The tablet itself without the dock
Honeycomb = check
True desktop web browsing = check
Flash 10.2 = check
True muiltitask = check
1GB RAM = check
Tegra 2 processor = check
Mini HDMI port = check
Expandable microSD slot = check
Own user customisation = check
Widgets = check
Hardware = 8.5
The back of the Eeepad is plastic but still feels solid. Nice edges and the power/volumn button is where it should be. A nice outer boarder from the front bezel, not too thick just about right to distinguish from other tablets.
Screen = 8
Its bright and sharp as it's using a IPS panel which makes it viewable from all angles. Can be a little trouble using it outside but still better then other pads I have seen. very vibrant may I add.
Sound = 10
Why? well it has speakers on either side of the tablet instead of the back! very clear and loud. Not mono but SRS 3D stereo sound.
Camera = 6
1.2mp front camera and 5mp back camera with HD support, it does its job well. Not really into using my tablet for video or photo taking.
Battery = 7.5
Without the dock I have been using it for atleast 7-8 hours. mostly viewing websites and listening to music and a little gaming.
Weight = 7
Not too bad but you will start to feel the weight of the tablet after a long period.
Software = 8.5
Well Honeycomb is a new OS from Google. Has it's ups and downs but the overall experience has been pleasent and solid. An exciting interface which you can customise to your liking. The web browsing/email client is the best thing about the new OS.
Not going to get into this new OS too much as this review is about the tablet itself, so moving on...
This tablet has something call Mynet which you can use to stream video/music/picture content from any DLNA device which is very useful.
A working microSD slot is ready for expanding your memory out of the box.
Cons:
The tablet do not charge when plug into the computer for file transfering but only in sleep mode or while the tablet is turned off via USB port.
Overall score
8.7
UPDATE:
Firmware update
Added:
Web browsing seems smoother and faster.
Example while on the ASUS homepage scrolling up and down don't lag like before, same with other sites. heavy flash sites seems smoother but still lag a little but alot better then before.
Mycloud adds My content - My desktop - @Vibe
Splashtop Remote works smoothless and its free
Mear - Great online storage music app to listen to your music where ever you are as long as your in a wifi hotspot.
Toke me about 2 hours to upload 465 music files (40mb DL speed & 10mb UL speed)
"Want to listen to your favorite songs anywhere anytime? MEar is the cloud music service provided by ASUS WebStorage, once you upload the music on MEar, you can listen to your favorite songs anywhere, from the computer or mobile phone. Your songs in your PC will be available when you are on the way to office. When you are in the office, you can listen to your songs with MEar by opening the web browser and do not need to install the application on the computer. Moreover, your playlist will be synced and you do not have to re-edit again when you open MEar on different devices on each device." (http://blog.asuswebstorage.com/mear/)
MyZine widget. (big & small)
(small) Really useful widget that shows a slideshow of your pictures. Last music played, last webpage.
(big) Extra weather/email/events/books boxes added.
For playing RMVB/AVI video formats please use Vital player. It plays without any hiccups. Have not tried any HD movies yet.
The tablet reads your MicroSD card aswell.
On the tablet. File manager >Removable >MicroSD
On the PC, the folder be inside >Device storage >MicroSD
Thanks for sharing your experience.
I have been reading comparison reviews on other tablets and one observation concerning the Xoom that disturbed me was that it is only chargeable by way of an AC adapter. A computer USB port just won't do it. Which rather defeats some of the portability benefits of a tablet.
What about the Transformer in this regard. Can you charge it from your PC?
Not a single score about 8.5 was given, but it still gets a 9? just messin' with you. Thanks for your review and thoughts!
Thanks for the opinions. I agree with all of them apart from the comments about the software/Honeycomb. To me, it feels quite buggy in a few places, and even a little bit unfinished. As you say though, it is a brand new OS, and I'm certain it'll get fixed over time.
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Thanks for sharing your experience.
I have been reading comparison reviews on other tablets and one observation concerning the Xoom that disturbed me was that it is only chargeable by way of an AC adapter. A computer USB port just won't do it. Which rather defeats some of the portability benefits of a tablet.
What about the Transformer in this regard. Can you charge it from your PC?
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No - The Transformer also requires an AC adaptor to correctly charge fully. All last night, my Transformer was plugged into my iMac - it only increased 12% in about 9 hours... it does charge, but it is not going to keep you moving much.
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Thanks for sharing your experience.
I have been reading comparison reviews on other tablets and one observation concerning the Xoom that disturbed me was that it is only chargeable by way of an AC adapter. A computer USB port just won't do it. Which rather defeats some of the portability benefits of a tablet.
What about the Transformer in this regard. Can you charge it from your PC?
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It only charges when its on sleep mode or when the tablet is turned off while plugged into the computer via USB.
but when it's on awake mode lol well it stops charging...
Putzy said:
Thanks for the opinions. I agree with all of them apart from the comments about the software/Honeycomb. To me, it feels quite buggy in a few places, and even a little bit unfinished. As you say though, it is a brand new OS, and I'm certain it'll get fixed over time.
No - The Transformer also requires an AC adaptor to correctly charge fully. All last night, my Transformer was plugged into my iMac - it only increased 12% in about 9 hours... it does charge, but it is not going to keep you moving much.
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well I just reviewed it as a new OS and while its buggy at times it still gives me a pleasent usage and solid all rounf experience. All this will be iron out later date and by then well it be getting a near perfect score
You sure about the charge? try turning the creen off or the tablet itself and see if it fully charges
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Not a single score about 8.5 was given, but it still gets a 9? just messin' with you. Thanks for your review and thoughts!
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haha maybe a overall score of 8.7 would be a little bit better
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You sure about the charge? try turning the creen off or the tablet itself and see if it fully charges
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Yeah. It did charge, but really slowly. Everytime I turned the screen on to look, it didn't even indicate it was charging.
To confirm, the screen was off, but the tablet was on. I'm going to try it with the tablet off tonight completely though, se we'll see what happens.
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Yeah. It did charge, but really slowly. Everytime I turned the screen on to look, it didn't even indicate it was charging.
To confirm, the screen was off, but the tablet was on. I'm going to try it with the tablet off tonight completely though, se we'll see what happens.
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Ok it should fully charge
Thanks for all the input on computer USB charging. It will be interesting to see the definitive observation.
My usual mode of charging my USB compatible devices is with this AC/USB charger
http://usb.brando.com/prod_detail.php?prod_id=00844
So if the Transformer is charged by a computer USB port then this adapter is bound to work.
I am looking to save on carrying around an AC wall brick.
rebski said:
Thanks for sharing your experience.
I have been reading comparison reviews on other tablets and one observation concerning the Xoom that disturbed me was that it is only chargeable by way of an AC adapter. A computer USB port just won't do it. Which rather defeats some of the portability benefits of a tablet.
What about the Transformer in this regard. Can you charge it from your PC?
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Yes it does charge when plugged into USB on laptop, but only if the screen is off; which of course makes perfect sense as why would you sit at your laptop/pc and be using your asus
This means you can charge your asus while your transfering files onto it, which is what i did for hours yesterday afternoon
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Yes it does charge when plugged into USB on laptop, but only if the screen is off; which of course makes perfect sense as why would you sit at your laptop/pc and be using your asus
This means you can charge your asus while your transfering files onto it, which is what i did for hours yesterday afternoon
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Strange.. my iMac overnight couldn't even charge it correctly. Definately going to need to try this again.
Can anyone confirm this is stock Honeycomb (ie no Asus "Sense" or "Motoblur")? I think I read somewhere that it was Asus-customized, but maybe it was Acer for the Iconia, I'm not sure. I know they put on an "Asus" keyboard instead of hcomb's stock one, but if that's about it, it's no big deal.
It was confirmed several times: it's stock apart from several icons and some apps (launcher, widget with time and weather) that you can uninstall any time.
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Can anyone confirm this is stock Honeycomb (ie no Asus "Sense" or "Motoblur")? I think I read somewhere that it was Asus-customized, but maybe it was Acer for the Iconia, I'm not sure. I know they put on an "Asus" keyboard instead of hcomb's stock one, but if that's about it, it's no big deal.
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well its stock honeycomb to me, unless its the asus "sense" but without the heavy layout of their brand overlay.
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Battery = 7.5
Without the dock I have been using it for atleast 7-8 hours. mostly viewing websites and listening to music and a little gaming.
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Are you saying you're getting 7-8 hours total, i.e., down to 0% remaining? That seems a little light to me--I'm getting 10 hours+ out of the Xoom with the same basic usage.
Could you be a little more specific with battery life? Thanks!
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Yes it does charge when plugged into USB on laptop, but only if the screen is off; which of course makes perfect sense as why would you sit at your laptop/pc and be using your asus
This means you can charge your asus while your transfering files onto it, which is what i did for hours yesterday afternoon
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Sorry but I don't understand your logic here. If you refer to this user experience
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035061
Post #1
"Charging cable is ridiculously short and proprietary so you can't replace it! This is my major gripe. When I plug the device in at night to charge on my nightstand I can't use the device in bed - in fact I had to rearrange the stand just to get it long enough to actually let me put the device on top."
If the tablet is either chargeable or at least usable via a USB port then that short cable scenario could be avoided by use of a (in my case) 6000mAH external Power Charger.
Sitting in bed with a tablet which is connected to a 3.5" x 3.5" x 1" box is no great hardship under those depleted battery circumstances.
Of course if the tablet is not chargable by USB then considerrable inconvenience sets in. As you can read above.
Regarding battery life: in can depend on the WiFi signal strange. Also if you turn off the WiFi when you don't use it it should really help.
wynand32 said:
Are you saying you're getting 7-8 hours total, i.e., down to 0% remaining? That seems a little light to me--I'm getting 10 hours+ out of the Xoom with the same basic usage.
Could you be a little more specific with battery life? Thanks!
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well i have wifi on,music playing in the background,playing games like pocket legend, web browsing. backlight on full.
boiboi_67 said:
well i have wifi on,music playing in the background,playing games like pocket legend, web browsing. backlight on full.
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And that burns you down to 0% left? Hmmm... Backlight on full is a difference, I typically let my Xoom pick the brightness and it's usually at around 50-60%. I doubt that I'd use the Asus at 100% brightness, since it's brighter than the Xoom's screen (or should be) and the Xoom is too bright for me at 100% except for the absolutely brightest environments.
Can't wait to get a Transformer to compare...
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Just got my dock today and all I have to say is, wow. This is one helluva sweet device now. The functionality of both touch screen and keyboard rock!
I love the extra expansion, it's crazy how how much extra you get with the dock. I can now have the 16g onboard + 16gig micro sd plugged into tablet and 16g Sd plugged into dock. That's one helluva lot of storage for a tablet and for the price, it's outstanding. Add the two USB connections and it rules. Looks damn good too.
Great job Asus. Love my xformer
Ya it'd own even more if they fix the 4% per hour battery drain on the dock when the tablet is docked and it's sleeping.
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Ya it'd own even more if they fix the 4% per hour battery drain on the dock when the tablet is docked and it's sleeping.
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Man, it never ceases to amaze me how many people just want to whinge on this forum. Just plain amazing - now go back to the dock-battery thread.
Love my dock too - use the tab about 6 hours a day, charge the tablet every or every second day, but it is fantastic when out and about. Last Sunday was out and about without access to Internet or computers for 12 hours - but my trusty TF brought me season 3 of "The Big Band Theory" to keep me entertained!
Maybe yours is an early version or defective, mine doesn't drain like that. I've had no charging issues. The keyboard will always charge the Transformer unless it is fully charged and use the keyboard battery first, if the Transformer is using WiFi or GPS it will drain the keyboard.
absolutely agree with OP. Fantastic device, even if it does have a few quirks. I wish the root development scene was moving a little further, cause there is alot of potential for this thing!
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darkonex said:
Ya it'd own even more if they fix the 4% per hour battery drain on the dock when the tablet is docked and it's sleeping.
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Actually, I don't think that'll be an issue. I have the newer dock model (B60KAS) and from what I've read/seen there is no drain.
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brandon... said:
absolutely agree with OP. Fantastic device, even if it does have a few quirks. I wish the root development scene was moving a little further, cause there is alot of potential for this thing!
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I'm starting to wish I were an affiliate, I've sold three people on them and they're all very pleased.
Me and my eee pad plus dock have now, reached an understanding, it is a truly amazing device when coupled with the dock, as an avid fan of android from launch and the owner of an original I pad, I have now realised that all my gripes are based on comparison with the I pad. OK it does have a few little annoyances, but on the whole after a month of use, this thing seems to be getting better by the day. I think Asus are bang on the money with the TF. The screen is superb and build quality better than most high end laptops. I agree with earlier comments about the negatives played against the TF being over the top, I myself was of the original wingers. But everything it does that works OK, it does brilliantly, and im sure the rest will follow.
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Actually, I don't think that'll be an issue. I have the newer dock model (B60KAS) and from what I've read/seen there is no drain.
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So do you think it is hardware related? Would be a bummer, I still hope this is fixable with a firmware upgrade for the dock
Ordered my dock yesterday, will hopefully get it tomorrow.
Really looking forward to it after reading this thread
Yes, dock is really great.
I charge my TF once a day (during the night) and could work a whole day of meetings, mail replying and browsing without to be worried of battery lack.
However, I think the battery time could be better (perhaps, Prime 1.5 combined with 1.5 Ghz kernel is the cause), seems to be better when I was with stock system. The Dock also provide a very convenient way to type texts, etc... without transporting my portable PC.
A very good investment (even somes think it's not really necessary) on my side.
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You are easily impressed. LOL!!!
It is a neat little device....but there will always be something newer....but not necessarily better.
I do however, love the expansion options made available to us with the dock.
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qwer23 said:
So do you think it is hardware related? Would be a bummer, I still hope this is fixable with a firmware upgrade for the dock
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Not sure, I just finished reading further and I guess some people on even the same model as mine have the issue. I'll keep an eye on things and see how it goes. Not sure if it'll be an issue or not, I will update later.
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Digiguest said:
You are easily impressed. LOL!!!
It is a neat little device....but there will always be something newer....but not necessarily better.
I do however, love the expansion options made available to us with the dock.
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After having owned an iPad, yes, I'm easily impressed by devices that don't suck.
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So do you think it is hardware related? Would be a bummer, I still hope this is fixable with a firmware upgrade for the dock
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I own a b50kas and have no drain, others have, nobody even knows whether it is a defective tablet or dock that causes the problem, how many tablets docks are affected ? Maybe only a few, if i would have this problem i would rma both tablet and dock.
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I was pretty sure everybody has this battery drain issue but now seeing some peeps come out of the woodwork just today claiming they don't. Now I didn't notice this battery drain issue until other users started mentioning it so then I paid closer attention to it, well that plus somebody put out a battery widget that showed you the dock level whereas before I didn't have a way to check. I have not shut my Transformer off while docked and let it sit to see if it then doesn't drain, if it doesn't then I suspect it's possible some of us including myself have some app running (maybe the dual battery widget?) that's causing it. I shall try this tonight.
I think the reason that a few don't see the draining is that they using the combo with a transformers at 100%. Because i doing it right now and i don't see the problem. So everybody with the problem should charge both to 100% and testing it.
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I think the reason that a few don't see the draining is that they using the combo with a transformers at 100%. Because i doing it right now and i don't see the problem. So everybody with the problem should charge both to 100% and testing it.
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No as I stated my tablet is always at 100% and I have this issue, I actually just leave mine docked all the time and when I put it up for example when I leave for work, or go to bed, my tablet is 100% and the dock may be anywhere from 30% to 96% and this issue happens, so it has nothing to do with not having it at 100% when you dock it.
I wonder, does everybody here use a dual battery widget? I've always wondered if maybe the widget itself is the cause, liek it' spinging the dock for battery level all the time. Would be interesting to see if we say charge everything up to 100%, uninstall the battery widget and reboot just to ensure it's gone and not left running, then let it sit idle and reinstall it later and recheck. I may do this tonight/tomorrow and see.
I agree. I ordered the dock with mine when I got it and haven't looked back. I use it with the dock probably 90% of the time. Its a good mix of function and form for my use. This device pretty much replaced a laptop/netbook/tablet for me. Combined with a WiFi hotspot from my Inspire 4G this thing rocks.
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Just got the evo3d and wish there was something like this for it,
I've grown attached to the dock and carry it everywhere with me.
My friend just calls it a modular netbook...and now I am inclined to agree. A really awesome modular netbook with a crazy good touchscreen, battery life for days and I really like the Honeycomb OS in this environment.
The only time I take it out of the keyboard is when I want to read on the Kindle app (which is really cool btw...if you have a regular Kindle it will sync the pages).
same her, only ou of the dock when my little son (4) is playing racing games on it!
I leave my Transformer​ in the Dock at home, but when I go out to a coffee house or out somewhere for casual email and surfing, I just take the Tablet to save weight.
I only remove mine from the dock when I need to view something in portrait (i.e. reading books, or comics) or when I'm taking pictures or video.
The look on people's faces when I undock is pretty awesome.
100% out of the dock. I never got the dock. I loved the whole concept of the dock but knew i would never use it.
Dont get me wrong. not knocking the dock- just wasn;t for me.
I wouldn;t mind the extra battery life though.
morning and afternoon: with the dock (using office pe); evening: just the tablet (surfing, email, angry birds, forums).
tonyz3 said:
100% out of the dock. I never got the dock. I loved the whole concept of the dock but knew i would never use it.
Dont get me wrong. not knocking the dock- just wasn;t for me.
I wouldn;t mind the extra battery life though.
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Try it with the dock for a week and see how your opinion changes.
newtybar said:
I've grown attached to the dock and carry it everywhere with me.
My friend just calls it a modular netbook...and now I am inclined to agree. A really awesome modular netbook with a crazy good touchscreen, battery life for days and I really like the Honeycomb OS in this environment.
The only time I take it out of the keyboard is when I want to read on the Kindle app (which is really cool btw...if you have a regular Kindle it will sync the pages).
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I'm half and half. Works great both ways.
I'm half and half as well. Docked at the house mostly, but tablet-only on the go most of the time. I still take the dock with me for the extra juice if it is needed.
Either way, awesome concept.
i`d say about 70% without the dock, 30% with, but I always have the dock with me.
Im about 70/30. I read at night without and about split my browsing about 50/50
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if i'm reading or even casual browsing I might take it out but more often than not I am docking.
tonyz3 said:
100% out of the dock. I never got the dock. I loved the whole concept of the dock but knew i would never use it.
Dont get me wrong. not knocking the dock- just wasn;t for me.
I wouldn;t mind the extra battery life though.
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My feelings exactly! Haven't found any reason to buy the dock after using it all these months.
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rio911 said:
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My feelings exactly! Haven't found any reason to buy the dock after using it all these months.
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I thought I didn't need the dock....until I got the dock...and now I won't anywhere without it (nor do most of the people who have it).
I am the same way; I love the flexibility to do either
Probably 70/30 dock/no dock here as well. One thing i do more and more, though, is that I use the dock like a portable charger. I charge it while using the tab by itself, and when it gets low I unplug the dock from the wall and use it to charge the tab (as it charges automatically from the dock). Then when the dock is empty, I disconnect the tab, plug the dock into the wall, and start again. I try to time the stages so that I'm doing my e-mailing etc while the dock is in use, and games when it's separate and charging.
That way, I can use my TF indefinitely without ever having to use it while it's plugged into the wall.
Which is convenient, because that cord is damned short.
The only time it is off the dock is when my sons play games that require portrait view or gyro steering.
The dock works so well as a stand and screen protector that I do not even bother to buy a sleeve. Extra battery life and faster typing with physical kb is definite plus.
Since using an ipad for games, my TF never leaves the dock - there's no reason to now.
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I don't have a dock and I am not going to buy one. It'z just perfect without it. I am in Thailand right now and I am using it a lot. I do everything you can imagine. And it's super stable all the time.
Mostly with the dock..Sometimes without ...especially when the battery in it has died and I'm charging it.
I like it both ways but with the dock more.
I just posted a very positive review of the TF300 today and just got back home after being at work for ten hours. I left the dock and tablet at over 95%, but just got home to find the dock at 0% and the tablet at 46%. This is obviously awful and makes the Toshiba Excite seem great in comparison.
Settings:
MobileDock battery saving mode is on
Disconnect network during sleep is on
Set to balanced mode
Set to turn off after two minutes
I turned the tablet off before I closed to the dock and when just opened the display was off.
The only two listings are 64% for screen and 36% for idle.
Is this normal? If so, this is abnormal.
weird, i don't recall that ever happening to me... try it again, charge it to %100 and leave it on sleep mode at night and check in the morning if the problem persists. if so you may have a defective unit so return it using your warranty.
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Another thing I notice is at least in Dolphin, the browser crashes when trying to view Flash video in full screen. I have never had that happen with any tablet or phone before. Weird. Like always, set in desktop mode for user agent.
Edit: Must have been a fluke since a restart fixed it. need to charge now anyway to see if I get the drain again.
I noticed if you turn off the tablet then dock it, the tablet will turn back on. But have never noticed a battery loss that significant. So be sure to dock the tablet first then power down the tablet.
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Another thing I notice is at least in Dolphin, the browser crashes when trying to view Flash video in full screen. I have never had that happen with any tablet or phone before. Weird. Like always, set in desktop mode for user agent.
Edit: Must have been a fluke since a restart fixed it. need to charge now anyway to see if I get the drain again.
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Most browsers arent 4.0 optimized best browser i have found is boat browser its amazingly smooth and full screen flash is working
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I've had mine for over a month now. Had something similar happen one time. Best I could figure out was ICS did not properly shut down a game I had running. I assume it was just a rare random occurence.
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Another thing I notice is at least in Dolphin, the browser crashes when trying to view Flash video in full screen. I have never had that happen with any tablet or phone before. Weird. Like always, set in desktop mode for user agent.
Edit: Must have been a fluke since a restart fixed it. need to charge now anyway to see if I get the drain again.
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You should check out the new dolphin beta that just came out today, supposedly wickedly fast. It is here: http://dolphin-browser.com/2012/06/dolphin-browser-is-the-fastest-html5-mobile-browser-try-out-our-dolphin-engine-in-beta/
It did it again last night:
Made sure no apps were pushing data and turned notifications off for all apps
Restarted the device and opened no apps
Five minutes later I put the device to sleep (closed it).
The display was off
Result: This morning the dock was dead and the tablet was at 65%. This was after only six and a half hours (I usually do not sleep much).
The only activity was the display at 84% and idle at 16%. I checked a few times through the seam of where the KB and tablet are closed and the display was off for thirty minutes before went to sleep. I then had to get up a few hours later to let my dog out and the display was still off.
The last time I had problems like this was the infamous A500 problems where the display would come on, stay on and the device would die. In this case, the display is not coming on, yet the display is eating the battery and the device is warm (dock and tablet). The A500 was obvious, since the display was on.
Folks, I just want something to work correctly. My HTC View loses 5% over three days and my iPad 3 wifi loses 1%.
How can the display be off, yet the device be warm and the battery log show the display is the majority of the usage? No doubt the display was off (at least at the times I checked).
The display is the majority of the usage period. When in normal yesterday with 100% brightness the display used 99% of my battery use. That extra 1% was for the dozen or so apps I had used. The fact that the idle hit that high is a good thing but something else may be affecting it.
Have you tried disconnecting the tablet from the dock and then letting it sleep?
That is my next test, but if they can not behave together, the value of having the TF300 diminishes. I would need to keep them is need to leave seperate, since defeats the function for me.
I see the point in at least testing to see if the dock is the issue. Could be a bum unit, but also could be the dock does not like cards being left in.
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That is my next test, but if they can not behave together, the value of having the TF300 diminishes. I would need to keep them is need to leave seperate, since defeats the function for me.
I see the point in at least testing to see if the dock is the issue. Could be a bum unit, but also could be the dock does not like cards being left in.
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My tf300t works amazingly without any battery problems.. I'm a very heavy user of it. also try getting that app that monitors background/network process...forgot name if someone could help. Also the dock could be at fault since the dock automatically turns on the tf300t same as if you would charge it with the cable it turns it on while charging.
I believe the build.prop mod contains something about deep sleep that might help ya but if ur in the 30 days just replace it why bother when u might have an intermittent defective unit . problems that can happen once in a while might be a pain in the ass later on.
I do not regret choosing this tablet over everything else on the market it works great and it is replacing a laptop for me.
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I've had no problems with the battery on my tf300. It lasts all day when I use it (and because it's new I'm giving it some heavy use) and when I do need to charge it it only takes an hour or two. Maybe because you just close it something doesn't shut off. I don't own the dock.... Yet but when I do I think the extra life out of that will be awesome. On a second thought I was also wondering what would happen if you just left it on the charger overnight? I put my phone in a dock to make it my alarm clock every night with no problems. Is a tablets battery different that it wouldn't be healthy for it to be left on the charger? Or does it needs to fully drain then charge to 100%?
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I agree it is nice system so hope I figure it out. My Office Max dock should be in soon, so have to return this dock anyway. OM was $100 (sale) and BB is $150. BB matched the OM price on the tablet ($350), but the dock was not in stock at OM. Ended up ordering one online from them.
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I've had no problems with the battery on my tf300. It lasts all day when I use it (and because it's new I'm giving it some heavy use) and when I do need to charge it it only takes an hour or two. Maybe because you just close it something doesn't shut off. I don't own the dock.... Yet but when I do I think the extra life out of that will be awesome. On a second thought I was also wondering what would happen if you just left it on the charger overnight? I put my phone in a dock to make it my alarm clock every night with no problems. Is a tablets battery different that it wouldn't be healthy for it to be left on the charger? Or does it needs to fully drain then charge to 100%?
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I normally do leave it on charger but it is problematic when away from home, since uses as much battery as when on. Not to mention it can not be doing the batteries any good.
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I normally do leave it on charger but it is problematic when away from home, since uses as much battery as when on. Not to mention it can not be doing the batteries any good.
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why not just return it for another one? instead of going through so much trouble. rather be safe than sorry
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For process of elimination I tested the battery drain with the sdxc card out of the dock. This seems to help, but still have over 20% battery drain (a lot less, but still bad).
Next step is the tablet on its own and then I will test with my newer dock, since just came in from Office Max (need to return the $150 one to Best Buy). Hoping the dock was the issue since if the dock and tablet can not behave together, I will return them and not dwell on it anymore.
Hoping the drain is gone so can keep Having the sd card, micro sd and 32gb internal solves all my gaming and media needs, but need the batteries to not bleed out when should be asleep (not practical to travel with- as is).
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For process of elimination I tested the battery drain with the sdxc card out of the dock. This seems to help, but still have over 20% battery drain (a lot less, but still bad).
Next step is the tablet on its own and then I will test with my newer dock, since just came in from Office Max (need to return the $150 one to Best Buy). Hoping the dock was the issue since if the dock and tablet can not behave together, I will return them and not dwell on it anymore.
Hoping the drain is gone so can keep Having the sd card, micro sd and 32gb internal solves all my gaming and media needs, but need the batteries to not bleed out when should be asleep (not practical to travel with- as is).
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Aftera few full cycles i notice battery depletion much slower also I keep the tablet in balance and performance when gaming things like nova 3 and tegra stuff etc. And around 25-30% brightness is more than enough indoor . My battery last me all day on 1 charge including the dock wich it charges arund 60-65% extra battery. This are just estimates through my experience with it not concrete data.
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I have 40 more days to return the tablet with Best Buy, so want to see what the issue may be and avoid resinstalling everything and setting up if can avoid it.
I really like the tablet and also that it is not clocked higher (better for heat and battery). It plays N64, PSX and MAME Reloaded fine. Ditto for Flash and hidef video content. Touch response is as good as my iPad 3 and former Toshiba Excite.
Also, for $350 the tablet is REALLY nice. Not wanting to paying much more, since already have a 64gb iPad 3 (2X the cost of the Asus). I mainly use Android tabs for Flash sites that do not work on the iPad (Amazon Prime is example) and game emulators. Heck, even books and comics look sweet on the 300
Along with the dock, the 300 makes a GREAT mini-system for games and media
Besides, I am not a fan of 1920X1200 displays being pushed by the Tegra 3 and no gpu modification. The chips sweet spot is 1280X800. My iPad 3 rocks with hi res but has a bigger gpu to support it.
Update: Even with the new dock the batteries are sucking dry. 20% gone in a little over an hour. It is like the display is on, based on the drain.
Will test tonight with just tablet, since same result with two docks.
I hate to ask this because it's seems so obvious & condescending - but what have you installed? Did you try doing a factory reset? I've had 5 android phones and few times I've loaded some obscure piece of software that killed the battery. I've even loaded ROMs that sucked the battery down with no mods.
I ask because I just got my TF300 yesterday and played with it all night without charging it. I did the 4.0.30 OTA update as soon as it booted up. I let the keyboard completely die and left the tablet (undocked) this morning with 56% on it. I didn't put either on the charger because I want to see roughly how long it will run without doing so. I'm hoping I have no problems such as yours, but I'm watching this thread closely.
Ok, so you know what my usage is - Like I said, I left this morning (6:30) with the keyboard dock battery dead & the tablet battery at 56%. I got home this evening (5:00) and the tablet was at 53%.
Luckily I'm not seeing the problem you are (though I haven't tried to charge the keyboard yet), but at least you have a warranty to fall back on.
So I thought of making a thread on your experiences with the battery consumption ratio depending on use etc. My main reason of doing this is because I suspect my dock has a bad battery and I would like to see you guys experience with your tablet/dock combo.
Noticed much difference between power saving, balanced and performance mode?
Processor wise I know each has a rating of 1ghz,1.1ghz and 1.2ghz. I dont see how this would make a big impact in battery life. Now I dont know if these also regulate anything else than the cpu frequency as to make it a noticeable thing.
Whats's the ratio of your Tablet/dock charging? ( what I mean is once your tablet reaches 70% and dock kicks in to charge how much battery would it be left on the dock after tablet reaches 90% wich is point where dock stops charging..
If I leave it charging without using it my dock is left with about 55% battery.
Last night I left the tablet at 52% and the dock fully charged so I left the tablet in sleep mode and charging with the dock. when I come to check on it battery was at 90% dock at 25% . I'm curious if the scaling is alright or am I having a performance loss.
I noticed the dock discharging while it is not supplying battery to the table ( By the time my tablet reaches 70% for the dock to kick in to charge the dock has gone down to 98%).
The biggest power drain is definitely screen brightness though this IPS display seems really nice indoors no more than 20% brightness seems to be needed.
I would also like it if we could post your advice for a better battery life on these wonderful tablets to later on make a recollection of all and post them on 2nd Post
I'll try to keep up and be adding em there.
Well this is what I got in my head so far if your willing to post any other experiences or advice I would gladly appreciate it.
I'm somewhat of a complete noob, I'm here to learn and share my experience with other users.
Battery life tips.
1. If distance is not an issue use bluetooth tethering instead of wifi tethering. It consumes less battery on both devices.
2.Try using the brightness level you need not max it out like most people do.
3.If your an active user on wi-fi, turn on setting for wifi not go to sleep. Every time tablet goes to sleep mode it would be disabling and enabling Wi-fi wich in many devices this has proven to consume more battery than keeping an active connection.
This list will keep growing as more tips are posted.
This is a well timed thread, since I have been having battery issues and the tablet on its own is not the problem. For whatever reason, the dock and tablet together equals massive battery drain in sleep mode, where the tablet on its own only uses one percentage point over night. The majority of both batteries are drained if docked in sleep mode.
I charged the dock to full on its own and unplugged it and will check this evening to see status.
Tablet on own =
Tablet docked = :silly:
Well when I am not using my tablet for sleeping or working I usually just shut it down. Doesn't make sense to me to just always have it on. I'm usually away from it for long periods of time and it doesn't take long to boot up. Plus if I go to use it later in the day or a few days later I'm not looking for my charger because I fully charged it before shutting it down. I keep a laptop/computer mentality with it where if I'm not using it turn it off.
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This is a well timed thread, since I have been having battery issues and the tablet on its own is not the problem. For whatever reason, the dock and tablet together equals massive battery drain in sleep mode, where the tablet on its own only uses one percentage point over night. The majority of both batteries are drained if docked in sleep mode.
I charged the dock to full on its own and unplugged it and will check this evening to see status.
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Well as I said before on ur thread I would replace it in ur case though a corrupted firmware could cause that. On my g2x a bad Install once drained my battery like crazy so might want to try that. I think u need to unlock though
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I do not think there is any firmware in the dock itself. I think it is a pure slave device that is controlled by the tablet. The tablet on own does not have a drain issue, but when docked they do together.
On my second dock now with same result.
The tablet and dock together ironically seems to have the same battery life in sleep mode as my Q2670 Lenovo 14" gaming laptop = bad I was hoping the dock and tablet combo would be just as efficient as an Android tablet on own and avoid having to cold start when using it (that seems so Windows to me).
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Well when I am not using my tablet for sleeping or working I usually just shut it down. Doesn't make sense to me to just always have it on. I'm usually away from it for long periods of time and it doesn't take long to boot up. Plus if I go to use it later in the day or a few days later I'm not looking for my charger because I fully charged it before shutting it down. I keep a laptop/computer mentality with it where if I'm not using it turn it off.
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Well in my case I am replacing a netbook.
I use it for a lot of things like Torrenting, college notebook,games, media,internet browsing etc. I give it its full use.
Asus already knows about this problems. Its due to bad software in the keyboard dock (yes there is software for it/ only Asus can access it.) Its actually B.S. the only fix is to send dock to Asus and pay shipping urself. And they'll fix and send back. Prob about a month later
Or you can use the tweeked build.prob like I did. Shuck will allow deep sleep while docked.
Deep sleep = no battory drain
Just be careful with changing build.prob
read 5 times fully can't go wrong lol
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Asus already knows about this problems. Its due to bad software in the keyboard dock (yes there is software for it/ only Asus can access it.) Its actually B.S. the only fix is to send dock to Asus and pay shipping urself. And they'll fix and send back. Prob about a month later
Or you can use the tweeked build.prob like I did. Shuck will allow deep sleep while docked.
Deep sleep = no battory drain
Just be careful with changing build.prob
read 5 times fully can't go wrong lol
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Are there docks that do not have the problem that can be identified? This seems a silly miss by Asus.
Both docks I got from two retailers have the issue.
Also, do you need root? Any guide to fixing and links documenting the problem are appreciated.
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Are there docks that do not have the problem that can be identified? This seems a silly miss by Asus.
Both docks I got from two retailers have the issue.
Also, do you need root? Any guide to fixing and links documenting the problem are appreciated.
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Ive also tryed returning dock for a new one. No luck
I'm not sure but I think the docks only work as suppossed to on. 17 firmware. That's my best guess. Just look under development section. Only post by seanzscreams can't miss it for tweaked build prop.
Believe u need root. Or process alot easier if you have it. Just be careful if you don't follow instructions exactly can brick. But if you do everything which isn't much and not hard at all even for a noob
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Ive also tryed returning dock for a new one. No luck
I'm not sure but I think the docks only work as suppossed to on. 17 firmware. That's my best guess. Just look under development section. Only post by seanzscreams can't miss it for tweaked build prop.
Believe u need root. Or process alot easier if you have it. Just be careful if you don't follow instructions exactly can brick. But if you do everything which isn't much and not hard at all even for a noob
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My dock seems too be working just fine and if this where such a common problem it would be everywhere.... im half sure the problem is ur guys tablet as it seems tablet controls functions on dock...
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Separated, my tablet consumes 1% in ten hours and the dock about the same when in sleep mode. When together over the same time, they collectively drain almost 70%. The dock is dead and the tablet with the rest.
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Separated, my tablet consumes 1% in ten hours and the dock about the same when in sleep mode. When together over the same time, they collectively drain almost 70%. The dock is dead and the tablet with the rest.
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Stop chasing cats replace the damn thing already lol
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Rushless is right... I also see more drain now with new firmware, when the tablet is docked.... Seems like a bug
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deathskater said:
Stop chasing cats replace the damn thing already lol
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No kitties here. As stated, they both work fine on their own and have had two docks. Testing another 300 yielded the same result.
The problem is the two pieces together. I think the sleep mode is borked when docked and bleeding power at a non user level.
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No kitties here. As stated, they both work fine on their own and have had two docks. Testing another 300 yielded the same result.
The problem is the two pieces together. I think the sleep mode is borked when docked and bleeding power at a non user level.
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Well i dont see this issue anywhere else seems like ur cursed or something
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So... back to battery saving tips.
I get scary long battery life by just reducing screen brightness. Would like to mess with build.prop but haven't yet. I know there is replace n go's out there but I want to find out which settings do what specifically. Still looking for more information on the subject.
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So... back to battery saving tips.
I get scary long battery life by just reducing screen brightness. Would like to mess with build.prop but haven't yet. I know there is replace n go's out there but I want to find out which settings do what specifically. Still looking for more information on the subject.
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I give this about 8-9 hours daily on 1 charge of tab\ dock.
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My battery life:
Docked and using fairly heavy- about ten hours
Docked and in sleep mode- Both batteries dead in 14 hours
Undocked and using fairly heavy about seven hours
Undocked for over 12 hours tablet = 98% Another time was 99%
Undocked, the dock went 24 hours = "100"%
Ironically, my problem is with the device docked in sleep mode. Two docks, two tablets- same issue. No info showing an app or media task causing it, so lower level bios issue. Both tabs newest firmware, no clue what the docks are/were. Have one each now.
Those having problems, check "Settings/Asus Customised Setting/Mobile Dock Battery Saving Mode"
Enable it and see if it matters
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Very Nice
It's a very nice handset. The only things I have against this phone is the stupid power and fingerprint separate buttons.
I know why this has been done but it still sucks.
I've upgraded from a Z5 Compact so i was surprised that it felt about the same weight in your hand. The width is about the same too so holding in your hend is comfortable.
It's going to stick out of the pocket though and I can't get the 'free' headphones until the promotion week.
The only thing I need to work out is the side sense thing as I haven't had a replacement handset for almost 5 years.. Migrating my setup from one handset to the other was ok but as a different android version the links where there but no apps.
Oh and the cameras are pretty cool. The whole 3d scanning thing is great as per previous handsets with this feature which I wasn't expecting on this handset and the Dolby atmos I've been using on my PC which does improve the listening experience when wearing headphones. The vibrating sound thing to me sounds like a battery waster. It's only day one for me but I'll keep this post updated as I go.
Day three and the battery life thing has been an issue. Just be sure you don't mind only getting a day (Litterelly 24 hours with a full charge) as with standard use and I haven't been playing games only using the camera so be prepared. You have to remember to kill off all apps before bed time as I discovered the battery went from %50 to ~%20 over night when I didn't do this. There are definetly some battery tweaks that need to be done here to extend the life. The smart charge thing is an assumption that you'll always be able to charge the phone.
That is a big screen and is using most of the battery. You're only option here is to reduce the brightness. The adaptive brightness seems to always return to 50% even though I've set it lower in the evening. If you could calibrate this to not go above a brightness during times then this would save some battery.
The screen is the best feature of viwing media on the phone IMO. You can finally see the whole picture and not waste screen space. The three cameras are awesome and the Pro video app is a great touch to these.
Oh one last thing.. There is no USB to USBc connector (PC to phone) You get a Female to Female USB Charging cable. If you're coming from Micro usb then this is unexpected.
Ok So It's the new year Jan (Half way through) and I have only just nudged over half my phones storage and that includes my family christmas vids which I haven't yet parked off onto the NAS. I really don't feel the need for expanding the storage of this phone and probably won't unless I start recording in 4K all the time. The pro video recorder doesn't get used as often as I'd like as you have to calibrate it before use for the lighting conditions so for quick vids the camera button is linked to the main camera app still. I got a usbc to hdmi box (ZasLuke) so I can plug this into the TV directly as the video quality is great. The problem (at the moment) is that you have the aspect ratio issue which you can use zoom for but until this new aspect ratio is used for TVs it seems a little weird.
I got the Android 10 update and as I'm no longer in the ROM dev game I don't have much interest in updates unless they can make my battery last longer. The battery will last over a day or two at a push but I rarly let the charge go below 15% I only reboot the phone when I'm trying to stream and I get really bad buffering issues on Amazon.
The "free" headphones get used every day for about an hour to an hour and a half and go back in their charging pod when not in use which has also had a couple of firmware updates to provide Alexa support now the range is surprisingly good too. When I come to use them again they are fully charged again. I don't charge the headphones for about a week which is great.
Oh and it has officially been dropped by accident on the corner but the protective case did exactly what I wanted it to and saved me from a fate worse than calling the insurance. Still shiny and unblemished.