T-Mobile already going AT&T's way - Networking

AT&T hasn't fully aquire tmobile yet tmobile is already going AT&T on us, can someone please explain this screen shot
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2G of full speed data on this new "unlimited" plan???? Excuse me?, it says unlimited not 2G, so what happens after we exceed the 2G? Notice tmo didn't say they were slowing the speeds after 2G they clearly stated in their advertisement 2G of full speed data, it doesn't get more clear than that SMFH
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For those of yu who can't see the letters stating 2G of full data save the pic and zoom in the ad in the center
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Here is a better screenshot clear enough to see their "truly unlimited" data plan LOL
Tmobile is a joke nowadays, this is months before this aquisition takes place just imagine after the aquisition happens how ****ty tmobile is gonna get, same happen to cingular, at&t bought it and that was it for that company

This isn't capped data, it's just throttled. Sprint does it too, only difference is Tmobile tells you that they do it. While I agree, it's still crap what they're doing but it's no where near as bad as a 2 gb cap. Plus, from what I've read up on it the FCC might not approve the merger.

vbetts said:
This isn't capped data, it's just throttled. Sprint does it too, only difference is Tmobile tells you that they do it. While I agree, it's still crap what they're doing but it's no where near as bad as a 2 gb cap. Plus, from what I've read up on it the FCC might not approve the merger.
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Amen to that!

vbetts said:
This isn't capped data, it's just throttled. Sprint does it too, only difference is Tmobile tells you that they do it. While I agree, it's still crap what they're doing but it's no where near as bad as a 2 gb cap. Plus, from what I've read up on it the FCC might not approve the merger.
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Dude I hope so, cuz at&t will only worsen tmo, but either way remember they first had the 5gb data cap not that long ago, and now its 2gb? What happen there do yu think its fair?, not even 5GB is fair because when I signed up with them I didn't have this 5GB cap and they didn't tell me about it when signing the contract, now I just got my first text message last month saying I exceeded my 5GB data and my speeds were slowed to .05 mbps, so they change my plan "unlimited" plan from an uncap to a cap data plan, let me guess what's next.... charging for exceeding data after your 2GB just like at&t lol, watch them do that later on, I thinks that's agaisnt the policy and I believe i can cancel my account at no fee anytime now due to the changes they've done to my plan.
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How much do they cap? Rate wise.
On another note, I still see TMobile commericals on TV telling you how much ATT sucks. I just think thats funny.

dot1q said:
How much do they cap? Rate wise.
On another note, I still see TMobile commericals on TV telling you how much ATT sucks. I just think thats funny.
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Yea so much bashing at&t yet they may get bought by at&t LOL
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Also I did research on FCC stand on this acquisition, and so far I'm 99.9% sure it won't get approve, for following reasons
"A merger between AT&T and T-Mobile, however, does not seem likely to benefit mobile users. It looks sure to reduce competition, take away an innovative, lower-cost alternative, and inch the wireless carrier market closer to duopoly.
If you live in a sufficiently dense neighborhood in the United States, you do have a choice of carriers. Indeed, in 18 of the top 20 markets—home to a "large majority" of Americans—you probably have your pick of at least five. There are the big four: Verizon, AT&T, Sprint Nextel, and T-Mobile. After that, there are scads of smaller competitors, like Leap, TrackFone, Cricket, MetroPCS, and Qwest. But the four big companies essentially control the market, even if AT&T says "intense competition [is] increasing with new entrants." Currently, Verizon has about 101 million subscribers, while AT&T has 96 million, Sprint Nextel 48 million, and T-Mobile 36 million. All of the other players have less than 10 percent of market share combined. That's not enough to threaten the big guys."
This is FCC POV on this retarded acquisition. And I of course share their point of view, because it simply makes no sense, now with that being sad by FCC I really doubt this acquisition would go anywhere and tmo would be better off with the 3 billion AT&T will be force to pay after for break up fee @ least tmo will benefit from this retarded decision at&t made, and I'm really glad they have to pay 3 billion$ fine to tmo if this doesn't go thru, they should've analyse and THINK before carrying out such an absurd decision
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The merger is not going to happen. It will be blocked why are you guys freaking out about this. Stop worrying about it so much. The likely hood of this merger going through is 0%-0.1%. So stop *****ing and moaning and complaining about how ****ty at&t is and how ****ty t-mobile will become if the merger happens, because this will never happen!!

mugenfiji0327 said:
The merger is not going to happen. It will be blocked why are you guys freaking out about this. Stop worrying about it so much. The likely hood of this merger going through is 0%-0.1%. So stop *****ing and moaning and complaining about how ****ty at&t is and how ****ty t-mobile will become if the merger happens, because this will never happen!!
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That's why I let ppl know what does FCC have to say about it, I totally agree with you now let's all stop *****ing about it
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where are you guys getting these percentages and stuff from?
do you really think ATT would risk $3B and not know anything, but some dudes on xda have it all figured out better than the top execs on ATT on how the FCC functions.
Because our govt has proven it can be trusted and is only about doing what's right?
I wouldn't be so sure this won't happen.

sprint doesn't throttle, check yo facts

mugenfiji0327 said:
The merger is not going to happen. It will be blocked why are you guys freaking out about this. Stop worrying about it so much. The likely hood of this merger going through is 0%-0.1%. So stop *****ing and moaning and complaining about how ****ty at&t is and how ****ty t-mobile will become if the merger happens, because this will never happen!!
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people are worked up cause they know what they have in tmobile. they also see what they could have if the deal happens with att. hence all the complaining. also if tmobile and att didnt think the deal would go through why why att be so willing to let 3 billion walk out the door?
listen i hope that the deal doesnt happen but thats a lot of money for att to gamble on...

kdm212 said:
people are worked up cause they know what they have in tmobile. they also see what they could have if the deal happens with att. hence all the complaining. also if tmobile and att didnt think the deal would go through why why att be so willing to let 3 billion walk out the door?
listen i hope that the deal doesnt happen but thats a lot of money for att to gamble on...
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At&t doesn't decide if the merge happens or not, so those of yu sayin that at&t won't lose 3Billion$ its not up to them they made a bad choice, **** happens this merge will have more negative impacts than positive as FCC stated.
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NewZJ said:
sprint doesn't throttle, check yo facts
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Never talked about sprint
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androidfeen809 said:
Never talked about sprint
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post 4, mentioned it

orangekid said:
where are you guys getting these percentages and stuff from?
do you really think ATT would risk $3B and not know anything, but some dudes on xda have it all figured out better than the top execs on ATT on how the FCC functions.
Because our govt has proven it can be trusted and is only about doing what's right?
I wouldn't be so sure this won't happen.
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I pulled the percentages out of my ass for an example. Yes I do think that at&t would do something stupid like that and risk 3 billion. I mean come on smart guy we are talking about at&t. I don't really care what you think, but IT WILL NOT HAPPEN. There are no benefits for any customers or anybody else for that matter except for at&t. Like I said IT"S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

Speaking of Skynet..... AT&T just might risk 3bill, they are the T1000 of the corporate world. Isnt this the 3rd time they have re-assembled into Ma-Bell? They would do anything to consume even more.

Haxel said:
Speaking of Skynet..... AT&T just might risk 3bill, they are the T1000 of the corporate world. Isnt this the 3rd time they have re-assembled into Ma-Bell? They would do anything to consume even more.
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true...but even for the mighty att empire 3 billion is a lot to lose on a deal.

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AT&T buys T-Mobile USA

i posted this in the HD7 forum, figured it applies here as well...and yes, it still sucks !
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/20/atandt-agrees-to-buy-t-mobile-from-deutsche-telekom/
Son of a....
Ugh...
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Great, here comes wfi tethering fees, smartphone crackdowns and data caps.
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dani3l said:
Great, here comes wfi tethering fees, smartphone crackdowns and data caps.
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Tell Me About It. -_-
When I signed my contract with T-Mobile I already figured tbey would be getting bought out befor my contract was up. I just didn't know who would buy them out. I just bope the transition goes smoothly and that and T-Mobile customers that have unlimited data plans get to keep the unlimited data plans. I can not live with a 2GB cap.
It makes major since for att. after all in the usa this would totally kill any reasons for an unlock for smartphones or the iphone, since there would be no other carrier.
This means, higher prices, lower data caps, higher fees, and lower customer service.
att + tmobile = verizon, but with out the unlimited internet.
songokussm said:
...att + tmobile = verizon, but with out the unlimited internet.
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I think you might be wrong there.
You see the network will now be lets say 2xStronger that it is now. meaning, unlimited data usage might come back, since the network will now be able to handle the load.
Example, lets say Dallas, Texas. again this is just a example. it has lets say 5 AT&T towers and 7 T-mobile towers. since both companies will be having the same spectrum for voice and data, there will be 12 towers supplying the necessary amount of voice and data.
This only makes a stronger network. download speeds speeds will be out the roof, and unlimited might come back since there will a stringer network to back it up, if it doesn't, maybe larger data caps instead of the typical 2Gbs, 4 or 6GB.\
BTW, if you have unlimited ATM im sure you will be grandfathered into unlimited.
Fair Warning AT&T, I refuse to do business with you. Come the first quarter of 2012 I will switch to Verizon.
i find it funny how verizon gets an iphone, att reacts by buying a whole network. LOL
T-Mobile Posts Question & Answer On AT&T Acquisition
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sal2708 said:
I think you might be wrong there.
You see the network will now be lets say 2xStronger that it is now. meaning, unlimited data usage might come back, since the network will now be able to handle the load.
Example, lets say Dallas, Texas. again this is just a example. it has lets say 5 AT&T towers and 7 T-mobile towers. since both companies will be having the same spectrum for voice and data, there will be 12 towers supplying the necessary amount of voice and data.
This only makes a stronger network. download speeds speeds will be out the roof, and unlimited might come back since there will a stringer network to back it up, if it doesn't, maybe larger data caps instead of the typical 2Gbs, 4 or 6GB.\
BTW, if you have unlimited ATM im sure you will be grandfathered into unlimited.
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No, you won't get unlimited data usage back, you won't get larger data caps, you only get monopoly.
sal2708 said:
I think you might be wrong there.
You see the network will now be lets say 2xStronger that it is now. meaning, unlimited data usage might come back, since the network will now be able to handle the load.
Example, lets say Dallas, Texas. again this is just a example. it has lets say 5 AT&T towers and 7 T-mobile towers. since both companies will be having the same spectrum for voice and data, there will be 12 towers supplying the necessary amount of voice and data.
This only makes a stronger network. download speeds speeds will be out the roof, and unlimited might come back since there will a stringer network to back it up, if it doesn't, maybe larger data caps instead of the typical 2Gbs, 4 or 6GB.\
BTW, if you have unlimited ATM im sure you will be grandfathered into unlimited.
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AT&T currently have their capped plans, and T-Mobile was suffering from limited spectrum. All that they're doing is combining customers. Sure, the network will be larger, but they're bringing in all the T-mobile customers, too.
Silver Lining
A merger like this will take forever. We won't see any change for at least 12 months. And you know Verizon won't take it lying down.
Hmm, maybe the gov't will break up AT&T again. Hell it's only been 30 yrs since the last time they did it. And we all know what happened to that...
But for us HD2 users on AT&T...how will AT&T handle TMo's 3G network? They would have to allow backward compatibility. Which means all frequencies work on AT&T. Which means 3G on HD2 running on AT&T. Makes illogical sense, just like AT&T buying TMo.
Ahh one can dream.
Yeah, when I read this earlier I was disappointed. I left at&t for a variety of reasons, mainly because of data caps & horrible customer service. I will never go Verizon, so it looks like I'm headed to Sprint as soon as my T-mo contract is up!
Also I don't think this will benefit T-Mobile users, as at&t will be flooding our towers & slowing things down for us. But it will take around 9 months before we notice those things and about a year before it's final.
But I will NOT be signing back on with T-Mobile/at&t.
If this effects my 5.99 t-zones unlimited internet I will be pissed as hell
i for one would rather use a tin can string before i go back to at&t, even if they offer me a comparable android phone in exchange for my hd2. Shame that the best phone i've ever had will soon lose 3g capability.
sal2708 said:
I think you might be wrong there.
You see the network will now be lets say 2xStronger that it is now. meaning, unlimited data usage might come back, since the network will now be able to handle the load.
Example, lets say Dallas, Texas. again this is just a example. it has lets say 5 AT&T towers and 7 T-mobile towers. since both companies will be having the same spectrum for voice and data, there will be 12 towers supplying the necessary amount of voice and data.
This only makes a stronger network. download speeds speeds will be out the roof, and unlimited might come back since there will a stringer network to back it up, if it doesn't, maybe larger data caps instead of the typical 2Gbs, 4 or 6GB.\
BTW, if you have unlimited ATM im sure you will be grandfathered into unlimited.
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man i wish i had your optimistic outlook on things. I think it would be more likely for ATT to keep current caps in place in order to allow future subscribership growth without investing money on infrastructure.
It's f*#king Ma Bell, back from the damned grave. Go back you old hag.
I'm actually happy for this! Why? In my country, TMo sucks big time. No reception anywhere, and 3g only on 2/3 cities. So, by uniting at&t and t-mobile, we'll of course have better reception and more than 2g everywhere. I am actually excited by this. Best phones+best reception=win. And yeah, i know the prices, but that could change. What is sure is that we'll have the best phones and the best reception. So it's just a matter of time and patience.
i really dont know why everyone is *****ing. for those of you on T-Mobile everything will stay the same. only thing that will be diffent will be your bill and the network name on your phone. becuase you all will be grandfathred into whatever plans you all have. if at all it will be better for all us since there will be a bigger & faster network.

At&ts acquisition of T mobile might be very good for Sprint

At&t's acquisition of Tmobile may very well be one of the best things that ever hapened to sprint, leaving only one low priced nation wide carrier in the country. I predict that millions of former tmobile customers will have no where else to go but Sprint. Anyone disagree / agree with my prerediction? (excuae poor writing skills)
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What should Sprint do with Clearwire?
I dont havea clue. As I understand it, Sprint has plans of using its 800mhz spectrum for future 4g service. I don't know what they could possibly do with Clear's 2.5 GHZ spectrum.
Jayavarman said:
What should Sprint do with Clearwire?
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lol there goes the idea of sprint buying tmo....
snowmanwithahat said:
lol there goes the idea of sprint buying tmo....
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If Sprint bought T-Mobile I think it would hurt them ore than it would help.
DarkManX4lf said:
If Sprint bought T-Mobile I think it would hurt them ore than it would help.
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Sprint is worth about $267.64, T-Mobile is more than they can afford pal.
If this merger goes anything like the AT&T/Cingular merger the combined new company is bound to lose a ton of subscribers. That merger was a clusterfudge and a half and is the reason I'm a Sprint customer now.
I was a cingular customer during that time i didnt notice anything
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If I had a good chunck of money lying around I'd invest in Sprint as they have big plans for the future. Restating what someone above already said, AT&T aquiring T-Mobile is just going ot increase Sprint's number of subscribers, paired with their rumored and "unofficial confirmed?" lol if that makes sense - decision to move to LTE and finally topped with next weeks CTIA event where some REAL nice phones / tablets are expected to drop - Sprint is in for a subscriber boost. I'm on Sprint right now with my Epic 4G and had plans to possibly switch to t-mobile or At&t but now that At&t is buying Tmobile and will probably eliminate all Unlimited plans and sprint will get some actually nice phones that don't have a keyboard - I am definitely going to be sticking around! Oh and besides all that I just moved to West hills and now I have beautiful 4G coverage ALL through my house with 5 -7 Mbps down and 1 - 2 Mbps up So I'm one happy camper and its all about to get better when I upgrade the day Sprint releases their new phones to the public! Man waiting really pays off!
Any more opinions anyone?
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You are amongthe select who has 4g
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Agree. Sprint should benefit in economy theory.
churro7 said:
I was a cingular customer during that time i didnt notice anything
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Wow, you're quite lucky - or maybe I just wasn't so lucky. They screwed me around quite badly. I'm not going to turn this into a flame AT&T thread, but generally speaking I was with AT&T since the analog days and they made it impossible for me to continue to use them as a direct result of that merger. Took my 3 lines to Sprint and never looked back. Best wishes to any happy T-mobile users out there who are going to be converted if the feds approve this.
all I got was a bill with AT&T instead lol
I came to sprint because it was cheaper.
still true now
churro7 said:
all I got was a bill with AT&T instead lol
I came to sprint because it was cheaper.
still true now
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Sorry, I have to rant here for a minute...
1st, I had just bought a new phone on the AT&T blue side. When they wanted to migrate me to the "orange" billing system because I wanted to up my minutes they told me I'd have to buy another new phone and I wasn't eligible for an upgrade. I wound up unlocking my phone myself and using the orange sim in it anyway.
Also, at the time I had 3 phone lines in 2 different area codes. They told me the new billing system wouldn't let me do that and I had to change a phone number that I had with them for several years. I ended up having to split the one line off onto its own account which cost quite a bit more per month but had no choice at the time and was generally happy with my coverage and equipment otherwise.
I also regularly dialed international long distance @ 85 cents/minute which equated to several hundred dollars a month (over $700 one month) which I always paid on time and with a smile. Shortly after they migrated my account I had an emergency while traveling and desperately needed to dial international which I was no longer able to do. I called AT&T post haste and they told me "We're sorry, since you've been a customer less than 90 days we cannot permit you to dial internationally". I explained the situation that since migrating to the new billing system I had a new account number and provided my old account number for them to verify. They claimed there was nothing they could do and I could appeal to a manager which would take 7-10 business days. I wound up talking to a complete stranger about my situation who let me use his landline. We had no idea what it would cost him to dial international from his line, so I gave him $50 which he refused but I insisted he take it. I moved carriers within days of that ordeal.
Thats just no way to treat an 8 year loyal, multi-line, international dialing customer dealing with a life and death situation. Money was never the issue, terrible customer relations was. Thats why I want to wish all those poor TMO users good luck - I hope they don't have the same experience.
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At&t's acquisition of Tmobile may very well be one of the best things that ever hapened to sprint, leaving only one low priced nation wide carrier in the country. I predict that millions of former tmobile customers will have no where else to go but Sprint. Anyone disagree / agree with my prerediction? (excuae poor writing skills)
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great 4 sprint but this is BAD 4 us, y. cause there would be NOTHING to stop sprint from RAISING their rates or eliminating the unlimited plan. at&t would be the only GSM cell company in the US. in a way it would be a MONOPOLY! out of the 4 top carriers, sprint was the cheapest followed by t-mobile. FCC NEEDS 2 SQUASH THIS DEAL! unless metro pcs gets more towers, mark my words WE WILL SUFFER!
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great 4 sprint but this is BAD 4 us, y. cause there would be NOTHING to stop sprint from RAISING their rates or eliminating the unlimited plan. at&t would be the only GSM cell company in the US. in a way it would be a MONOPOLY! out of the 4 top carriers, sprint was the cheapest followed by t-mobile. FCC NEEDS 2 SQUASH THIS DEAL! unless metro pcs gets more towers, mark my words WE WILL SUFFER!
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Agreed. AT&T is going to screw everybody. Look what they are already doing to T-Mobile Girl.
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Looks like it may be time to buy some Sprint stock.
EDIT: LOL It went down 16% today.

(OFFICAL THREAD) At&t and T-Mobile merges, what's your thought on this?

According to a very well known site to me www.tmonews.com, the site states that At&t and T-Mobile agreed to join forces and will soon be working together. So what does this mean for us streak users? Feel free to post your thoughts and opinions in this thread.
hate it
this made me feel sick in the stomach,when i first read it at dslreports,this is not good for competion or pricing.
im with att,but used to be with tmo...and its customer service/pricing/data usage... blew att out of the water ....now hearing this sucks
im only with att,cause im on a second family line
looks like there will be only one gsm network,and vz will probally buy sprint,so we will have one cdma/lte
so we will have att vs verizon for all us mobile carriers.....maybe
It going to suck for t-moble. There was an article saying that t-monble hads the best customer service an att was the worst.
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this made me feel sick in the stomach,when i first read it at dslreports,this is not good for competion or pricing.
im with att,but used to be with tmo...and its customer service/pricing/data usage... blew att out of the water ....now hearing this sucks
im only with att,cause im on a second family line
looks like there will be only one gsm network,and vz will probally buy sprint,so we will have one cdma/lte
so we will have att vs verizon for all us mobile carriers.....maybe
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I can somewhat relate. I was with tmo for the past 7 years and I made the switch to at&t only a month ago because I wanted the streak. I agree that tmo had amazing customer support and their plans were pretty good as well, and to see both company's joining forces is not a bad thing in my eyes. I only hope that at&t will take in some of t-mobiles plans and offer it to us. To have the ability of 5GB data cap wouldn't be that bad and to not have to pay $10 bucks for an extra gig would be even better.
This is bad. It will allow carriers to do horrible things to their customers like no unlimited data. BAD BAD BAD.
I personally have been trying to convince the wife to change to AT&T or Verizon so welcome this change.
I'm tired of having to get unlocked AT&T phones due to T-Mobiles crap phone selections.
Its like in Canada you either got bell or rogers ...and they both wanna rape you so either way if you got a phone ...you getting. Raped
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It's good IMO. T-Mobile wanted to be bought, it was going to happen eventually. Instead of being purchased by Sprint and having to be converted to CDMA, they'll be purchased by ATT and will insist in increasing network density for 3G and LTE.
It does leave a possible void in the discount arena, but Sprint and MetroPCS can fill that. T-Mobile lost 400K subscribers last quarter, something had to happen.
I wouldn't mind seeing Sprint gobble up Metro (like techs in cdma) and giving us 3 solid choices. Having spotty service carriers like T-Mobile helps no one.
I did read that in the short term ATT and TMobile towers would go dual mode so each group of customers would get better service. So, right from the start that's a positive.
I'm going to be mad if ATT treats this as anything more then a means to resolve there density issues.
Do not like. I am on att because its way cheaper to pay my parents to be on their plan than to have my own. I figured once I start making more money I would switch to tmobile because they have good phones and impose less carrier restrictions. Now they are joining att who (would like) to rule their plans like tyrants. Now I dont know what I'm going to do.
That's a shame....Springfield Missouri had a HUGE T-Mobile customer support center open up a couple years ago. Must be 2-300 people working there.
You can bet the death star will can that, and off shore it somewhere else.
Also, bad for t-mobile users, and wireless users in general, because, you can
bet Verizon will be right up to gobble up Sprint (t-mobile +at&t +gsm...Verizon + sprint + cdma). Then there will only be two wireless providers in the USA.
Of course, we all know, that they won't get together to screw the end users LOL.
It's funny, we (USA) spent a lot of money in an anti-trust case in the early 80's
to break up "ma-bell", because they were a monopoly, and some 30 years later, they have just about put themselves back together again.
I surely have a bad feeling about this..
I am a TMo user and been there with them since the day i came to US(Almost 8+ years).
Even though I can only use Streak with EDGE speed with TMo, I am okay with it.
But once the network merge is complete, would that mean that with TMo simcard in Streak, I now will have 3G speed?
I wonder!
this is actually a good thing. att said this pushes their network 5 years in development, and they will have 60mbit 4g lte coverage to 95% of americans. users on both networks will have access to all 3g gsm bands. and with the new capacity load capabilities, att can lower their prices to compete more with verizon. i actually do see verizon buying sprint too.
i was thinking of was actually thinking of selling my streak and buying a samsung infuse 4g. its a faster phone with an almost as large but higher quality screen and better cameras and is a "4g" phone but its hspa+ not lte and with this announcement, im going to wait till later this year when the lte phones come out.
For me it's a GOOD THING!
I'm 99% about THE PHONES. If this merger opens up the TMOus 3G/4G bands to ATT users, then the more progressive/higher end TMO european phones would become available here sooner. That's a great thing imo.
hmm
i think people need to look at this from a business point of view . If At&T does end up buying Tmobile this will be bad for the customer, because that is one less company At&T has to fight a price war with and being that att and Tmobile are the only GSM networks out there that makes them the only player in the GSM arena .
everyone needs to remember the more options out there the better that will keep each company in check and fight for every customer out there with better prices and plans .
some will say will it will make my signal better and make the network faster and make things happen alot faster as far as 4g becoming the stranded thing . i for one dont care about speed if i am going to end up paying like crazy for KB's of data att is starting to nickel and dime the customer and this is coming from an att customer
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That's a shame....Springfield Missouri had a HUGE T-Mobile customer support center open up a couple years ago. Must be 2-300 people working there.
You can bet the death star will can that, and off shore it somewhere else.
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AT&T has several call centers around the bay area so I doubt they will go over seas. It would be unfortunate for the Springfield employees to lose their jobs so hopefully AT&T will just bring them on board. There is no way they could handle that many additional accounts without adding employees.
That said, being a call center person myself job stability is never guaranteed when dealing with tech products. It comes with the territory.
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I'm tired of having to get unlocked AT&T phones due to T-Mobiles crap phone selections.
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Srsly?
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less competition is bad for everyone. $$$
Found a photo of the borg sphere last night, and photoshopped the rest.
Kind of how I feel about the whole thing.
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Found a photo of the borg sphere last night, and photoshopped the rest.
Kind of how I feel about the whole thing.
lol... Super bump.
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Something for Award Tour

Seems like God has it's issues too
http://androidandme.com/2011/04/car..._campaign=Feed:+androidandme+(Android+and+Me)
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But but but ...Verizon is God.
This is what I've been saying, technology isn't perfect.
No amount of money can protect you from problems.
Sprints 4G has not gone down and we have five times the amount of users. 3G works fine in most areas except his borough on NY.
Either way, tech is tech, things happen.
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You know I could explain what went wrong here, but I'm slightly enjoying the I told you so feeling. Also, I'd rather wait to see it reach 2 million LTE subscribers before I mention my reasoning. Having said that, Verizon's LTE strategy is fantastic for the consumers, and their 3G/4G offering is currently better than Sprint's. To say your carrier's 3G works fine everywhere but NYC is laughable and silly. Steps were made to make both 3G/4G more enjoyable for the customers, and your patience will be rewarded.
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Seems like God has it's issues too
http://androidandme.com/2011/04/car..._campaign=Feed:+androidandme+(Android+and+Me)
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Bwahahaha hmmm I wonder if he gonna show up. I'm sure he will
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You know I could explain what went wrong here, but I'm slightly enjoying the I told you so feeling. Also, I'd rather wait to see it reach 2 million LTE subscribers before I mention my reasoning. Having said that, Verizon's LTE strategy is fantastic for the consumers, and their 3G/4G offering is currently better than Sprint's. To say your carrier's 3G works fine everywhere but NYC is laughable and silly. Steps were made to make both 3G/4G more enjoyable for the customers, and your patience will be rewarded.
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Sprints network works fine except areas being upgraded where towers are being removed and integrated into one, we know this already, so yes it works fine in most areas believe me. The only reason I mentioned NY is because that's his area.
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this will get good !
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Thank god I have the AT&T network to fall back on when it comes to data. I live in NJ and the service has gone to ****s.
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Sprint's network works great, except where it doesn't. Their 4G has never gone down, especially where it hasn't gone up yet.
Well, apparently I don't live in "most areas". Speeds here in Reno, Nevada range from barely tolerable to pathetic. At my house I average about 200 kbs down with a low of 87 kbs to just over 500 kbs. At work, in the middle of town, it averages a little better, around 800 kbs, but is much more erratic with lows around 100 kbs, and very rare highs of around 1600 kbs. Bottom line though, virtually all other carriers are faster than Sprint is here, by a pretty good margin. And it has been that way for about six months now. And then their is the 4g that was promised by the end of the year when I got my phone last June, lets just say I am not holding my breath. I think it would be a pretty good bet that all the other carriers will have 4g here before Sprint does.
That said, I am not necessarily a disgruntled customer. With the exception of Verizon, Sprint has the best coverage here, But Verizon's 4g probably won't get here any sooner than Sprints. ATT's phone call quality sucks, even though their 3g data speeds are at least 2-3 times faster than Sprint on Sprints best day. And Tmobile has the best speed of all, but their coverage totally sucks. So they all have their pros and cons. I'll stick it out for another year, until my current contract runs out. If Sprint doesn't get their act together by then though, I will definitely consider moving on.
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Sprints network works fine except areas being upgraded where towers are being removed and integrated into one, we know this already, so yes it works fine in most areas believe me. The only reason I mentioned NY is because that's his area.
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I've been with Sprint since 1999 and I'm not going anywhere; I'm a stick it through with them until their network gets better. However, I doubt that Sprint has been integrating the new system into the old one for over half a year in my area. In that amount of time, you would assume that at least one tower would be upgraded by now. My 3G service has 1x speeds everywhere I go in Miami.
Maybe it's one of those things where they can't flip the switch until EVERYTHING is upgraded......I don't know. However, anytime my girl sends me a short video of my kid doing something cute, it's a 20+ minute wait to download 5 MBs if I don't have 4G coverage or WiFi. I used to brag about how fast my phone was and now I try to sneak out of any conversation that has to do with data speeds. lol
DirtyShroom is thirsty to make his employer look good. Networks go down, and you act as if any of Sprint's network has never gone down before. Guess what, it has, and it probably will again.
BTW - I have absolutely no affiliation with Verizon. Don't even have an account with them (EVO/Sprint + ATT/iPhone). What I have said in the past is that:
A) Sprint's EVDO network in NYC is pathetic right now, and most signs point to overcapacity.
B) Verizon's LTE is both faster and more usable because of it's frequency.
So it seems as if Verizon's LTE network is currently down, doesn't effect me, and by the end of the day, it probably won't effect anybody.
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DirtyShroom is thirsty to make his employer look good. Networks go down, and you act as if any of Sprint's network has never gone down before. Guess what, it has, and it probably will again.
BTW - I have absolutely no affiliation with Verizon. Don't even have an account with them (EVO/Sprint + ATT/iPhone). What I have said in the past is that:
A) Sprint's EVDO network in NYC is pathetic right now, and most signs point to overcapacity.
B) Verizon's LTE is both faster and more usable because of it's frequency.
So it seems as if Verizon's LTE network is currently down, doesn't effect me, and by the end of the day, it probably won't effect anybody.
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So now you lie? You clearly stated you moved one of your two lines to Verizon. I'm just showing you that even Verizon has issues. This is clearly affecting all 500k users.
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I have absolutely no affiliation with Verizon. Don't even have an account with them
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You should
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So now you lie? You clearly stated you moved one of your two lines to Verizon. I'm just showing you that even Verizon has issues. This is clearly affecting all 500k users.
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Find the post. You won't because it's all in your head. You choose to believe what you want to believe.
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Find the post. You won't because it's all in your head. You choose to believe what you want to believe.
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Wow... So you never said you moved one line and were waiting until the Nexus to see if the network is fixed by then? Must have been another Award Tour or I could be completely wrong. Not searching on my phone for the post though.
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I distinctly remember this being said as well.
Let's own up to what we say.
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Find the post. You won't because it's all in your head. You choose to believe what you want to believe.
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I even remember you saying you moved a line to Verizon lol. People dont forget man!
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I distinctly remember this being said as well.
Let's own up to what we say.
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Agreed I remember that as well

I'm off contract and really thinking Sprint...w/unlimited Data

Don't you think thats the best choice for big data users?
Yes, its un throttled, and many major markets are getting LTE by April 2013.
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i have sprint and want out. 3g is more like whatever is slower than 1x and unless you're in a major market in first lte rollout you won't have it for quite a while, making you stuck on 3g. Wimax hasn't supported many areas and the rollout was slow. research before committing
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Wimax is very strong in Chicago too...
i have sprint and am leaving as well. thinking about the note 2 on tmobile but really want an exynos 5250 phone so we'll see if i can hold out till the gs4. either way i'm done with sprint and their crappy network.
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Wimax is very strobg in Chicago too...
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I'm on sprint, I have the og epic 4g, wimax was really slow until the devs here figured the epics radio was buggy thanks to samsung. Now I can flash the Nexus modem on to my phone and wimax is amazing, way faster than before and pretty consistent. The evo LTE is having the same problem with their radio right now I believe. Anyways for heavy data users Sprint is great, but it really depends on where you live, figure out what's best for you because crappy data speeds are about as good as throttled data speeds. I hope Samsung does a good job on the note 2 modem.
My experience with Sprint was great till recently. Speeds are horrible and I've had to call twice in two weeks about texts not going through. My wife isn't receiving calls on her Epic Touch. I would seriously reconsider your decision. We will be headed to At&t asap and I plan on picking up a Note 2.
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Don't you think thats the best choice for big data users?
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Sprint's data speeds really suck, especially inside buildings.
You might want to get a hotspot and test it out for a month.
Go around the areas you frequent and run speed tests.
Or buy a cheapo Sprint phone off CL and get a month of service. This way you can use it for as long as you wish and then cancel if you don't like the service since you aren't in a contract.
I have yet to ever meet someone who's uttered the phrase, "I'm satisfied with Sprint." Their service problems go back at least 12 years because that's when I used to sell phones with Sprint being one of the carriers.
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I have yet to ever meet someone who's uttered the phrase, "I'm satisfied with Sprint." Their service problems go back at least 12 years because that's when I used to sell phones with Sprint being one of the carriers.
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Welp, maybe we're not meeting in person, but consider this a virtual introduction.
It just so happens I've been with Sprint for the last twelve years & I'm satisfied with Sprint. I'll even go as far as to say, I've had the best experience with Sprint of any carrier. Good quality cellular & data service, customer service has been impressive, & pound for pound, none of the big dogs can beat their pricing (at least not yet). I've had both Verizon & AT&T. Can't speak for T-Mobile, but I'm still with Sprint after 12 years.
And I may be out of line in saying this, but I'm guessing not too many folks go to the retailer specifically just to tell them how great & satisfied they've been with their service or provider, regardless of carrier. Unless they're renewing or accessorizing, they're there because they have a problem with their phone or with the service, with their bill, or with their current carrier/provider & they are looking to switch.
Edit: Sorry OP. To address your question, if I haven't already made it obvious, I do think Sprint is the best choice.
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Welp, maybe we're not meeting in person, but consider this a virtual introduction.
It just so happens I've been with Sprint for the last twelve years & I'm satisfied with Sprint. I'll even go as far as to say, I've had the best experience with Sprint of any carrier. Good quality cellular & data service, customer service has been impressive, & pound for pound, none of the big dogs can beat their pricing (at least not yet). I've had both Verizon & AT&T. Can't speak for T-Mobile, but I'm still with Sprint after 12 years.
And I may be out of line in saying this, but I'm guessing not too many folks go to the retailer specifically just to tell them how great & satisfied they've been with their service or provider, regardless of carrier. Unless they're renewing or accessorizing, they're there because they have a problem with their phone or with the service, with their bill, or with their current carrier/provider & they are looking to switch.
Edit: Sorry OP. To address your question, if I haven't already made it obvious, I do think Sprint is the best choice.
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+1 to this from me. 10 years with Sprint. True unlimited data FTW!**
**unless you're planning to use BitTorrent on it...then they boot you.
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Don't know about U guys but unlimited data feature of sprint is HUGE to me. Right now I have a sprint MiFi and am really ALWAYS satisfied with data speeds....5-9mbps which is fine with me.
Believe me if I had to spend one minute on their 3G I'd bolt.
I have $35mo unlimited data on their MiFi.
Right now while waiting for SGN2 to drop I'm also on prepaid TMobile $30mo 100min talk unlimited data unlinited text.
Sprint is amazing and has some of the best customer service I've ever experienced.
hirent said:
Sprint's data speeds really suck, especially inside buildings.
You might want to get a hotspot and test it out for a month.
Go around the areas you frequent and run speed tests.
Or buy a cheapo Sprint phone off CL and get a month of service. This way you can use it for as long as you wish and then cancel if you don't like the service since you aren't in a contract.
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Listen to this guy. Seen replies where sprint can be great or plainly suck ass. Seemms it's location dependent so listen to this guy!
I've had Sprint for about 8 years and I can't stand it.
3G data is miserable. They are going with 1900Mhz LTE network, bad building penetration as opposed to Verizon's 900Mhz. . I'm probably going to Verizon, they rock in Los Angeles. Yes, I'm going to deal with the Devil.
I only pay about $50+tax for the SERO plan, if I switch I will end up paying twice as much for similar plan. SERO is like 500mins, unlimited text and data. I read on my bill it said unlimited data roaming also, but I never have tried that. Still it's too cheap to switch over for me.
UTStarcom probably the absolute worst time to compare sprint with the network upgrades taking place. Living in an area that is nearing halfway completion I can tell you yeah,it's long over due (though they are less then a year behind att's start to their still ongoing lte rollout)
Currently I have both Sprint and Att phones.
Call quality for me in Dallas is awesome...and let is comparable if not faster.
We still have the same issues we have always had on att...and speeds slowing compared to when lte went live in Dallas last October
Both have made huge customer service improvements and both are actively working on their network
That being said...check s4g4u.com for speculated upgrade schedule, compare prices w/usage habbits and make a decision.
For me...the unlimited data is a no brainer...but I live in a strong sprint market
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i have sprint and want out. 3g is more like whatever is slower than 1x and unless you're in a major market in first lte rollout you won't have it for quite a while, making you stuck on 3g. Wimax hasn't supported many areas and the rollout was slow. research before committing
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morphiend said:
i have sprint and am leaving as well. thinking about the note 2 on tmobile but really want an exynos 5250 phone so we'll see if i can hold out till the gs4. either way i'm done with sprint and their crappy network.
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i agree with you guys. just got done talking to tmobile. i think ill get the galaxy note 2 with them. idc that its only hspa+ 42mbps, that holds its own with the lte networks now anyway. plus, theyll cheaper than what i pay sprint
Just check your local area, graba phone from both and prepaay to test it out.
I hate ATT, because I pay 160 a month for 2 phones, and could be paying 100 with someone else.
Sprint sucks. I've been with all 4 major carriers. For where I live in my state I'd put it in this order.
1. Verizon Wireless
2. T-Mobile (Now true unlimited, NO throttling)
3. at&t (A lot of dropped calls)
4. Prepaid carriers
5. Sprint (Unusable data speeds) and I had wimax with them, it wasn't impressive, maybe 1mb download speeds, for 4G that sucks. I would get some of my texts and calls really late. Like a day or two later. I was like wtf? This voicemail was from 3 days ago? I will never go back to Sprint.

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