The Gingerbread build that made its way out to European Galaxy S handsets over the weekend has now been halted, on account of an unspecified issue that has been identified after release. Vodafone reports that it's Google who's actually responsible for temporarily suspending the Android 2.3 delivery over Kies, although the problem is apparently not universal -- Voda's Galaxy S devices are said to be unaffected, which is why the carrier's working hard to get things rolling again as soon as possible.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/19/samsung-galaxy-s-gingerbread-update-pulled-by-google-coming-b/
WTF?
Maybe they are starting to solve the bugs that we have reported? (multitouch issue in primis)
Samsung Norway says: minor problem with camera.
No gingerbread withou the screen off animation so google is telling samsung that they cannot remove this effect or the keyboard or the notification bar
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No gingerbread withou the screen off animation so google is telling samsung that they cannot remove this effect or the keyboard or the notification bar
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hope you're right!
So what`s the issue? Should I be worried?
That's why I didn't updated
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That's why I didn't updated
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Me too. The fact that the update wasnt available shortly after its appearance made me think twice if I would update or not. Thank god i could resist Also its working like a charme for some people.
that are google exclusive features which are only available on AOSP and Google devices like Nexus and Nexus S, you won't see this on HTC, LG,.......... so for sure not the issue.
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No gingerbread withou the screen off animation so google is telling samsung that they cannot remove this effect or the keyboard or the notification bar
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Maybe the call delay bug?
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...you won't see this on HTC, LG,.......... so for sure not the issue.
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Except on the HTC Desire HD (and probably other HTC devices) using CyanogenMod 7, that has that on/off animations as well.
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Except on the HTC Desire HD (and probably other HTC devices) using CyanogenMod 7, that has that on/off animations as well.
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Not in any STOCK fw in any phone has CRT-animation(except nexus phones).
As Samsung use the Hardware Id: "herring", which is actually reserved for the Nexus 2, that could be an issue. That also mean that Samsung use the base from Nexus 2 and modified it. Google could be a bit upset about this.
think they will fix the problem with the systembar crash. Factory Reset solves that problem, but they will certainly have it in order. mulitouch in maps I hope they will fix.
Maybe som of you have found more bugs?
I think the phone works much better with 2.3.3.
Battery consumption is much better!
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As Samsung use the Hardware Id: "herring", which is actually reserved for the Nexus 2, that could be an issue. That also mean that Samsung use the base from Nexus 2 and modified it. Google could be a bit upset about this.
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if so it would seem everyone is against Samsung at the moment...Google and Apple haha
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As Samsung use the Hardware Id: "herring", which is actually reserved for the Nexus 2, that could be an issue. That also mean that Samsung use the base from Nexus 2 and modified it. Google could be a bit upset about this.
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Nope. They're plenty happy for Samsung to use their code as a base.
this may be the issue, whenever I enter the facebook mobile site, since 2.3.3 update it recognizes my phone as a nexus s, asking me to "download facebook for your Nexus S". So maybe samsung didnot port it appropriately.
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As Samsung use the Hardware Id: "herring", which is actually reserved for the Nexus 2, that could be an issue. That also mean that Samsung use the base from Nexus 2 and modified it. Google could be a bit upset about this.
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this may be the issue, whenever I enter the facebook mobile site, since 2.3.3 update it recognizes my phone as a nexus s, asking me to "download facebook for your Nexus S". So maybe samsung didnot port it appropriately.
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or facebook does not parse the useragentstring right^^
who knows, it's either some bug we already discovered (I'm guessing Android System battery update drain whatever) or something that samsung did or did not do that was against some agreement or something
or it's a killer bug that morphs our phones into sparkling vampires at dawn
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if so it would seem everyone is against Samsung at the moment...Google and Apple haha
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Haha Google can't possibly be against Samsung. The i9000 done wonders for android and so will Galaxy S2 plus the Nexus S. It's just Apple at the moment, which baffles me, theres only so much a touchscreen phone can look like lol >_<
I think maybe the "android os" consumption! 60% within 1,5 hours is to much!
Related
Anyone know if hardware its gonna be the same etc
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Anyone know if hardware its gonna be the same etc
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more than likely
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Anyone know if hardware its gonna be the same etc
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put it this way... the G1 runs 2.2, we walk on the moon, we give millions of dollars to Justin Bieber, Obama got elected (had to)
Anything is possible.
Leaked specs show it to be just another Galaxy S phone but with Gingrbread. Also, since it has support for T-Mobile's AWS bands, the modem should probably work, too. It's basically the Vibrant but with a front-facing camera (which we can mod in anyways). I'll be shocked if there isn't a port within days of the Nexus S being released. And hell, Samsung and T-Mo should make the damn firmware downloadable to us! (OK, that last part will never happen...well, not officially
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http://phandroid.com/2010/11/11/int...s-nexus-s-specs-confirms-t-mobile-as-carrier/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/11/google-nexus-s-is-the-samsung-gt-i9020/
I mean, this is the exact same phone we have but with the front-facing camera installed.
So can we get the rear camera to work with no banding with some firmware from this being ported over? I think that's the best thing of porting over some stuff from this phone.
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I mean, this is the exact same phone we have but with the front-facing camera installed.
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Not directly @donut, but...
The point of it being a NEXUS is that it is the most open phone. The nexus is the android development phone. It is pure android with all support coming straight from google! Everyone should hope this is not just a rumour. This would hopefully get us 2.3 & more on the fast track.
Of course there are specifics that may not translate but here's to hoping : cheers:!
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Not directly @donut, but...
The point of it being a NEXUS is that it is the most open phone. The nexus is the android development phone. It is pure android with all support coming straight from google! Everyone should hope this is not just a rumour. This would hopefully get us 2.3 & more on the fast track.
Of course there are specifics that may not translate but here's to hoping : cheers:!
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Well said. The phone is real. All we need is to confirm the hardware is exactly the same (except the camera part). If the hardware is the same, that makes things easier. As the ROM chefs/devs here have shown, porting is doable among Galaxy S phones with the hardware being so similar.
I honestly think we will get gingerbread before froyo
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Hopefully this will completely free us from samsung's awful rfs as well.
Its a rumor, but I heard that it was being delayed to put in a dual core hummingbird.
http://www.afterdawn.com/news/artic...cause_android_2_3_not_optimized_for_dual-core
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I honestly think we will get gingerbread before froyo
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I usually don't participate in the "When is ______ coming to the Vibrant?" chaos, but I thought that was really funny.
Nice job.
Do you guys think the vibrant could handle this? But I'm sure the development here will someday get it working. Your thoughts?
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It can handle it easily nexus S is pretty much same hardware an y wouldn't u want it its the future
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Personally Im a little let down if that really is ics. We were told it'd be a whole new ui no? Plus blue is not my color anyways.
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Personally Im a little let down if that really is ics. We were told it'd be a whole new ui no? Plus blue is not my color anyways.
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Its not even close to being done do the kernel is not even updated do an the person who leaked it said its a work in process it's alpha they got something up there sleeve
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Personally Im a little let down if that really is ics. We were told it'd be a whole new ui no? Plus blue is not my color anyways.
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What's Gingerbread missing that you want so bad from IceCreamSandwich?
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Do you guys think the vibrant could handle this? But I'm sure the development here will someday get it working. Your thoughts?
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oh... i thought you meant like... you know.. a real ice cream sandwich... im disappointed :\
The Nexus S supports ICS so our Vibrants should run it just fine. A Nexus S is basically the same hardware as a Galaxy S with NFC support. Unfortunately I don't think we'll be getting any official ICS from Samsung. We have yet to even see Gingerbread, although Tmobile also has a say in it. I've already decided to either get the Samsung Hercules or Nexus Prime to replace my age old Vibrant. I'm leaning towards the Nexus Prime simply for first-served updates directly from Google.
Looking at the leak that could have just been edited GB, I mean any of the devs here could have made that.
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The Nexus S supports ICS so our Vibrants should run it just fine. A Nexus S is basically the same hardware as a Galaxy S with NFC support. Unfortunately I don't think we'll be getting any official ICS from Samsung. We have yet to even see Gingerbread, although Tmobile also has a say in it. I've already decided to either get the Samsung Hercules or Nexus Prime to replace my age old Vibrant. I'm leaning towards the Nexus Prime simply for first-served updates directly from Google.
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What really sucks is I just started 2year plan I thought this was a new phone lol so who knows what they will have in 2 years.
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What really sucks is I just started 2year plan I thought this was a new phone lol so who knows what they will have in 2 years.
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lol that sucks but this phone is not too bad compared to new phones ive had mine for a while but im still satisfied with it, ive had honeycomb run on my vibrant, not fully functioning but it runs so why not ice cream
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lol that sucks but this phone is not too bad compared to new phones ive had mine for a while but im still satisfied with it, ive had honeycomb run on my vibrant, not fully functioning but it runs so why not ice cream
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Exatly
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We dont even have (official) GB fully functioning, so I wont think about any further for vibrant
I could really care less about Ice Cream Sandwhich for the Vibrant. Update is released in December, we wait at least 6 or so months for CM8 to be stable, the new update may pose new problems upon the existing ones, and by then the phone is 2 years old already. Touchwiz already offers GPU-acceleration in its launcher and browser, and for the most part, the current Honeycomb GPU acceleration is still lacking compared to that of iOS or WP7 (app drawer, screen rotation, and homescreen animation still lags a little). Not really expecting much of ICS.
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I could really care less about Ice Cream Sandwhich for the Vibrant. Update is released in December, we wait at least 6 or so months for CM8 to be stable, the new update may pose new problems upon the existing ones, and by then the phone is 2 years old already. Touchwiz already offers GPU-acceleration in its launcher and browser, and for the most part, the current Honeycomb GPU acceleration is still lacking compared to that of iOS or WP7 (app drawer, screen rotation, and homescreen animation still lags a little). Not really expecting much of ICS.
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Well I don't expect alot either but they could surprise us.
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I could really care less about Ice Cream Sandwhich for the Vibrant. Update is released in December, we wait at least 6 or so months for CM8 to be stable, the new update may pose new problems upon the existing ones, and by then the phone is 2 years old already. Touchwiz already offers GPU-acceleration in its launcher and browser, and for the most part, the current Honeycomb GPU acceleration is still lacking compared to that of iOS or WP7 (app drawer, screen rotation, and homescreen animation still lags a little). Not really expecting much of ICS.
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No uhh not really its suppose to make android one cross all platforms so transition to new version should be much better than it was for CM7 an there still gonna update international galaxy s we will see ICS soon cuz u can port over since its so similar an Google yet to fail me except for Gingerbread
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We dont even have (official) GB fully functioning, so I wont think about any further for vibrant
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actually its pretty much fully functioning ever since they got gps somewhat fixed last month now its really good compared to build 1 when i used that
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actually its pretty much fully functioning ever since they got gps somewhat fixed last month now its really good compared to build 1 when i used that
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For me gps works when it wants not when i want, its not what i called fully fixed. I always get back to froyo after using cm7 for a week.
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No uhh not really its suppose to make android one cross all platforms so transition to new version should be much better than it was for CM7 an there still gonna update international galaxy s we will see ICS soon cuz u can port over since its so similar an Google yet to fail me except for Gingerbread
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Yes, it is going to make Android the same across all Nexus branded platforms. Touchwiz, Sense, and Blur are not going anywhere and the manufacturers still have to modify ICS for each individual device. The Galaxy S is done for official support, period. Samsung is not making any more money from the original Galaxy S compared to the SII; most owners of the original have or will already have switched devices so Samsung has no true need to update the international version. Google's 18 month update suggestion was what it was, a suggestion, and by the time December comes, the Galaxy S is about 18 months old anyways.
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actually its pretty much fully functioning ever since they got gps somewhat fixed last month now its really good compared to build 1 when i used that
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I tried multiple builds and just couldn't get reasonable battery life. I got tired of charging through usb at work. With my usage and location I get about 24 hours on undervolt 2.2 builds.
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Yes, it is going to make Android the same across all Nexus branded platforms. Touchwiz, Sense, and Blur are not going anywhere and the manufacturers still have to modify ICS for each individual device. The Galaxy S is done for official support, period. Samsung is not making any more money from the original Galaxy S compared to the SII; most owners of the original have or will already have switched devices so Samsung has no true need to update the international version. Google's 18 month update suggestion was what it was, a suggestion, and by the time December comes, the Galaxy S is about 18 months old anyways.
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Really only time can tell what they do
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Any chance that some if this could be ported to our phone? For example the siri clone or the floating video player or whatever it is that keeps the screen on when you are looking at it
http://t.co/aNQfcFjs
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Yes but do I even have to mention it has different hardware
Very very very very very unlikely
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Very very very very very unlikely
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Maybe I should have been more specific. I don't mean the ROM. I meant some of the features from the new touchwiz. Like the one where the screen won't turn off if you are looking at it.
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Maybe I should have been more specific. I don't mean the ROM. I meant some of the features from the new touchwiz. Like the one where the screen won't turn off if you are looking at it.
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This, yes that is alot easier and more along the lines I would actually bother to download it.
I was able to install s-voice. Im running AOKP build 36. Its works some times. Sometimes it FC, also another thing that happens is the audio being outputted through the earpiece instead of the back speaker.
Any chance of getting the no shutter lag ported over from the 3 to us?
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Any chance of getting the no shutter lag ported over from the 3 to us?
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No that is a hardware issue
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No that is a hardware issue
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damn i figured that it might be hardware but i thought maybe some how software might fix it or something in the kernel thanx
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damn i figured that it might be hardware but i thought maybe some how software might fix it or something in the kernel thanx
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The kernel is all one file (at least when they are already packaged). You cant just pull pieces
Anyone know how to make an icon pack out of the stock icons to use with desktop visualizer? I like the look of the s3 icons.
Edit: Here are the GSIII icons if anyone wants them
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25872964
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I've got the rom ported to where it boots to the boot animation, but my dev PC's power supply took a sh!t.
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I've got the rom ported to where it boots to the boot animation, but my dev PC's power supply took a sh!t.
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Just wondering if you got that power supply fixed.
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So how come we don't at least take touchwiz 4.0 off the blaze? it's got pretty much the same hardware. I'm all for ICS, but would really like a update to Touchwiz.
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So how come we don't at least take touchwiz 4.0 off the blaze? it's got pretty much the same hardware. I'm all for ICS, but would really like a update to Touchwiz.
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We are already on TW4.0. And I think it has other hardware differences too, but not sure. The Galaxy S3 is on TW5
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I'm excited
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I'm excited
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I have a Note and almost all those have been ported/pulled. Take a trip to the i717 forums and see if the pulled .APKs work.
The galaxy s1 had Ports that were crazy coming from the vibrant I know with experience. I guess its difficult with so few devs or I don't know. The vibrant was truly a sublime experience. Too bad that carrier phones don't get good specs or source codes or updates for that matter or this phone would be as fun as the nexus or the international s2. But hey we get burned by the American market every time. If we could get universal technology it would be a bigger market all together.
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Any chance that some if this could be ported to our phone? For example the siri clone or the floating video player or whatever it is that keeps the screen on when you are looking at it
http://t.co/aNQfcFjs
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This is too freaking cool!
floating vid app is on the market
With the S4 just weeks away from the final release presumably directly on 4.2.2 wouldn't have been a very smart idea to have something similar to that for S3 'accidentally' leak towards XDA so that Samsung could have many thousands of highly-qualified beta-testers iron-out most of the last-second surprises? Since the 4.2.1 leak was not looking very convincing to me, and it looked like it really needed more extra testing ...
I find a little strange that... Samsung still updating the S3
I find it a little strange how you expect someone to risk their job for you.
Do we have an ETA for 4.2 update?
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I find it a little strange how you expect someone to risk their job for you.
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Well a common theory is that Samsung are themselves responsible for the leaks, or at the very least, very much aware of, but indifferent to their occurrence.
And it makes sense. So many development ROMs get leaked, it seems odd to think that they would have NO way to prevent, or at least reduce, them if they wanted to.
IMHO makes business sense, when you think about it...
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I'm sure we will get a leak when they have something worth leaking, alpha testing is more than likely conducted in house, for obvious reasons, and I wouldn't expect a 4.2.x update for at least 8 weeks after the s4 release.
My opinion about leaks is that Samsung does use XDA for a cheeky bit of beta testing, when they have safe stuff to release, but I don't think they are stupid enough to release alpha stuff to the, let's face it, dubious skills of your average xda end user!
And if anyone did try leaking an alpha, I'm pretty sure they would get hung out to dry!
....but then I might be completely wrong!
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That 4.2.1 leak we got was pretty alpha and generally unusable... I'm pretty sure that one accidently got out because we're used to samsung leaks having a few bugs, but that version wasn't even near done.
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That 4.2.1 leak we got was pretty alpha and generally unusable... I'm pretty sure that one accidently got out because we're used to samsung leaks having a few bugs, but that version wasn't even near done.
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I'll agree it was no where near complete, but it is very much usable, there weren't any really serious bugs preventing normal usage.
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I'll agree it was no where near complete, but it is very much usable, there weren't any really serious bugs preventing normal usage.
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I had it running for at least 3 weeks myself. The main reason I stopped using it was the battery life. I was getting about 4-6 hours with my 2500mah extended battery and would get pretty warm frequently. I have spare batteries, but it still got to be too much. I don't know if that was common for others, but I have a habit of running a lot of apps at the same time with push notifications and such, I think power management wasn't built out very well so it really impacted my use. The same apps and such get me about 8-10+ hours with the 4.1 roms (nearly double the battery life).
There were a few other little issues as well. I stuck it out longer than usual hoping some more 4.2 leaks would come out, but none did. Even the custom roms releases didn't offer any improvements, just the usual google apps updates.
Not a big deal, I mostly wanted 4.2 because I was hoping for camera updates, widget lockscreen, toggle panel, etc. I liked the widget lockscreen, but they didn't do anything with the camera. The toggle panel didn't prove to be that useful because the 25 toggle mod kinda does that just fine anyway. Other than the 4.2 improvements that samsung included from the stock 4.2 experience, I'm not really in any rush for a 4.2 rom on the S3. Other than smart stay and smart notifications, I really don't use many of the current S3 gimmicks and the S4 software gimmicks are just more of the same. Even google now is much more useful than s-voice.
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I don't think you understood my post - I was suggesting that it would make good business sense for Samsung to make that leak (and some other posters have noted the same thing about the older leak).
The final S4 will face one order of magnitude more competition now than S3 did one year ago, so having bugs that result in many apps not working well or too much power consumption and so on would NOT be good for Samsung, and the only way to test that on a large scale (give that there are no large scale S4 deployment) would be to "fake leak" a 4.2.2 for S3 - which the S3 WILL get anyway in the final form at some point!
Usual is we get a leak its probably a beta test deliberate leak .
Then it takes a fair while before the genuine release rolls out .
XDA cheap beta testers .
jje
I saw someone posted that Samsung will skip 4.2.1 and it will be on 4.2.2 on the official. I also heard rumours that it will be released mid of May, hopefully.
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I saw someone posted that Samsung will skip 4.2.1 and it will be on 4.2.2 on the official. I also heard rumours that it will be released mid of May, hopefully.
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its sad that we have to wait that long
or maybe im just a nexus spoiled brat
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its sad that we have to wait that long
or maybe im just a nexus spoiled brat
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Buy an LG then complain at Samsung upgrades.
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Buy an LG then complain at Samsung upgrades.
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lg? they dont even know what the word update means
i had 2 lg's
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lg? they dont even know what the word update means
i had 2 lg's
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You can't seriously have owned an LG phone and are now complaining at samsung updates.
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You can't seriously have owned an LG phone and are now complaining at samsung updates.
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i had two lg's and im not complaining about because i had lg im complaining because i had a nexus
thats why i said i was spoiled by it as i know Oem phones dont update as fast as google devices(lg and motorola are overkill)
good thing is that samsung is the best android maker(after google) with updates
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You know we started recieving leaks for 4.1.2 when the note 2 came out so I am sure in a few we will see some good leaks.
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But i do think Samsung will first release 4.2.1 without s4 feature and then release 4.2.2 with s4 features same like they did with s2 and s3 (4.1.1 and 4.1.2)
Because if they give us a update directly with s4 features it will affect s4 sales
Anyways it is now heard that android 5.0 is postponed and will not com in Google io so we gave plenty of time for 2 updates
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Does anyone know when we might get the firmware for the i9505 google edition? I'm sure there is much talk about being able to flash this on a regular i9505. I would like to see this used as a better base for all aosp roms in the future. Do you think we have to wait until the 26th release of the device or will we get a leak?
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sirdicholas said:
Does anyone know when we might get the firmware for the i9505 google edition? I'm sure there is much talk about being able to flash this on a regular i9505. I would like to see this used as a better base for all aosp roms in the future. Do you think we have to wait until the 26th release of the device or will we get a leak?
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Tuff question friend.I Really hope to leak 1-2 day before 26th but...We wait and see.
Is it the 26 of this month?
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Is it the 26 of this month?
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Yes.
June 26! Stay tuned.
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I can't wait. Usually there is a leak a couple days early. I hope this is true for Google edition. I can't express how happy I am with this trend of pure google devices. It'll help with the Android fragmentation problem tremendously.
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6 days to go:laugh:
One would hope official roms will lead to big improvements to the likes of CM and Paranoid Android. Also, I'm wondering if it will lead to camera speed and quality improvements over what we currently have with the CM based roms.
Pagnell said:
One would hope official roms will lead to big improvements to the likes of CM and Paranoid Android. Also, I'm wondering if it will lead to camera speed and quality improvements over what we currently have with the CM based roms.
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If it doesn't reach aosp, then there's no way in hell it could ever affect aosp roms in any way whatsoever.
Sammobile is saying something about releasing a test firmware for a flagship device tomorrow...
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TeeeJaay said:
Sammobile is saying something about releasing a test firmware for a flagship device tomorrow...
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Hope they're talking about the i9505.
Theshawty said:
If it doesn't reach aosp, then there's no way in hell it could ever affect aosp roms in any way whatsoever.
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Indeed. But given that it generally happens to Nexus devices, there is no reason to believe this won't happen to the Nexus edition of the S4 eventually. The binaries for the Nexus 4 were released in March for example and it now has full AOSP support.
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Indeed. But given that it generally happens to Nexus devices, there is no reason to believe this won't happen to the Nexus edition of the S4 eventually. The binaries for the Nexus 4 were released last month for example and it now has full AOSP support.
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But it's Samsung we're talking about
I would hope, seeing that this was announced at Google io, and it will get regular updates just like nexus devices, Google is going to be in charge of software for this endeavor. If that is the case, I'm positive we will get all the goodies that nexus gets. And I guess I'm wrong, but I thought the firmware that comes with nexus' are aosp.
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But it's Samsung we're talking about
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But how much control will Samsung have over Google's policy in this respect? One would hope negligible if any, especially given that the backbone of the device isn't even based on Samsung hardware anyway. If Google's S4 was based on the I9500 it might be a different matter.
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But how much control will Samsung have over Google's policy in this respect? One would hope negligible if any, especially given that the backbone of the device isn't even based on Samsung hardware anyway. If Google's S4 was based on the I9500 it might be a different matter.
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I hope this partnership is a clear and decisive 50/50 deal. Samsung hardware and Google software.
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sirdicholas said:
I hope this partnership is a clear and decisive 50/50 deal. Samsung hardware and Google software.
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We've had that mix before. It was called "Samsung Galaxy Nexus" ^^
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But how much control will Samsung have over Google's policy in this respect? One would hope negligible if any, especially given that the backbone of the device isn't even based on Samsung hardware anyway. If Google's S4 was based on the I9500 it might be a different matter.
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Well i think in respect to S4 Google edition software , Samsung will control next to none, Google will push new software for Google nexus devises including SGS4 and HTC One Google edition in that respect no more delays due to "touch wiz / sense" adaptation
dublinz said:
Well i think in respect to S4 Google edition software , Samsung will control next to none, Google will push new software for Google nexus devises including SGS4 and HTC One Google edition in that respect no more delays due to "touch wiz / sense" adaptation
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But Google still needs Samsung for updated radio's,drivers etc.
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But Google still needs Samsung for updated radio's,drivers etc.
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Do they? How much of the device is actually Samsung hardware that requires Samsung drivers? It's a Qualcomm device. Other than drivers for the bespoke Samsung features like Air View/Gesture and Smart Scroll etc (which Google won't be using anyway) I can't think of anything Google need off Samsung. This is exactly why making AOKP and CM roms has been so easy for the device. The first guy who created a CM rom did it without even owning one .
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