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Battery Life on the X10

Ok, so there was a lot of discussion in Z's FreeX10 thread regarding whether it improved/worsened battery life, so I am running a little experiment. With the aid of Juiceplotter I ran for a few days on FreeX10b4, and then on the stock(ish) Rooted JIT 2.1.A.0.435 found here.
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Beta 4 Over 24 Hours
Beta 4 Zoomed in on a period of use
Stock .435 over 24 Hours
Stock .435 zoomed in on a period of use (not the same day as the first image)
Typical use is just web browsing, not games or videos. It certainly looks a little steeper on the Beta4 graph.
Tomorrow I'll flash to the previous baseband and repeat for beta3 vs. Stock. If anyone knows how to make the pictures smaller I'd be grateful... I know how to do it in HTML but I've never posted anything in PHP before!
26/02/2011 Ok, after much delay I'm now running .49 baseband, flashed using Zhidhu's pre-rooted 2.0.2.A.24 found here. As some in the comments have noted, results seem to vary wildly w.r.t. battery life, which is why I thought I'd run tests on them all using the same handset and the same usage (i.e. mine) which should eliminate most variables.

Mine is the best it's ever been personally... Seems like results are extremely varied.

I get a vary of result for example today it has used 49% of the battery in 4 hours o.0
using juice defender but not auto task killer

fiscidtox said:
Mine is the best it's ever been personally... Seems like results are extremely varied.
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I totally agree! My x10i may last even 3 days with moderate use of data and wi-fi, barely 1 if use it like it has to...

. 435 very good battery life here having struggled on beta4
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I think there may be a bit of a battery or power glitch. My phone has stopped charging a couple of times, once at 74%, the other at 92%, and the battery has got quite hot. A swift reboot sorted it.
Generally, I think FreeX10 may be a bit heavier on the battery, but it's really hard to tell because it's so much nicer to use compared to the stock ROM that I think I'm using the phone lots more than I was :-D
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I had some woeful battery time with Freex10Beta3, but then yesterday it was fantastic - sure, I wouldn't get 3 days out of it, but I could have pushed 1.5 easily...
Trouble with battery life is that it isn't an exact science (should be), but it seems you can change nothing, and have some drastic improvements. Or hardly touch the phone one day and it's dead in no time.

My X10 since new always drains my battery in one day, it's not a hardware problem, since i got a replacement, and then a battery replacement, i wish we could improve the batttery life a little more
i'm on BETA4

I'm not gonna say my battery life has been amazing lasting for weeks or anything but ive had no problem with it. I mean it lasts more than a day or maybe more than two with relatively light usage. And if I'm constantly on it I can drain it in 8hrs but I never drain it completely. And I've seen consistent life over the roms I've used as long as the flash was good which sometimes takes a couple times. My mom has one and she uses it only sparingly and it lasts over a week so in reality for having a computer in your pocket the life is not that bad. Besides do you really need to update your twitter status every 6 minutes??
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Nice Idea.
Personally I found that the battery life on Beta 2 was better than Beat 3 and 4.
Is is possibile to add it to your test?
Also the only only diffrence between Beta 3 and Beta 4 is the Baseband...

That's really what I'm testing... however I haven't had time to flash back to the old baseband yet. Real life tends to interfere...
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30% left after 13 hours off heavy usage, no auto killers, wifi on, about an hour talk time.
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Using Bitsnacker's 2.1 ROM on .435; no data, BT, GPS and STILL a strange battery leak I can't seem to trace. F.Y.I. also using SetCPU and AutoTaskiller, and a few Sysctl tweaks, so I may have created conflicts in my ignorance....

I've had a couple of times, since using b4 a weird thing where I plug it in and it drains really fast down to zero while charging. Rebooting seems to fix it though.
If it happens on b3 or stock 2.0.2.A.0.24 I'll know it's a fault with the handset and not a software issue.

Backlight not working correctly on CM7

When pressing the power button to wake my Evo, the bottom four lights always work but sometimes the screen's backlight will not come on but I can see that phone actually did wake. I switched from CM7 to rooted stock for a while to see if it's just a cyanogen issue. So far, the stock ROM hasn't had the backlight issue. Have any other CM users had this same issue?
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david black said:
When pressing the power button to wake my Evo, the bottom four lights always work but sometimes the screen's backlight will not come on but I can see that phone actually did wake. I switched from cm7 to rooted stock for a while to see if it's just a cyanogen issue. So far, the stock ROM hasn't had the backlight issue. Have any other CM users had this same issue?
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Yeah that's a waking issue and it's the kernel.
I have the same issue.
I think some have said that the newest version of tiamat or whatever fixes this.

Thanks! So I have to flash a new kernel to do away with the issue? I really like the stock CM kernel; I can get two days (on average) battery life with it. How does the tiamat kernel do in comparison?
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2 days of battery life? Screenshot please
Swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO

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That was my best ever using CM6. CM7 is just slightly less efficient imo. I haven't taken a screenshot of CM7 b/c it has never topped my previous record.
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david black said:
That was my best ever using CM6. CM7 is just slightly less efficient imo. I haven't taken a screenshot of CM7 b/c it has never topped my previous record.
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Ok so it was on cm6 with pretty much no usage. That makes sense then
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twiz0r said:
Ok so it was on cm6 with pretty much no usage. That makes sense then
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Yes but when using CM7 I only charged it every other night (about 48-hour battery life) unless I happened to fire up Mario 64 on N64oid that day.
Also, how does the tiamat kernel compare to the original CM7 one?
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I flashed the tiamat Evo kernel and the screen's backlight still doesn't come on all the time.
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david black said:
When pressing the power button to wake my Evo, the bottom four lights always work but sometimes the screen's backlight will not come on but I can see that phone actually did wake.
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Same here. Having this problem for long time. Don't recalled if had it with 6 but definitely with the 7 rc's.

I'm still having this problem. Anything ever happen with this?

Turning off automatic brightness and turning on screen-on animation worked for me. Phone wakes up just fine now. Try the automatic brightness option first.
Also, when pushing the power button, if you touch the screen like you are going to unlock it, the screen should come to life.

sirmx said:
Turning off automatic brightness and turning on screen-on animation worked for me. Phone wakes up just fine now. Try the automatic brightness option first.
Also, when pushing the power button, if you touch the screen like you are going to unlock it, the screen should come to life.
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I didn't mess with the auto brightness, but, oddly enough, turning the screen-on animation from on to OFF fixed the backlight issue for me.
I wonder if toggling it one way or another just sets something right that was conflicting or something.
Either way, thanks for the advice!

i just flashed the tiamat 4.1.0 kernel..the backlight for the capacitive worked for like 5 minutes then wont show back up unless i switch the automatic brightness on and off. when i do that and put the fone to sleep and wake it back up, no backlight again. there has to be a fix for this..i love cm7 minus the gps issues (seemed to go away with the tiamat kernel), and the backlight issues.

check it out
david black said:
When pressing the power button to wake my Evo, the bottom four lights always work but sometimes the screen's backlight will not come on but I can see that phone actually did wake. I switched from CM7 to rooted stock for a while to see if it's just a cyanogen issue. So far, the stock ROM hasn't had the backlight issue. Have any other CM users had this same issue?
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i have, but the latest cm7 nightlies haven't had that issue. or you can flash a new kernel. however if you just want a stable rom i would go with decks gb rom. if you click on the link in my sig i have all the working aosp kernels in the attachments and all the links to all the aosp roms. ^_^

Also have had this issue on pretty much every AOSP rom, currently Xplod based on CM7. It's very annoying...happens about half the time I try to unlock my phone. Turning off automatic brightness doesn't work and I've always had the screen on animation turned off. Stock kernel and tiamat 3.3.7 both do it. I can't even get tiamat 4.1.0 to boot so screw that. I really wish I could switch back to Sense as a daily but the display usage bug I have makes the battery last about 4 hours...

Experiences with MIUI

I thought that I would give MIUI a go since I have read great things about it. I have been using CM for a very long time now, so I wasn't expecting to be blown away.
Overall I am pretty impressed with a few caveats. The interface is very nice and I especially like how the notifications drop out of the bar up top, like when you get a text message. I don't need to use handcent anymore to say the least. The built in theme manager is cool and overall the think the menus are easier to use then most roms.
Anyways, the main issue is speed and battery. I read great things about speed but I just don't see it. The homescreen lags, apps are slow to open, and things always seem to lock up on me. I didn't restore from titanium backup, I started fresh. I'm running Savaged Zen 2.2 as my kernel, but the speed seems sluggish no matter the kernel.
The battery life isn't as great as it was on CM7 either. I can barely.make it through a day on MIUI.
Any tips for improving performance before I leap back to CM?

I would stay with Miui for a couple of days and I guarantee you that the battery life will get better, also I would try using tiamat, or godmode kernel they are great.
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How do you change your kernal and which is the best?
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Download kernel.
Put into root directory of sd card.
Boot into recovery
Nand backup (because you never know)
Wipe cache and dalvik cache
Flash kernel
Reboot
Evo HW 003
MIUI 1.5.27 with Tiamat 4.0.3 sbc
Cut Corners theme

Miui is awesome but the lag just kills me. I've tried every kernel out there and nothing changed lol.
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Just flashed miui last night, wanted to see what it was all about. Took me a lil bit to get everything set up but now it's running smooth for me. Lovin it except battery life is killing me, unplugged it just 15 min ago and it dropped 30 percent. Ill probably run this for a week or two then nand back over to synergy or kingdom. Overall though I love the menus of this rom and all the different settings.
Battery dropped another 8 percent in the time it took me to type this.
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s0calstate0fmind said:
Just flashed miui last night, wanted to see what it was all about. Took me a lil bit to get everything set up but now it's running smooth for me. Lovin it except battery life is killing me, unplugged it just 15 min ago and it dropped 30 percent. Ill probably run this for a week or two then nand back over to synergy or kingdom. Overall though I love the menus of this rom and all the different settings.
Battery dropped another 8 percent in the time it took me to type this.
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Try using setcpu with the tiamat 4.0.5 kernel. Maybe your cpu is constantly pegged at its highest frequency so its killing the battery. With set CPU installed I had my Max at 1113 and min at 384 running smartass; I easily got 24 hours with moderate usage. Also download spareparts from the market and make sure your end button has the phone set to sleep.
Here's the free setcpu for xda users.
http://db.tt/eJ143VY
Here's the tiamat kernel.
http://tiamat-aosp.com/ccount/click.php?id=103
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I've used many kernals (mostly CM and MIUI) as they tend to have the least amount of clutter.
I've been very happy with MIUI (been on it for over 5 months) when I used to flash a new rom almost daily.
I've found MIUI (more than any other rom) has "finiky" issues with installs.
If you've not done it, I'd recommend doing a complete wipe using Caulkin Format All and Format Temp, fresh install of miui (reboot 3 times after you install it, helps get rid of some fo the chinese crap), flash a kernal of your choice (i've been rocking tiamit 4.0.5 sbc) and then configure your phone and set it all up.
I love the fact that you can have folders on your home screen (that show the icons of the content) however, it doesnt hide your status bar (I think it's stupid to have the clock show twice).
I use launcher pro and folder organizer ( available on market) and love it.
I have a very minimalistic layout with everything grouped neatly.
if you've not used MIUI, try it! Stiff is amazing!
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I hear that its very Iphone like and has a lot of things not working in the latest update, is that true been wanting to try it

Tiamat 4.0.4 is the best i have used on MIUI. Savage have never been smooth for me. Overclock to 1152 and it rocks.

ByrdDaMan said:
I hear that its very Iphone like and has a lot of things not working in the latest update, is that true been wanting to try it
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Everything seems to work just fine for me with the latest update. I haven't tried Navigation, but my GPS locks almost instantly, so I suppose it would work just fine. It seems like GPS is the biggest problem.
I still have the bug where the automatic brightness doesn't work correctly. I have just set the brightness somewhere and forgot about it. It seems to work correctly for others though. Guess it might have something to do with the kernel though.

LedGrip said:
How do you change your kernal and which is the best?
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Another easy way is to use Kernel Manager from the Market. He has all the most popular kernels listed there. It is a breeze.

try tiamat kernel 3.3.7 which seems to work the best for most people or try the latest one which is 4.0.5. I'm using the latest one with vipermod which is a tool to lower voltages and it's great.

Battery Jumping Issue on Gingerbread

This is a serious problem for me, and ive seen many others report it
it started with the HK 2.3.4, and i thought the ATandT build would fix it but it hasnt
The battery readings all over the place, it will say 40% left, but if i restart it itll go back to 59% and etc..
I have done a battery callibration, wiped battery stats, all that good stuff, it has not helped.
I flashed 1.8.3 SBF and then went to the ATandT gingerbread (gingerblur), so everying was wiped, but i still have this problem
Does anyone know how i can communicate this issue to that motorola forum guy Matt,
its very annoying and is making our batteries look very mediocre

Check out my battery life ...nice huh?
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lesonal said:
Check out my battery life ...nice huh?
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LOL did u really have the screen on for 5 hrs +

Yup watched a movie on Netflix and everything
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SS2006 said:
Does anyone know how i can communicate this issue to that motorola forum guy Matt,
its very annoying and is making our batteries look very mediocre
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Considering these builds are likely not at all final, it's probably something they either have fixed on another build, are working on fixing before the beta, or will fix during the beta.
Basically, I think we'll have to wait for the official release unless Kenn can patch a fix into his own rom.

this seems to be a problem after installing the 1% mod. every time i install it it happens no matter how many times i wipe... once i reflahed with beta 4.5 everything works perfect

I had the 1% mod , wish i never did
but flashed 1.8.3 and flashed to beta gingerblur again, i don thave the mod right now
but still seeing this

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How is this possible??

I am having the same issue but it doesn't seem to be a big deal as it shows quick drain when it jumps up or drains slow when it jumps down.
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Krshaw18 said:
How is this possible??
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Hows what possible? He has the 1% battery mod which makes his battery reading way off. I can be 60% battery , reboot and it will say I'm at 90%.

SS2006 said:
This is a serious problem for me, and ive seen many others report it
it started with the HK 2.3.4,
Does anyone know how i can communicate this issue to that motorola forum guy Matt,
its very annoying and is making our batteries look very mediocre
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Motorola isn't going to give 2 hoots about your problems since you flashed a leaked firmware, which wasn't for your specific model anyway!

ahjdmarchi said:
this seems to be a problem after installing the 1% mod. every time i install it it happens no matter how many times i wipe... once i reflahed with beta 4.5 everything works perfect
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I had a widget that displayed 1% increment battery levels and that showed the same deal as before. It's not a problem with the mod. All they do is read the system files reporting battery level anyway.
And really Caelan...can't you just ignore the topic if you're just going to post spam?

CaelanT said:
Motorola isn't going to give 2 hoots about your problems since you flashed a leaked firmware, which wasn't for your specific model anyway!
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If you read more carefully, you'll notice it actually is for our specific model
Gingerblur is based on the ATandT 4.5.91

to clear ur confusion, i did have hk and 1% mod in the past. But i then flashed 1.8.3 SBF (which is for at and t atrix)
So right there, all the past is history, im stock.
THEN went to 4.5.91, and still have problems, as do others

It's got to be a bug in the Moto ROM. I'm sure it will be fixed either by our devs or their's

My front facing camera will not work

Sorry to the OP if this is off topic, but didn't want to start a new thread.
Issue is, battery drains faster than it is getting charged while in use. playing game on it while charging and still sucks battery dry. any constructive thoughts is welcome

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Damn how did you get such high display time and still have 46% battery left? Any secrets?

Simple Honey Query

I'm thinking of flashing Simple Honey on Vibrant i haven't done any flash on my own currently I'm on Trigger 3.2 Final but i feel there is too much of battery drain i tried battery calibration even that didn't worked, i see the RAM usage of Simple honey is 340MB and i see the RAM in vibrant around 320MB i know the rest of memory is used by system but does it means Simple Honey is very heavy on battery ?
Also i feel that most of the manuals are not well done i was looking for Simple Honey and it never says clearly that i need to be on CM7 before flashing it or my understanding is not correct

None of the ported gb roms get as good battery life as the froyo roms built from our vibrant source code. If you want better battery life I would try a different kernel with your current rom. I would recommend Bali or DMZ kernels. And no you should not be on cm7 to flash Simply Honey. It is recommended to flash the gingerbread bootloaders first though.
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Thanks , so whats the best combo Simple Honey + which kernel ?

Well if you're going to go with Simply Honey it already comes with a kernel with tweaks especially for that rom. But if you want better battery, SH is not the way to go. You're better off sticking with Trigger or another froyo rom with one of the kernels I mentioned above, Bali or DMZ. In my signature are links to the rom and kernel I use, ZenDroid and DMZ kernel. I get phenomenal battery life using that combination.
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I'm on trigger 3.2 as well and it's now become pretty glitchy. Looking for a better ROM. I've love to try your combination. Pm me the links please. I rarely, if ever, use my computer for xda so any links are not showing up in your signature.
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I just updatd from sh 3.9 to 5.1. There are 2 kernels used bullet 1.2 1.42 and 1.54. The numbers represent oc speeds and 1.54 doesn't work on all phones. The other is talon sh kernel. It's optimized for sh GPS doesn't work (does in bullet). Also talon lets you change bootanimations bullet does not. Instructions are clear in the op. If you are coming from a previous sh ROM use the Odin to stock method. Personally I would flash talon after the step that puts sh 3.8 on your phone. There seem to be issues flashing 5.1 which comes with talon over bullet on your phone. 3.9 bullet, flashed talon,flashed 5.1 all went well. Also you might want to clear caches in cwm (dalvik and any others) before 5.1 flash. Sometimes there are "ghost" which makes the modem flash bad and you can't make or receive calls. All answers are in the thread. Hope this helps. By the way I love this ROM!

lazyb421 said:
Well if you're going to go with Simply Honey it already comes with a kernel with tweaks especially for that rom. But if you want better battery, SH is not the way to go. You're better off sticking with Trigger or another froyo rom with one of the kernels I mentioned above, Bali or DMZ. In my signature are links to the rom and kernel I use, ZenDroid and DMZ kernel. I get phenomenal battery life using that combination.
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I am going to have to respectively disagree with you. We are finally at a place with the latest version of simply honey that we can safely say we are on par if not better than froyo when it comes to battery. I just post a pic today showing over 31 hours with 10% left. Other users in my thread have posted 12 hours with 70% left which is on par to hit 30 hours. I rarely saw 30 hours on froyo. My personal use was admittedly light, a few calls and textx, xda app, Facebook app, a couple times in browser. Moderate shouldn't see less than 18 to 24 hours.
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+1
And this is with about 2.5 on Pandora, WIFI on 80% of the time,, bunch of xda, email, news,,
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I am going to have to respectively disagree with you. We are finally at a place with the latest version of simply honey that we can safely say we are on par if not better than froyo when it comes to battery. I just post a pic today showing over 31 hours with 10% left. Other users in my thread have posted 12 hours with 70% left which is on par to hit 30 hours. I rarely saw 30 hours on froyo. My personal use was admittedly light, a few calls and textx, xda app, Facebook app, a couple times in browser. Moderate shouldn't see less than 18 to 24 hours.
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explodingboy70 said:
I am going to have to respectively disagree with you. We are finally at a place with the latest version of simply honey that we can safely say we are on par if not better than froyo when it comes to battery. I just post a pic today showing over 31 hours with 10% left. Other users in my thread have posted 12 hours with 70% left which is on par to hit 30 hours. I rarely saw 30 hours on froyo. My personal use was admittedly light, a few calls and textx, xda app, Facebook app, a couple times in browser. Moderate shouldn't see less than 18 to 24 hours.
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Wow that's very impressive. I stand corrected. My apologies.
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explodingboy70 said:
I am going to have to respectively disagree with you. We are finally at a place with the latest version of simply honey that we can safely say we are on par if not better than froyo when it comes to battery. I just post a pic today showing over 31 hours with 10% left. Other users in my thread have posted 12 hours with 70% left which is on par to hit 30 hours. I rarely saw 30 hours on froyo. My personal use was admittedly light, a few calls and textx, xda app, Facebook app, a couple times in browser. Moderate shouldn't see less than 18 to 24 hours.
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Can you clarify how Simply Honey works on Vibrant since it require 340MB and phone memory is around 320Mb does it means it uses full memory ? The biggest problem which i'm facing is seems like my phone constantly searches for wifi signal even though i have disabled do not search for open wifi networks.