Wifi Xoom + GSM\UMTS MiniPCI board = GSM\UMTS Xoom - Xoom General

In the ifixit teardown of the 3G xoom... there is (in step 8) a blank mini-pci board, presumably for the LTE upgrade.
If this is also present in the Wifi Xoom, and this card were placed in it's place, and the appropriate coding was done, would it perhaps ... function?
Just some thoughts...

Damn, serious? I'm kinda curious too now!

kmalinich said:
In the ifixit teardown of the 3G xoom... there is (in step 8) a blank mini-pci board, presumably for the LTE upgrade.
If this is also present in the Wifi Xoom, and this card were placed in it's place, and the appropriate coding was done, would it perhaps ... function?
Just some thoughts...
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I say buy it and give it a try in all honestly it would be pretty cool if you could use it

Where would a sim card go on the wi-fi Xoom if you did this?

If you can get Linux source drivers, it might be doable, but you'd have to figure out a way to get the drivers to link up with the Android data layer (not sure if that's easy or hard)...

Scourge1024 said:
Where would a sim card go on the wi-fi Xoom if you did this?
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Wifi only Xoom has a sim card slot.
But I'm not sure if it has a pci slot.

poisike said:
Wifi only Xoom has a sim card slot.
But I'm not sure if it has a pci slot.
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It does? Damn, I should look more carefully I wonder if you can do anything with it... Like retrieve contacts stored on a SIM.

There was a similar thread already here somewhere. It would be great if we could achieve this, but it'll surely require a lot of coding

I think the minipci card has its own sim slot. i don't think it would interact with the xoom's own sim slot (although it looks like there is the contacts for a sim on the wifi xoom)

kmalinich said:
I think the minipci card has its own sim slot. i don't think it would interact with the xoom's own sim slot (although it looks like there is the contacts for a sim on the wifi xoom)
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NO the mini pci card communicate with the onboard sim slot through the bus just like in some laptops/netbooks/umpc like in the samsung q1u, I have 2 of these units the cam with onboard sim slots but no radio I bought 2 radios from ebay install them in the minipci slot and the onboard sim slot works.... I'm thinking of removing one and try it in my xoom wifi... they work native in many flavors of linu, in android x86 2.2 is scans mobile network but take forever.... so i still dunno....

antiguangenius said:
NO the mini pci card communicate with the onboard sim slot through the bus just like in some laptops/netbooks/umpc like in the samsung q1u, I have 2 of these units the cam with onboard sim slots but no radio I bought 2 radios from ebay install them in the minipci slot and the onboard sim slot works.... I'm thinking of removing one and try it in my xoom wifi... they work native in many flavors of linu, in android x86 2.2 is scans mobile network but take forever.... so i still dunno....
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DAMN!!!! connector is missing
Back to the drawing board....
well i guess I'm stuck tethering with my iphone 4 via bluetooth

Step 13
It says that xoom has FM tunner....
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Thomas1981 said:
Step 13
It says that xoom has FM tunner....
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lol i believe the WiFi Version is like a bentley cousin.... where the 3g version is the Bently Daddy...... lol lol lol lol

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It says that xoom has FM tuner
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The Broadcom BCM4329 chip that all Xoom models use is WiFi/BT/FM (both receive and transmit).
But that's a moot point if they haven't connected the appropriate I/O pins to those of the CPU.

Is there an app to run on xoom and see what devices are recognised by the operating system and which are recognised but missing the drivers? Kinda like the device manager on windows?
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USB port adapter only for 8.9"?

What is the meaning behind this? It sounds like the larger 10.1 tablet is going to miss out on a full size USB port. Maybe the 10.1 has a full size on the tablet itself, and not as an attachment? Can anyone confirm the reasoning for leaving the attachment off the larger version?
This puzzled me too. The USB/SD kit says it's only for the 8.9. But what is the point of even having the SD adapter if the tablet has a micro SD slot?
Only thing that comes to mind so far is that was an old slide and the kit was not compatible with the old Galaxy 10.1? *shrug*
I was thinking this kit provides "USB Host" functionality.
Looking into the presentation below, I could imagine user can attach SD card ... and the tab will be able to read it (USB Host functionality)
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I was thinking this kit provides "USB Host" functionality.
Looking into the presentation below, I could imagine user can attach SD card ... and the tab will be able to read it (USB Host functionality)
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Yeah, but in the presentation it states it's only for the 8.9". Does the 10.1" get some love too?
double post, please delete.
mitch27 said:
Yeah, but in the presentation it states it's only for the 8.9". Does the 10.1" get some love too?
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I wonder if the 10.1" has a full size SD slot anyway, and it had to be left out of the 8.9 due to space constraints?
StuMcBill said:
I wonder if the 10.1" has a full size SD slot anyway, and it had to be left out of the 8.9 due to space constraints?
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That's what I think too. It would be a pretty stupid move to allow it only on the 8.9".
Anyways, Samsung has been pretty horrible with releasing accessories at a reasonable time frame. So yeah....
PC World has a article on the new Tabs and on slide 4 they claim both models have a microSD slot. The pictures shows a microSD slot on top.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/222837/article.html
just curious , anyone have any idea that this adaptor will be coming to the 10.1v (old fat one) ... this problem and the dual antenna , are the only barrier for me to decide buying 10.1v or not , personally i think if the bottom socket is the same (i think u call it 30 pin) , then it would properly fit on the old one , but will the software support it ??
Can the new 8.9 Tab charge by way of micro usb? Thanks
mitch27 said:
What is the meaning behind this? It sounds like the larger 10.1 tablet is going to miss out on a full size USB port. Maybe the 10.1 has a full size on the tablet itself, and not as an attachment? Can anyone confirm the reasoning for leaving the attachment off the larger version?
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If you listen he says "the Galaxy Tab will INCLUDE a USB kit for connection to cameras, SD cards..." I take that as meaning that it will only be included with the 8.9" not that it will only work with the 8.9".
I hope it's not. I'm not a big fan of 'propriatory' ports.
droiding128 said:
If you listen he says "the Galaxy Tab will INCLUDE a USB kit for connection to cameras, SD cards..." I take that as meaning that it will only be included with the 8.9" not that it will only work with the 8.9".
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agreed. i think thats sammy's strategy to make sure people still buy 8.9 version when mostly preferred the bigger screen. its like "you dont have this, but you have that" kinda thing.
albert emmer said:
agreed. i think thats sammy's strategy to make sure people still buy 8.9 version when mostly preferred the bigger screen. its like "you dont have this, but you have that" kinda thing.
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But that would be pretty much unfair since gt 10.1 users have to pay more but get less
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sorry for bringing this thread up, but..
samsung.mobilefulfilment. com. au/Products/ViewProduct.aspx?ProductVariantId=9B06D3B5B8BC4F919A51
Attach a USB Flash Drive (not compatible with all models), share data with others on your phone or read SD cards with the card reader.
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what does that mean >.>?
it wont be compatible with 10.1v or 10.1 ?
"sorry cant post links"
Let me post that for you:
http://samsung.mobilefulfilment.com...ct.aspx?ProductVariantId=9B06D3B5B8BC4F919A51
If you look at this site you notice two things:
There are two differently sized adaptors shown.
It clearly says that it is for the 10.1
Model number for this part: EPL-1PLRBEGSTD

Xoom Experiment

This was an idea I had not sure if its possible but here goes.
We all know the xoom comes in 2 versions wifi and wifi/3g with a 4G upgrade. So far I can only assume this kind of modification is possible to do the 3/4G model.
As an alternative to upgrading to the 4G network or if your xoom has a bad esn it might be possible to remove the dummy half-height mini pci-e card and replace it with a mini pci express ssd hard drive. Both cards use the same 26-Pin connector so in theory it should work. Although there is no telling how or if it will even recognize the ssd.
I Purchased a used wifi/3g xoom from amazon and a 80gb intel ssd from newegg..........let the testing begin
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Definately fill me in on this
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Interesting. Would of made more sense to post after you tested.
I'll bet it would, but you might need a kernel with the PCI bits turned on or modified.
I remember when I bought a PCI express card for a netbook to do hardware decoding (for smoother videos).
PCI express slots can be wired in different ways, specifically in my case as PCI-E or USB.
This slot could be wired as either considering it's to host 3G/4G whatever.
So this might be a restriction on what cards can be used.
Also when I mistakenly installed the 3G images on my WIFI only. It would try connect by 3G card first (even though non existent) and then try to use the WIFI. So given the card and the right drivers there's no reason why a 3G ATT/TM card couldn't be shoved in there either.
Not sure I'd be bother with more on-board disk space TBH.
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I'll bet it would, but you might need a kernel with the PCI bits turned on or modified.
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Your probably right.
Alpina? Hast du? /small thread-jack.
eaglecomm said:
Alpina? Hast du? /small thread-jack.
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Ich habe
Sold a while ago
What'd ya have? E38? E34? newer?
eaglecomm said:
What'd ya have? E38? E34? newer?
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E34 it was a 91 my dad helped me buy it after I graduated, not too long after that I sold it got a m-tech e30 and my cousin helped me with the s52 swap
nice.. I've got a 94 E34 540 6spd and love it.. hope you get back in to one someday.
ok really, /threadjack. back on topic....
So have you tried it yet? I have an 8gb miniPCI card just sitting around here that would be cool to try out if you find it works for you. Just like the others (and especially because of the work required to get the extra SD card running) I would imagine some kernel work would be required at the very least. As well as driver work. But who knows.. it's the ideas that count.
Small Update
I've got a bit of bad news for the wifi only owners
After taking apart my WiFi only xoom and comparing it to the 3G it's pretty obvious Motorola removed all necessary hardware on the WiFi model making in near impossible to try this. Although you could always buy a 26-pin pci-e connector and soldier it in to your xoom if your feeling brave.
Also my ssd will be here tomorrow 4/19 so we will see
So its the big day (19th) any good news yet? Really interested in this! Hope you pull it out! Think this will involve some kernel work as well? Maybe BigRushDog can help?
kenhunt said:
any good news yet?
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Depends- didja see the post where the Mini-PCI slot was missing? IOW, are ya any good with a soldering iron?
kcrudup said:
Depends- didja see the post where the Mini-PCI slot was missing? IOW, are ya any good with a soldering iron?
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But isn't he doing it to his 3g xoom? Not the wifi.
I wouldn't mind hearing about an update on this.
Same, how's the work going?
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Very interesting topic!
I guess no news isn't always good news??? I hope there is some progress on this, would be nice to use when i don't want 3g/4g on my xoom anymore...
4/20 Update
For those waiting for an update yesterday I apologize, work was crazy and I didn't really have any free time.
As of today all I can say is stay tuned..... I've contacted a few forum members on the topic for some more insight on the next step and once I know more so will you.

Expansys has a 30 pin to sd card adaptor

http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung...-10-1-30-pin-to-usb-30-pin-to-sd-slot-219891/
I haven't seen this any place else. Hope it helps someone....
EDIT- probably the wrong section-- sorry.
That looks great, thanks for the heads up.
Sure. I haven't seen them anyplace else.... just got email confirmation its Samsung oem
does anyone know where I can find only the SD adapter, I already have the usb adapter, look like the link above only sells a combo pack. I know I can probably buy a normal USB SD adapter, and connect that using the USB adapter, but i would rahter have a seprate USB SD adapter, not some really long thing sticking out of the tab
jaoropez said:
not some really long thing sticking out of the tab
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The SD and USB adapters are the same size. It's two separate units that use the same cap to protect their 30 pin plugs for storage.
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jaoropez said:
does anyone know where I can find only the SD adapter, I already have the usb adapter, look like the link above only sells a combo pack. I know I can probably buy a normal USB SD adapter, and connect that using the USB adapter, but i would rahter have a seprate USB SD adapter, not some really long thing sticking out of the tab
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Try looking at Euro stores.... that's where Expansys told me they were getting theirs.
Jay Evans said:
The SD and USB adapters are the same size. It's two separate units that use the same cap to protect their 30 pin plugs for storage.
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Actually, they aren't both the same size. They both stick out from the tablet the same distance (length) but the SD card reader is wider than the USB reader.
The SD card reader is for a full size SD card.....
pdxrealtor said:
Actually, they aren't both the same size. They both stick out from the tablet the same distance (length) but the SD card reader is wider than the USB reader.
The SD card reader is for a full size SD card.....
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This is correct. The SD reader is slightly larger.
pdxrealtor said:
but the SD card reader is wider than the USB reader.
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I stand corrected...
@pdxrealtor:
Excellent find, just ordered one for myself, though I think that the 10.1 will soon be replaced with the Transformer, dunno why is the Transformer is selling like hot cakes when compared to the 10.1, there must be a REASON!
Glad it helped.
I'm frustrated not with the 10.1 specifically but the tabs in general.
I tried to take an excel spread sheet in the field today- none of the office programs support check boxes.
Tried to take some pictures and then insert them into a pre formatted word document- no dice--
Think I might need a net book
Willy318is said:
@pdxrealtor:
Excellent find, just ordered one for myself, though I think that the 10.1 will soon be replaced with the Transformer, dunno why is the Transformer is selling like hot cakes when compared to the 10.1, there must be a REASON!
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Duh price, people dont care about anything but how much sonething costs
For what it's worth. I was at best buy on sunday and they had at least 6 of the USB adapters..
can the tab benefit from a class 10 SD card or is that overkill?
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I stand corrected...
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Dude, your manicure is crazy good.
Thanks, but not my hand....

[Q] Dual SIM adapter for Defy - Where and Which to buy?

Hi,
Im seaching for a Dual sim adapter for Defy, regarding im from brazil so the best is from ebay or dealextreme.
Do somebody know where and which dual sim adapter to buy?
post the links if you can.
Thx
MAGICSIM 28th gen PLUS is what I'd go for. Seems to be the only reliable option
hi there, do you know if this works reliably with cyanogen 7 ?
Yea I'm sure it does
Oh btw i've just ordered the new 28th gen+ from these guys www.magic-sim.com so far its been an excellent service and everything seems great.
seems promosing and good but very pricy
I didn't think is was pricey at all when compared to the other options.
RHOUSMAN said:
Oh btw i've just ordered the new 28th gen+ from these guys [there was a link outside] so far its been an excellent service and everything seems great.
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Which one did you get the no-cut or cut model? Compatibility guide says no-cut model fits but I don't see how it could go in Defy without stripping the metal part from SIM-card slot.
I was looking into this the other day actually and it does seem possible. Check out this picture...
http://www.android-hilfe.de/attachm...n-dual-sim-adapter-fuer-das-defy-dsc07385.jpg
sophiewyles said:
I was looking into this the other day actually and it does seem possible. Check out this picture...
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Nice! I was thinking if it is possible to push the adapter from bottomside under the metal part and then push the sim normally in holder and according to the picture it seems possible! Excellent
Yea it looks good.
I've ordered one from the link above that Rhousman posted. I'll let you know how I get on if anyone's interested?
Hi there ... yes it would be great ... so did you ordered not CUT model? Thinking bout the same.
I bought "28th GEN PLUS (3G/2G) DUAL SIM CARD ADAPTER - NO CUT MODEL" from http://www.magic-sim.com/ and it does fit in Defy and it seems to be working.
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Insert the adapter from opposite direction to simcard holder
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It fits nicely and stays in place when you insert sim-card
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VERY tight fit when you insert your #1 Sim-card. Be careful!
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No problems putting back cover in place !!BUT!! it does push the cover a bit so I'm not 100% sure about waterproof sealing.
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When in use the sim toolkit changes SIMs and even mobile data seems to be working. I have to test it later.
webbimato said:
I bought "28th GEN PLUS (3G/2G) DUAL SIM CARD ADAPTER - NO CUT MODEL" from magic-sim.com and it does fit in Defy and it seems to be working.
When in use the sim toolkit changes SIMs and even mobile data seems to be working. I have to test it later.
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Do both sims work simultaneously?? Say, could i connect to the 3g on one sim and call a contact on the other sim, simultaneously?
AeroFlip said:
Do both sims work simultaneously?? Say, could i connect to the 3g on one sim and call a contact on the other sim, simultaneously?
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No that works only on dualsim phones
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does it reboots when change form sim1 to sim2?
+1
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All working good here. No need to reboot when changing sims or anything like that
tnx. but I did not mean that reboot is needed. So its hot swap?
I didnt get it. In old mobile phones with such adapters the only way to change sims was reboot.
In some DUOS mobile phones two SIMs works in the same time and you can select one or another to call someone and receive calls for both. Also two signal strength bars are displayed.
But how this adapter works with Defy?
Thanx!

[Q] Micro or Nano Simcard

I'm a little confused. Does SGS5 come with a Micro or Nano SIM?
gsmarena states nano sim...but they have made mistakes before :S
although it isn't hard to cut a nano sim haha
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gsmarena states nano sim...but they have made mistakes before :S
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It could be a mistake. Nano seems to be a placeholder on their website for lots of rumored devices. gsmarena removed what kind of sim they thought the device had and now they don't specify.
PDADB says it's micro-SIM
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=5448&view=1&c=samsung_sm-g900s_galaxy_s5_lte-a
I found this picture in another thread. It looks as if it is MicroSIM but I'm not sure. I would just like to know because I have until Sunday to buy myself a SIM on the deal I want. I know I can chop a micro down but I was worried as nano sims are supposed to be a fraction thinner than microsims and it might not fit properly. I cannot believe we have to have so many different sizes of SIM cards. I guess that's how the cookie crumbles.
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I'm pretty sure it's Micro-SIM now. This video mentions it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewkMksj2aNQ
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It could be a mistake. Nano seems to be a placeholder on their website for lots of rumored devices. gsmarena removed what kind of sim they thought the device had and now they don't specify.
PDADB says it's micro-SIM
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=5448&view=1&c=samsung_sm-g900s_galaxy_s5_lte-a
I found this picture in another thread. It looks as if it is MicroSIM but I'm not sure. I would just like to know because I have until Sunday to buy myself a SIM on the deal I want. I know I can chop a micro down but I was worried as nano sims are supposed to be a fraction thinner than microsims and it might not fit properly. I cannot believe we have to have so many different sizes of SIM cards. I guess that's how the cookie crumbles.
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I'm pretty sure it's Micro-SIM now. This video mentions it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewkMksj2aNQ
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yaaay i don't have to cut my simcard anymore
EDIT: LOL gsmarena just changed it to "Sim: Yes"
dmk0 said:
It could be a mistake. Nano seems to be a placeholder on their website for lots of rumored devices. gsmarena removed what kind of sim they thought the device had and now they don't specify.
PDADB says it's micro-SIM
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=5448&view=1&c=samsung_sm-g900s_galaxy_s5_lte-a
I found this picture in another thread. It looks as if it is MicroSIM but I'm not sure. I would just like to know because I have until Sunday to buy myself a SIM on the deal I want. I know I can chop a micro down but I was worried as nano sims are supposed to be a fraction thinner than microsims and it might not fit properly. I cannot believe we have to have so many different sizes of SIM cards. I guess that's how the cookie crumbles.
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I'm pretty sure it's Micro-SIM now. This video mentions it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewkMksj2aNQ
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I wouldn't jump to conclusions yet. That image only tells you the location of the "microSD" card slot and the "SIM" slot, so 2 slots total, since the sim card is on top of the microSD card. It only says "SIM", no identifier of micro or nano. Also, check out this clip. It says it's a nano. Wait for more sources.
it's micro usim, thats the same as the note 3.
kms108 said:
it's micro usim, thats the same as the note 3.
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micro usim? o.o
whats that?
my friend has a note 3 and he says its micro sim
spazzy1912 said:
micro usim? o.o
whats that?
my friend has a note 3 and he says its micro sim
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sim is 2g, usim is 3g.
kms108 said:
sim is 2g, usim is 3g.
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oh. i learn something new everyday
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oh. i learn something new everyday
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It really makes no differences, people still call it a sim card which is still correct.
I think it states it in the manual as well.
I preordere S5 from Vodafone and if I remember well it's standard micro sim (there was an option to ask for Lte sim card). It's micro sim
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