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[Samsung Moment] Root Instructions

EDIT: This information is out dated now but visit the link below for updated info.
taken from here http://www.samsungmomentforum.com/rooting/root-access-(finally-achieved!)/
1) Partition your SD Card to have first partition as fat16 and second ext3 [this tutorial assumes you have this setup exactly as stated]
2) Boot in Test Mode with Call+Center+Power
3) copy root into your tools directory of the sdk
4) adb push root /system
5) adb shell chmod 0755 /system/root
6) adb shell /system/root
7) unplug usb, remove battery, reboot into test mode when instructed
8) adb shell
9) /system/bin/btld_testmode
10) /system/root

Excellent. It work!. Just do exatly the steps above. Thanks for putting all this info together.
FYI... Samsung post the source code of the samsung moment.

Is this temp or persistent root? For temp root I don't think partitioning the sd card is necessary or at least I didn't partition it when I temp rooted my Moment.

Was a long time WinMo user, I was stuck with a Moto Q9c on sprint for way to long. I'm still stuck with sprint, but got the Moment in hopes of having a badass Android to start with.
Night and Day compared to my Q, the root is key though, custom rom's were so easy on the Q.
soooo im a newb to android, same question as johnbarry3434.
does it stick?
I've got two Moment's(thanks sprint for shipping me 2 and charging me for neither) ?maybe one for test purposes?
Anything I can do to help the rooting process, please let me know

Sorry guys but I'm very new to this android. Only had my phone for a week now. Is rooting like flashing a custom ROM for the Touch Pro?

Does this require seperate adb drivers for the Samsung phone?? If so where can I get them and are there any avaliable for Ubuntu???

Hi guys,
I have just gotten myself a Samsung Spica. Can I use this guide as well? Is there a ROM-update tool for the Spica?
I'm really n00b, so any help is appreciated

I need someone with this rooted phone to contact me, I need to get some data from it so I can work on something for it.
Please contact me at [email protected]
Thanks

hey look i am brand new to this whole root thing i just got my moment two days ago i am used to the simple jailbreak iphone stuff but this is a whole new level
i am on windows vista and i do not understand any of this at all please someone email me some simpler instructions or make a video or something just to help me out in some way please and thank you
my email: [email protected]

use the search Service people

Now that moment is rooted?
Will there be any chance of us getting a custom rom of andorid using sense ui?
i dont really see any point in rooting my phone if there is no MAJOR thing you can do with it..

I cannot get my samsung to root
I have the updated cupcake cl14 and when I boot my phone with talk+center+power, I boot into a test mode that lets me test the screen, keyboard, and so on. I did copy the root file (supplied from the instructions ) to the main part of my card on both partitions, and partitioned it just as it stated in the 1st step. I don't understand what the "adb" is and how to use it. Can this only be down with windows because I'm am using Ubuntu. I know adb is advance debugging bridge but after some google searches I still don't know how to use it. I now a little about chmod 0755 because of Ubuntu but any "hand-holding" instructions would be great thankyou to everyone who is willing to help me and others out with this problem.

Is there still no "real" benefit for root access for the Moment? As in no good reason to root the phone? My girlfriend has one and I was hoping that it was at least close behind my Hero by now in terms of root access benefits....TIA

bbv203 said:
Is there still no "real" benefit for root access for the Moment? As in no good reason to root the phone? My girlfriend has one and I was hoping that it was at least close behind my Hero by now in terms of root access benefits....TIA
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try this
http://forum.samdroid.net/threads/13-How-to-get-Root-on-Samsung-i5700-EN-02-10-v-LK10

just got my phone and can't increase the size of the fonts was told rooting is the only way even with using spare parts.
first of what program can I use to partition the sd card I am running windows XP. and everything I have downloaded today would only see the internal drive.

For those of you still looking for how to root your Samsung Moment (you don't have to use your SDCard either) there are two HOW TOs posted at PPCGeeks under the NON-WM DEVICES>ANDRIOD>SAMSUNG MOMENT
One explains how to root phone with CJ05
The other explains how to root phones that have CL14 out-the-box or officially updated to CL14
I would post a link except I'm not permitted to post an outside link... just go to PPCGeeks(dot)com and click on their forum

So what Now!!!!
Okay I see you have this placed here.. I like... I have a Nexus and 2 Droids, wife and mine.. Nexus ALL mine.. HAHAHA..
My sister, wifes sister, she has the Moment.. I have always wanted to root this just cause of the 800mhz processor... This was the first device to almost meet up with the Nexus before it was even thought up..
Is there Roms, Themes, Kernels, etc.. I see nothing, but a root, useless, without an accommodation, thanks anyway, always good to have the key to the door first..
Somebody, PM me if not on, or reply here, I'll come back around...

cool that i made the front page but the info is out dated now.

yes this info is way outdated. just flash the kernel with speedyrabbit's or joeykrim's kernel and you'll have persistent root, plus a much faster phone.

also, speedyrabbit's kernel has wifi tether and flash_image support. you can download from www(dot)sdx-developers(dot)com.

[Q] New to Root

So, I used to run WinMo way back when, and I'm familiar with flashing, HardSPL, blah blah blah, whatevs. I haven't done the rooting process yet on my phone because I'm finding it hard to find a few key things that I need.
-What is the effect on my phone when I root, in regards to data? Do I need to backup? If so, can I backup on my SD card or is everything wiped? What program could I use to backup?
-Are there any crazy little tweaks or tips that anyone has to help guard against a brick?
-I've read the pros and cons list, but can I get more details from someone? Can this help with battery life, allow me to flash my radio, increase general connectivity, etc.
All help would be greatly appreciated, and I'll plan on doing a donation today. I've just been out of the loop (running WinMo 6.5 style out of the loop:/) so some advice to a rook would be great. My goal is to get out of school and come home and root and fiddle with things with little to no problems. Thanks a ton everyone.
Dig Life!
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The process of actually rooting doesn't mess with any of your stuff.
I use Titanium Backup to restore apps after flashing roms.
In general, most of this stuff COULD help your battery life, here there are Devs that will help - with sprint you get their tech support.

Well, I DL'ed TB and it says that I have to root first? Am I missing something here? Is it ok to root or will it delete all of my apps and what not? I mean, if it does, it isn't really that big of a deal, considering I can just download them again, I'm just looking for input.

copsgottanks said:
Well, I DL'ed TB and it says that I have to root first? Am I missing something here? Is it ok to root or will it delete all of my apps and what not? I mean, if it does, it isn't really that big of a deal, considering I can just download them again, I'm just looking for input.
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I'm pretty new, too, but I think I can answer your questions. Rooting (at least with the One Click Method I used on my Epic) doesn't destroy any data/apps on your phone. It simply gives your user root access to the underlying OS. Once that is achieved, you can modify things and tweak things. Titanium Backup will let you backup all system files and data, but only AFTER rooting.
This is not a ROM flash or anything like that from the WinMo days. I haven't gotten that far on Android, so I'm not sure what the flashing options are yet, but rooting is harmless on its own. It will let you royally screw things up though, so once it is done, be careful what you do.

Well, I tried to do a few things like listed in the One-Click root thread, but I guess I'm just not getting it. Now that I know the effects of the root, I'd like to be able to actually do it, but I don't have enough details. I haven't ever rooted before, and I'm finding it confusing. What was listed in the one-click thread wasn't specific enough for me, I don't know if I need to run from SD card, what the ADB thing is, nothing. I was a WinMo master and I'm finally coming to Android which is literally worlds away from my comfortable norm.

what os are you running? the one click comes with everything you need. theres an osx version the windows version that noobnl updates and the linux version i maintain

I'm on Windows 7 64 bit. But I still can't get any of the one click stuff to work, I don't really know what exactly to do

copsgottanks said:
I'm on Windows 7 64 bit. But I still can't get any of the one click stuff to work, I don't really know what exactly to do
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I wouldn't exactly call root harmless..in itself it is ok..but if you give root access to a program that program has FULL access to your system..aka anything inputed on your phone or stored on your phone can be accessed by the program with root access. Though generally its not a problem..just careful which programs you allow to use root access.
Also, at what point are you getting stuck? did you install the drivers? are you getting any sort of errors or etc?

There is also some good reading over at SDX Developers.
I have hacked and rooted before, WinMo, Palm, HTC Hero, but this one was tough. It basically took me two days off and on, but it worked - finally.
Downloading drivers is a b--h, they are finicky and I needed all of them, kept
hanging on 2. They are slow, and kept looking for sources.
Search here, there is good info, then look there (above) I used OneClickExploit 2.2.4 which finally worked. It had some of the same files
in other methods, but this one worked.
I'm not changing roms, did on Hero to 2.2 because they weren't getting upgrade but I'm just going to hang and wait for Froyo.
Good luck

copsgottanks said:
I'm on Windows 7 64 bit. But I still can't get any of the one click stuff to work, I don't really know what exactly to do
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Download and unzip the one-click archive in to a folder. Double-click the run.bat. I had some problems where it would start and then hang. I often had to kill it and rerun the batch file. Sometimes I had to end task on the adb.exe process. Eventually after rebooting the phone, etc, I was able to get it to work. Not sure what the exact problem was. I think part of it was connectivity to the phone via usb. Connect through a port on your computer, not a hub.
Also, the batch file is just a bunch of commands. You can open a command line in the folder where the batch file is and run each line in the batch file individually from the command line. That will give you some idea of what is happening and where it might be failing.
Like I said, I had to stop and restart a bunch of time before it finally got through to the end of the batch file correctly. When it did, it was fast. Not sure what was happening.

gTen said:
I wouldn't exactly call root harmless..in itself it is ok..but if you give root access to a program that program has FULL access to your system..aka anything inputed on your phone or stored on your phone can be accessed by the program with root access. Though generally its not a problem..just careful which programs you allow to use root access.
Also, at what point are you getting stuck? did you install the drivers? are you getting any sort of errors or etc?
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When I try to install the drivers I get this message:
"The MSS InstallWizard was not Completed for SAMSUNG USB Driver for Mobile Phones V1.3.450.0
The MSS InstallWizard was not successfully installed SAMSUNG USB Driver for Mobile Phones V1.3.450.0. Click Finish to exit the wizard.
And I'm basically stuck there. I've searched around and can't find any drivers that will work. Like I said, I'm on 64-bit Windows 7 with a clean OS and no previous negative install history. Not sure what the issue could be?

Found the drivers and everything that I needed and I'm rooted, but now I have one more question. I don't plan on flashing any roms, I'm alright with the stock rom, at least for now. I wanted to know what rooting will do in regards to over the air updates on my phone. Will I be able to OTA to FroYo when released? Any info would be great guys, thanks.

where did you find the drivers? I am having the exact same problem that you had where the installwizard cannot download finish installing the drivers for whatever reason

[Q] Rooting the GT 10.1 via a Mac??

So I've poured over the potentially relevant threads and I haven't found anything about how to go about rooting the Tab on a Mac. I've rooted a Xoom on a Mac before, which was no problem using adb, but does adb recognize the Tab as a device (given the lack of Mac file reading compatibility otherwise) or is there another trick I'll need to know? Obviously at some point I'd need the new Kies for Mac, but is this all I'll need in order for adb to work? The only guides I've seen pertain to rooting through a PC, which is no help to me unfortunately. I don't have my Tab yet, but I was hoping to get a feel for what lies ahead once it arrives.

Please do not Post Questions in the Development forum thanks

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Please do not Post Questions in the Development forum thanks
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IT WAS A DEVELOPMENT (ROOTING) QUESTION, not a general question, so now its in a less appropriate place, but whatever

Anybody?

Regardless if it was a rooting question. Development forums are for development releases like kernels, roms, mod instructions. Questions are asked in the General forum.
As for your question:
In order to get a reliable root you must install CWM. In order to flash CWM you must use nvflash which is a windows command line tool. So there is currently no way to do this from a mac. TBH there may never be a way to do this from mac. I would suggest getting a copy of windows and use bootcamp as I have.

X10D3 said:
Regardless if it was a rooting question. Development forums are for development releases like kernels, roms, mod instructions. Questions are asked in the General forum.
As for your question:
In order to get a reliable root you must install CWM. In order to flash CWM you must use nvflash which is a windows command line tool. So there is currently no way to do this from a mac. TBH there may never be a way to do this from mac. I would suggest getting a copy of windows and use bootcamp as I have.
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Well at this point I do have Parallels, so I'm guessing I should be able to use that as my means of installing CWM, as per the instructions found in the thread in the development section, yes?

Correct. But! I've tried this stuff before from parallels with limited to no success. You need to boot from windows(bootcamp). So that windows has full control of your hardware. I've never been able to get paralleled windows to see things right for this kind of stuff.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14866263&postcount=2
That is the guide that you want to follow. Once your are done flashing CWM you can then just drop the busybox and root zips on your SD card like you normally would with your mac and flash with CWM.

X10D3 said:
Correct. But! I've tried this stuff before from parallels with limited to no success. You need to boot from windows(bootcamp). So that windows has full control of your hardware. I've never been able to get paralleled windows to see things right for this kind of stuff.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14866263&postcount=2
That is the guide that you want to follow. Once your are done flashing CWM you can then just drop the busybox and root zips on your SD card like you normally would with your mac and flash with CWM.
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Yeah but in order to do this wouldn't I have to have a copy of a Windows CD (which I have no access to)? And obviously I'm not about to drop $$$ on a damn Winblows CD just to be able to root. This seriously sucks.
Now I do have access to my work PC, which runs XP. Might you have a rough estimate on how long the steps in that guide would take, should I decide to try doing it here at the office?? I could of course get the files, drivers, etc all set up in advance, so take that part out of the equation. Just wondering on how long in terms of installing CWM; once I have that I can root at home later that night.

...and actually, once I get CWM installed on the 10.1 I should really have no need to connect to it for adb (or at least very very rarely) in the future, correct? I mean it seems like the main hump to get over for a Mac owner is to just get a custom recovery on the 10.1, and after that everything else is just all about flashing (from recovery that is). Would that be a fair statement??

It seriously took me like 10-15 min to run through the steps from none root to CMW, Busybox, and root. I did it at my desk at work eating lunch on my bootcamp Win7 x64.

a few questions about rooting

hello,
i am thinking about rooting my galaxy s3 T999.i was wondering what are some of the things you can do with a rooted phone?is it safe?i have the insurance on my phone.will this void my insurance in anyway if i needed to use it?if i download one of the custom roms with less bloatware will i be able to do everything i could with stock ROM.(games, internet etc).is there anything i cant do with a custom rom that i could do with stock?
sorry for being such a noob..
great site.

if i root and jelly been comes out for the galaxy s3 will i be able to upgrade without affecting my root or anything.

laprodigy001 said:
hello,
i am thinking about rooting my galaxy s3 T999.i was wondering what are some of the things you can do with a rooted phone?is it safe?i have the insurance on my phone.will this void my insurance in anyway if i needed to use it?if i download one of the custom roms with less bloatware will i be able to do everything i could with stock ROM.(games, internet etc).is there anything i cant do with a custom rom that i could do with stock?
sorry for being such a noob..
great site.
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Yes it is very safe. Simple too! It can be done under a minute. I rooted my phone using CF-root. Rooting voids your warranty though, but you can reset the flash counter with Triangle Away and they will be none the wiser. :3
Yeah custom ROMs can do everything a stock ROM can and more. You should not be missing any features.
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laprodigy001 said:
if i root and jelly been comes out for the galaxy s3 will i be able to upgrade without affecting my root or anything.
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I think you will have to reflash the root using mobile Odin. Not too sure. Maybe someone else can come here and verify.

laprodigy001 said:
i was wondering what are some of the things you can do with a rooted phone?
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This is a hard question to answer without just listing of the capabilities of applications that are available on Play. I will just mention what I know in a very basic way. It isn't all 100% technically correct, but if you know enough to say it isn't 100% then my explanation is probably not for you. =D
There are system level changes that can be made to your phone that are normally protected. Android, under the hood, has a file system and for all intents and purposes is very similar to what you see in Windows/OSX. It however, does not have a pretty graphical UI over it that is exposed to you by default.
Most of the system's settings and applications are stored very specific directories on the file system and by default you do not have the ability to directly change anything in those directories; this is done via permissions if you care to read more about it. When you are running your phone you are essentially running as a restricted user. When you root your phone you are giving yourself access to the 'root' user. On a Linux system that is essentially the account that is allowed to change and access anything on the file system; thus all the previous restrictions I mentioned are gone.
This gives you many abilities, some of which are trivial and some of which are not. Consider that as your non-rooted aka restricted user, you can not remove 'bloat ware' from your phone. Verizon is very notable for doing this. You essentially are not allowed by permissions to do so. However as root, you can delete whatever you want. Applications in Android are binary files with the *.apk extension and can be roughly (not always correctly) deleted by removing the *.apk file. You can also do things like directly read the *.apk files and upload them to another site as away to back up your applications (Titanium Backup). There are also more esoteric things like changing some of the settings file where where buffer sizes are kept for reads/writes, etc (SetCPU and flash 'overclocking' apps).
There are more such as wireless tethering (allowing your phone to act as an Wireless Access Point so your wireless desktop/laptop can use your 3g/2g/4g/etc data connection on the road), customizing the look and feel of the ui, etc.
laprodigy001 said:
is it safe?
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Yes and no, but mostly yes. I don't want to scare you, but rooting your phone opens your phone up to higher access by you and by the applications you install. You do have the ability to deny applications super user access, but if you do you do need to realize that super user granted application will have unrestricted access to your phone and data. So only do it for applications where you can verify the application your self or trust the publisher.
The actual root process is generally 'revertible'. By revertible I mean that you will be able unroot/get your phone into a working status, but you will most likely lose any data that is stored only on your phone. You can however back data up to other sources prior to doing anything potentially risky. By the time a guide is posted for a newer user to follow, the process has been tested to a level where it won't outright damage your phone on physical level. Usually anything wonky can be fixed by flashing a stock ROM (which yes does include losing all of your data unless you back it up somewhere). Be aware that the first time you do this you will probably be looking at investing time into learning jargon and programs you've never heard of before. It can be daunting, but most of the guides are posted in step-by-step format.
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is there anything i cant do with a custom rom that i could do with stock?
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They will have the same abilities. Some stock ROMs come with carrier (e.g. Verizon, Sprint, etc) applications that will most likely not be present on the custom ROM. However most of the time if you really want them you can still in stall them and they will work. I am not currently aware any that don't.

xxfreakazoidxx said:
.... you can reset the flash counter with Triangle Away and they will be none the wiser. :3...
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FYI, Its been discussed countless times, in countless threads, Triangle Away does NOT work for any US variant of the GS3 currently, and its author says he most likely wont be making it work, either. Maybe someday someone will get it to work, but as of right now, no.

[Q] Nexus 7: A Beginners Quest!

Hi guys!
I bought a Nexus 7 a few days ago, This is my first Android device, my first tablet and my first attempt at rooting anything. so I was hoping for some help from the experienced folks because frankly i don't know what I'm doing I was hoping you could help me with a sort of beginners guide for rooting, like what i should look out for, whats the safest and easiest toolkit, rom, kernel to use. I know i have so much to learn from you guys and I've been reading some of the threads and im starting to get a bit of it already just asking for a step by step of what i should do im mainly going to use my tablet for torrents, games, and some light photo editing and lots of comics! so how do i start? hope to hear from you guys soon THANKS IN ADVANCE!

For rooting the tablet ..its safe ,the important thing is to follow the instructions .so to root it you can use one of the toolkits in the development section,I preferred wugfresh toolkit more ..but its up to you the other one is also good ... Here's a video which explains the root procedure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI0_ylxyrWA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
btw update your phone before rooting it
And for flashing Roms there are a lots of guides on how to do it..just use Google
If you got stuck in any boot loops just use the toolkit you first used, to restore to stock or restore with a nandroid backup
Most important thing when you root. before touching a file ..do a nandroid backup in recovery to always stay safe ..
That's it enjoy the forums
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium

BigJoey010 said:
For rooting the tablet ..its safe ,the important thing is to follow the instructions .so to root it you can use one of the toolkits in the development section,I preferred wugfresh toolkit more ..but its up to you the other one is also good ... Here's a video which explains the root procedure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI0_ylxyrWA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
btw update your phone before rooting it
And for flashing Roms there are a lots of guides on how to do it..just use Google
If you got stuck in any boot loops just use the toolkit you first used, to restore to stock or restore with a nandroid backup
Most important thing when you root. before touching a file ..do a nandroid backup in recovery to always stay safe ..
That's it enjoy the forums
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
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well said, but here are some more tips: DO NOT PANIC!! when something goes wrong, which is likely, as you are a newbie to rooting, one thing you must not do is panic. calm down and troubleshoot, what did i do wrong? how do i fix it? and according to my experience, whenever a door slams shut behind you, a new window opens. if one method doesn't work, try another method.
also, read through the entire procedure list before start doing the steps. make sure you understand what is required and how to do it before accidentally doing something stupid. believe me, its happened to me b4, not a pleasant experience when you realise you dont actually meet the criteria to install something. btw, here is a list of common names given to the nexus 7: Nexus 7 (duh!), N7, grouper (wifi only) Tilapia (wifi+3g)
good luck rooting!

Read through the stickied threads and try to understand them. It won't happen right away though; your head will probably spin the first couple of times through.
There is really no "overnight" learning curve to this stuff - even if you are an old hand with Linux/Unix.
BTW, it is important to point something out: There should be no reason for you to feel like you should be in a hurry to root. The N7 is a fantastic device, even when used in a pure stock experience.. You are not going to be missing out by not rooting immediately. Spend some time with your device getting used to the Android way of doing things, and start reading XDA with a relaxed frame of mind. There is plenty of time. It would be different if you have lots of prior Android experience - but you said it - this is your first Android device.
OK, rooting. To try and keep you safe while you are a noob, I'll give this recommendation:
If you see the word "flash" (verb) near the word "bootloader", RUN AWAY!.
The most dangerous thing you can do to an N7 is mess around with the bootloader. You can turn your device into a useless object by getting things wrong, and it is a little bit rare that you need to flash a bootloader anyway. You have been warned.
So, make sure you know the difference between bootloader and "boot partition".
Most Android devices have a single flash memory chip in them which is divided up into a number of partitions. There are 5 principal partitions and about the same number of less frequently used partitions:
THE 5 PRINCIPAL ANDROID PARTITIONS:
(B) boot - a raw blob of binary data containing a "kernel" and a "ramdisk"
(B) recovery - another raw blob of binary data containing a "kernel" and a "ramdisk"
(F) system - The "ROM" part of Android - all the factory (or customized) software, used read-only
(F) data - User data and customizations. A "factory reset" simply erases all the files here
(F) cache - a scratch area used for downloading files and other maintenance operations
B = binary, bootable
F = Filesystem
Now, the two bootable partitions - boot and recovery - are very similar in structure, but extremely different in purpose. (In fact, in stock devices, they both use a private copy of the same kernel) The "boot" partition can produce a UI (User Interface) after it starts up only in conjunction with healthy /system and /data filesystems containing the Android software. But the "recovery" partition can produce a minimal UI even if the /data and /system filesystems are completely empty of files; so it (the recovery boot) is used to do all maintenance operations - including things like installing new /system software or erasing all user data.
So, and Android "rooter" will usually replace the very minimal (and locked-down-security) stock recovery partition with a "custom recovery" that is more friendly, and the vast amount of the "flashing" operations will take place using this custom recovery.
When people talk about "ROMs", they generally mean only TWO of those five partitions mentioned above: the "boot" partition and the "system" partition. When a "ROM" is flashed using the system partition, the usual procedure is:
- The rooter makes a full Nandroid backup.
- The rooter performs a "factory reset" procedure which erases the /data*** and /cache filesystems
- The rooter then "flashes a ROM", which puts in place a new boot partition, erases the /system partition, and then re-populates the /system partition with changed Android system software.
Upon booting an Android phone/tablet after this procedure, the device will behave as if it just came from the factory - but now with a different custom version of Android software. Note that this means that all the things you customized in the previous ROM - wallpapers, settings, home screen app icons, widgets, market apps downloaded, etc - will all be gone. So, folks that make a habit of hopping from ROM to ROM generally have some tricks up their sleeves for making the re-customization of a freshly-installed ROM a little less tedious. (Things like using custom launchers that allow you to save homescreen customizations, apps to restore previously-used market apps & their data, etc, etc, etc)
*** there is some funny business with Android devices that have no removable SDcard storage devices such as the Nexus 7 - the user's "SD card" is emulated, and the files that are stored there are actually stored in the /data filesystem. So, custom recoveries usually have a "factory reset" procedure which deletes all files in /data while scrupulously avoiding erasing things in this /sdcard area ( == /data/media ). This allows you to keep things safe from wiping (pictures, music, ROM files, backups) while still installing a fresh and un-initialized ROM. Note that the stock recovery in the N7 does not do this - when you use the "factory reset" of the stock recovery, EVERYTHING in /data gets erased - everything!
While you are reading about Android, here are some questions/searches to look up that concern rooting activities... have fun!
- What is the difference between grouper/tilapia (or nakasi/nakasig )?
- What does it mean to "install a new launcher" or "install a new home app"?
- What is Android fastboot used for?
- What is the Android ADB (Android Device Bridge) program used for?
- What is the difference between a boot image and a bootloader?
- How do I go about making a Nandroid Backup?
- What are the Carbon and Titanium Backup apps for? What can they do?
- What file browsers on the market are "root aware"?
- What Android settings can be saved by the Google Play Store, and automatically restored into a new ROM?
- Is there a difference between the "Superuser" and "SuperSU" root kits?
- What are the special Hardware Button Combinations used by the Nexus 7?
- What is the Google Android SDK?
- What custom recoveries are available for the Nexus 7?
- How many unique operating modes does the Nexus 7 bootloader display? What are they called?
- What is a MD5 signature? How can it help me stay out of trouble?
- What does soft-booting a bootable image with fastboot do?
- How many (Windows PC) drivers are needed to use ADB (with both the custom recovery and also the regular OS) and fastboot (with the bootloader), 2 or 3?
- Suppose I soft-brick my N7 - how will I transfer files to and from the N7 in this situation?
- What is the difference between adb push/pull and adb sideload?
- What does "sideloading an app" mean?
- Is an Android ".apk" file the same thing as a .zip file, or different?
- In what folder in /data are market apps (.apk files) found? Same question for /system and system apps (.apk files)?
- How do I enable the developer options on my N7 tablet?
- What are the limitations of MTP or PTP file transfer modes?
- Where does the custom recovery tool store backups?
- Are the Android tools "adb" and "fastboot" available for Mac or Linux?
- What are the limitations of the Google Factory Images for the Nexus 7? How are they installed?
- I have a problem using the recovery. Where is the log file stored?
- What is the big stumbling block involved in unlocking the N7 bootloader?
- What operations can you perform using fastboot and the bootloader which you can not do any other way?
OK, that's enough for now.

Thanks Everyone!
bftb0 said:
Read through the stickied threads and try to understand them. It won't happen right away though; your head will probably spin the first couple of times through.
There is really no "overnight" learning curve to this stuff - even if you are an old hand with Linux/Unix.
BTW, it is important to point something out: There should be no reason for you to feel like you should be in a hurry to root. The N7 is a fantastic device, even when used in a pure stock experience.. You are not going to be missing out by not rooting immediately. Spend some time with your device getting used to the Android way of doing things, and start reading XDA with a relaxed frame of mind. There is plenty of time. It would be different if you have lots of prior Android experience - but you said it - this is your first Android device..
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I do appreciate everyones input! yeah i think ill make do with the stock for a couple weeks while i study up on rooting and firmwares. well the main reason i wanted to root was for the games, as much as i want to buy the games i like, i dont have the means to

This is great. Wish I had been fortunate enough to have such great help when I first started.
And the most important rule is the one about reading before you root or flash. This will save you some heartache down the road.
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How's rooting related to games ? You mean overclocking ?
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BigJoey010 said:
How's rooting related to games ? You mean overclocking ?
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sad to say i will have to torrent my games as much as i wanna pay and support the game devs i already blew all my money on steam and buying the N7. ive read somewhere that if u are using the the stock version and you try to run a torrented game it automatically shuts down

No it doesn't ...i be downloaded tons of games(torrents) and I'm on stock and they are working normally
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UrbabBear said:
sad to say i will have to torrent my games as much as i wanna pay and support the game devs i already blew all my money on steam and buying the N7. ive read somewhere that if u are using the the stock version and you try to run a torrented game it automatically shuts down
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All the help you were given....then you bring this up.
I doubt further help will come your way as pirating software is very much frowned upon at xda.
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kj2112 said:
All the help you were given....then you bring this up.
I doubt further help will come your way as pirating software is very much frowned upon at xda.
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i never really liked pirating software...believe me im a huge fan of steam and i practically buy alll my games legit for the pc.. since steam wallet codes are available at a local store here.. okay i promise i wont pirate and ill try to look for the means to buy from the google store , the thing is i dont have a credit card... and i dont know if google has have something equivalent to steam wallet cards for the google play store.. i could borrow a cc and pay for it.. but is the google play store a safe place to purchase ? i nkow some people disputing alot of charges from google play to everyone, i meant no disprespect.. i was thinking along the lines of test the game if there is no lite version, then when i can i will buy the game :< im still new to the whole tablet arena and im gonna need all the help that i can get

UrbabBear said:
i never really liked pirating software...believe me im a huge fan of steam and i practically buy alll my games legit for the pc.. since steam wallet codes are available at a local store here.. okay i promise i wont pirate and ill try to look for the means to buy from the google store , the thing is i dont have a credit card... and i dont know if google has have something equivalent to steam wallet cards for the google play store.. i could borrow a cc and pay for it.. but is the google play store a safe place to purchase ? i nkow some people disputing alot of charges from google play to everyone, i meant no disprespect.. i was thinking along the lines of test the game if there is no lite version, then when i can i will buy the game :< im still new to the whole tablet arena and im gonna need all the help that i can get
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a good way to get started is to get yourself a prepaid credit card from 7eleven and use that for purchases from the play store.

Billchen0014 said:
a good way to get started is to get yourself a prepaid credit card from 7eleven and use that for purchases from the play store.
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as much as that service would be convenient its not available in my country thanks! i hope somebody brings it here ... i found a workaround already now just a matter of saving up for the good apps! so in the mean time lite versions here i come!

UrbabBear said:
as much as that service would be convenient its not available in my country thanks! i hope somebody brings it here ... i found a workaround already now just a matter of saving up for the good apps! so in the mean time lite versions here i come!
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http://play.google.com/about/giftcards/ use this to see if any retailers near you sell.
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Hey guys, what do you think are the most basic and necessary apps that i should get ? running on stock
, ive checked some and go a file manager

If you think you are going to root down the road...
If you think there is a good chance that you are going to root down the road, I would suggest unlocking the bootloader in the near future. You'll need to do this and it wipes everything on the tablet. Even if you don't root, there's isn't any major downside to having the bootloader unlocked and you can always relock it later.
It's better to do that before you've put a lot of time into customizing your tablet to perfection and then have to redo it all.