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[Q] new phone

hi all...
i m looking forward to buy a new android phone. i have 3 options.
1. HTC Desire
2. HTC HD2
3. Samsung Galaxy S I9000
can u help me choose please? which one u think is better and why?

desire/hd2, i prefer the desire though, hd2 has a lot of stuff going on around in dev, flash like crazy haha (im not a flashaholic), but then again it is fun to try out quad-boot os on your phone, id just stick with android though
Galaxy s = iphone knock off plus crap build quality and lag.
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kevin2516 said:
desire/hd2, i prefer the desire though, hd2 has a lot of stuff going on around in dev, flash like crazy haha (im not a flashaholic), but then again it is fun to try out quad-boot os on your phone, id just stick with android though
Galaxy s = iphone knock off plus crap build quality and lag.
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Eh? I thought Galaxy S with CM7 was pwnage.

im talking about in general. Desire ftw!
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kevin2516 said:
im talking about in general. Desire ftw!
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Nah... Desire is old... IMO if you want a Desire you might as well get a Nexus One. But I'm a geek
edit: Then again, here I am with a Wildfire so I shouldn't talk.

nhnt11 said:
Nah... Desire is old... IMO if you want a Desire you might as well get a Nexus One. But I'm a geek
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Op didnt give any other NEW choices did he, if he did id get a dual core phone or desire s (perfect screen size for me) 4inch+ = too big
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kevin2516 said:
Op didnt give any other NEW choices did he, if he did id get a dual core phone or desire s (perfect screen size for me) 4inch+ = too big
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Oooooh you were sticking to the OP's choices. lol

hd2 provides you with a bigger screen but with less color compare to desire... hd2 has also a newer processor, but his running wm... I would take hd2 and flash it to run android...

Galaxy s may be the best on paper but its laggy. If you want to mod it go for the hd2. If you want an official gingerbread update go 4 the desire
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kevin2516 said:
Op didnt give any other NEW choices did he, if he did id get a dual core phone or desire s (perfect screen size for me) 4inch+ = too big
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lol.... yeah i limited the choice to these 3 phones, because cellphones are are really expensive here in Pakistan.
i sold my wildfire for 20K, and HD2 will cost me 27k, Desire and galaxy round about 30k. (my budget wont allow me to go higher)

Desire. Friend got one, and, its pretty amazing. Seems to literally get hot though.
(Although, after comparing his stock ROM, and mine with CM7 and ADW Launcher EX, he feels my phone is far smoother and faster than his. hint hint. )

3xeno said:
Desire. Friend got one, and, its pretty amazing. Seems to literally get hot though.
(Although, after comparing his stock ROM, and mine with CM7 and ADW Launcher EX, he feels my phone is far smoother and faster than his. hint hint. )
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Yeah I know someone who has a Desire and feels rooted/overclocked/CM7 wildfire is smoother

Samsung is officially going gingerbread on sgs ,I have an sgs but it's bricked apart from that I'd say go for the galaxy put a good jacket on it you'll never think of how it feels again + trust me you will thank yourself once it's "pimped",max it out you'll see.......
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Buy either the wildfire s or galaxy s2.
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thank you all for the comments.
after reading the comments, i have decided to for HTC Desire.

port REQ Htc sensation rom leaked

I hope some of our Nexus S devs latch on to this one. It would be very cool for us to test it out.
Here's the link.
http://911sniper.blog.163.com/blog/static/142900881201131424811433/
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OuncE718 said:
I hope some of our Nexus S devs latch on to this one. It would be very cool for us to test it out.
Here's the link.
http://911sniper.blog.163.com/blog/static/142900881201131424811433/
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as far as i know. they didnt even port the old htc sense. you want them to port the new one ?
yeah i dont think so. they will port it to desire hd or hd2 or whatever htc device. but i highly doubt you will see it on galaxy S or Nexus S since they are made by samsung.
i could be wrong. but i dont see it happening. at least not any time soon.
besides. isnt getting htc sense or any launcher defeats the purpose of owning a nexus S ? people bought it for pure google expieriance. if you didnt buy your nexus S for that reason then you made the wrong choice of a phone

ll_l_x_l_ll said:
besides. isnt getting htc sense or any launcher defeats the purpose of owning a nexus S ? people bought it for pure google expieriance. if you didnt buy your nexus S for that reason then you made the wrong choice of a phone
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agree entirely.

ll_l_x_l_ll said:
as far as i know. they didnt even port the old htc sense. you want them to port the new one ?
yeah i dont think so. they will port it to desire hd or hd2 or whatever htc device. but i highly doubt you will see it on galaxy S or Nexus S since they are made by samsung.
i could be wrong. but i dont see it happening. at least not any time soon.
besides. isnt getting htc sense or any launcher defeats the purpose of owning a nexus S ? people bought it for pure google expieriance. if you didnt buy your nexus S for that reason then you made the wrong choice of a phone
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Actually sense is already ported to the NS. Where have you been? Isn't the NS a dev phone? Isn't Android open source? What's wrong with variety? You act like if SENSE, TOUCHWIZ or Blur roms are ported you wouldn't try it. If you don't like SENSE then you shouldn't of opened my post. Its not like the title didn't speak for itself. Thanks.
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I agree with the pure google experience part but honestly, if somebody puts their efforts into porting sense and creating another rom for the development section.
I don't see the harm of having another rom. Ns dev needs more roms. If you don't like it, don't use it. Android is filled with open customization.
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zephiK said:
I agree with the pure google experience part but honestly, if somebody puts their efforts into porting sense and creating another rom for the development section.
I don't see the harm of having another rom. Ns dev needs more roms. If you don't like it, don't use it. Android is filled with open customization.
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Thank you for this statement. We need more variety! What's wrong with choices? People change their minds all the time. We all know we would at least try a sense, touchwiz, etc port if it became available. That doesn't mean we would use it as a daily driver, but its nice to know if you want a different rom one week or the next you can switch.
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Sense 3.0

Do you think custom ROMs will allow us to have HTC's Sense UI 3.0 on this phone?

Oh... boy... here we go.. i admire you for having the balls to ask about Sense UI in Samsung thread. Hehe. Short answer is NO!!!
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You never know.. The original SGS has turned out a terrific developers phone so if the SGS2 has unlocked bootloaders i cant see why not
If htc sense is that important though just wait from the sensation

epsix said:
Oh... boy... here we go.. i admire you for having the balls to ask about Sense UI in Samsung thread. Hehe. Short answer is NO!!!
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Its already on the SGS to a fashion... no working data or wifi though yet lol

Guitarfreak26 said:
Its already on the SGS to a fashion... no working data or wifi though yet lol
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Yeah, half baked.
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I'd love to have it, with the recent reports showing the horsepower that it have coupled with Sense 3.0 that would be the perfect phone to have

If people want the HTC Sense experience then they should look at a HTC Phone. Although a Port is possible, its very time consuming and by the time someone actually port's it over with all the drivers working, your device will be close to the yearly refresh and you will want the next best thing. This will leave the developer in a limbo where his efforts didnt truly pay off.

dhruvmalik said:
If people want the HTC Sense experience then they should look at a HTC Phone. Although a Port is possible, its very time consuming and by the time someone actually port's it over with all the drivers working, your device will be close to the yearly refresh and you will want the next best thing. This will leave the developer in a limbo where his efforts didnt truly pay off.
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It's not possible, Galaxy S is half baked, Nexus S also try, half baked. Samsung uses totally different structure on android Nexus S can't even port TouchWiz and its the same manufacturer. I would love to get S II spec wise it blows the Sensation out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1041405
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Get a HTC and you will have sense and you don't have to worry or stress about being ported or not.
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onbacardi said:
Get a HTC and you will have sense and you don't have to worry or stress about being ported or not.
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Yes sir, sorry sir
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Why would u want Sense on Samsung?
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Motola Atrix
Samsung Captivate - CM7 1.2 ghz
Motorola Backflip - CM6

epsix said:
Yes sir, sorry sir
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Your dismissed
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rjayflo said:
Why would u want Sense on Samsung?
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Motola Atrix
Samsung Captivate - CM7 1.2 ghz
Motorola Backflip - CM6
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I see you have a Motorola Atrix 4G. What do you think about it? I'm in doubt between Atrix, S II and Sensation.
Thank you!

Ugh, how can people even like Sense. It is the worst android UI out of all the custom ones out there.

ryude said:
Ugh, how can people even like Sense. It is the worst android UI out of all the custom ones out there.
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Probably because of the animations. I do HATE the sense dock :/

ryude said:
Ugh, how can people even like Sense. It is the worst android UI out of all the custom ones out there.
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Id say its all about taste. Personally I think motorola's UI is the worst, followed closely by the apple wannabe touchwiz. Funny, I actually hated sense as well at first, but now that im using it for a while, I LOVE IT.
Also, its because htc has added soooo much functionality, like finding/wiping/ringing from anywhere(laptop) incase its lost, or stolen, etc. Plus auto-backup of messages, apprx 100 very useful widgets, plus may apps wich save you a lot of time if you had to download one by one. Basically, its a complete package that looks good and offers functionality that no other manufacturer can even come close to, especially being built in from start. no headaches. I myself wish it could be ported but I doubt, especially with how "involved" its gotten lately

cristianomc said:
I see you have a Motorola Atrix 4G. What do you think about it? I'm in doubt between Atrix, S II and Sensation.
Thank you!
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I had a Galaxy S, then Atrix and now Inspire. Next I'm buying Galaxy S II because the bootlogger is unlocked and I want the light weight, dual core processor power and video enhancements.
The Inspire is amazing. I like it far better than the Atrix because I can put custom roms on it. I was able to root the Atrix and do a few modifications but it was very limited. I strongly recommend the Inspire.
The Sensation is locked down as is the Atrix. If you want a good out of the box phone Atrix is as good as you get until the Galaxy S II arrives. Sensation will be great but probably about the same as the Galaxy S II.
It is hard to recommend a phone without knowing what you do with your phone. For me the unlocked boot logger is the difference between buying and not buying.

Personally I prefer Sense.I think that Samsung have basically copied the iPhone in design and UI. If someone could remove the native Samsung bloat and add sense, all would be good in the world(for me at least)

ragingredbull said:
Personally I prefer Sense.I think that Samsung have basically copied the iPhone in design and UI. If someone could remove the native Samsung bloat and add sense, all would be good in the world(for me at least)
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Couldn't have put it better, dude. trouble is, can we have the best of both worlds?
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I think we can. If enough people that have bought a SGS2 ask for sense then I am sure someone(developer) will be willing to design it for SGS2. From what I have seen of custom roms so far, I think that there are some more than capable developers out there that could do it. If I could write code I definitely would(perhaps I should start learning. The only question is can an old dog(me) learn new tricks?????)

Espresso ROM Finally Coming To The Fascinate

I've made Espresso ROM For The Droid X. And Will Now Finally Get It To The Fascinate. My Plan Was To Get It To All The Galaxy S Varients, Nexus One, Samsung Nexus S, Samsung Droid Charge, HTC My Touch 4G, HTC Droid Incredible, Wildfire, HTC Hero, Original HTC Desire, HTC G2 (Desire Z) And Aria.
When Will Espresso ROM Be Released?
Later This Week.
(If You Search Over On The Droid X Forums, You'll Find My ROMs Including Espresso, & Doubleshot)

awesome, more "coming soon" threads...ugh

Mtd or BML ?
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Fascinate MTD.

Thanks JT!
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Headcase8911 said:
Thanks JT!
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...JT?? Wheres jt?
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randum0city said:
...JT?? Wheres jt?
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His point is that JTs work on the fascinate is the reason all of these other mtd based roms are being ported to our device now.

solido888 said:
His point is that JTs work on the fascinate is the reason all of these other mtd based roms are being ported to our device now.
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Ahhh! Gotcha. Thanks
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Enyo. said:
I've made Espresso ROM For The Droid X. And Will Now Finally Get It To The Fascinate. My Plan Was To Get It To All The Galaxy S Varients, Nexus One, Samsung Nexus S, Samsung Droid Charge, HTC My Touch 4G, HTC Droid Incredible, Wildfire, HTC Hero, Original HTC Desire, HTC G2 (Desire Z) And Aria.
When Will Espresso ROM Be Released?
Later This Week.
(If You Search Over On The Droid X Forums, You'll Find My ROMs Including Espresso, & Doubleshot)
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Umm..so far all the Gingerbread roms that are out are still having some issues...low in- call volume, no hardware acceleration(videos), no flashlight...etc...and aren't quite fully functional as Froyo is just yet..which is perfectly understandable...
I was just wondering if your up coming rom will still have those issues....or if you are going to blow our minds with a fully functional Gingerbread rom for the Fasciante...

speedingcheetah said:
Umm..so far all the Gingerbread roms that are out are still having some issues...low in- call volume, no hardware acceleration(videos), no flashlight...etc...and aren't quite fully functional as Froyo is just yet..which is perfectly understandable...
I was just wondering if your up coming rom will still have those issues....or if you are going to blow our minds with a fully functional Gingerbread rom for the Fasciante...
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Completely understand your frustration. Unfortunately, if the devs don't have a full, stable source drop to work with, we really can't hold the current crop of common /generally recognized GB issues against them. Heck, they're probably more frustrated about it than the rest of us
OP, I look forward to the upcoming release and maturation of your project!

Another option would be terrific, but good luck with the SD card!
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dont feel like its personal if you are met with flak about "new and upcoming" roms here. you can thank Tonu for that.
but good luck either way man!

My point is that no legit devs post coming soon ****...they work on something then release it...hype is just lame and time after time these threads end in disappointment or the rom just doesn't offer anything worth a hype thread

nitsuj17 said:
My point is that no legit devs post coming soon ****...they work on something then release it...hype is just lame and time after time these threads end in disappointment or the rom just doesn't offer anything worth a hype thread
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please nitsuj. I want NO beef but, cut the kid some slack, he's just trying to help everyone, trying to make our phones better. u guys have a coming soon tab on the tsm site ....but anyway he seems like a good kid trying to help. let's give him a break. what he makes could be really good. please don't push people down before we see what they can do. hahah I mean cmon
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jkat797 said:
please nitsuj. I want NO beef but, cut the kid some slack, he's just trying to help everyone, trying to make our phones better. u guys have a coming soon tab on the tsm site ....but anyway he seems like a good kid trying to help. let's give him a break. what he makes could be really good. please don't push people down before we see what they can do. hahah I mean cmon
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yes on our *website* we have a coming soon tab..we dont make those posts on xda
if he has something good...then great
the work would stand on its own without hype...but i looked at his post history and there are nothing but coming soon threads for various phones
*if* one is going to do this type of thread, at least list what the rom is comprised of (aosp, tw, other) what differentiates it from other existing roms (besides a theme, there are enough throms out there) and why it needs to be hyped up
either way ill eject myself from the thread now

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yes on our *website* we have a coming soon tab..we dont make those posts on xda
if he has something good...then great
the work would stand on its own without hype...but i looked at his post history and there are nothing but coming soon threads for various phones
*if* one is going to do this type of thread, at least list what the rom is comprised of (aosp, tw, other) what differentiates it from other existing roms (besides a theme, there are enough throms out there) and why it needs to be hyped up
either way ill eject myself from the thread now
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I do know one of my roms will have 2.4 Ice Cream when google releases the SDK. But most are AOSP coupled with Touchwiz. They will also come with my version of The JIT Compiler. They will also come with my version of build.prop tweaks. And more.
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nitsuj17 said:
yes on our *website* we have a coming soon tab..we dont make those posts on xda
if he has something good...then great
the work would stand on its own without hype...but i looked at his post history and there are nothing but coming soon threads for various phones
*if* one is going to do this type of thread, at least list what the rom is comprised of (aosp, tw, other) what differentiates it from other existing roms (besides a theme, there are enough throms out there) and why it needs to be hyped up
either way ill eject myself from the thread now
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The nexus one just got the Espresso Rom yesterday.
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Enyo. said:
The nexus one just got the Espresso Rom yesterday.
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yes and its about the most vague op ive ever seen...and for the fascinate u wont just be compiling off the sdk...you ll have to kang jt's mtd setup or ull never release anything

[Q] Who else would love a Sense port ROM?

Before I say anything, Devs please do not see this as a request or as demanding in ANY way. You all do fantastic work and really make this device shine. Anyways... I was wondering if anyone else wishes there was a Sense based port. With the DNA being so close relativity in specs, I am sort of surprised there has not been any talk of a port. This is simply to see who else would like to see a port and if there is any interest in one. I am absolutley not a developer and could not create a ROM to save my life, I'm just a lowly power user lol.

I would much rather have Sense 5(when it comes out) since it's newer and looks cleaner.

No way. Honestly, no offense but if you like Sense then you should have gotten an HTC device.
I also disagree about it being cleaner. Stock a android is just beautiful.
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enviii said:
No way. Honestly, no offense but if you like Sense then you should have gotten an HTC device.
I also disagree about it being cleaner. Stock a android is just beautiful.
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Sheesh. I was just asking if anyone else would like it. Honestly I would go nuts with any HTC phone, sense is just fun to play around with, not preferred over PA for example.
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I would also like to see a sense rom, it would be cool to be able to have one phone that could run any ui. We already have Motorola blur, why not HTC sense, and touchwiz. If you don't like it you don't have to flash it. I love the nexus line of hardware and aosp, but for flashaholics like me, the more ROMs available the better off I am. I wish I could build ROMs but I don't even know where to start. I would definitely donate to any dev that could build a stable sense ROM.
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lyall29 said:
I wish I could build ROMs but I don't even know where to start.
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How many roms would we have if everyone had this attitude? None. Every developer, at one time, didn't know where to start.
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enviii said:
No way. Honestly, no offense but if you like Sense then you should have gotten an HTC device.
I also disagree about it being cleaner. Stock a android is just beautiful.
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Pretty sure you misinterpreted my post...I meant Sense 5 is cleaner than 4/4+, which is true after all.

mitchdickson said:
How many roms would we have if everyone had this attitude? None. Every developer, at one time, didn't know where to start.
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I don't have the time to learn how to build ROMs. My wife stays on my case as it is, and all I do is flash a ROM and set it up the way I want it. I go to work to make money so I can pay someone to do all the things that I don't want to do and the things I don't know how to do. I have one set of skills and you probably have a different set of skills in your line of work. I don't know anybody who knows how to do everything. This is why I said that I would donate to a dev who comes up with a sense ROM.
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I came from the HTC G2, the stock android version of the Desire Z (codename: Vision). Basically, in my opinion at least, any Sense ROM that was not a kang of a ROM shipped by HTC for the Vision has a bunch of bugs and oddities and things that just don't work nicely. And the Vision has one the best developers community that I have seen around. You still get CM 10.1 nightlies uover there even as the last update from HTC was GB back in 2010.
So... while I support having choices, thus would welcome any Sense ROM for the N4, I actually don't think it's a good idea to try.
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I would like to try Sense 5. I wouldn't use it as my daily driver. But I'm definitely not opposed to having more options.

I bought this phone so that I could escape things like Sense and Touchwiz... It would seem counterproductive to me to put it on this phone?

Mr. Chocolate said:
I bought this phone so that I could escape things like Sense and Touchwiz... It would seem counterproductive to me to put it on this phone?
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And I bought it for the amazing Dev community. The great thing about a ROM is you can choose not to flash it. Isn't it better to have the option?

estallings15 said:
And I bought it for the amazing Dev community. The great thing about a ROM is you can choose not to flash it. Isn't it better to have the option?
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Now I understand...You see they feel obligated to try something they don't want, fascinating, isn't it?

Ace42 said:
Now I understand...You see they feel obligated to try something they don't want, fascinating, isn't it?
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Indeed

We should (those who want a sense ROM)
Put a bounty for this sense ROM. Ill put 20$ in the pot
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I'll give $20.00 for a sense ROM.
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jaestreetss said:
We should (those who want a sense ROM)
Put a bounty for this sense ROM. Ill put 20$ in the pot
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I would love to contribute but I'm a student and don't have a credit card... Therefore no PayPal. Stupid teenager problems!
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Maybe, wait for sense 5 it's going to be much lighter than before, it might be easier to port.

cyanogendroid said:
Before I say anything, Devs please do not see this as a request or as demanding in ANY way. You all do fantastic work and really make this device shine. Anyways... I was wondering if anyone else wishes there was a Sense based port. With the DNA being so close relativity in specs, I am sort of surprised there has not been any talk of a port. This is simply to see who else would like to see a port and if there is any interest in one. I am absolutley not a developer and could not create a ROM to save my life, I'm just a lowly power user lol.
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ABSOLUTELY NOT!
Sense is a GIANT turd. It's the main reason I got rid of my One X+.

I found sense to actually be pretty good on the one x after ripping all the crap out. Heck I'd be happy just to have the sense camera. Half the people crying probably haven't even tried it.
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