The Exynos Handles All Video - Galaxy Tab 10.1 General

For you video lovers out there, this snippet from gsmarena claims the Exynos:
"... had absolutely no trouble with any of the files we threw at it – starting with .WMV, through .AVI (DivX and XviD) and .MP4 to .MKV (H.264). Resolution wasn’t a problem either – the Samsung Galaxy S II played FullHD files. Large files of over 2GB worked as well."
Then again, we have no idea if the new Tabs will be equipped with the Exynos, so obviously don't get your hopes up... but if we get lucky, you may not have to re-encode your videos to get them to work on your tab. At least, I assume so.
www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9100_galaxy_s_ii-review-588p4.php

Oh I hope so. If not....

Man I really hope it is the Exynos at this point. Tegra 2 is a bit long in the tooth.

Yes! I will be waiting for this Exynos to come to the Galaxy Tab!
If necessary, I will import from UK or US to get it.
Because usually other markets will get different one.
Like Nexus S, only UK and US have the Super Amoled version. While here in NL, it has SLCD.

Look at the new tests where Exynos is in question:
http://www.androidauthority.com/the...amsung-galaxy-s-ii-benchmarks-revealed-12772/

Quite good. I did SunSpider test on my computer and at 1Ghz (I have dual core AMD processor) Tegra and Exynos are only 4 times slower. (at 2,5Ghz they are 10x slower, but I almost always use 1Ghz anyway to minimise fan noise)
I expected less from ARM to be honest.

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[GPU] Tegra 2 vs Exynos

The Tegra2 version is confirmed now.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/03/confirmed-tegra-2-equipped-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-is-coming/
So what do you think - which version will be better and which will you get?
I know the benchmarks so far are speaking for Tegra 2 but is this true?
Tegra 2 version will have more compatibility with other tegra 2 devices, so it's possible to get new versions of CyanogenMod quickly. Exynos is unique though, makes you feel special knowing that you're using something different.
ryude said:
Tegra 2 version will have more compatibility with other tegra 2 devices, so it's possible to get new versions of CyanogenMod quickly. Exynos is unique though, makes you feel special knowing that you're using something different.
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Makes sense.. I just wonder if Tegra 2 will be performing better than Exynos.
I've already reordered a version with Exynos but I might cancel it...
So I guess we will also need a new dev forum for the new version as ROMs wouldn't be compatible? :/
How will the average consumer know the difference when buying the hand set, will out be clearly stated on the box?
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masumali said:
How will the average consumer know the differegnce when buying the hand set, will out be clearly stated on the box?
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Probably going to be region-dependant on whether you get the exynos or tegra 2. The biggest gripe I have with the tegra 2 is that it doesn't support h264 high-profile encodes. I'll probably get the exynos version if possible.
I read Exynos is for US and UK. The rest getting Tegra 2.
Not sure how true that is though?
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Everything I read points to USA and UK getting exynos with everywhere else getting tegra 2.
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Everything I read points to USA and UK getting exynos with everywhere else getting tegra 2.
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Is that just people guessing or is there any info from Samsung ?
GT-I9100, which is the Exynos model, is the version that is mentioned on Samsungs swedish site.
So that indicates the info may be wrong.
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Is that just people guessing or is there any info from Samsung ?
GT-I9100, which is the Exynos model, is listed on Samsungs swedish site.
So that indicates the info may be wrong.
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I also preordered a I9100 in Switzerland.. so this means nothing.
I think Tegra 2 will come after all Exynos are shipped.
I dont really care what version i get. The only advantage is see is there will be more games optimized for tegra2. Thought i dont really care about that. I wont be playing those games anyway. I like casual games more, like angry birds or cut the ropes and similar games.
Btw preordered at amazon germany.
It seems that Samsung will be unable to provide enough Exynos chips for all. I also heard that they are planning to use the exynos for the new iphone 5.
Nobody knows witch one of the chipsets is the best. There are still no test results... Beacause there is no phone running exynos on the market. We have to wait to see witch one is better.
which is more power efficient? thats the biggest decider for me.
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One is called i9100 and the other i9103 .
Latest rumors say both versions might come under the same version name.
Will Tegra2 games run on Exynos?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/03/samsungs-exynos-4210-flexes-3d-gaming-muscle-at-gdc-2011-video/
Not sure whether that should make me feel impressed or not. The wait continues...
Another fun one. The peeps said they had it since August of last year. It is running a 1366x768 display, if that means anything for benchmarks.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/07/odroid-a-tablet-fits-1366-x-768-res-on-a-10-inch-screen-dual-co/
CowMix said:
which is more power efficient? thats the biggest decider for me.
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Androidandme released an article this morning on this.
One of the replies made by 'Magnet Man' read as follows:-
The Mali 400 MP wipes the floor with the GeforceULV found in the Tegra 250. It has a superior fill rate, superior sustained geometry, and tile-based rendering, meaning that it will generally perform better and require less bandwidth for scenes with frequent overdraw. Interestingly it does this at a lower clock rate!
The benchmarks displayed are weak indications of actual performance for T20 or Mali 400MP. They don’t take into account shader performance or HD targets.
From what I can see Exynos has 3 advantages over Tegra 2.
Fully pipelined NEON MPE (vs non-vector floating point unit in Tegra 2)
From early tests the ISP and vid encode/decode look better.
I think it has a dual-channel LPDDR2 memory controller too?
Tegra 2 advantages.
Flash GPU acceleration.
Honeycomb and game support.
sarge78 said:
From what I can see Exynos has 3 advantages over Tegra 2.
Fully pipelined NEON MPE (vs non-vector floating point unit in Tegra 2)
From early tests the ISP and vid encode/decode look better.
I think it has a dual-channel LPDDR2 memory controller too?
Tegra 2 advantages.
Flash GPU acceleration.
Honeycomb and game support.
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Do you have link to reliable source about the Flash GPU acceleration ?
I thought most GPU's could be used for video acceleration, is this a specific
accelerator for flash ?
Exynos could have a faster GPU if the info at the Samsung Barcelona press conference is true (5 times more powerful GPU than the previous application processor).
That will be revealed when SW/drivers are finished.
Exynos/Orion supports DDR2 and DDR3 RAM according to the blockdiagram in the link.
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/support/brochures/downloads/systemlsi/Orion.pdf

SoC in new GT 10.1

Hi,
since at this point it is unknown whatever updated 10.1 will still run on Tegra 2 or something else (Exynos 4201) I would appreciate your opinion on this matter.
What do you think will be inside?
If two versions will be available which one will you buy?
Of you hear any thing new in this subject - please post here.
Since Tegra 2 has some limitations (video playback) I personally hope it will run on Samsung's own SoC, will play all video formats and divix/xivid with DLNA and playback from SD will work beautifully.
I have an issue with Sammy using their own chip for one reason. When every other phone was running a Qualcomm chip and the Galaxy phones were using Hummingbird chips, there was some optimization in the android code that was not included for Samsung chips.
Since Honeycomb has been built around the Tegra 2 chip, I fear the same thing will happen.
Don't believe HC was built around Tegra2...hence the reason for no Dual-Core spec requirement. Hell, it's up and running on devices of all sorts as we speak.
I want Tegra games more than support for h.264 high profile video playback.
So, I want Tegra
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If you want games you should wait for a SONY tablet ;-)
Why do you assume that it will have a worse performance in games than Tegra 2?
I think that it will be better than T2 in both cases.
BTW: thera are gossips of new Moto tablet coming out around fall with T3 (QUad core Tegra) inside...
galtom said:
If you want games you should wait for a SONY tablet ;-)
Why do you assume that it will have a worse performance in games than Tegra 2?
I think that it will be better than T2 in both cases.
BTW: thera are gossips of new Moto tablet coming out around fall with T3 (QUad core Tegra) inside...
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Assuming he's talking about the PS3 and TegraZone games that require a Tegra chip. Other chips could probably play them, but think Nvidia has it so they look specifically for the Tegra chip.
Not that gaming is my main priority, but I saw all those "Tegra optimized" games on the Tegra Zone.
They are all nice games
It will be sucks if they don't perform as expected on non-Tegra tablet.
Because as I said, I could care less with that H.264 high profile. I can still "convert" them or stream (via future app ala AirPlay on iOS).
galtom said:
If you want games you should wait for a SONY tablet ;-)
Why do you assume that it will have a worse performance in games than Tegra 2?
I think that it will be better than T2 in both cases.
BTW: thera are gossips of new Moto tablet coming out around fall with T3 (QUad core Tegra) inside...
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by this summer, tegra2 will be one and half years old since announced, and tegra3 will be only half year away
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More than likely, Samsungs SoC will be nearly identical to the Ipad 2's A5 SoC, which has already shown to be several times faster in the gfx department vs a Tegra 2.
Also, the Tegra 2 is missing the NEON optimizations in most other A9 SoC's.
So I put my vote toward Samsung's SoC.
gururise said:
More than likely, Samsungs SoC will be nearly identical to the Ipad 2's A5 SoC, which has already shown to be several times faster in the gfx department vs a Tegra 2.
Also, the Tegra 2 is missing the NEON optimizations in most other A9 SoC's.
So I put my vote toward Samsung's SoC.
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But like all great hardware, it's only as good as the software it runs. I'd rather have the Tegra if it has exclusive content or specialized support from Google.
Bandage said:
Don't believe HC was built around Tegra2...hence the reason for no Dual-Core spec requirement. Hell, it's up and running on devices of all sorts as we speak.
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There were news reports that Google was going to make Tegra 2 the reference platform for Honeycomb but that never happened. Now it looks like Google is working with LG to come out with a Nexus tablet this summer so it'll be interesting to see what they are putting in that.
Personally I hope Samsung steers clear of Tegra 2 and goes with their own SoC.
Isn't LG already releasing the G-Slate? Are they gonna release another one in the summer? Thats just not a great strategy me thinks.
In sweden there is now a IT fair called Dustin Expo, and one off or bigger computer sites reported that Samsung not going to use Tegra2 like the other manufacturers.
They will use there own dual-core ( probably Exynos ) and Adeno 220.
Starts on 2min
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ggUXvZnbM8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Looking forward to hear from Samsung whats up, and what spec the 8.9" will have and some reviews on how good there skinn on HC is.
The hardware that Samsung is about to release i really like, but they sucks on software updates and improve the products thay have released. So should i get the big and heavy xoom whit updates or the light and sleek Samsung without support
There is also Asus Transformer to choose from.
bd85 said:
The hardware that Samsung is about to release i really like, but they sucks on software updates and improve the products thay have released. So should i get the big and heavy xoom whit updates or the light and sleek Samsung without support
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Besides Touchwiz, I say it depends on how you're going to use it. If I decide to get a tablet, it'll most likely be the new Galaxy Tab because (I'm going to assume here) that it'll most likely play any video and audio format I throw at it. I think that's the big difference (codecs) between the two as of now besides Touchwiz.
bd85 said:
In sweden there is now a IT fair called Dustin Expo, and one off or bigger computer sites reported that Samsung not going to use Tegra2 like the other manufacturers.
They will use there own dual-core ( probably Exynos ) and Adeno 220.
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If true that would be the best news of the current tablet season as Tegra 2 sucks BIG TIME!
I would also want to know.... how close in design is Apple A5 (the one in iPad 2) by Samsung to Exynos by Samsung
I wouldn't mind if it had their proprietary SoC as what really matters in these tablets is the GPU. It seems the T2 chipset is getting a bit long-in-the-tooth despite not being heavily utilized yet. If Samsung is pairing with the Adreno 220 then that's better than the Tegra 2.
bd85 said:
In sweden there is now a IT fair called Dustin Expo, and one off or bigger computer sites reported that Samsung not going to use Tegra2 like the other manufacturers.
They will use there own dual-core ( probably Exynos ) and Adeno 220.
Starts on 2min
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ggUXvZnbM8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Looking forward to hear from Samsung whats up, and what spec the 8.9" will have and some reviews on how good there skinn on HC is.
The hardware that Samsung is about to release i really like, but they sucks on software updates and improve the products thay have released. So should i get the big and heavy xoom whit updates or the light and sleek Samsung without support
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Why would they add an adreno 220, when a Mali-400 would be a lot better? Seems like an odd choice to me. Also that prototype is running Tegra 2(assuming it's the same device that's been shown off at other venues).
Maybe we'll see the Adreno 220s on the SGSII as well?
Wasn't the prototype just a 10.1v?
@Toss3
Presumably, the SGS2 will be equipped the dual-core Exynos clocked at 1.2GHz. I say "presumably" because, just like now, Samsung hasn't revealed the true name of the processor, only the clock speed.
Oddly enough, there will also be a Tegra 2 version of the SGS2.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/06/...ayed-until-may-o/&category=classic&postPage=1

playing 1080p (Youtube) SAMSUNG GALAXY S II vs. Optimus 2X

GALAXY S II is the best phone
F*** me, this thing is an absolute beast. Do want
It's like playing slides on 2X。。。
wow was this a fair test???
Flipping heck...Tegra 2 is shi**
someone just got owned..
Is this even a contest? Tegra 2? They better get that tegra Kal-el fast.
I have a feeling that Samsung should use this in the tab 8.9/10.1. Tegra 2 does not sound very good now.
I heard the Mali GPU is more optimised for HD video rather than 3D gaming.
Even then, I wouldn't trade my S2 for anything.
whip that 1080p Macross.
rd_nest said:
someone just got owned..
Is this even a contest? Tegra 2? They better get that tegra Kal-el fast.
I have a feeling that Samsung should use this in the tab 8.9/10.1. Tegra 2 does not sound very good now.
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Bad news, the new series of the galaxy tab line have tegra 2 not Exynos chip. It was rumored that Samsung couldn't make them in time so had to use nvidia's. We should be grateful that europe got it for our SGSII's.
P.s because of this I'm not buying a galaxy tab, and getting the ipad instead.
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dk206 said:
Bad news, the new series of the galaxy tab line have tegra 2 not Exynos chip. It was rumored that Samsung couldn't make them in time so had to use nvidia's. We should be grateful that europe got it for our SGSII's.
P.s because of this I'm not buying a galaxy tab, and getting the ipad instead.
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That's what I am hearing too. Not too happy about it. I will wait till they ramp up the production and use it in the Tab. 8.9 sounds just about perfect for me. Or maybe I will wait till Sammy comes out with their next gen Mail-604 which should be around the corner. It's said Sammy was the first to get the license and started working on it in 2010 itself. By that time I am sure honeycomb/ice cream would have been optimized and a good collection of apps to play with.
Android OS versions are different ?
Think the sgs2 1gb ram plays a factor in 1080 playback over the optimus 512mb
I can't wait to get this phone
The Tegra Chip and Mali have about the same performance.
We just have hardware acceleration enabled in the galaxy S 2 browser rendering and in the touchwizz 4.0 home.
Can somebody try launcherpro with animated wallpaper and touchwizz with animated wallpaper, and see if there is jerkyness with the touchwizz home ?
if you read up on a phone's specs before you buy it then this should be no suprise to you
The chipset is far superior to that of tegra specifically at video decoding / playback etc, you only need to view the complaints and grumblings on the tablet forums to know tegra is feeling to meet expectations. This is why I plumped for the S2 over the 2x.
They forgot to mention that the 2x has a special Comic mode for youtube vids, and that it was activated.

Samsung Galaxy S2 TEGRA

Will you be selling your SGS2 for this?
http://pocketnow.com/android/samsung-galaxy-s2-gt-i9103-with-tegra-2-at-fcc
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THUDUK said:
Will you be selling your SGS2 for this?
http://pocketnow.com/android/samsung-galaxy-s2-gt-i9103-with-tegra-2-at-fcc
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Nope
Exynos > Tegra, especially with CF 3D.
Why would i sell a Cortex A9 CPU equipped device for a much slower Cortex A8 CPU equipped device?
The ONLY thing the Tegra unit has that the Exynos doesn't is official support for the Tegra zone games, games i dont play (and can be played with CFs driver anyway). In every other way the Exynos unit beats the Tegra one.
rovex said:
Why would i sell a Cortex A9 CPU equipped device for a much slower Cortex A8 CPU equipped device?
The ONLY thing the Tegra unit has that the Exynos doesn't is official support for the Tegra zone games, games i dont play (and can be played with CFs driver anyway). In every other way the Exynos unit beats the Tegra one.
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Tegra 2 is also a Cortex A9 architecture, but it has slower memory and no NEON instructions etc, so it is not as good as Exynos.
Also, I believe that Exynos can decode H.264 high profile in hardware unlike the Tegra2
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Nope
Exynos > Tegra, especially with CF 3D.
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This. The only reason I was hesitant about buying the S2 was the gaming side but with CF and other games now being released sans Tegra2 compatibility I'm glad I made the jump
So if it's the GT-I9103, it must be the one gsmarena promoted as the Samsung Galaxy Z which can't be compared to SII specs wise.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9103_galaxy_z-3967.php
I think they're two different phones for different markets. The Tegra SGS2 is a carrier phone so I'm guessing Samsung won't distribute it themselves. Samsung said all along they wouldn't have enough Exynos chips for worldwide distribution and initial talk was that Tegra would be sent to developing countries along with a S-LCD screen. Interesting that they chose to send it to the U.S. It's cheaper and the quantities the U.S. needs probably would have been more than Exynos production could keep up with. Or maybe AT&T was looking for a bargain. The Atrix and O2X/G2X are on Tegra so it'll be interesting to see how Samsung's use of it performs. It's been pretty disappointing (except for gaming) so far.
i9103 is the Galaxy Z.
All the news sources are idiots and keep parroting each other with the wrong info.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9103_galaxy_z-review-614.php
I'm waiting for the 32GB version. I hope it's not going to be tegra. Does anybody know if it is the 32GB?
downwiththebanksters said:
I'm waiting for the 32GB version. I hope it's not going to be tegra. Does anybody know if it is the 32GB?
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Afaik, there will not be 32gb version..
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Absolutely not...
Why change my beautyfull SAMO-LED screen for a lousy S-LCD, when i have waited so long for that screen. The Nexus S got the S-lcd in our area, and i was very disappointed - the only solution with AMOLED was the aging Galaxy S. But then the SGS2 came out, and by no means i'm going to swap it for an S-lcd - Tegra or not... (preferrably NOT - with thought on Nvidia's strategy)
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Nope
Exynos > Tegra, especially with CF 3D.
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This GS2 with Tegra 2 already ran a ~4000 quadrant stock.
Again with the Quadrant scores which dont translate to real life usage
TEGRA is it a stable version?

Samsung Galaxy Note III LTE = SnapDragon 800

we've see in the news the South Korea only GS4 with the Snapdragon 800 beast
I hope Samsung release a 800 powered Samsung Galaxy Note III LTE in September :good:
Who else :highfive:
It's surely gonna be in the note 3.
unless there's a better one at that time
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Has Note series ever used SDragon?
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Has Note series ever used SDragon?
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nope, but samsungs own 8 core (4x A15 4 4x A7) as used in the S4 i9500 does not have LTE, but the snapdragon S4 I9505 version does
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Has Note series ever used SDragon?
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cirian75 said:
nope, but samsungs own 8 core (4x A15 4 4x A7) as used in the S4 i9500 does not have LTE, but the snapdragon S4 I9505 version does
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That's not entirely true, AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717 (not Internationa N7000) used a SnapDragon as described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1493
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That's not entirely true, AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717 (not Internationa N7000) used a SnapDragon as described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1493
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ok, there has been a snapdragon dual core note.
The 3 kings of CPU the hill right now are
the LTE quad core Snapdragon's
600 as used in the LTE S4 i9505 and HTC one
800 beast as used in the South Korea only S4
and the
Non LTE Exynos 5 Octa 5410 8 core
I hope Samsung will put the 800 in the Note 3
what's wrong with Octo core?
FinancialWar said:
what's wrong with Octo core?
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big.LITTLE architecture failure, too much over heating! the s4 i9500 comes with a lot of issues & problems related to the exynos hardware! I used to own one, came back to note 2
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big.LITTLE architecture failure, too much over heating! the s4 i9500 comes with a lot of issues & problems related to the exynos hardware! I used to own one, came back to note 2
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My wife own a S4 (i9500) and never had a heating problem or any problem at all. Yes it's a little bit hot when the A15 kicks in for a long time but summer in Shanghai is really hot and nothing to freak out. I also sold a couple of them to people I know and none of them have issues. They all love it. I think you highly exaggerate when you say "lot of issues".
Note II/III LTE with Snapdragon 800
I am purchasing the note III that will have the Snapdragon 800!!! I Want it!
I for one would love to see a note II ( a 720p screen) & the snapdragon 800 paired together. Add a custom kernel to U.C. (& U.V. [ but not necessarily along with other performance tweaks]) to around 1.5-1.8Ghz from 2.2-2.3GHz and I believe we would have a device with a great balance of performance and even better battery life that the current Note II.
The Adreno 330 matched up with 2-3GB of ram would definitely handle the 720p resolution with amazing grace, completing task and powering down quicker than the Adreno 320 even in Multi-view. For game play and performance, I will let you use your imagination but I am not referring to Words with Friends or Angry Birds.
I do not use S-Voice. Google Now is my preferred software of choice. I like to have a snappy UI (with great graphics, it is eye pleasing) and wish for even longer battery life when undergoing long periods of heavier use ie: 2.5hr of phone calls then; watching Netflix or a 720p film/tv episode from my sd card while responding to 20-30 mssgs/emails; an hour of HD game play and then video chat before going to bed. I travel often, can you tell? Let us not forget about constantly web browsing to search for the latest updates on S800’s/platforms power draw.
Look, we cannot have everything that we want, trade-offs are inevitable. A Beast of a phone/phablet that can handle the next 2 OS upgrades is what we all are praying for. I’m saying I would love that balance and think others would too. A Snapdragon 800 clocked up to 1.72-1.78Ghz in a note II with S-Voice wake commands disabled should have a comparable UI experience, if not slightly better, compared to the current NII’s and hopefully improved battery life.
Once again, I know this is about the Note III - please no flaming I am purchasing the note III that will have the Snapdragon 800!!! I Want it!
I an thinking of (min/max increase to) 1.5-2.5days of battery life on moderate to heavy use... am i the only one thinking that could be possible using a 720p screen? ... because i do also want the Adreno 320 GPU higher off-screen capabilities for presentations & gameplay
I know,... i do want it all but who doesn't... but what do you think about the 720p idea?
New octa would be better than S800 imo.
86Dragons said:
I am purchasing the note III that will have the Snapdragon 800!!! I Want it!
I for one would love to see a note II ( a 720p screen) & the snapdragon 800 paired together. Add a custom kernel to U.C. (& U.V. [ but not necessarily along with other performance tweaks]) to around 1.5-1.8Ghz from 2.2-2.3GHz and I believe we would have a device with a great balance of performance and even better battery life that the current Note II.
The Adreno 330 matched up with 2-3GB of ram would definitely handle the 720p resolution with amazing grace, completing task and powering down quicker than the Adreno 320 even in Multi-view. For game play and performance, I will let you use your imagination but I am not referring to Words with Friends or Angry Birds.
I do not use S-Voice. Google Now is my preferred software of choice. I like to have a snappy UI (with great graphics, it is eye pleasing) and wish for even longer battery life when undergoing long periods of heavier use ie: 2.5hr of phone calls then; watching Netflix or a 720p film/tv episode from my sd card while responding to 20-30 mssgs/emails; an hour of HD game play and then video chat before going to bed. I travel often, can you tell? Let us not forget about constantly web browsing to search for the latest updates on S800’s/platforms power draw.
Look, we cannot have everything that we want, trade-offs are inevitable. A Beast of a phone/phablet that can handle the next 2 OS upgrades is what we all are praying for. I’m saying I would love that balance and think others would too. A Snapdragon 800 clocked up to 1.72-1.78Ghz in a note II with S-Voice wake commands disabled should have a comparable UI experience, if not slightly better, compared to the current NII’s and hopefully improved battery life.
Once again, I know this is about the Note III - please no flaming I am purchasing the note III that will have the Snapdragon 800!!! I Want it!
I an thinking of (min/max increase to) 1.5-2.5days of battery life on moderate to heavy use... am i the only one thinking that could be possible using a 720p screen? ... because i do also want the Adreno 320 GPU higher off-screen capabilities for presentations & gameplay
I know,... i do want it all but who doesn't... but what do you think about the 720p idea?
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No way! We need 1080p now! Now that the s4 and HTC one are out.
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jetbruceli said:
No way! We need 1080p now! Now that the s4 and HTC one are out.
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Anything above 300ppi is wasted on normal eye from more than 10cm, from more normal 25cm, 240ppi is more than enough. I have note 2 and lenovo k900, side by side from normal distance I can see no difference in black text on white screen quality (white on black is better on Lenovo, that is true). So it would be nice, but by no means a dealbraker for me
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Anything above 300ppi is wasted on normal eye from more than 10cm, from more normal 25cm, 240ppi is more than enough. I have note 2 and lenovo k900, side by side from normal distance I can see no difference in black text on white screen quality (white on black is better on Lenovo, that is true). So it would be nice, but by no means a dealbraker for me
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Who says 300 is perfect? I was at the local o2 shop and played with a s4 and was amazed at the screen. Ever since Apple started this retina display I always wanted that in our devices. With a 1080p on 5.7 inch it's gonna be just awesome to read and play on the note 3.
Seriously try out the s4 and see how well the text looks.
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Who says 300 is perfect? I was at the local o2 shop and played with a s4 and was amazed at the screen. Ever since Apple started this retina display I always wanted that in our devices. With a 1080p on 5.7 inch it's gonna be just awesome to read and play on the note 3.
Seriously try out the s4 and see how well the text looks.
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I say it's perfect. I have both to compare as I wrote @5.5 inch 720p and 1080p are almost indistinguishable from normal use distance. You say it's not, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Unless you put your nose almost to the screen you won't see any difference. Of course, given chance I would take FHD but to pay premium for it? No way Reading books - I do it every day on Note 2, playing games - with current GPU it would be suicide to try FHD gaming @ full details. Note 3, whatever they put in it will have to be much faster to handle FHD, the only reason I'm happy about that is because I will use MHL to play on my TV and then it will finally use full resolution. Other than that FHD on screen this size is useless, companies have limited numbers to compete with, so they up the display resolution (putting further strain on battery because higher res requires faster GPU and CPU to drive it well) or camera megapixels.
It drives my all the closer to switching to Chinese phones - 1/2 the price, almost the same hardware - you can get Note 2 lookalike (although with MTK CPU, but almost equal in speed) for about 300$, of course, no SPen, but that was only an example.
Oh, and you get FHD display that you like so much

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