I have a relative who works for Sprint and they are going to get the Nexus S 4G in a week or two when it comes out. I am going to take their Epic off of their hands, upgrading from my Hero.
I was just curious how you all liked it? How does it perform, battery, etc...?
And is it as customizable with ROMs as the Hero is? I've had quite a bit of fun with the Hero, I just think its about time for an upgrade.
Let me know, thanks!
I dont know anything about the Hero. But i'm really happy with my Epic. I have it overclocked at 1.45Ghz. The devs that work on this phone have great support for there work(and more often then not, will help even if its not their's) The Custom roms here are stable. I'm running "SyndicateROM Frozen 1.1.0" with the "VisionKernel v1.2" and can't be happier.
I'm fine with mines. But I've always had a Samsung phone so I'd like to try a new phone for once. I get about 12-14 hrs of use with moderate usage, which is more than enough for me. I always have a battery pack with me just in case but I've never had to use it. I've tried many roms. And I think it is pretty customizable like the hero, but not 100% sure.
I love my Epic; I've had it since September and it has taken a ton of abuse with no issues at all. Roms are all pretty good, but I am currently running on a stripped/rooted EC05 and happy as can be with it.
The performance is outstanding on it; I played the benchmark game going back and forth between roms for the best performance but the bottom line is even stock it is plenty fast... sure it can be made faster, but the phone is just plain fast to begin with.
Battery life is not bad for what it is. I can make it through a day without issue unless I am playing games for hours etc. With normal web and phone usage I will be between 60 and 75% at the end of the work day. If I just blast it all day it will be 30-50% at the end of a work day. If I take it real easy it can go about two days.
I was considering going to the Nexus when it comes out, but I'm not sure I can handle losing the hw keyboard... it was the final deciding factor between the Epic and the Evo for me; and while I use swype 90% of the time (I expected to use the HW KB all the time), that 10% where I really just have to use the HW KB really is necessary for me (doing web based tech support/training sometimes getting client contacts when there isn't a computer accessible). For the keyboard alone it is worth it's weight in gold to me, and if some of my clients knew I was getting them through a crisis on a telephone, they would probably say the same thing
So uh yeah... you'll be happy with it.
i hate it
im getting a nexus as soon as its available on sprint
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great input guys, i appreciate it!
can't wait to get my hands on this baby and play around.
nexus s will blow the epic away.. but as far as an upgrade from a hero.. you'll like it.
The nexus s is the same damn phone just with nfc and gingerbread which we wll be getting soon. I had to get a seido extended..I don't care what people say or what rom they use I couldn't get more then 6ish hours having the phone on with setcpu and not even using 4g or really playing music. I also went through multiple epics so it isn't like I had some bunk battery
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sceptor said:
....I had to get a seido extended..I don't care what people say or what rom they use I couldn't get more then 6ish hours having the phone on with setcpu and not even using 4g or really playing music....
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^^^ Only downside of the Epic in my opinion. It can takes beatings. Mine has been dropped a couple of times. The gorilla glass is awesome. Not even a minute scratch and I've had the phone over a year. Developers are great. Does everything I want and need, and more!
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^^^ Only downside of the Epic in my opinion. It can takes beatings. Mine has been dropped a couple of times. The gorilla glass is awesome. Not even a minute scratch and I've had the phone over a year. Developers are great. Does everything I want and need, and more!
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Umm, it isn't possible that you've had the phone for more than a year lol. Unless, you were in the future for a few months, then came back to launch date.
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I came frpm the htc hero. I love this phone! The development isn't quite as large but the phone's hardware is amazing. The hero had lag in many places and the epic pretty much has none. The epic's GPU is basically the strongest on the market (atleast for sprint, until the evo 3d comes out), so any gaming will work great on the Epic.
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I agree with many of the previous post. The Epic doesn't have as many roms as the hero no true cm rom yet, but it will blow your mind! Very fast stock. My battery on stock, using the hell out it with screen as bright as it gets is usually 8 hours maybe a lill more. On custom roms 10 plus heavy use. Phone is a champ and handles anything thrown at it. You will have the equivalent of the nexus s because they are the same phone I know people holding the s now. The screen alone is amazing and upscales the worst video you can play. All in all you are very lucky to get this upgrade and despite some heads clashing this community will reach out and help you each step of the way myself included. Need anything pm me no hesitation!
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The Epic has excellent hardware. The stock software, on the other hand, ranges from a joke to a nightmare. Plan on putting a custom ROM on it to get the most out of the unit; I run SyndicateROM and the phone performs far better than it did on any of the previous stock ROMs.
I'm very happy with the phone itself, however.
I like it a lot ever since cleaning it up. That's the key to the whole thing I think.
The only issue that I have with my Epic is the Build quality. I feel that Samsung cheapened up the device to the point that it scratches it self from opening and it can be loose. That stuff aside it is an amazing handset and well worth the money.
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The Epic has excellent hardware. The stock software, on the other hand, ranges from a joke to a nightmare. Plan on putting a custom ROM on it to get the most out of the unit; I run SyndicateROM and the phone performs far better than it did on any of the previous stock ROMs.
I'm very happy with the phone itself, however.
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You don't need a custom ROM, IMHO. You just need to remove junk from stock.
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You don't need a custom ROM, IMHO. You just need to remove junk from stock.
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+1 to this. I might not be rooted, but if I did, I know this is all i'd do, right along getting the accurate batery mod.
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You're going to love the phone. The keyboard is the nicest you'll ever get on a phone, its really fast and the screen is going to blow you away. I'm using a custom rom Syndicate Frozen and I have had no problems at all compared to stock.
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I agree with most of the posts in here so far. I love my epic and it is really easy to customize. Personally, I had to make the switch to custom roms not only because of performance increase, but mostly for the battery performance increase. I would get 6 - 8 hours tops on stock off one battery, now I average about 18 hours. It feels weird not carrying my extra battery with me everywhere now!
The devs here are amazing and support their roms very well. Hats off to you guys!
My only problems with the epic are:
1. semi-sketchy opening mechanism. I've had 2 epics and both of them had/have a loose feeling screen after being used a while (to be expected I guess)
2. Lack of fm radio - there are apps to "fix" this though, and I guess I wouldn't really use it that much anyway
3. Lack of tv - out. This is being worked on, but I can't stand the fact this was disabled.
enjoy your new epic!
I haven't come across a ROM yet that improves battery life when the device is being used.
They may help the phone idle and sleep more efficiently but cleaning up the stock ROM does the same thing.
My two biggest improvements came when I froze System Update and removed SNS.
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Friend or someone wants to see your phone... You open your "cool" apps to show them..
Phone freezes, locks up, doesn't operate right..
I swear, I can do whatever I want while alone, at my phone works perfect..
Yesterday I show my friends Slingplayer and Homerun3D, sure enough both programs give me problems..
LOL Was in a bad area for slingplayer to work (it works smoothly all the time) and was lagging.. Of course he was like "its a cool concept but who would would ever deal with the skipping"
LOL I swear it never does this, I tell him..
Then I go to show him the Homerun3D game and of course it locks up on me, lol
It always happens like that,...
Sounds like Murphy is a good friend of yours!
That happens to me sometimes but only when I'm doing something totally unimportant.
Your phone knows that your friends are unworthy to bask in its warm embrace and enlightenment.
It goes into clam mode, shuts up tight and looks like a paperweight until you put it away
That or a bad flash mixed with user error
my windows mobile devices did that all the time, i think i got used to it and only thought about how often it happened when it would screw up in front of a friend.
on evo, i dont have any problems.
not trying to be a smart ass but i bet your using a custom rom.
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my windows mobile devices did that all the time, i think i got used to it and only thought about how often it happened when it would screw up in front of a friend.
on evo, i dont have any problems.
not trying to be a smart ass but i bet your using a custom rom.
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Yea but I use Fresh's custom Rom..
Besides.. Who here actually doesn't use a custom rom?
More than I honestly thought. There is a ton of info on the evo that I find useful, even though I'm rooted stock.
I find my evo to be the most reliable handset I've had since maybe before smartphones were around. I still can't believe I haven't flashed and reinstalled my OS 10 times by now and I have had this since august. Granted I did do some playing around with Roms when I first got it. But every since I decided to give sense an honest shot, I haven't been back to custom.
This is the first android phone for me and the first time I didn't feel the need to tinker around with every little thing.
I loved wm 6.5 but it was still wm, and it was full of reliability issues. I still miss my old touch pro 2 and its kwyboard, but my evo is way more reliable.
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Picture a layer cake filled with froyo between the layers. A leaky app makes a hole in the layer, froyo leaks up and mixes with the next layers froyo, causing it to spill and the bottom to collapse. The maitre'd named NAND tries to restore it so it looks like the picture on the menu.
One day the froyo got real warm and the menus were changed simultaneously. NAND could not restore it and even the picture had changed.
You see the chef had thought it would be faster and take less work to refill the layers, rather than to assemble and build them when they were ordered.
Mural of the story (modern stories all have walls for murals to be posted on) a pair of dimes - standing on edge.
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task killers take bytes out of the cake when your not looking making it fall faster
Yes it happens all the time! Especially at work where the signal is crappy in the building!
if all fails, i just flip the phone over and say "checkit, it has a kickstand!"
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Yes it happens all the time! Especially at work where the signal is crappy in the building!
if all fails, i just flip the phone over and say "checkit, it has a kickstand!"
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More than I honestly thought. There is a ton of info on the evo that I find useful, even though I'm rooted stock.
I find my evo to be the most reliable handset I've had since maybe before smartphones were around. I still can't believe I haven't flashed and reinstalled my OS 10 times by now and I have had this since august. Granted I did do some playing around with Roms when I first got it. But every since I decided to give sense an honest shot, I haven't been back to custom.
This is the first android phone for me and the first time I didn't feel the need to tinker around with every little thing.
I loved wm 6.5 but it was still wm, and it was full of reliability issues. I still miss my old touch pro 2 and its kwyboard, but my evo is way more reliable.
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I actually love sense and do not see why people wouldn't want it..
I also got an extended battery which I only use when I know I will not be near a power source for a while.. I have the Otterbox case and just LOVE IT!! so I try to keep with the stock battery..
That being said I use Fresh's rom, because its pretty much stock with some extra goodies.. And full Sense..
I really don't have problems with my phone.. Its just typical with Murphys law,, lol
Oh,i did think of something crappy.
When I first got my evo,i was telling my friends about how awesome it is and how sweet the camera and video recording is, now my video doesn't seem all that great. In fact in 720p it looks so crappy and choppy that I don't feel like its worth having or using.
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Just get a higher class SD card and replay that oh crappy video quality scenario all over again.
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lol...i can honestly say that I've never experienced that, thank GOD. Have you figured out the root cause?
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I don't get it, r u saying that something higher than what I have will fix the issue? I currently have a 16GB class 2.
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You can get a 32gb card and still have same issues. You need a class 4 or above. If I could remember I'd post direct statement from htc employee. A lot go with a class 6, but anything more than class 4 and its all the same fluff. Class 2 just doesn't write fast enough for Evo's video.
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I think I saw that conversation about the max speed the evo could take advantage of, but I thought I read some where anything beyond class 2 carries no benefit in how well our evos record video in 720p.
Mine is choppy outside in sunlight and simetimes the video out right freezes for a split second. As far recording inside its so low quality that I don't even try to record.
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So my evo is starting to act up, wondering if the epic would be a viable replacement?
Anyone done this or have any input on it?
Mostly use my phones for the tether, texting and killing time at work.
Thanks for any help!
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Not much of an upgrade unless you want the keyboard or a slightly better screen if you ask me. If your phone is acting up it may be software related? Try flashing a different ROM or something
Could be rom, but Im thinking the meeting with the concrete today may have something to do with it to be honest.
Could be warranty time. Lol.
I'll try a different Rom in a bit.
Cyanogen mod time.
But nothing really better than the evo then?
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Could be rom, but Im thinking the meeting with the concrete today may have something to do with it to be honest.
Could be warranty time. Lol.
I'll try a different Rom in a bit.
Cyanogen mod time.
But nothing really better than the evo then?
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The Epic is better then an EVO overall..but it boils down to is it worth for you to spend money buying a new one...
your usage is mostly fairly simple, I guess you'd have better time texting if you use the physical kb I guess...or if by killing time you mean running high end games..then Epic would definitely be an improvement..
I mean what do you mean by "acting up" and "killing time"..be a bit specific?
I'll tell you this though Epic runs really awesome stock with little to no issues...
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Could be rom, but Im thinking the meeting with the concrete today may have something to do with it to be honest.
Could be warranty time. Lol.
I'll try a different Rom in a bit.
Cyanogen mod time.
But nothing really better than the evo then?
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Let us answer that question after official froyo is released and/or Cyanogen mod is fully ported.
I have had 5 random restarts, seem to all happened during data usuage, but I haven't had random ones on this phone before. Trying to strain the phone some more now.
My usuage for my phone is mostly just the tether/wifi tether, facebook chat, texting, mp3 player occasionally, haven't really gotten into gaming on the phone.
I know it may me being paranoid... And I haven't bought a new phone in a while haha.
And anyone swype on their epic? Or is everyone all die hard keyboard?
Thanks everyone
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I just recently got the epic over the evo, due to the beautiful screen and so far I'm thrilled. The Evo is a very nice phone and I'd say on par with the epic but the epic has the keyboard along with a super amoled screen. Some say the 8MP camera is a plus for the evo but personally I'd rather have a samsung 5mp than a htc 8mp, just due to their reputation. But both take beautiful pics, so it really comes down to is the keyboard and amoled with gorilla glass worth it for you? I rarely use the slide out, mostly swype, but for long emails, texts, etc the slide out is extremely useful!
So evaluate the pros / cons and see if its worth it for you! I'm more than happy I went with the epic!
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D3luSi0n4L
I agree with D3luSi0n4L, you just need to evaluate the pros/cons as they pertain to you. I'm overall pleased with my Epic because IMO the screen quality is superior and I like to have a physical keyboard (especially when traveling, Emulators play nicely with keyboards ) The only hangup with the Epic is the lackluster support from Samsung. If you really like playing with new ROMs and constantly tweaking your phone, then the EVO will be better for you. Lets face it, HTC phones just have more support behind them. Hell, even the Hero is still getting updates...
Like i said, figure out what's most important to you and go from there.
The epic is a viable replacement. Its noticeably smaller though, even if its only .3 inches. That might make a difference. Other than that its basically the same+keyboard. And froyo isn't out officially yet. and there's a considerable difference in development for the epic and evo...so you might wanna take that into account too, although stock dk28 froyo is good enough. I've been running it since it firs got leaked and my gps is perfect and everythin else works. Even the browser. Wen froyo is officially released, this phone will easily beat evo
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Oh and swype is preinstalled lol
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Evo has Swype since last week's update.
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That's a downgrade if you ask me, I have both unless you game and watch movies. The Evo is a better daily functional phone, hands down.
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Basically the phones are very similar. You should try to see about that warranty before you drop a load of cash on a phone that isn't all that different. Are you out of warrantee/due for an upgrade? T-Mobile Nexus S looks yummy
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That's a downgrade if you ask me, I have both unless you game and watch movies. The Evo is a better daily functional phone, hands down.
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Will have to agree with this statement. But again, this is MY OWN personal thoughts on it. I have both phones as well and I find myself using my EVO a lot more than my Epic. Not saying that the Epic is not a good phone because it is a good phone.
At the end of the day though, its all in what YOU want and what works best for YOU. Thats something no one can speak on. Either way, your in a win-win! GOOD LUCK!
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I have had 5 random restarts, seem to all happened during data usuage, but I haven't had random ones on this phone before. Trying to strain the phone some more now.
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I remember hearing someone say they had this issue on multiple EVOs..not sure if its true or not but this is not an issue on the Epic.
My usuage for my phone is mostly just the tether/wifi tether, facebook chat, texting, mp3 player occasionally, haven't really gotten into gaming on the phone.
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Well both phones can do what you want...things come to mind is our Inferstructure tethering is right now 2.1 only, hopefully will be fixed soon..if ad hoc or wire tethering is what you need 2.2 works...as for mp3, we got 5.1 surround sound option if you have headsets that support it..
I know it may me being paranoid... And I haven't bought a new phone in a while haha.
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Boils down to your financials..I say go play with an Epic at the store to get a feel for it before deciding though...you can load up 2.2 on their demo phones while they arent looking too lol
And anyone swype on their epic? Or is everyone all die hard keyboard?
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A lot of people use swype..most ppl use kb for long messages and gaming...in my case I need kb for remote desktop programming in emergencies...I use on screen kb by default...but I do enjoy using the physical kb for when surfing the net..I so hate using the onscreen kb when surfing webpages on all phones in general..mostly since..
1) web is ment to be surfed vertical resolution anyways
2) the onscreen kb popping up is a mess that blocks my screen :/
hence the physical KB makes surfing the net more enjoyable for me at least..
If you would like to know what we got going over the EVO its:
1) Better processor
2) 3x better GPU
3) 6 axis accelometer
4) super amoled
5) keyboard
6) Better camera
7) Better Audio
8) Gorilla Glass
9) Built in video drivers such as xvid/divx/mkv etc
10) and more...
and probably a few other things I'm missing...I'm not saying the Epic has no flaws..but its definitely a step up hardware spec wise..
I just had to say that I'm loving this phone. I just got it today and I'm damn near in tears right now! I put on 2.2.1 and I think im set for forever. This phone crushes the Evo in every way...Well..some may bring up updates and bla bla but look at it this way. Gingerbread on the Evo is gonna be like Froyo on the Hero.The Evo just doesnt have the hardware to actually benefit from what they are trying to do with Gingerbread...The Evo simply can't play high end games no matter what's going on and after running Gingerbread on my Evo...its basically 2.2.1 on this Epic but with the different UI and keyboard. Long live Epic!
Its ok I feel.the way you do. At least your post wasn't a post about why don't we have froyo yet. Glad you love your phone. Are you putting any custom roms on it? Trust me you'll love it even more if you pit bonsai rom on it.
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I used the same old-fashioned cell phone for 10 years until I switched to a smartphone for the first time last September with the Epic 4G. Quite a shock, but well worth the careful wait.
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Its ok I feel.the way you do. At least your post wasn't a post about why don't we have froyo yet. Glad you love your phone. Are you putting any custom roms on it? Trust me you'll love it even more if you pit bonsai rom on it.
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Ah, Froyo..well...to be honest, the Froyo for the Evo was pretty weak. It ran the same as 2.1, felt the same...only the sense from the Desire HD and Z and I think myTouch 4G actually have the real Froyo. The Evo just has the rushed Froyo >.< I'd much rather wait months for the real deal than the rushed one. And I just put some DK28 rom on it..like I said, I just got it today so if I'm sounding like an idiot please forgive me haha. I havent got the time to go through all of the posts in the Dev section. I did however go through the Dev section and look at some of the roms but there weren't many pics for most of em. I'd like to have the "stock" experience..I dont like themed roms. Is Bonsai themed?
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I used the same old-fashioned cell phone for 10 years until I switched to a smartphone for the first time last September with the Epic 4G. Quite a shock, but well worth the careful wait.
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You must've been blown away...this Epic is no entry level smartphone...this is the real deal. Looks like you may be set for another 10 years haha. I know I wont be changing phones for a while.
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I'd like to have the "stock" experience..I dont like themed roms. Is Bonsai themed?
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The Frankenstein ROM strips away everything to reveal an even more stock stock. Very clean.
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did however go through the Dev section and look at some of the roms but there weren't many pics for most of em. I'd like to have the "stock" experience..I dont like themed roms. Is Bonsai themed?
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Bonsai has it theme in a separate file so you can have the stock look or add the theme. And your timing is perfect, their new install process has streamlined everything to an amazing degree. I almost wish you'd started a week ago with the old way so you could appreciate what they've done
Yeah, I can't agree more. The ROM developers have made my Epic amazing.
Ya people hyped up the hero and the update was lame...
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Ya people hyped up the hero and the update was lame...
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What?
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What?
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I referenced the Hero in the first post.
ms79723 said:
I just had to say that I'm loving this phone. I just got it today and I'm damn near in tears right now! I put on 2.2.1 and I think im set for forever. This phone crushes the Evo in every way...Well..some may bring up updates and bla bla but look at it this way. Gingerbread on the Evo is gonna be like Froyo on the Hero.The Evo just doesnt have the hardware to actually benefit from what they are trying to do with Gingerbread...The Evo simply can't play high end games no matter what's going on and after running Gingerbread on my Evo...its basically 2.2.1 on this Epic but with the different UI and keyboard. Long live Epic!
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i just switched to the epic too.
fixxxer2008 said:
i just switched to the epic too.
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welcome to the epic side fixxer
just be calm here
First time rooting a phone here cw3 ext4 flashed 2.2.1 running incredibly fast. So glad I didnt follow my friends to the evo
The part about Gingerbread on the Evo. The Hero had heaps of problems, and coming from that phone, I have to say I disagree with the board angry at Samsung b/c the Hero, G2 or whatever T-Mobile's version and quite a few other phones were all *****ing about updates....and their updates didn't do much.
So Fixxxer can we get Fresh on here too? You guys pumped up my Hero
The Epic was my second smartphone - quite a step up from the HTC Hero, which later died on me.
I live in Canada and bought this phone for $300 no contract off of eBay, brand new (apparently, the seller said that it had a bad ESN, although I don't really care), and while it does have it's flaws (poor battery life, although the Evo also suffered from this and I'm told that the Evo has worse battery life), a bad GPS (calibrating the GPS can fix it), overheating issues when gaming, and a keyboard that misses keys), it's an otherwise good phone. After playing around with other Galaxy S variants, the Desire HD, Desire Z, Nexus One, Sony X10, and a few LG handsets, I wouldn't trade this phone for any other Android phone released in 2010.
Welcome to the Epic community!
sauron0101 said:
The Epic was my second smartphone - quite a step up from the HTC Hero, which later died on me.
I live in Canada and bought this phone for $300 no contract off of eBay, brand new (apparently, the seller said that it had a bad ESN, although I don't really care), and while it does have it's flaws (poor battery life, although the Evo also suffered from this and I'm told that the Evo has worse battery life), a bad GPS (calibrating the GPS can fix it), overheating issues when gaming, and a keyboard that misses keys), it's an otherwise good phone. After playing around with other Galaxy S variants, the Desire HD, Desire Z, Nexus One, Sony X10, and a few LG handsets, I wouldn't trade this phone for any other Android phone released in 2010.
Welcome to the Epic community!
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Let me tell you something sir...the issues like battery life and overheating are here but when compared to the Evo..I wouldnt even call them issues really.
With my Evo, battery life was so bad...I wish I could tell you how bad. Some people may say "its not that bad once you get a kernel" but it is that bad. This DK28 kernel gave me 7 hours with some pretty heavy usage, when i needed to charge it, i was at 10%...and I had 4G enabled the whole time. Thats not possible with the Evo at all...with how I was using the phone, I'd probably only get 3.5 hours. Battery life is abysmal. The worst thing I've ever seen on a smartphone.
Now with the overheating...this phone does some weird stuff. I cant understand it really...the battery temp stays around 80...thats the same with the Evo. While in use, the temp goes up to 86...thats with a lot of usage (listening to music and browsing). And then after it being at 86 for a while...it drops down to 83 while its still in use. Can the Evo do that? Hell no. The Evo goes from 80 to 96 in a New York minute, then continues to increase! You have to use setCPU profiles for screen off just to try to manage the temperature...its terrifying. So I mean...yeah the Epic heats up and what not and the battery aint 18 hours with heavy usage out of the box, but when it is compared to these HTC phones, this phone just looks perfect.
And i dont really want to start posting comments where im comparing the Evo and Epic but Im just so blown away...I mean, I put so much time into the Evo and its basically all I know but now that I have this Epic..this device is just so damn perfect, I cant stop talking about it..cant stop posting about it...this is how an android phone should be. I mean omg...has anyone ever looked at how it reads the voltages and temperature on here? Samsung has done it all right...its timers are spot on so when you use apps like Battery Indicator Pro, you can actually see differences because of the better timers. The Epic also has better voltage-percentage battery readings...while the Evo is all over the place. It will say 100% is 4.135V and then 99% is 4.035V then 98% would be 4.111V...I hated that. And because the Evo did that, you would always experience random drops in percentage after waking the phone up because it only checked the battery voltage when it was awake so..people in the Evo forum would be like "HEY GUYS, I LEFT MY PHONE OFF THE CHARGER FOR X-AMOUNT OF HOURS WHILE I WAS SLEEPING AND DIDNT LOSE A DROP!!" Well..they did in fact lose a lot of power, the phone just didnt match up teh voltages with the percentages while the phone was sleeping, so when they would start using the phone, the phone would drain like crazy while it tried to get to the right percentage. So annoying...
Im sorry for my rambling, I really am...its just that there's so much to compare here...and I dont think anyone's ever mentioned the voltage-percentage readings when comparing the phone, so at least im not saying anything thats been repeated.
Yes...I too am in love with my Epic. That love would be intensified if the keyboard issue was resolved. If our keyboard was better this phone would be on God level...its more Demi-God/Perseus level now. Still an amazing phone.
Quis89 said:
Yes...I too am in love with my Epic. That love would be intensified if the keyboard issue was resolved. If our keyboard was better this phone would be on God level...its more Demi-God/Perseus level now. Still an amazing phone.
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You talking about hitting multiple keys as in the issue? Strange enough..I only do that when Im in will lit areas where I can actually see the outline of the keys. When Im in a dark room and all i have to rely on is the backlight, im all good. But whats worse is that in both scenarios i do hit the other keys a lot, but it only registers one. So im constantly double checking because i hear like 3 clicks but it puts the letter i want up. Its kinda annoying but its all good.
Another thing that bugs me is the damn charging cable. That thing will come out for no reason. With the Evo, it was locked in so good you could give the phone with the cable in to one person and you grab the other end and together you could swing it around and jump rope. I move my phone over an inch and it pops out. But its all good.
And how many people installed the gingerbread theme? This thing is popping...the blacks...ahhhhh i love it. My background is black as well (got it from some backgrounds from the app Grallery. If y'all never used that app for backgrounds, you should check it out. Its a ton of abstract art and it looks amazing). With the black background and the vibrant colors on that background and the black status bar...it looks crazy in a dark room. Doesnt even look like you're holding a damn phone because it all blends in to the dark surrounding your in but yet the colors pop out...its just jaw dropping.
Edit: Going to try Bonsai right now...I hope its not themed...well even if it is..im just going to flash the Gingerbread theme right over it...
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Another thing that bugs me is the damn charging cable. That thing will come out for no reason. With the Evo, it was locked in so good you could give the phone with the cable in to one person and you grab the other end and together you could swing it around and jump rope. I move my phone over an inch and it pops out. But its all good.
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My Epic is nothing like that ..You can plug in the stock charging cable, it snugs in on mine...I don't know about jump roping
But I can certainly, have the Epic dangling in the air by lifting it by the cable And it wont come out
Your cable might be messed up...You might want to try another different one.
I just brought an Atrix. Its coming in the postage and well initially i read reviews from Engadget and such. But what im a to expect? Is the battery life really that great? Oh and i plan to root the device, how do i go about doing that?
So yeah, Im new to android and moving over from WP7.
Personally I miss WP7. I had a focus, but I am more than happy with the Atrix. A lot of the issues people mention here are things that I do not get or notice. I can see the pixels on the screem, but only if I really try to look for them.
One thing the Atrix kills WP7 in is games. I'm playing Galaxy on fire 2 and History Channel Great Battles; they are great and rival my PS3.
I have a HTC trophy, and it really is a let down. Battery life is poor. Lasting maybe 7 hours when idle and when im using it throughout the day, usually it will last for about 4 hours. Camera isnt great, games are really awkward to play, oh and the speaker is crackles regardless of how loud it is. I will admit i do like the music player, the photoviewer and overall UI is really nice. But im sure i can customize android to the same standard. Right? Though, I heard atrix is alot smoother when playing games, but i dont know if it could rival my ps3 haha
I'll be getting one soon as well. can't wait
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your username is perfect OP
I too came from WP7 (lg quantum) and I tell you the Atrix is amazing I've never had any of the issues people reported and the battery really is that great. If you properly charge it from day one (drain the battery then let it charge for a day, and repeat) the battery will be amazing I no lie get around 14hrs of useage and im constantly youtubing, texting, downloading some game or playing a game, but using setcpu I have it underclocked at 816mhz but even at full I would get 10-12 hours of use. And as far as root. My favorite method is gladroot. Its clean neat and seems to work throughout updates.
But thats just my 2 cents
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Thanks Guys, I really cant wait to get my hands on it. Battery life is a big issue with me, considering my phone was at 50% by 8:30 in the morning, and i had only taken it off the charger at 7ish. But to be fair, i had been on youtube and reddit for the hour and a bit. And I learnt today that my speaker doesnt work, its now just plain static. How lovely.
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I just brought an Atrix. Its coming in the postage and well initially i read reviews from Engadget and such. But what im a to expect? Is the battery life really that great? Oh and i plan to root the device, how do i go about doing that?
So yeah, Im new to android and moving over from WP7.
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I use GladRoot because many have had problems with Gingerbreak doing funny things.
You will probably want to get an extra micro usb charger.
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I use GladRoot because many have had problems with Gingerbreak doing funny things.
You will probably want to get an extra micro usb charger.
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I heard motorola has a signed bootloader. Which means no Roms, right? But what else does it limit me doing? But thanks, I probably will use Gladroot.
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I heard motorola has a signed bootloader. Which means no Roms, right? But what else does it limit me doing? But thanks, I probably will use Gladroot.
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There are roms
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I heard motorola has a signed bootloader. Which means no Roms, right? But what else does it limit me doing? But thanks, I probably will use Gladroot.
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There are no custom ROMs or custom kernels available for the Atrix at the moment, there are "pseudo ROMs" that apply themes and hacks etc but still use the Motorola kernel. Supposedly 2nd init will open the door for some true ROMs/kernels in the future, but there is no eta. Dont hold your breathe for an unlocked bootloader like many are doing, there is no reason to expect one. I love CM7 on my Captivate and before that I flashed every ROM to the moon and back.. Hands down the Atrix is a better piece of hardware and is much more of a reliable phone out of the box. I am much more happy with the Atrix in its current state than I ever was with my Captivate running any custom ROM.
Edit: I stand corrected. It seams there is an unlocked bootloader solution being offered by Moto now is some countries and/or on a few leaked builds. Fingers crossed Moto/Att push this update to us also! But as of right now there is no official word. Only speculation and word passed from ear to ear.
With all due respect to the great developers we have here, the Epic 4g, just as stock, not even rooted, with either launcherpro or my current favorite: go launcher ex, plus whatever apps you want is a very good phone.
If I hadn't rooted my phone, the main difference is that I wouldn't be able to use titaniumbackup to make sure if my phone crashes, I can get my app, calls and messages back. I also restart faster because of my root restart button, but that's both minor and almost the full extent of what my phone can do that the next person on stock cannot do.
Oh, I have a bunch of battery and performance tweaks that I don't even understand in my rom. So my phone probably runs smoother and longer for a given intensity of usage than it did out of the box.
But while I am very thankful to the developers for making this phone much better, I'm also thankful to Samsung and Sprint for giving the developers a lot to work with.
If a person around me pulls out an iphone 4s, it has a smaller, duller, more fragile screen, no keyboard, not as good sound since I have voodoo (that too). For me, my phone that came out a year earlier is just better. In fact, I pretty much have the best phone available with a keyboard. Other than its newer clone on Verizon.
I also think 4" may be the optimal screen size for a phone for me. I'm not excited about my next phone two or so years from now having a 4.5" or bigger screen.
On top of that, not everyone does, but I have my phone on Boost mobile (thanks developers here) and pay $45 a month for unlimited 3g, talk and messages. I'm in cell-phone nirvana by 2011 standards.
Sprint and Samsung got me 75% there and the developers at xda brought me the rest of the way home.
Not incorrect on many counts. I was stock until after Froyo except my 1 month test of DK28. Mainly, I'm in agreement that rooting allows you to tidy up the place and put in fresher decorations.
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Not incorrect on many counts. I was stock until after Froyo except my 1 month test of DK28. Mainly, I'm in agreement that rooting allows you to tidy up the place and put in fresher decorations.
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Being I came from WinMo to the Epic, it was nice to see that you didn't have to run a custom rom just to have the phone work.
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Being I came from WinMo to the Epic, it was nice to see that you didn't have to run a custom rom just to have the phone work.
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Exactly !!! I came from TP2 Windows straight to epic and i loved stock, but with the great developers on here i love all the hacks and mods and roms they do!!!
I still don't have a compelling enough reason to switch from rooted stock EC05, although I've tweaked it plenty. I'm sure many roms are great but there's no killer look or feature that's lured me. The phone will be even better once stock GB hits.
I switched back to stock a few weeks back. A few observations:
Battery life is better than it was with any of the ROMs I was running, particularly the ROMs that weren't SRF 1.2. Signal strength is also better than it was with most of the ROMs.
On the other hand, I've noticed an odd issue where my Epic randomly vibrates (like, two quick pulses) and then either crashes or restarts the launcher. Dunno what this is about or why it happens but it's pretty annoying.
I just recently made the switch back to stock as well.. Sometimes you just miss it.
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I switched back to stock a few weeks back. A few observations:
Battery life is better than it was with any of the ROMs I was running, particularly the ROMs that weren't SRF 1.2. Signal strength is also better than it was with most of the ROMs.
On the other hand, I've noticed an odd issue where my Epic randomly vibrates (like, two quick pulses) and then either crashes or restarts the launcher. Dunno what this is about or why it happens but it's pretty annoying.
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Mine would do that without crashing sometimes on stock.
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On the other hand, I've noticed an odd issue where my Epic randomly vibrates (like, two quick pulses) and then either crashes or restarts the launcher. Dunno what this is about or why it happens but it's pretty annoying.
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i get this on stock and custom. i think it may be related to the sd card?
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Mine would do that without crashing sometimes on stock.
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enter260 said:
i get this on stock and custom. i think it may be related to the sd card?
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I don't really recall this happening while rooted. Also, this is a problem that's started happening relatively recently. I was initially running stock for at least six months before ever rooting and I don't recall the Epic ever crashing. I got a bit tired of some of the other issues with ROMs and went back to stock again last month. Maybe I'll get the thing checked out at a Sprint store.
Yes, the Epic is a great phone stock, but a large percentage of your reasoning still great came from modified content.
What I took from your post was was: the stock Epic is a great phone, and the devs at XDA provide the few needed tweaks to fix anything that isn't already perfect with it. That's my opinion as well.
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I don't really recall this happening while rooted. Also, this is a problem that's started happening relatively recently. I was initially running stock for at least six months before ever rooting and I don't recall the Epic ever crashing. I got a bit tired of some of the other issues with ROMs and went back to stock again last month. Maybe I'll get the thing checked out at a Sprint store.
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make sure you take it to the one that "accidently" loads Gingerbread on it