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Just wondering if the Epic can be used on MetroPCS like the Evo can. I recently sold my Captivate for an Evo, and I hate to say it, but I think I liked the Captivate more. Better screen and better processor is hard to downgrade from
If it's possible to flash the Epic to Metro, I would pick it up in a second.
I haven't found any search results on Google or here, so I figured there was no harm in asking.
Thanks in advance for any help or answers you might have.
From what I've read, slim to none. At least, if you plan to use the internet for anything besides web browsing with the stock browser (ie, forget anything that accesses the internet directly within an app).
The problems:
1. MetroPCS uses proxies for everything.
2. Android proxy support sucks. No, wait... that's not strong enough. Android proxy support sucks monkey balls. In theory, you might be able to build your own kernel that includes iptables support and use iptables with some handwritten helper apps to deal with them... but you'll basically be trailblazing virgin territory, and mostly on your own. Your phone is unlikely to ever work properly. Android's crude proxy support only (kind of) works with the built-in browser. This isn't kiddie stuff. This isn't even "L33t" stuff. If you're a true Linux God who works for Metro, chills with Linus once or twice a year, and has access to Metro's internal documentation (or possibly the guy who created Cyanogen, with a close friend who works for Metro), you MIGHT get it to work... eventually. Nobody less is likely to ever get an Epic to work properly on Metro.
3. Android depends on Sprint for things like network-based location service. Guess what isn't going to work on MetroPCS?
4. Did I mention that Metro is 1xRTT, and the one place where they have 4G (Las Vegas) uses LTE, which isn't compatible with the Epic?
Really, if you add up what it would cost to buy an unsubsidized Epic and 24 months of service with MetroPCS, and compare it to the cost of buying an Epic with a 24 month Sprint contract and 24 months of Sprint, it's insane to even contemplate trying to use the Epic with MetroPCS. The only reason to ever use a Sprint Android phone on Metro is if you have an old one that you'd just chuck into a drawer, and would rather give it to a needy friend or family member with MetroPCS. Buying Sprint's most expensive phone at full retail to use on Metro would be insane.
(By the way, I know this because I *was* going to give my old Hero to a needy friend with Metro).
If the evo can gain access then most likely the epic can. I'm just making this broad assumptions considering the run the same operating system with mostly all the same functions.
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i heared of many people that were able to get the internet to work on the epic but i don't know exactly how
arvinghost said:
i heared of many people that were able to get the internet to work on the epic but i don't know exactly how
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Lol you don't know how they got the internet to work, and you're using an internet based app... I'm guessing you're joking...
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anybody know how to get the mms working?
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Lol you don't know how they got the internet to work, and you're using an internet based app... I'm guessing you're joking...
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On metropcs not on sprint... Read before you post please.
is the mms working?
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is the mms working?
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Maybe you can use the Epic on Boost Mobile and what are the limitations with Boost Mobile besides 4G?
From what I remember when was with Metro (had a Touch Pro), Howard Forums are where a lot of their modding community hangs out. At least that was where all the work/discussion seemed to be going on back then. A simply google search should show the way.
The keys are internet & MMS. Internet tends to be the first thing to get unlocked, but without that MMS is hopeless. Even then MMS isn't always possible, depends a lot on the phone. In the past HTC phones were very easy to make fully function, with Samsung & LG phones being rather difficult. Also keep in mind that, as much as Metro used it as a marketing ploy, they really don't like the flashed phones ideas. They've already nearly disabled all flashed phones once by changing the passwords needed to access the web proxies.
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Maybe you can use the Epic on Boost Mobile and what are the limitations with Boost Mobile besides 4G?
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native sprint coverage only, no roaming.
for some this may be good, for others it may be a dealbreaker.
to make mms work, you need to simply alter the mmsc URL in the ##DATA# > MSL menu and change it from Sprint's to boost's
changing the MMS url is easy for boost..same w/ making internet work... Samsung phones are CAKE to put on boost FWIW
epic 4g will only run 3g on metropcs
i have my epic 4g running on metropcs at 3g speed but i realy want to run at 4g lte speed i had my friend flash this phone for me but he said the metro 4g is a waste of time as it is not good i think there is no flash available yet for the 4glte
i am trying to find out i think the main problem is there is no routing table for metro pcs 4g lte any how if anyone knows how to modify the flash to get the 4g lte running please let me know thanks in advance i will copy my rom an post it later here if anyone wants it i will of course have to edit my log in and stuff but i am hopeing someone here already has figured out the solution
thanks again
scooby dont
scooby dont said:
i have my epic 4g running on metropcs at 3g speed but i realy want to run at 4g lte speed i had my friend flash this phone for me but he said the metro 4g is a waste of time as it is not good i think there is no flash available yet for the 4glte
i am trying to find out i think the main problem is there is no routing table for metro pcs 4g lte any how if anyone knows how to modify the flash to get the 4g lte running please let me know thanks in advance i will copy my rom an post it later here if anyone wants it i will of course have to edit my log in and stuff but i am hopeing someone here already has figured out the solution
thanks again
scooby dont
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Uhhh...no. The Epic has no LTE capability. Only WiMax chipset.
The epic doesn't have an lte radio, that's why it doesn't work.
If you got 3g working and mms, then its practically runnin as well as it could be on metro
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scooby dont said:
i have my epic 4g running on metropcs at 3g speed but i realy want to run at 4g lte speed i had my friend flash this phone for me but he said the metro 4g is a waste of time as it is not good i think there is no flash available yet for the 4glte
i am trying to find out i think the main problem is there is no routing table for metro pcs 4g lte any how if anyone knows how to modify the flash to get the 4g lte running please let me know thanks in advance i will copy my rom an post it later here if anyone wants it i will of course have to edit my log in and stuff but i am hopeing someone here already has figured out the solution
thanks again
scooby dont
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You posted that on two different threads.
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This. ^ Metro does have 4G but it is LTE, unless the Wimax driver gets a software upgrade in the future, no Metro 4G currently possible. Though you can still pay for Sprint 4G service if you turn on the 4G radio and pay for a 24 hour pass for like 15 bucks.
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Even if you could get all the 3G services working properly, you could never use it as a 4G phone on MetroPCS. Epic is WiMax, Metro is LTE.
Trust me, you want the 4G. Now this is my opinion only so take it for what it is worth. From what I have seen of the existing Metro 3G network it sucks plain and simple, not just for data, but voice services as well. I have tested out the 4G network a bit in South Florida though and am duly impressed. Speed was very good, and even though I don't believe 4G is used for voice services yet, the phone I saw still had much better call performance (most notably actually receiving incoming calls).
Sprint has proven once again that their Network vision upgrade needs to have happened yesterday. These results show not only that sprint's network is struggling in some areas but MOST areas.
They only managed a 480kbps average EV-DO (3G) speed, the slowest speed tested. Their 4g and 3g networks were also some of the least reliable networks tested.
Get the picture Sprint. We need a real 4g network on a real spectrum. A 2500mhz Wimax network spottily thrown together isn't going to cut it, neither is 10 year old backhaul. It's make or break time Sprint.
Are we looking at the same chart?
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All I care about is if I get good reception.
And I don't.
Should have come to Baton Rouge. They would have scored 0.05 megabit on the speedtest all day long!
The old adage holds true, you get what you pay for..
Well, first I'd like to mention these stats offer no souce or details on how/where and how many times these figures were tested, which I usually like to see (I'm the skeptical type)
That being said, I agree. I'm lucky to be in Chicago, pretty decent 4g and 3g coverage, but 3g's been slowing down more and more and it shows in many places. They need to pick it up on 3g (their main network). No reason for a tower to only offer 1.2 (1 T1 line minus 300kbps for sprint control) even at 4am on a Tuesday in the suburbs, when Verizons almost always 2mpbs or more with full bars on 3g (and has been for years), same network technology. Its data speeds on 3g I've never been quite happy with.
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makes me miss verizon =[
Ya know, they all suck right now. Verizon's going metered and is cdma (less support), T-mobile's going to get eaten by AT&T because our government can't do the only thing it's supposed to do while it's busy doing everything it isn't supposed to do, Sprint is suffering 3g data slowdown, and again is cdma which means less support.
I've been toying with an idea lately to get the World version GSII, do the iphone trick (get an att sim card with basic voice, pop that in a 2g orig iphone to get on the edge data plan which is ONLY available as unlimited, pop that in a 3g iphone to get auto-upgraded to the $30, grandfathered unlimited data plan) and use it on AT&T with unlimited data. The ONLY issue I have with this (as I'd have my unlimited data, GV for sms) is I'd be paying money to a truly terrible entity (AT&T) and I sincerely morally object to everything they're doing. And yet it would mean a much much larger community...
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makes me miss verizon =[
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I know someone who says they can see their data speeds die on Verizon with evry new phone launch. Especially the 4g signal.
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Ya know, they all suck right now. Verizon's going metered and is cdma (less support), T-mobile's going to get eaten by AT&T because our government can't do the only thing it's supposed to do while it's busy doing everything it isn't supposed to do, Sprint is suffering 3g data slowdown, and again is cdma which means less support.
I've been toying with an idea lately to get the World version GSII, do the iphone trick (get an att sim card with basic voice, pop that in a 2g orig iphone to get on the edge data plan which is ONLY available as unlimited, pop that in a 3g iphone to get auto-upgraded to the $30, grandfathered unlimited data plan) and use it on AT&T with unlimited data. The ONLY issue I have with this (as I'd have my unlimited data, GV for sms) is I'd be paying money to a truly terrible entity (AT&T) and I sincerely morally object to everything they're doing. And yet it would mean a much much larger community...
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My sister is doing an even easier and cheaper trick. Get a t-mobile vibrant or motorola defy for $200 then unlock it your self and use it with a $15 a month medianet unlimited data plan. You could take advantage of at&t's $50 unlimited everything prepaid plan too. You just need to make sure to get a phone which works with att's 3g frequency bands (moto defy/vibrant/i9000/sgs 2/rogers nexus s) but isn't on their system as a recognized smart phone ,(in other words one they don't sell).
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Until Sprint gets rid of their unlimited data plan, I will tolerate them for now.
Jayavarman said:
Until Sprint gets rid of their unlimited data plan, I will tolerate them for now.
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+1 Hopefully they won't go the route of everyone else. If they did I'm going back to a dumb phone because unlimited data is the main reason I have a smartphone.
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My sister is doing an even easier and cheaper trick. Get a t-mobile vibrant or motorola defy for $200 then unlock it your self and use it with a $15 a month medianet unlimited data plan. You could take advantage of at&t's $50 unlimited everything prepaid plan too. You just need to make sure to get a phone which works with att's 3g frequency bands (moto defy/vibrant/i9000/sgs 2/rogers nexus s) but isn't on their system as a recognized smart phone ,(in other words one they don't sell).
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Only problem with this is I don't believe the i9000 or gsII (or any world phone) works on tmo 3g aws bands. Only att plus they'll be att soon...
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yeah Verizon did this test.. and im sure they did it in Verizon areas.. These test are like benchmarks on our phones... yeah its cool to say.. hey I have the fastest internet on my phone.. but truthfully it doesn't mean anything.. I personally use my WIFI for the most part and use my 3g/4g randomly when im bored shopping with my wife.. besides... I have unlimited 3g/4g.. I guess sprint lost bc of that too?
Spring is the new tmobile
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yeah Verizon did this test.. and im sure they did it in Verizon areas.. These test are like benchmarks on our phones... yeah its cool to say.. hey I have the fastest internet on my phone.. but truthfully it doesn't mean anything.. I personally use my WIFI for the most part and use my 3g/4g randomly when im bored shopping with my wife.. besides... I have unlimited 3g/4g.. I guess sprint lost bc of that too?
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I also use wifi most often when I am surfing with my phone. This test was performed by Verizon? I didn't catch that part. Where did you see that?
In the end Sprint will show us that sticking with them meant nothing. As soon as Verizon gets their tiered data underway. Sprint will go that route too, and give us just a little more than ATT and Verizon. They know we will have nowhere else to go! I just wish I had ditched sprint in February when I started too. Verizon 4G is in my area and i'm stuck with slow speeds.
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I also use wifi most often when I am surfing with my phone. This test was performed by Verizon? I didn't catch that part. Where did you see that?
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Well, the whole line is highlighted and there's no source listed so, probably. We still haven't seen any testing method data so I call shenanigans til I see a source named.
That said, my moms droid charge pulls in 16/4 (my home internet is only 12/1.5). But that's 4g and not all their new phones are...
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The test was done by PCMag (http://www.pcmag.com/Fastest-Mobile-Networks-2011)
That being said, my work is a VZW Deadzone, where-as I get at least some Spring signal. I average 9mb/1.5mb down/up on 4G in and around my neighborhood and if my 3G signal can be slower than what is on the chart, its still far faster than anything I need to do daily. If I need more, I'll go 4G/Wifi and be done with it. I abuse the hell outta my unlimited, averaging upwards of 6GB a month data on my phone alone (the wifey also has a Epic on the plan) and I've now thrown a GTab 10.1 into the mix and tether of the phone.
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Well, the whole line is highlighted and there's no source listed so, probably. We still haven't seen any testing method data so I call shenanigans til I see a source named.
That said, my moms droid charge pulls in 16/4 (my home internet is only 12/1.5). But that's 4g and not all their new phones are...
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Undoubtedly there is a correlation between the all-you-can-eat data and the slow speeds - ie burden on the network.
i have an unrooted htc evo 4g, im interested in activation with metro pcs. i know from what ive read the data network wont work or will only work in a limited capacity (depending on who you ask) because of the lte/wimax discussion ive seen a hundred times. but it happens that im already a clearwire customer, and ive seen also that you can activate the 4g data network through them, so my question is this: can i activate the phone through metro pcs for phone service AND through clear for 4g to work in tamdem? i DO realize this would be less expensive to do just using sprints service, but currently sprint and i arent on speaking terms and with the hotspot enabled it was like 30 bucks extra (so maybe not cheaper?). thanks for your response!
the answer is yes. You can do exactly what you're talking about.
I run my EVO on cricket and can connect the 4G to clear if I want.
THANK YOU!! any recommended roots for metro?
I recently was looking to upgrade my phone, which currently is a LG motion (For those of you who care) running metro PCS service.
My question is, does anyone know if MetroPCS service allows for a Google Nexus 4 to run? The phone supposedly (according to threads on the internet) can actually run LTE even though it doesn't claim so. Some say that it's signals and services also can run with metro PCS. I wouldn't mind only having Phone and Text with them, so if the cost of data is necessary that could be arranged.
Thank you all!
(If it does work, more than just myself will be happy to hear
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I recently was looking to upgrade my phone, which currently is a LG motion (For those of you who care) running metro PCS service.
My question is, does anyone know if MetroPCS service allows for a Google Nexus 4 to run? The phone supposedly (according to threads on the internet) can actually run LTE even though it doesn't claim so. Some say that it's signals and services also can run with metro PCS. I wouldn't mind only having Phone and Text with them, so if the cost of data is necessary that could be arranged.
Thank you all!
(If it does work, more than just myself will be happy to hear
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MetroPCS is CDMA so it won't work with Nexus 4.
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MetroPCS is CDMA so it won't work with Nexus 4.
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Wrong. MetroPCS is now with T-Mobile and they plan to merge the networks together.
@OP: More details here,
We knew this day would come and thanks to a trio of screenshots leaked to the boys at PhoneArena, we know an actual date. Beginning June 12th, MetroPCS customers will have the opportunity to use compatible unlocked GSM phones which include iPhones, Android, Windows Phone and certain feature phones. There’s no telling just how many devices out of the Android lineup Metro customers will be able to choose from, but it’s clear T-Mobile and MetroPCS are moving fast to offer the latter customers with more options. As of June 12th, Metro customers will head to www.metropcs.com/keepyourphone to find which unlocked devices will be available.
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http://www.tmonews.com/2013/06/leak...tropcs-bring-your-own-phone-begins-june-12th/
The possibility of it working is there, but it'd be on T-Mobile network and not MetroPCS but they're one entity now... but since they're one entity I'm sure you could use TMo's network as a MetroPCS customer. Just wait for the official word for more details (June 12th... rumored)
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Wrong. MetroPCS is now with T-Mobile and they plan to merge the networks together.
@OP: More details here,
http://www.tmonews.com/2013/06/leak...tropcs-bring-your-own-phone-begins-june-12th/
The possibility of it working is there, but it'd be on T-Mobile network and not MetroPCS but they're one entity now... but since they're one entity I'm sure you could use TMo's network as a MetroPCS customer. Just wait for the official word for more details (June 12th... rumored)
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MetroPCS is still CDMA so how am I wrong? They have a boat load of CDMA phones out there in customers hands that would need to be traded in. What they more than likely will do is eventually force those MetroPCS customers onto T-Mobile as MetroPCS has no infrastructure, just customers. And just because MetroPCS will be offering T-Mobile devices doesn't mean they will also offer prepaid bring your own phone plans for T-Mobile service. Their business model is to sell you a phone at full price and then you get a no contract month to month service plan. It would be cheaper to just go to T-Mobile and get a no contract plan than to have to buy a T-Mobile phone at MetroPCS, sign up for a plan, and then switch sims over to the Nexus 4.
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MetroPCS is still CDMA so how am I wrong? They have a boat load of CDMA phones out there in customers hands that would need to be traded in. What they more than likely will do is eventually force those MetroPCS customers onto T-Mobile as MetroPCS has no infrastructure, just customers. And just because MetroPCS will be offering T-Mobile devices doesn't mean they will also offer prepaid bring your own phone plans for T-Mobile service. Their business model is to sell you a phone at full price and then you get a no contract month to month service plan. It would be cheaper to just go to T-Mobile and get a no contract plan than to have to buy a T-Mobile phone at MetroPCS, sign up for a plan, and then switch sims over to the Nexus 4.
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You're right but I think he was trying to say that the two companies have merged and they are working our connecting their networks to one. MetroPCS customers will have to switch to T-Mobile by 2015. q
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Prophet968 said:
I recently was looking to upgrade my phone, which currently is a LG motion (For those of you who care) running metro PCS service.
My question is, does anyone know if MetroPCS service allows for a Google Nexus 4 to run? The phone supposedly (according to threads on the internet) can actually run LTE even though it doesn't claim so. Some say that it's signals and services also can run with metro PCS. I wouldn't mind only having Phone and Text with them, so if the cost of data is necessary that could be arranged.
Thank you all!
(If it does work, more than just myself will be happy to hear
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MetroPCS is CDMA so it won't work with Nexus 4.
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Wrong. MetroPCS is now with T-Mobile and they plan to merge the networks together.
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Come on man you made the guy seem like he gave a bad answer when you typed in Wrong like that. Hey OP MetroPCS is cdma and we all know that and no you can't bring your phone to MetroPCS to get it turned on but hey when they finish the merger with T-Mobile then maybe the Metro stores (new T-Mobile) will be able to handle that for you. But if you are looking for prepay choices look into Walmarts plan, Simple Mobile and T-Mobiles prepaid since they are all along the line of MetroPCS.
Also dont get caught up in the LTE hype for speeds. If you are lucky enough to live in a HSPA+ area there is nothing wrong with 18 - 25 mbps download. Anything over a constant 5mbps is good enough to stream HD in most cases. Also LTE gonna destroy your battery life... Just my opinion guys
http://www.tmonews.com/2013/06/metr...ogram-opening-up-network-to-t-mobile-devices/
Told you so.
The program supports AT&T and T-Mobile iPhones, and the iPhone 5 from Verizon and Sprint. Also supported are GSM-based Android phones and Windows Phone devices, but not BlackBerry smartphones, or any tablets/mobile hotspots. MetroPCS customers will choose from the company’s current offering of $40/$50/$60 rate plans to use with the devices. In the end, the program is basically a way for T-Mobile devices to activate on the Metro network.
There are some limitations to the bring-your-own-device program including: “MetroPCS does not assume any liability for the lack of effectiveness for non-MetroPCS devices,” the carrier wrote on its website.
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Come on man you made the guy seem like he gave a bad answer when you typed in Wrong like that.
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It is a bad answer though. Its simple, don't reply back unless you really know what you're saying. Either that or just say that there is a possibility of uncertainty.
Yes its compatible the use each others towers that's how T-Mobile has some LTE markets (source is the link in the post above)
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Prophet968 said:
I recently was looking to upgrade my phone, which currently is a LG motion (For those of you who care) running meto PCS service.
My question is, does anyone know if MetroPCS service allows for a Google Nexus 4 to run? The phone supposedly (according to threads on the internet) can actually run LTE even though it doesn't claim so. Some say that it's signals and services also can run with metro PCS. I wouldn't mind only having Phone and Text with them, so if the cost of data is necessary that could be arranged.
Thank you all!
(If it does work, more than just myself will be happy to hear
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Yes you can run metro PCs on nexus 4..now that T-Mobile bought metro u can use it on tmobiles network through metro and it is pretty good. I just activated mine today
Thank me lol
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Yes you can run metro PCs on nexus 4..now that T-Mobile bought metro u can use it on tmobiles network through metro and it is pretty good. I just activated mine today
Thank me lol
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Isn't that in certain areas? Or is it possible nationwide?
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pretty sure it will work everywhere
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Isn't that in certain areas? Or is it possible nationwide?
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Go to the MAIN metro store in your local area to do it..on the phone all the reps said no but i just went in to the main dealer in my area and they got it to work..the small stores most likely cant do it because they have to program it for some reason..its not just putting in a sim card like tmobile or att..metro pcs is even taking any unlocked phones from att and of course tmobile (getting my sis an iPhone from eBay because of that)..they are now a hspa+ network so it should work everywhere.. I was actually very surprised they were able to activate it but inside the store they had a notice saying they are changing all their phones to T-Mobile's hspa and to upgrade phones soon. And their price was actually cheaper then the 60$ they advertised for unlimited everything
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MetroPCS is still CDMA so how am I wrong? They have a boat load of CDMA phones out there in customers hands that would need to be traded in. What they more than likely will do is eventually force those MetroPCS customers onto T-Mobile as MetroPCS has no infrastructure, just customers. And just because MetroPCS will be offering T-Mobile devices doesn't mean they will also offer prepaid bring your own phone plans for T-Mobile service. Their business model is to sell you a phone at full price and then you get a no contract month to month service plan. It would be cheaper to just go to T-Mobile and get a no contract plan than to have to buy a T-Mobile phone at MetroPCS, sign up for a plan, and then switch sims over to the Nexus 4.
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Metro is now hspa
MetroPCS merge
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Isn't that in certain areas? Or is it possible nationwide?
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In my area, the update has only just rolled out sometime last month. Go too your MetroPCS store and ask if you can, they should be able to give you an estimate. In my case the update was a substantial improvement too speed making the release obvious.
METROPCS is GSM now so any unlocked phone or tmobike GSM phone will work. They no longer sell CDMA phones but will support the network through 2015 before it goes full GSM.
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Please forgive me if my post is hard to understand, as I am on strong meds for my epilepsy.
Ladies and gentlemen, I am an avid supporter of Straight Talk, as I find it has the best overall bang for my buck at $45 a month. Now that ST is offering Verizon sim cards to be used on their network (unlimited talk, text, 3GB data, throttled after 3GB,) I have decided to jump onto their towers. Coming from a Oneplus One with an AT&T sim, needless to say, I was very used to flashing nightly CM builds. The OPO is a good phone, another bang for my buck purchase, but in my rural area Verizon seems to just have better service. I picked up a new in box VZW Note 4 from Swappa for $565 tax free, and have some impressions I'd like to share.
The service:
The service is superior on Verizon. At the VA hospital, at home, and at the mall, I get seamless simultaneous data and voice service. With the OPO on ATT, this was not the case. On the OPO, I would be stuck without the ability to load a web page in many areas, even though the phone stated that it had a 4g LTE connection. I have not run into this issue on the VZW note 4. Neither ATT nor Verizon offers roaming on straight talk, but the VZW towers are so extensive, that I have yet to run into an issue. On ATT, I was unable to get service in some of the more rural areas of my state (nevada.)
The hardware:
The hardware is far superior on the Note 4 than the OPO. It sports a higher res screen, IR blaster, Wacom stylus, and all the fun features that make a note 4 what it is.
The price:
The OPO had a much better price point, but I was satisfied with the increase in services for the note 4 that I got for $200 more than what the OPO costs.
The software:
The note 4 is capable of software that has good practical use, such as a universal remote and drawing software. The OPO is not capable of such things as the hardware does not support it, however, it does have root, and CM, so all the Titanium Backup and Wifi tethering you can handle (as long as you have good service.) The VZW Note 4 is capable of wifi tethering through PDA Net, which luckily I still had a key for from when I had PDA net on my T-Mobile G1 back in the day, but it is obnoxious and makes me utilize a lockscreen pin number which serves as an inhibitor of my device since I like to casually pick it up and turn it on.
The bloatware:
Oneplus One has no bloatware, and even if it did, you could remove it with Titanium Backup. VZW Note 4 has much bloatware, and a lot of it is incompatible with straight talk. Things that will not work on Straight Talk include Caller Name ID, My Verizon Mobile, stock wifi tethering, and visual voicemail. As most of these are premium services, I don't have a use for them and hide them from my menu. VZ Navigator does work on Straight talk, and I find it a very useful GPS software.
Overall, I am satisfied with the Note 4 on Verizon. I will not revert to the OPO and/or ATT ST, and I will not move to Verizon Wireless for prepaid service as it offers less data, and I will not pay for a post-paid Verizon Wireless subscription as it makes no sense now considering the cost and the fact that I own my late model phone outright. I am disappointed that it does not have root, and I should have certainly checked that with this specific device before purchasing, but I do not believe I would have purchased any differently in hindsight. The things I need like wifi tethering have work-arounds, and I surprisingly don't miss downloading new CM updates every night in hopes that it would squash bugs in my service.
Thank you for reading
So maybe I am missing something, but where do you get Verizon Sim cards for the Note 4 on StraightTalk?
Update: Now I see where Walmart is selling them, but can't find them on Straight Talks site. Interesting. Maybe I will try one.
just wondering not that I am planning to switch to ST but how are speed tests? I helped someone move from T-Mobile to ST but that was on AT&T tho. with Moto G LTE and speedtests were around 6-8 mbps usually.
dlang123 said:
So maybe I am missing something, but where do you get Verizon Sim cards for the Note 4 on StraightTalk?
Update: Now I see where Walmart is selling them, but can't find them on Straight Talks site. Interesting. Maybe I will try one.
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http://www.straighttalkbyop.com/shop.php has sprint and vzw activation kits
patt2k said:
just wondering not that I am planning to switch to ST but how are speed tests? I helped someone move from T-Mobile to ST but that was on AT&T tho. with Moto G LTE and speedtests were around 6-8 mbps usually.
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I just got 6mb down 2mb up when I tried speedtest. I can't remember what the ATT ST was, but I am pretty sure it was significantly higher
One hiccup that I'm looking to fix is that I cannot receive MMS from my girlfriend who has ATT. I can receive MMS from myself, so perhaps verizon senders will work. VZWINTERNET APN settings are also grayed out, so I can't screw with APN settings. Any suggestions? I don't have developer edition so no root apn managers will work
I'm using mine on straight talk (tmobile) and I get download speeds of 25mbps in my area
Sent from my SM-N910V
dogredwing1 said:
I'm using mine on straight talk (tmobile) and I get download speeds of 25mbps in my area
Sent from my SM-N910V
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TMO is very generous with their data, and there are even better priced TMO MVNOs than Straight Talk. I definitely wish they had the towers in my region to provide good service, but unfortunately they don't work in much of the state.
ST has instructions for creating a new APN network when you activate the phone, in order to receive MMS and have a solid connection for data to their network. If you go to ST's website, and log into your account, it should be under one of the tabs. Alternatively, you could Google the Verizon ST APN settings, or search ST's site for them.
Hope this helps!
Kelly
Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (Verizon)
Samsung Galaxy Note Pro 12.2
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ST has instructions for creating a new APN network when you activate the phone, in order to receive MMS and have a solid connection for data to their network. If you go to ST's website, and log into your account, it should be under one of the tabs. Alternatively, you could Google the Verizon ST APN settings, or search ST's site for them.
Hope this helps!
Kelly
Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (Verizon)
Samsung Galaxy Note Pro 12.2
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It started working yesterday, must have just been a network issue from the switchover
FYI Straight Talk is a MVNO utilzing Verizon's network...
FYI Straight Talk is a MVNO* utilizing Verizon's (for CDMA phones) or AT&T's and T-Mobile's network (when using GSM phones)... assuming Verizon doesn't throttle Straight Talk, you should get identical performance, range and results since you are on the same towers.
* MVNO (Mobile Virtual Network Operator) ... essentially they are a sophisticated reseller.
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FYI Straight Talk is a MVNO* utilizing Verizon's (for CDMA phones) or AT&T's and T-Mobile's network (when using GSM phones)... assuming Verizon doesn't throttle Straight Talk, you should get identical performance, range and results since you are on the same towers.
* MVNO (Mobile Virtual Network Operator) ... essentially they are a sophisticated reseller.
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I know it's an MVNO. Apparently Verizon throttles 4g to 5mbps on Straight Talk. I wish I knew that before hand, but 3 gigs of 5mbps is more important to me than 1 - 1.5 gigs of full speed LTE on the Verizon branded prepaid for the same price. It's an unnoticeable trade-off as I haven't found anything that won't stream through Straight Talk.
The higher-speed alternative with 3 gigs would be PagePlus at $55 a month. I'm saving the $10 with ST and am still satisfied.
http://www.bestmvno.com/verizon-mvnos.html
Thanks for posting this thread. I've been considering jumping over to Straight Talk with my Note 4, and your experience with the device and the service is helpful.
I'm also using a VZW Note 4 on ST VZW SIM and find it more than satisfactory. The process of getting it on the network was a bit convoluted but I got it working. I purchased my Certified Pre-Owned Note 4 through VZW's and didn't realize they start an activation process when they ship it. I was unable to immediately use it on ST because of this. I actually had to use a month of VZW prepaid before they'd let me off. Stupid stuff man...
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I know it's an MVNO. Apparently Verizon throttles 4g to 5mbps on Straight Talk. I wish I knew that before hand, but 3 gigs of 5mbps is more important to me than 1 - 1.5 gigs of full speed LTE on the Verizon branded prepaid for the same price. It's an unnoticeable trade-off as I haven't found anything that won't stream through Straight Talk.
The higher-speed alternative with 3 gigs would be PagePlus at $55 a month. I'm saving the $10 with ST and am still satisfied.
http://www.bestmvno.com/verizon-mvnos.html
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I'll stick with ST on AT&T. I just ran a test and got 23.96 Mbps down and 13.54 Mpbs up. And I live in mountainous WV.
Thanks for the info on this. I am going to buy out the rest of my contract with VZW as soon as I can and save over half on my monthly bill while getting 1 more gig of data. No ringbacks or VVM but it's a good tradeoff.
treyjazz said:
Thanks for the info on this. I am going to buy out the rest of my contract with VZW as soon as I can and save over half on my monthly bill while getting 1 more gig of data. No ringbacks or VVM but it's a good tradeoff.
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Google Voice is a great alternative for VVM.
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Google Voice is a great alternative for VVM.
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I tried it but it really screwed up my VM and it ended up rejecting all VMs from missed calls. I tried at least 3 times to set it up and no dice. I just hope when I switch I have no problem.
patt2k said:
just wondering not that I am planning to switch to ST but how are speed tests? I helped someone move from T-Mobile to ST but that was on AT&T tho. with Moto G LTE and speedtests were around 6-8 mbps usually.
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I have galaxy note 4 n910v The speed test are not that great on straight talk using Verizon towers like 5-7 download.. 1 our less upload and 90-150 on ping test I think Verizon keeps Straight talk throttled.. I put in a metro PC's sim and was getting 25 download 3-4 upload and 35 on ping test. I currently have a sim card on way from T-Mobile and will be switching to them because T-Mobile throttles metro PC's during heavy use times .
I use ST on my note 4, only gripe I have is no OTA's so I'll have to flash these updates myself.
LTE-Verizon internet is unlocked i don't why hence my phone does not support 4g even though it's note 4 SM-N910V
Litomaro said:
LTE-Verizon internet is unlocked i don't why hence my phone does not support 4g even though it's note 4 SM-N910V
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Who is your network provider? Your issue is probably just apn.