So I thought of making a thread on your experiences with the battery consumption ratio depending on use etc. My main reason of doing this is because I suspect my dock has a bad battery and I would like to see you guys experience with your tablet/dock combo.
Noticed much difference between power saving, balanced and performance mode?
Processor wise I know each has a rating of 1ghz,1.1ghz and 1.2ghz. I dont see how this would make a big impact in battery life. Now I dont know if these also regulate anything else than the cpu frequency as to make it a noticeable thing.
Whats's the ratio of your Tablet/dock charging? ( what I mean is once your tablet reaches 70% and dock kicks in to charge how much battery would it be left on the dock after tablet reaches 90% wich is point where dock stops charging..
If I leave it charging without using it my dock is left with about 55% battery.
Last night I left the tablet at 52% and the dock fully charged so I left the tablet in sleep mode and charging with the dock. when I come to check on it battery was at 90% dock at 25% . I'm curious if the scaling is alright or am I having a performance loss.
I noticed the dock discharging while it is not supplying battery to the table ( By the time my tablet reaches 70% for the dock to kick in to charge the dock has gone down to 98%).
The biggest power drain is definitely screen brightness though this IPS display seems really nice indoors no more than 20% brightness seems to be needed.
I would also like it if we could post your advice for a better battery life on these wonderful tablets to later on make a recollection of all and post them on 2nd Post
I'll try to keep up and be adding em there.
Well this is what I got in my head so far if your willing to post any other experiences or advice I would gladly appreciate it.
I'm somewhat of a complete noob, I'm here to learn and share my experience with other users.
Battery life tips.
1. If distance is not an issue use bluetooth tethering instead of wifi tethering. It consumes less battery on both devices.
2.Try using the brightness level you need not max it out like most people do.
3.If your an active user on wi-fi, turn on setting for wifi not go to sleep. Every time tablet goes to sleep mode it would be disabling and enabling Wi-fi wich in many devices this has proven to consume more battery than keeping an active connection.
This list will keep growing as more tips are posted.
This is a well timed thread, since I have been having battery issues and the tablet on its own is not the problem. For whatever reason, the dock and tablet together equals massive battery drain in sleep mode, where the tablet on its own only uses one percentage point over night. The majority of both batteries are drained if docked in sleep mode.
I charged the dock to full on its own and unplugged it and will check this evening to see status.
Tablet on own =
Tablet docked = :silly:
Well when I am not using my tablet for sleeping or working I usually just shut it down. Doesn't make sense to me to just always have it on. I'm usually away from it for long periods of time and it doesn't take long to boot up. Plus if I go to use it later in the day or a few days later I'm not looking for my charger because I fully charged it before shutting it down. I keep a laptop/computer mentality with it where if I'm not using it turn it off.
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This is a well timed thread, since I have been having battery issues and the tablet on its own is not the problem. For whatever reason, the dock and tablet together equals massive battery drain in sleep mode, where the tablet on its own only uses one percentage point over night. The majority of both batteries are drained if docked in sleep mode.
I charged the dock to full on its own and unplugged it and will check this evening to see status.
Tablet on own =
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Well as I said before on ur thread I would replace it in ur case though a corrupted firmware could cause that. On my g2x a bad Install once drained my battery like crazy so might want to try that. I think u need to unlock though
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I do not think there is any firmware in the dock itself. I think it is a pure slave device that is controlled by the tablet. The tablet on own does not have a drain issue, but when docked they do together.
On my second dock now with same result.
The tablet and dock together ironically seems to have the same battery life in sleep mode as my Q2670 Lenovo 14" gaming laptop = bad I was hoping the dock and tablet combo would be just as efficient as an Android tablet on own and avoid having to cold start when using it (that seems so Windows to me).
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Well when I am not using my tablet for sleeping or working I usually just shut it down. Doesn't make sense to me to just always have it on. I'm usually away from it for long periods of time and it doesn't take long to boot up. Plus if I go to use it later in the day or a few days later I'm not looking for my charger because I fully charged it before shutting it down. I keep a laptop/computer mentality with it where if I'm not using it turn it off.
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Well in my case I am replacing a netbook.
I use it for a lot of things like Torrenting, college notebook,games, media,internet browsing etc. I give it its full use.
Asus already knows about this problems. Its due to bad software in the keyboard dock (yes there is software for it/ only Asus can access it.) Its actually B.S. the only fix is to send dock to Asus and pay shipping urself. And they'll fix and send back. Prob about a month later
Or you can use the tweeked build.prob like I did. Shuck will allow deep sleep while docked.
Deep sleep = no battory drain
Just be careful with changing build.prob
read 5 times fully can't go wrong lol
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Asus already knows about this problems. Its due to bad software in the keyboard dock (yes there is software for it/ only Asus can access it.) Its actually B.S. the only fix is to send dock to Asus and pay shipping urself. And they'll fix and send back. Prob about a month later
Or you can use the tweeked build.prob like I did. Shuck will allow deep sleep while docked.
Deep sleep = no battory drain
Just be careful with changing build.prob
read 5 times fully can't go wrong lol
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Are there docks that do not have the problem that can be identified? This seems a silly miss by Asus.
Both docks I got from two retailers have the issue.
Also, do you need root? Any guide to fixing and links documenting the problem are appreciated.
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Are there docks that do not have the problem that can be identified? This seems a silly miss by Asus.
Both docks I got from two retailers have the issue.
Also, do you need root? Any guide to fixing and links documenting the problem are appreciated.
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Ive also tryed returning dock for a new one. No luck
I'm not sure but I think the docks only work as suppossed to on. 17 firmware. That's my best guess. Just look under development section. Only post by seanzscreams can't miss it for tweaked build prop.
Believe u need root. Or process alot easier if you have it. Just be careful if you don't follow instructions exactly can brick. But if you do everything which isn't much and not hard at all even for a noob
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Ive also tryed returning dock for a new one. No luck
I'm not sure but I think the docks only work as suppossed to on. 17 firmware. That's my best guess. Just look under development section. Only post by seanzscreams can't miss it for tweaked build prop.
Believe u need root. Or process alot easier if you have it. Just be careful if you don't follow instructions exactly can brick. But if you do everything which isn't much and not hard at all even for a noob
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My dock seems too be working just fine and if this where such a common problem it would be everywhere.... im half sure the problem is ur guys tablet as it seems tablet controls functions on dock...
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Separated, my tablet consumes 1% in ten hours and the dock about the same when in sleep mode. When together over the same time, they collectively drain almost 70%. The dock is dead and the tablet with the rest.
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Separated, my tablet consumes 1% in ten hours and the dock about the same when in sleep mode. When together over the same time, they collectively drain almost 70%. The dock is dead and the tablet with the rest.
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Stop chasing cats replace the damn thing already lol
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Rushless is right... I also see more drain now with new firmware, when the tablet is docked.... Seems like a bug
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deathskater said:
Stop chasing cats replace the damn thing already lol
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No kitties here. As stated, they both work fine on their own and have had two docks. Testing another 300 yielded the same result.
The problem is the two pieces together. I think the sleep mode is borked when docked and bleeding power at a non user level.
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No kitties here. As stated, they both work fine on their own and have had two docks. Testing another 300 yielded the same result.
The problem is the two pieces together. I think the sleep mode is borked when docked and bleeding power at a non user level.
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Well i dont see this issue anywhere else seems like ur cursed or something
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So... back to battery saving tips.
I get scary long battery life by just reducing screen brightness. Would like to mess with build.prop but haven't yet. I know there is replace n go's out there but I want to find out which settings do what specifically. Still looking for more information on the subject.
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So... back to battery saving tips.
I get scary long battery life by just reducing screen brightness. Would like to mess with build.prop but haven't yet. I know there is replace n go's out there but I want to find out which settings do what specifically. Still looking for more information on the subject.
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I give this about 8-9 hours daily on 1 charge of tab\ dock.
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My battery life:
Docked and using fairly heavy- about ten hours
Docked and in sleep mode- Both batteries dead in 14 hours
Undocked and using fairly heavy about seven hours
Undocked for over 12 hours tablet = 98% Another time was 99%
Undocked, the dock went 24 hours = "100"%
Ironically, my problem is with the device docked in sleep mode. Two docks, two tablets- same issue. No info showing an app or media task causing it, so lower level bios issue. Both tabs newest firmware, no clue what the docks are/were. Have one each now.
Those having problems, check "Settings/Asus Customised Setting/Mobile Dock Battery Saving Mode"
Enable it and see if it matters
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I was worried about getting the dock because of all of the drainage issues reported but i finally caved in and got one 4 days ago from amazon(direct for $149). Charged it up on Sunday and I've gone 2.5 days on standby (wifi enabled) with ~2 hours of active use and i still have 72 percent battery on the dock and 100 percent on the tablet. AMAZING! no custom kernal just stock rooted. Anyone else seeing this with a newer dock?
Any chance you'd read the SN off the front? so the rest can compare?
Same here. Though I have wifi disabled when screen is off.
Very interesting! Does Asus not want to admit it was a hardware issue and not a software issue?
Please let me know what is the model on the dock. We need to compare this to ours, if this is the case I can return mine and change it to one of this by Tomorrow... If only the new tablet models wouldn't come with the regular problems so we could return them... Oh one can only hope...
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Fixter said:
Please let me know what is the model on the dock. We need to compare this to ours, if this is the case I can return mine and change it to one of this by Tomorrow... If only the new tablet models wouldn't come with the regular problems so we could return them... Oh one can only hope...
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Here's the info from the box:
P/N - 0K06DK10060Y
EP101(TF101) - 1B dock M/33/US
S/N B60KAS...
That is the same dock that I have, not that I have been having issues with it. But I needed to check.
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That is the same dock that I have, not that I have been having issues with it. But I needed to check.
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I think you need to look at the serial number instead. Mine is B50KAS... his is B60KAS.... Mine does lose charge when I leave it over night, but I think it's because of wifi turned on. I can see my tablet on the router's page even when it's in standby and it shows level of signal.
Can you confirm that it also does not loose a charge when off/disconnected? If so, Im going to RMA mine with newegg, Im tired of loosing 30%+ when it should be completely off
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Can you confirm that it also does not loose a charge when off/disconnected? If so, Im going to RMA mine with newegg, Im tired of loosing 30%+ when it should be completely off
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Sure I'll turn off/disconnect tonight and check it in the morning
What's the firmware on your dock showing as?
I've got the B60KA as well. No hard drainings like the others described in this forum. Yesterday, 4pm @ 100%. now (8am) i've got 87% (wifi enabled all the time)
3.1 Stock HC, MobileDock Version: EP101-0209.
I got the dock from Amazon Germany at saturday (25th June)
Just chiming in, my dock is a B50.... serial and drains 5%/hr in standby and 2%/hr when the TF is off. 2 weeks left on my return window, so I'm tracking this thread
i have a b60k and my dock killed my tablet the other day when i left it on.
i'm pretty sure it has to do with wifi settings, since the transformer thinks it's charging when it's connected to the dock. i'll change it to turn wifi off when asleep tonight and see where it's at when i wake up.
B50 - heavy draining on standby and shut down
B40 also kinda drainy
B50 No drain
B50 same drain on standby with wifi and powered off, approx 2%/hour
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Sure I'll turn off/disconnect tonight and check it in the morning
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UPDATE 0 percent drain overnight!!! Dock firmware is EP101-0209. I'm testing wifi on vs off today. Based on the feedback from this thread and the other relating to dock drain its starting to look for sure like it was a hardware problem that they've fixed in the most recent units that are shipping.
There appears to be two issues.
1. The TF can not distinguish between the dock charging it and being plugged into the AC adapter, and therefore keeps the wifi alive when docked, but off.
2. The battery management on the TF and dock is flawed in that it will continue to power the device until the battery drains completely. This does permanent damage, It should be disconnecting the battery at a level that will not prevent it from being charged using normal methods.
Just got my dock today and all I have to say is, wow. This is one helluva sweet device now. The functionality of both touch screen and keyboard rock!
I love the extra expansion, it's crazy how how much extra you get with the dock. I can now have the 16g onboard + 16gig micro sd plugged into tablet and 16g Sd plugged into dock. That's one helluva lot of storage for a tablet and for the price, it's outstanding. Add the two USB connections and it rules. Looks damn good too.
Great job Asus. Love my xformer
Ya it'd own even more if they fix the 4% per hour battery drain on the dock when the tablet is docked and it's sleeping.
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Ya it'd own even more if they fix the 4% per hour battery drain on the dock when the tablet is docked and it's sleeping.
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Man, it never ceases to amaze me how many people just want to whinge on this forum. Just plain amazing - now go back to the dock-battery thread.
Love my dock too - use the tab about 6 hours a day, charge the tablet every or every second day, but it is fantastic when out and about. Last Sunday was out and about without access to Internet or computers for 12 hours - but my trusty TF brought me season 3 of "The Big Band Theory" to keep me entertained!
Maybe yours is an early version or defective, mine doesn't drain like that. I've had no charging issues. The keyboard will always charge the Transformer unless it is fully charged and use the keyboard battery first, if the Transformer is using WiFi or GPS it will drain the keyboard.
absolutely agree with OP. Fantastic device, even if it does have a few quirks. I wish the root development scene was moving a little further, cause there is alot of potential for this thing!
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darkonex said:
Ya it'd own even more if they fix the 4% per hour battery drain on the dock when the tablet is docked and it's sleeping.
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Actually, I don't think that'll be an issue. I have the newer dock model (B60KAS) and from what I've read/seen there is no drain.
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brandon... said:
absolutely agree with OP. Fantastic device, even if it does have a few quirks. I wish the root development scene was moving a little further, cause there is alot of potential for this thing!
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I'm starting to wish I were an affiliate, I've sold three people on them and they're all very pleased.
Me and my eee pad plus dock have now, reached an understanding, it is a truly amazing device when coupled with the dock, as an avid fan of android from launch and the owner of an original I pad, I have now realised that all my gripes are based on comparison with the I pad. OK it does have a few little annoyances, but on the whole after a month of use, this thing seems to be getting better by the day. I think Asus are bang on the money with the TF. The screen is superb and build quality better than most high end laptops. I agree with earlier comments about the negatives played against the TF being over the top, I myself was of the original wingers. But everything it does that works OK, it does brilliantly, and im sure the rest will follow.
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Actually, I don't think that'll be an issue. I have the newer dock model (B60KAS) and from what I've read/seen there is no drain.
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So do you think it is hardware related? Would be a bummer, I still hope this is fixable with a firmware upgrade for the dock
Ordered my dock yesterday, will hopefully get it tomorrow.
Really looking forward to it after reading this thread
Yes, dock is really great.
I charge my TF once a day (during the night) and could work a whole day of meetings, mail replying and browsing without to be worried of battery lack.
However, I think the battery time could be better (perhaps, Prime 1.5 combined with 1.5 Ghz kernel is the cause), seems to be better when I was with stock system. The Dock also provide a very convenient way to type texts, etc... without transporting my portable PC.
A very good investment (even somes think it's not really necessary) on my side.
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You are easily impressed. LOL!!!
It is a neat little device....but there will always be something newer....but not necessarily better.
I do however, love the expansion options made available to us with the dock.
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So do you think it is hardware related? Would be a bummer, I still hope this is fixable with a firmware upgrade for the dock
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Not sure, I just finished reading further and I guess some people on even the same model as mine have the issue. I'll keep an eye on things and see how it goes. Not sure if it'll be an issue or not, I will update later.
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Digiguest said:
You are easily impressed. LOL!!!
It is a neat little device....but there will always be something newer....but not necessarily better.
I do however, love the expansion options made available to us with the dock.
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After having owned an iPad, yes, I'm easily impressed by devices that don't suck.
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So do you think it is hardware related? Would be a bummer, I still hope this is fixable with a firmware upgrade for the dock
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I own a b50kas and have no drain, others have, nobody even knows whether it is a defective tablet or dock that causes the problem, how many tablets docks are affected ? Maybe only a few, if i would have this problem i would rma both tablet and dock.
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I was pretty sure everybody has this battery drain issue but now seeing some peeps come out of the woodwork just today claiming they don't. Now I didn't notice this battery drain issue until other users started mentioning it so then I paid closer attention to it, well that plus somebody put out a battery widget that showed you the dock level whereas before I didn't have a way to check. I have not shut my Transformer off while docked and let it sit to see if it then doesn't drain, if it doesn't then I suspect it's possible some of us including myself have some app running (maybe the dual battery widget?) that's causing it. I shall try this tonight.
I think the reason that a few don't see the draining is that they using the combo with a transformers at 100%. Because i doing it right now and i don't see the problem. So everybody with the problem should charge both to 100% and testing it.
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I think the reason that a few don't see the draining is that they using the combo with a transformers at 100%. Because i doing it right now and i don't see the problem. So everybody with the problem should charge both to 100% and testing it.
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No as I stated my tablet is always at 100% and I have this issue, I actually just leave mine docked all the time and when I put it up for example when I leave for work, or go to bed, my tablet is 100% and the dock may be anywhere from 30% to 96% and this issue happens, so it has nothing to do with not having it at 100% when you dock it.
I wonder, does everybody here use a dual battery widget? I've always wondered if maybe the widget itself is the cause, liek it' spinging the dock for battery level all the time. Would be interesting to see if we say charge everything up to 100%, uninstall the battery widget and reboot just to ensure it's gone and not left running, then let it sit idle and reinstall it later and recheck. I may do this tonight/tomorrow and see.
I agree. I ordered the dock with mine when I got it and haven't looked back. I use it with the dock probably 90% of the time. Its a good mix of function and form for my use. This device pretty much replaced a laptop/netbook/tablet for me. Combined with a WiFi hotspot from my Inspire 4G this thing rocks.
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Just got the evo3d and wish there was something like this for it,
Last night after i used my dock, I charged both my dock and tab together. This morning, my tab was fully charged and my dock is still blinking orange. I checked the dual battery widget and it had this to say:
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I had the same issue, updated to ICS, and was trying to see if battery drain by leaving the dock and pad together was fixed, and it does seem better, only loose about 5%/day when totally off. Anyways I was charging them, and the same thing happened to me, tab was totally charged and dock was 0%. To get it charging, I had to undock and just charge the dock by itself. It took a good 2-3 hours but it started charging. I have read of this issue before, it seems you do not ever want your dock to get to 0%. Some people have also had success by using just the usb on a pc to the dock and trickle charge it. Anyways hope this helps and let us know if you get your dock back.
I can usually have this problem all I have to do is disconnect the doc and plug it back in
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Last night after i used my dock, I charged both my dock and tab together. This morning, my tab was fully charged and my dock is still blinking orange. I checked the dual battery widget and it had this to say:
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Had you and about 5,000 others who have asked this same question recently read the forum, you would know that this is a widespread issue with the update to ICS, and that we all have to either restore to a previous rom that wasn't causing this issue, or grin and bear it, and wait for an update from asus. Reading is your friend...
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cavsoldier19d said:
Had you and about 5,000 others who have asked this same question recently read the forum, you would know that this is a widespread issue with the update to ICS, and that we all have to either restore to a previous rom that wasn't causing this issue, or grin and bear it, and wait for an update from asus. Reading is your friend...
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If reading is your friend, why isn't anybody here interested in the extremly easy way to solve the problem, which I posted a few threads below?
350 clicks and nobody wants to say if this worked for him?
In the german forum where I first posted it, there is already response. It works, there are no more sudden restarts, no more battery drain. It is just a flag, which isn't set correctly by ASUS and can be solved with 2 single clicks, so why wait for some huge update?... strange world
Edit: I'm sorry, if I misunderstood something. Maybe, the thread opener has some special problem with a dock which doesn't charge at all, but when I read "5000 others" I'm very sure, these "5000" have the problem, which I have had (extremely fast and full battery drain and not a dock which doesn't charge at all, so I didn't want to hijack this thread though think my hint is helpful...
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If reading is your friend, why isn't anybody here interested in the extremly easy way to solve the problem, which I posted a few threads below?
350 clicks and nobody wants to say if this worked for him?
In the german forum where I first posted it, there is already response. It works, there are no more sudden restarts, no more battery drain. It is just a flag, which isn't set correctly by ASUS and can be solved with 2 single clicks, so why wait for some huge update?... strange world
Edit: I'm sorry, if I misunderstood something. Maybe, the thread opener has some special problem with a dock which doesn't charge at all, but when I read "5000 others" I'm very sure, these "5000" have the problem, which I have had (extremely fast and full battery drain and not a dock which doesn't charge at all, so I didn't want to hijack this thread though think my hint is helpful...
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My guess would be, because there have been plenty of other posts claiming to have solved the problems of the ICS update and they never work.
Yep, I know, but all the other "solutions" guess the wlan, gps, etc. policy to cause the drain. It is the display, not the radio. The screen gets black, but isn't of. So if you move your mouse, it turns on again (no deep sleep) and all the time it sucks battery.
I now have the great battery life which I have bought my transformer for, and the few people who tried it, have similar good results. So why not give this a try?
If there aren't unexpected differences in german devices to international ones, you should have the same effect, I expect.
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Yep, I know, but all the other "solutions" guess the wlan, gps, etc. policy to cause the drain. It is the display, not the radio. The screen gets black, but isn't of. So if you move your mouse, it turns on again (no deep sleep) and all the time it sucks battery.
I now have the great battery life which I have bought my transformer for, and the few people who tried it, have similar good results. So why not give this a try?
If there aren't unexpected differences in german devices to international ones, you should have the same effect, I expect.
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Listen to the man! I just did this Method from your other thread and for the first time ever I'm seeing my tf101 go into deep sleep since the ICS upgrade!
Turn on " keep awake " then turn off. Duh Asus! You messed up lol
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I did a little experiment with battery life, particularly in standby mode.
Wifi is on, and the weather/clock widget updates every 2 or 4 hours.
After 24 hours not using it at all, battery life went down to about 94%.
On an ipad2, after 24 hours, it is at 99%.
On, ipad2, most notifications if not all are turned off. Could this be the reason for the discrepancy? Any ideas to make it better? Should I have weather update 1 every 24 hours and update manually as needed?
I notice I cannot set the update interval for mail? Is it because it is push and not pull?
Id be greatful with that kind of battery life. Honestly.
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KindaUndisputed said:
Id be greatful with that kind of battery life. Honestly.
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really? standby time is important to me. I go through spurts of not using the tablet but I don't want to have to keep the tablet plugged in.Turning it off means I have to wait for boot up to use it real quickly.
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really? standby time is important to me. I go through spurts of not using the tablet but I don't want to have to keep the tablet plugged in.Turning it off means I have to wait for boot up to use it real quickly.
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I have it turn my wifi off while screen off and with build.prop tweaks I get 7 days b4 I have to charge... Or... Get juice defender in market and it will handle the wifi and syncing to give you much greater battery life.
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It lost 6% in 24 hours. That means it will take over 16 days to drain. I doubt many users will see this as a problem.
I guess you could uninstall any widgets you have and keep it in power saving mode. Turn off wifi. Check the apps section in the settings menu and see which ones are running in the background and uninstall them.
Otherwise, buy an ipad if you want ipad specs.
I'm at 87% at 2 days and 10 hours right now. I have FW .29 and SeanZ's tweaked build.prop. I'm happy with it personally.
Personally I've been pretty thrilled with my battery life. I've never had a device before that would still be at 99% after four-five hours on standby tweaks or not - and the biggest tweak I've done is disabling weather (I've gotta save something for my phone to do).
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really? standby time is important to me. I go through spurts of not using the tablet but I don't want to have to keep the tablet plugged in.Turning it off means I have to wait for boot up to use it real quickly.
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Get the keyboard and use it like a docking station.
The tablet slips in it pretty easily.
I'm not really happy with the standby time so when I'm not around or sleeping I shut it down.
Probably shutting down WiFi is the most important battery saver. Either by hand or with an app.
edit: Except apps producing wakelocks, of cource. Better Battery Stats helps.
what is this tweaked build.prop and where do I get it? Is root required?
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what is this tweaked build.prop and where do I get it? Is root required?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1641219
+1 this. I have to say, I was a bit skeptical before I updated my build.prop file. But when I did, I noticed an immediate speed boost and much much much better batter performance.
I just posted a very positive review of the TF300 today and just got back home after being at work for ten hours. I left the dock and tablet at over 95%, but just got home to find the dock at 0% and the tablet at 46%. This is obviously awful and makes the Toshiba Excite seem great in comparison.
Settings:
MobileDock battery saving mode is on
Disconnect network during sleep is on
Set to balanced mode
Set to turn off after two minutes
I turned the tablet off before I closed to the dock and when just opened the display was off.
The only two listings are 64% for screen and 36% for idle.
Is this normal? If so, this is abnormal.
weird, i don't recall that ever happening to me... try it again, charge it to %100 and leave it on sleep mode at night and check in the morning if the problem persists. if so you may have a defective unit so return it using your warranty.
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Another thing I notice is at least in Dolphin, the browser crashes when trying to view Flash video in full screen. I have never had that happen with any tablet or phone before. Weird. Like always, set in desktop mode for user agent.
Edit: Must have been a fluke since a restart fixed it. need to charge now anyway to see if I get the drain again.
I noticed if you turn off the tablet then dock it, the tablet will turn back on. But have never noticed a battery loss that significant. So be sure to dock the tablet first then power down the tablet.
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Another thing I notice is at least in Dolphin, the browser crashes when trying to view Flash video in full screen. I have never had that happen with any tablet or phone before. Weird. Like always, set in desktop mode for user agent.
Edit: Must have been a fluke since a restart fixed it. need to charge now anyway to see if I get the drain again.
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Most browsers arent 4.0 optimized best browser i have found is boat browser its amazingly smooth and full screen flash is working
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I've had mine for over a month now. Had something similar happen one time. Best I could figure out was ICS did not properly shut down a game I had running. I assume it was just a rare random occurence.
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Another thing I notice is at least in Dolphin, the browser crashes when trying to view Flash video in full screen. I have never had that happen with any tablet or phone before. Weird. Like always, set in desktop mode for user agent.
Edit: Must have been a fluke since a restart fixed it. need to charge now anyway to see if I get the drain again.
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You should check out the new dolphin beta that just came out today, supposedly wickedly fast. It is here: http://dolphin-browser.com/2012/06/dolphin-browser-is-the-fastest-html5-mobile-browser-try-out-our-dolphin-engine-in-beta/
It did it again last night:
Made sure no apps were pushing data and turned notifications off for all apps
Restarted the device and opened no apps
Five minutes later I put the device to sleep (closed it).
The display was off
Result: This morning the dock was dead and the tablet was at 65%. This was after only six and a half hours (I usually do not sleep much).
The only activity was the display at 84% and idle at 16%. I checked a few times through the seam of where the KB and tablet are closed and the display was off for thirty minutes before went to sleep. I then had to get up a few hours later to let my dog out and the display was still off.
The last time I had problems like this was the infamous A500 problems where the display would come on, stay on and the device would die. In this case, the display is not coming on, yet the display is eating the battery and the device is warm (dock and tablet). The A500 was obvious, since the display was on.
Folks, I just want something to work correctly. My HTC View loses 5% over three days and my iPad 3 wifi loses 1%.
How can the display be off, yet the device be warm and the battery log show the display is the majority of the usage? No doubt the display was off (at least at the times I checked).
The display is the majority of the usage period. When in normal yesterday with 100% brightness the display used 99% of my battery use. That extra 1% was for the dozen or so apps I had used. The fact that the idle hit that high is a good thing but something else may be affecting it.
Have you tried disconnecting the tablet from the dock and then letting it sleep?
That is my next test, but if they can not behave together, the value of having the TF300 diminishes. I would need to keep them is need to leave seperate, since defeats the function for me.
I see the point in at least testing to see if the dock is the issue. Could be a bum unit, but also could be the dock does not like cards being left in.
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That is my next test, but if they can not behave together, the value of having the TF300 diminishes. I would need to keep them is need to leave seperate, since defeats the function for me.
I see the point in at least testing to see if the dock is the issue. Could be a bum unit, but also could be the dock does not like cards being left in.
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My tf300t works amazingly without any battery problems.. I'm a very heavy user of it. also try getting that app that monitors background/network process...forgot name if someone could help. Also the dock could be at fault since the dock automatically turns on the tf300t same as if you would charge it with the cable it turns it on while charging.
I believe the build.prop mod contains something about deep sleep that might help ya but if ur in the 30 days just replace it why bother when u might have an intermittent defective unit . problems that can happen once in a while might be a pain in the ass later on.
I do not regret choosing this tablet over everything else on the market it works great and it is replacing a laptop for me.
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I've had no problems with the battery on my tf300. It lasts all day when I use it (and because it's new I'm giving it some heavy use) and when I do need to charge it it only takes an hour or two. Maybe because you just close it something doesn't shut off. I don't own the dock.... Yet but when I do I think the extra life out of that will be awesome. On a second thought I was also wondering what would happen if you just left it on the charger overnight? I put my phone in a dock to make it my alarm clock every night with no problems. Is a tablets battery different that it wouldn't be healthy for it to be left on the charger? Or does it needs to fully drain then charge to 100%?
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I agree it is nice system so hope I figure it out. My Office Max dock should be in soon, so have to return this dock anyway. OM was $100 (sale) and BB is $150. BB matched the OM price on the tablet ($350), but the dock was not in stock at OM. Ended up ordering one online from them.
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I've had no problems with the battery on my tf300. It lasts all day when I use it (and because it's new I'm giving it some heavy use) and when I do need to charge it it only takes an hour or two. Maybe because you just close it something doesn't shut off. I don't own the dock.... Yet but when I do I think the extra life out of that will be awesome. On a second thought I was also wondering what would happen if you just left it on the charger overnight? I put my phone in a dock to make it my alarm clock every night with no problems. Is a tablets battery different that it wouldn't be healthy for it to be left on the charger? Or does it needs to fully drain then charge to 100%?
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I normally do leave it on charger but it is problematic when away from home, since uses as much battery as when on. Not to mention it can not be doing the batteries any good.
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I normally do leave it on charger but it is problematic when away from home, since uses as much battery as when on. Not to mention it can not be doing the batteries any good.
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why not just return it for another one? instead of going through so much trouble. rather be safe than sorry
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For process of elimination I tested the battery drain with the sdxc card out of the dock. This seems to help, but still have over 20% battery drain (a lot less, but still bad).
Next step is the tablet on its own and then I will test with my newer dock, since just came in from Office Max (need to return the $150 one to Best Buy). Hoping the dock was the issue since if the dock and tablet can not behave together, I will return them and not dwell on it anymore.
Hoping the drain is gone so can keep Having the sd card, micro sd and 32gb internal solves all my gaming and media needs, but need the batteries to not bleed out when should be asleep (not practical to travel with- as is).
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For process of elimination I tested the battery drain with the sdxc card out of the dock. This seems to help, but still have over 20% battery drain (a lot less, but still bad).
Next step is the tablet on its own and then I will test with my newer dock, since just came in from Office Max (need to return the $150 one to Best Buy). Hoping the dock was the issue since if the dock and tablet can not behave together, I will return them and not dwell on it anymore.
Hoping the drain is gone so can keep Having the sd card, micro sd and 32gb internal solves all my gaming and media needs, but need the batteries to not bleed out when should be asleep (not practical to travel with- as is).
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Aftera few full cycles i notice battery depletion much slower also I keep the tablet in balance and performance when gaming things like nova 3 and tegra stuff etc. And around 25-30% brightness is more than enough indoor . My battery last me all day on 1 charge including the dock wich it charges arund 60-65% extra battery. This are just estimates through my experience with it not concrete data.
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I have 40 more days to return the tablet with Best Buy, so want to see what the issue may be and avoid resinstalling everything and setting up if can avoid it.
I really like the tablet and also that it is not clocked higher (better for heat and battery). It plays N64, PSX and MAME Reloaded fine. Ditto for Flash and hidef video content. Touch response is as good as my iPad 3 and former Toshiba Excite.
Also, for $350 the tablet is REALLY nice. Not wanting to paying much more, since already have a 64gb iPad 3 (2X the cost of the Asus). I mainly use Android tabs for Flash sites that do not work on the iPad (Amazon Prime is example) and game emulators. Heck, even books and comics look sweet on the 300
Along with the dock, the 300 makes a GREAT mini-system for games and media
Besides, I am not a fan of 1920X1200 displays being pushed by the Tegra 3 and no gpu modification. The chips sweet spot is 1280X800. My iPad 3 rocks with hi res but has a bigger gpu to support it.
Update: Even with the new dock the batteries are sucking dry. 20% gone in a little over an hour. It is like the display is on, based on the drain.
Will test tonight with just tablet, since same result with two docks.
I hate to ask this because it's seems so obvious & condescending - but what have you installed? Did you try doing a factory reset? I've had 5 android phones and few times I've loaded some obscure piece of software that killed the battery. I've even loaded ROMs that sucked the battery down with no mods.
I ask because I just got my TF300 yesterday and played with it all night without charging it. I did the 4.0.30 OTA update as soon as it booted up. I let the keyboard completely die and left the tablet (undocked) this morning with 56% on it. I didn't put either on the charger because I want to see roughly how long it will run without doing so. I'm hoping I have no problems such as yours, but I'm watching this thread closely.
Ok, so you know what my usage is - Like I said, I left this morning (6:30) with the keyboard dock battery dead & the tablet battery at 56%. I got home this evening (5:00) and the tablet was at 53%.
Luckily I'm not seeing the problem you are (though I haven't tried to charge the keyboard yet), but at least you have a warranty to fall back on.