[Q] How do I short-circuit a HD2? - HD2 General

My HD2 with Clean Desire bricked through normal usage (calling, txt, 3G, etc...) a while ago. I looked far and wide throughout the internet in hopes of finding an answer. Apparently, my phone short-circuited, resulting in it turning into a sexy-looking brick. The solution was to re-short-circuit it and it will turn on like magic. Problem is, I don't know HOW to short-circuit ANYTHING. Could someone give me some advice?

tarik_9812 said:
My HD2 with Clean Desire bricked through normal usage (calling, txt, 3G, etc...) a while ago. I looked far and wide throughout the internet in hopes of finding an answer. Apparently, my phone short-circuited, resulting in it turning into a sexy-looking brick. The solution was to re-short-circuit it and it will turn on like magic. Problem is, I don't know HOW to short-circuit ANYTHING. Could someone give me some advice?
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I don't know where or who told you that you had to short circuit your HD2 to unbrick it bit that will not unbrick a HD2. I do know what you are talking about as I just had to look it up today as someone asked me a question about a Samsung Vibrant. With some Samsung devices you can use what is call a test JIG and plug it into the USB of the device and force it to boot into recovery/download mode and then you can flash a ROM back to it via ODIN. This is a fairly new technology for mobile devices.
But HTC phone can not do this you still have to do it the old fashion way and use a JTAG, Riffbox, and a adaptor to unbrick the device. This requires taking the main board completely out of the device to hook the JTAG to it. You then connect the JTAG to the Riffbox and the Riffbox to your computer then you resorrectcthe SPL and put the device back together.
Sorry but this is the only way to bring a bricked HD2 back from the beyond

tarik_9812 said:
The solution was to re-short-circuit it and it will turn on like magic.
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lolololololololol....

You'll never believe this...
I tried doing everything (except short-circuiting) and almost gave up. My parents came over my house yesterday and my dad had a look at it. He then literally bent the phone (not to the point where it damaged or reshaped anything) and...
...IT TURNED ON!!!
Once again, I wouldn't blame you guys for not believing me, but it worked. So if your HD2 is damaged to the point where there's nothing else you can do, just try bending it
(Actually, don't try this. I'm not held liable if your paperweight snaps in half.)

tarik_9812 said:
You'll never believe this...
I tried doing everything (except short-circuiting) and almost gave up. My parents came over my house yesterday and my dad had a look at it. He then literally bent the phone (not to the point where it damaged or reshaped anything) and...
...IT TURNED ON!!!
Once again, I wouldn't blame you guys for not believing me, but it worked. So if your HD2 is damaged to the point where there's nothing else you can do, just try bending it
(Actually, don't try this. I'm not held liable if your paperweight snaps in half.)
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I am... what.
That's genuinely impressive.

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HD2 not booting...

Guys, I need a bit of advice please.
After an accidentally botched radio install (phone fell and disconnected from USB whilst flashing), my HD2 won't boot. It gets stuck on the multi-coloured 'initial screen' (for want of a better expression) with 'SPL-1.42.HPSL XE CotullaHSPL' on it.
I'm looking to do one of two things, either rescue it, or, PREFERABLY kill it completely so that the device does not even boot to that screen. I know that sounds like a strange preference, but that would be ideal for me. Have you got any suggestions at all guys?
If you want to send it back and get a new one, then you definetly have to remove HSPL. Get HSPL2 and try to flash 1.42.0000. If it works, your problem is solved! Simply take it to customer service, complain about it not booting all of a sudden and you`ll either get a new one or get yours fixed.
However... if you fail removing HSPL and have no other option available, try and microwave it, literally. Put it in a microwave oven until it refuses to boot, then take it back to customer service complaining about how it suddely stopped working.
Best of luck!
Quite LITERALLY put it in the microwave and turn the microwave on?? For how long? Won't it just 'melt' the innerds, or blow up?
Yep. I did this to mine in 10 second intervals. The first time nothing happened, it just got hot. The second time, the vibrations stopped working. The third time nothing. The fourth time the screen started to fail (but STILL booted into the bootloader). The fifth time it only booted with a white screen and I stopped, as I had acheived what I wanted and the screen was already pretty damaged.
Thanks, a very, er, interesting suggestion. However I want the phone to look the same, i.e undamaged! But be bricked. If it's not possible, then I'll have to try and rescue the poor thing .
Best decision you could take. Hope you succeed!
spireite_uk said:
Guys, I need a bit of advice please.
After an accidentally botched radio install (phone fell and disconnected from USB whilst flashing), my HD2 won't boot. It gets stuck on the multi-coloured 'initial screen' (for want of a better expression) with 'SPL-1.42.HPSL XE CotullaHSPL' on it.
I'm looking to do one of two things, either rescue it, or, PREFERABLY kill it completely so that the device does not even boot to that screen. I know that sounds like a strange preference, but that would be ideal for me. Have you got any suggestions at all guys?
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Does it show USB on the bootloader(multi-color) screen?
If it does you can flash a new radio/rom and maybe fix it ...
Or Flash from SDcard
I've managed to flash it to stock 1.43 from SD card, which appears to have also removed the HSPL. This is a win. However, I would still like to brick the phone so I can get a brand new replacement... I really could use a sure fire (but safe, and does not cause hw damage) brick method.
hspl, task29, remove hspl. you`ll get a white htc logo screen without the ability to enter bootloader.
However, I would still like to brick the phone so I can get a brand new replacement... I really could use a sure fire (but safe, and does not cause hw damage) brick method.
A friend (and yes - it was actually an friend and not me!) allegedly did this:
He took the socket from the end of an extension lead, put the plug into the mains socket and then VERY CARFULLY and very briefly touched the bare Live and Neutral wires onto the battery terminals in the phone.
240V into the circuit board apparently did the trick
**** Disclaimer ****
I think he was very silly to do this cos he could've hurt himself so please don't follow his example!
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Hmm, yes, a method that doesn't involve microwaves or 240 volts would be preferable .
spireite_uk said:
I've managed to flash it to stock 1.43 from SD card, which appears to have also removed the HSPL. This is a win. However, I would still like to brick the phone so I can get a brand new replacement... I really could use a sure fire (but safe, and does not cause hw damage) brick method.
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This kind of talks (insurance fraud) is illegal.
Thread closed.

Symptoms of Bricked HD2?

Hi, what are the symptoms of software bricked HD2?
I have HTC HD2 but not sure whats wrong with it, no power what so ever, no leds etc however the battery does charge. (Strange I know)
I got the phone like this so not sure how it happened
Thanks
Maybe the display have a problem not lighting up or something!
To tell you the truth; HTC HD2 is a bit difficult to software brick it imo! Take it back from where you bought it and change it!
The screen is fine, it doesnt connect to the pc or anything.
It might have been bricked by flashing TMOUS radio, just wanna know what the symptons are if that happens. If there the same symptoms as mine Ill send it off to get JTAG'd
I bought it faulty.
dpgc213 said:
Hi, what are the symptoms of software bricked HD2?
I have HTC HD2 but not sure whats wrong with it, no power what so ever, no leds etc however the battery does charge. (Strange I know)
I got the phone like this so not sure how it happened
Thanks
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That sounds like a bricked HD2() like in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068989.
Thanks for the link, could be a software or hardware fault. I'll try and get a phone shop to look it.
When you say "the screen is fine".... how do you know if its not displaying anything. Could be an LCD fault, how do you know the battery is charging...??
Im a bit confused by this one.
Apologies if I've missed something obvious, somewhat drunk.
As your on O2 im gonna assume your in the UK and its an EU HD2 (T8585).
If so, it cannot be bricked by flashing a tmous radio.......
I know its charging because the battery warms up and I checked in my other HD2 lol.
Its not an LCD fault as it doesnt even connect to the PC etc. Its just dead apart from that it charges the battery.
You wanted the symtoms of a hardware or hard bricked HD2. Well they are as follows.
1. The HD2 will vibrate and the hardware buttons will light up but it will not display anything but a black screen, not the first splash screen.
2. You can not boot into bootloader by holding the volume down button down while powering on the HD2.
3. On some hard bricked HD2s they will still apear to charge but it is not really charging the battery properly because the charging software is not working properly, thos is why your battery gets hot.
4. The HD2 is not recognized by the computer at all or only as Qualcomm something.
These are the symtoms I know for a hard bricked HD2.
Yours sounds like a case of a hard bricked HD2. In case the shop that you carry your HD2 to does not offer a JTAH service for the HD2 I can put you in contact with someone that can JTAG your HD2.
Thanks for that, How much does the person you know charge? I can get it Jtag'd for around £40
Sorry it tooke a little while to get back to you but the person I know charges $50 USD plus you pay whatever shipping and handling it is to ship the HD2 to him. But he lives in the US so you might be better of if you can get it done localy. But the guy I know is very good.
Ok thanks for that, Ill let you know if I cant get it done locally.

Phone stuck on USB/charging... very weird

Hey there. I have my Galaxy S II (GT-I9100) for about a month, and since a couple of days ago it has been behaving very weirdly about USB and charging.
First of all, the phone thinks it has USB connected at all times. When I go to the settings menu try to enable mass storage it says USB is already connected, even though it isn't!!!
Sometimes when I start the phone it goes to that USB Kies screen and says "connected", when absolutaly no cables are connected AT ALL!!!
When I turn the cell off, remove the battery and plug it back in, without turning the phone on, the recharging battery icon appears, but blinks with a drained battery icon with a yellow exclamation sign and a thermometer which I sincerely have no idea what that means.
It also takes ages to recognize the power charger or when I really connect the USB cable. And finally, when I take them off, it also takes a while to "perceive" they're off and remove the charging lightning from the battery icons.
PRETTY PLEASE, SOMEONE HELP ME OUT, as I don't have time to take the phone to service, and didn't really want to do that
Thanks!!!
This has also happened to me and loads of other SGS2 users! Although usually it only happens sporadically and not constantly. It seems that it's a bad soldering job or dust/dirt has gathered in the microUSB port. You might be able to fix it, if you're *really* careful.
Quote from another thread;
JaX3RiR said:
Last night my phone wouldn't even start charging, so I decided to take matters into my own hands. With the smallest screwdriver I could find, I carefully 'lifted' the tiny PCB in the USB jack while blowing in at the same time. Sure enough, some sand particles fell out, and I haven't gotten carmode'd in nearly 13 hours now. Previously it would do it once every 15 minutes. So far so good, it seems.
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Thanks for the help... but what is PCB? Is it the connector inside the "hole"?
Tried that and it stopped thinking USB was connected the whole time... on the other hand, it doesn't detect when I connect the USB cable
Lets try keeping 1 thread
Therere are other threads about it.
Read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132588&page=2
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Therere are other threads about it.
Read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132588&page=2
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You can't talk on plural when you only point out one thread. And I've read that, but it isn't the same as my phone doesn't go in "car mode".
My phone's problem only resembled a problem JaX3RiR briefly mentioned in the middle of the thread.
I tried googling it before posting anything anywhere, but couldn't find anything useful.
Please don't try to look like a smartass like that and embarrass yourself. If you got nothing to add to the thread, it's best if you sit out of it. It's much more appreciated when helpful people like JaX3RiR post...
Hi,had the same problem,tried reflashing back to original firmware,but still had the same problem,,the only way i could boot the phone was through recovery mode,(reboot)Had to send phone back for possible repair??cut a long story short they sent me a new phone,,They said they couldnt repair the fault,something to do with the usb charging system,,So i would advise anyone with this specific problem,to send phone back,and get a replacement..hope you get it solved
Thanks mate, I sent mine today as well... I hope they act the same with me, as I'm afraid customer service around here always tries to incriminate the user not to use the warranty...
ghnogueira said:
You can't talk on plural when you only point out one thread. And I've read that, but it isn't the same as my phone doesn't go in "car mode".
My phone's problem only resembled a problem JaX3RiR briefly mentioned in the middle of the thread.
I tried googling it before posting anything anywhere, but couldn't find anything useful.
Please don't try to look like a smartass like that and embarrass yourself. If you got nothing to add to the thread, it's best if you sit out of it. It's much more appreciated when helpful people like JaX3RiR post...
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There is no reason to be angry, I'm just trying to help, and just wanted that we all post in one thread, so it would be easier to track later.
I just posted longest thread. Here is another one if it helps to justify:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151863
I'm pretty sure you have the same problem. Sometimes Vlingo starts, sometimes phone thinks its charging, when trying to boot it shows battery image and won't boot, can boot only recovery and do restart from there.
Get of the high horse when people are trying to help you.
Are you sure you didn't connect USB cable upside down or bended USB port with the cable?
I have no idea what Vlingo is, and obviously I didn't connect the USB cable upside down. I don't think I bended the port with the cable since it still recognizes the cable for charging or booting and going directly into Kies mode, for example.
I am not on any high horse when people try to help me, as you could see my response towards the guys above. Your post wasn't sounding helpful at all, you were just sounding like "hey, you dumass noobie, don't open a new thread for yourself, check the forums first".
By the way, I also took a look at that thread you posted before posting mine, but I have no idea what is "car mode" on my phone...
Sorry if I sounded rough. I thought it is similar issue, so I posted link to longer thread. I had this issue myself.
Peace. Let us know what the service say .
This happened to me one week ago while on holiday....that temp indicator while charging plus the other stuff you mention....
Plus the phone went into flight mode and won't come out....
Got home and did a reset and phone now doesn't recognise sim card...
great phone but I'm a little disappointed
stevee1953 said:
Hi,had the same problem,tried reflashing back to original firmware,but still had the same problem,,the only way i could boot the phone was through recovery mode,(reboot)Had to send phone back for possible repair??cut a long story short they sent me a new phone,,They said they couldnt repair the fault,something to do with the usb charging system,,So i would advise anyone with this specific problem,to send phone back,and get a replacement..hope you get it solved
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Hello,
Had the same problems aswell, only mine had a bunch of other problems aswell:
When I shut down my mobile it restarts itself and then shows a yellow exclamation mark with an tempgage. Only way to turn on my phone is to connect it with the charger, turn of my phone again, remove the charger and then the phone turned itself on again but without the temp gage.
My phone also thinks its charging when it is not, and when I am actually charging it, its not charging.
Also my PC does not recognize my phone so I am not able to update it.
I have also sent my phone for a repair, I will keep you guys posted.
greets from the netherlands
Yep, mine only got fixed by going into service. It got its mainboard warranty switched.
T- Mobile sent me a replacement phone
They seemed to know the symptoms when I explained what was happening
Same fault for me. Mainboard replaced, works fine now.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
How did you guys get it fixed? Did you have to ship the phone out somewhere? How long did you have to wait to get it back? What was the process?
Thanks.
Mine is going to be repaired in two weeks.
I was the 8th SGS2 since tuesday which came in the repair center.
The repair guy said it is a manifacturing fault.
The phone gets hots, and outside temperature is cold, so it makes moisture in the phone.
This cause the phones power management to get fu up (SGS2 has a small battery inside of it, and that gets fu up). Only fix is replace hardware, but 9 of 10 times Samsung gives the fault to the customer. They say it has water damage and can't be fixed in warrenty...
I'm going to write a huge article about it, and I hope it will get published by a lot of site's soon. Phones he admitted having the problem: SGS1, SGS2 and SGSN.
I charged my GS2 2x by USB and it's discharged faster than by the sector
The USB power isn't enough for charge up the GS2 correctly
Are you guys suffering from rapid battery discharging, i have all of the above symptons but my battery drains within hours...I`ve even bought a brand new battery off ebay that is exacly the same issues... I`d like to send it back to O2 but i`ve rooted and flashed custom firmware...

[Q] Cant find any WiFi AP's

Hi all, I normally don't like to post questions because i feel like the answer is somewhere online, and i almost always find it. Apparently this is one of those times i can't. Bear with me as i wanna make sure i dont leave anything out.
My problem is simply that my HD2 will not find any access points when i turn on my wifi. This started happening to me with a previous HD2 i had about a month ago for no aparent reason. I had not changed or flashed anything on my phone around the time the problem happened. I figured i would ignore the problem because i had 3g anyways but then that HD2s touch screen failed so thats why i ended up sending it in for a warranty replacement.
Now i hoped that since i had a new HD2 that the problem would be gone, i mean how could it be possible that the problem would appear on a brand new phone. So i went about doing my usual. Installed 2.08.HSPL, followed by MAGLDR, followed by MIUIAndroid.com rom, same setup i had before the problem began. I made sure the first thing i did was turn on WiFi on first boot of the phone. To my suprise, No access points found. I know it is not my router as i have connected every other device im my house to my router, including other androids and windows phones. I thought maybe its a MAGLDR/Android issue. Flashed back to WinMobile 6.5 and still no acess points. Tried every radio available and still no access points.
Bottom line is im really confused how this can be with a brand new phone. Im pretty sure its a software issue but im out of ideas.
SO please if anyone can help. Please :'-(.
Just found out this morning that it can find my access point, but only if i literally lay it on top of my router. if i go more than maybe a foot away from it then nothing.
It sounds like a hardware issue. I read about these things having issues with a connection to the antennae that can be solved by taking apart the phone and cleaning some leads.
joshnchen said:
It sounds like a hardware issue. I read about these things having issues with a connection to the antennae that can be solved by taking apart the phone and cleaning some leads.
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Sounds strange that such a new phone would have a hardware issue already. at this point though, im willing to try anything. how/where exactly would i clean/find these leads?
Check this: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834199 and this: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1190180, but be aware that opening your phone might void your waranty. Good luck
is that the only rom you have flashed? and was it nand, or sd etc...??
make sure because it could be a simple error in software as well..
something you can try and report back before opening up the phone
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Check this: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834199 and this: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1190180, but be aware that opening your phone might void your waranty. Good luck
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thanks. will take a look at those.
tecle2595 said:
is that the only rom you have flashed? and was it nand, or sd etc...??
make sure because it could be a simple error in software as well..
something you can try and report back before opening up the phone
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I first got the problem while it was still stock. then i flashed miuiandroid.com's rom with MAGLDR and still. then i went to tytungs ICS Beta4 roms and still. now im back to the miuiandroid rom. so it doesnt seem to be a rom issue.
also all the roms were nand
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Just found out this morning that it can find my access point, but only if i literally lay it on top of my router. if i go more than maybe a foot away from it then nothing.
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Hi my Friend,
your black Wifi Coaxial-Cable inside your HD2 is unpluged and not correct Connected. I had this three times at three different EU-HD2 Devices, too ( the Distance for a working WIFI Signal was 1 Feet. Normal, without Antenna ;-)). Regular the Connector at the PCM at the upper Corner fall of...
If you Still have Warrenty you have to bring this Phone to a Service. If not, you have to fix this little Problem by yourself ( you need 2 Minutes to do that ). Be Carefully when you Bring the whole HD2 inside your Backcover. You have to Tape the Vol-Rocker with a little Sticky-Tape. So this Plastic can´t fall off during the reassembling and is not to Deep to kill the Vol. Buttons...
The Opening is easy. You need only a Guitar-Plectron and t Torx-Screwdriver. Here you find Pictures:
http://mperlitsch.hintergrundbild.com/htc_hd2.htm
Here a Picture from you Sick-Zone:
http://mperlitsch.hintergrundbild.com/htc_hd2/hd2_23.jpg
Where the RED ARROW is, you see One Wifi-Connector and i bet a Sex-Pack good German Beer, this one is your Problem. Put this Connector Back and everything works fine...
Best Regards,
Micha
P.S. Sorry for my poor english !
Perlitschke said:
Hi my Friend,
your black Wifi Coaxial-Cable inside your HD2 is unpluged and not correct Connected. I had this three times at three different EU-HD2 Devices, too ( the Distance for a working WIFI Signal was 1 Feet. Normal, without Antenna ;-)). Regular the Connector at the PCM at the upper Corner fall of...
If you Still have Warrenty you have to bring this Phone to a Service. If not, you have to fix this little Problem by yourself ( you need 2 Minutes to do that ). Be Carefully when you Bring the whole HD2 inside your Backcover. You have to Tape the Vol-Rocker with a little Sticky-Tape. So this Plastic can´t fall off during the reassembling and is not to Deep to kill the Vol. Buttons...
The Opening is easy. You need only a Guitar-Plectron and t Torx-Screwdriver. Here you find Pictures:
http://mperlitsch.hintergrundbild.com/htc_hd2.htm
Here a Picture from you Sick-Zone:
http://mperlitsch.hintergrundbild.com/htc_hd2/hd2_23.jpg
Where the RED ARROW is, you see One Wifi-Connector and i bet a Sex-Pack good German Beer, this one is your Problem. Put this Connector Back and everything works fine...
Best Regards,
Micha
P.S. Sorry for my poor english !
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Thanks so much to you and everyone who helped me out. Im going to see how much longer my warranty is because the only reason i would really send it back is if the touch screen fails AGAIN (happened twice already) but that wont happen for at least a year. So if warranty is gonna expire before then ill fix myself. again thank you to everyone.

[Q] [Help]HS2 Wont start after new LCD

Hello all.
I have a HD2 that I havent done anything with, exept getting and installing some small programs.
No new ROM, no attempt to install W7, its more or like a Virgin.
However I made a fool of me, and managed to damage the LCD and finally got it changed. Got the Phone back from the company (MBlue Ltd in UK), and tried to start it up. But No....
Pressing ON, the phone vibrates, gives some light in the screen, sort of like you see its ON its a "white glow", but you dont get any more. The Jingle comes on, theres light in my buttons at the low end of phone, and NOTHING more.
I have had it on for long time, but nothing....
When I finally sendt the phone away, the battery was discharged, but as I have a new battery I put that in, and it charges and all.
Ive studied this thread: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=638210
But as I CAN charge I fell that Im somewhat related but not fully in the same situation as the Original Poster there.
# Could it be that my phone somewhat has gotten overheated or anything else?
# Is the only and best solution to send it to HTC and let them look on it?
Ive tried to HARD and SOFT reset, but still nothing.
[EDIT] Connecting the phone to my PC, It is recognised and its recognised as a HD2 T8585
Looking more and reading more on the Forum I suspect theres a problem in the connection between the "fx-card" and the screen. (stupid way of saying it though)
Glad for any input here. Thanks in advance.
Tom
Flattop said:
Hello all.
I have a HD2 that I havent done anything with, exept getting and installing some small programs.
No new ROM, no attempt to install W7, its more or like a Virgin.
However I made a fool of me, and managed to damage the LCD and finally got it changed. Got the Phone back from the company (MBlue Ltd in UK), and tried to start it up. But No....
Pressing ON, the phone vibrates, gives some light in the screen, sort of like you see its ON its a "white glow", but you dont get any more. The Jingle comes on, theres light in my buttons at the low end of phone, and NOTHING more.
I have had it on for long time, but nothing....
When I finally sendt the phone away, the battery was discharged, but as I have a new battery I put that in, and it charges and all.
Ive studied this thread: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=638210
But as I CAN charge I fell that Im somewhat related but not fully in the same situation as the Original Poster there.
# Could it be that my phone somewhat has gotten overheated or anything else?
# Is the only and best solution to send it to HTC and let them look on it?
Ive tried to HARD and SOFT reset, but still nothing.
[EDIT] Connecting the phone to my PC, It is recognised and its recognised as a HD2 T8585
Looking more and reading more on the Forum I suspect theres a problem in the connection between the "fx-card" and the screen. (stupid way of saying it though)
Glad for any input here. Thanks in advance.
Tom
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Does your computer synchronize with your phone(connecting to activesync/mobile device center)? Then it is booted in Windows Mobile, the possibility is that the screen is broken then.
I thought the Screen might not be properly connected, or broken yes.
I better get in contact with the repair company.
But if other too have opininons, please bring em on... ;-)
Returned to repairplace, they fixed it.
My best guess is thy didnt check their own repair so they had to connect/fix something.
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Returned to repairplace, they fixed it.
My best guess is thy didnt check their own repair so they had to connect/fix something.
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Good point, they're responsible for their repair: it is better this way because it's possible they damaged something while repairing and that part, if needs replacement, it should be their obligation, not yours!

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