed, etc.
It works OK (as far as I can tell, I am not an expert).
CHANGELOG:
Version 2:
Removed even more unnecessary files
Many thanks to zxz0O0 for guidance.
Mirror if you want.
Enjoy.
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Thank you so much. /system could not be mounted in r/w after upgrading my D5803 (Z3 compact) from .93 to .77 and nothing else seemed to work, until a found your utility. Thanks! :highfive: