So I've had my T-mobile HD2 for about 2 months now and for the past month or so it's been showing some very weird problems.
The thing is, it sometimes gets stuck (android and stock wm6.5) and the only way to get it working is to remove the battery for about 5 minutes after which it'll just boot and maybe get stuck at GO GO GO (magldr) or if I am lucky it'll load right into Android and then get stuck on the lockscreen.
The problem does seem to be less intensive on wm6.5 (not certain though). I didn't have much usage on WP7 as I don't have a compatible sd card (16gb sandisk)
When it's 'stuck' it sometimes begins to warm up as well. There have been a couple times where it just rebooted and then vibrated 3-5 times.
To my record I have never dropped the phone and there is no water damage either.
I suspect the SIM, as it does seem to exacerbate when the sim is inside, or maybe the NAND storage is corrupt.. can that happen if i used task29 too many times?
Radio: 2.15.50.14 (2.12 seems to be slightly more stable)
HSPL 2.08
MAGLDR 1.13
Tried many different Android builds (non-sense are slightly more stable) NAND and SD builds.. although SD cards don't have these problems as much
Please help.
sending it back for warranty isn't an option as I am not in the US at the moment, so whatever fix there is I'll have to bear the cost.
hayyaan said:
So I've had my T-mobile HD2 for about 2 months now and for the past month or so it's been showing some very weird problems.
The thing is, it sometimes gets stuck (android and stock wm6.5) and the only way to get it working is to remove the battery for about 5 minutes after which it'll just boot and maybe get stuck at GO GO GO (magldr) or if I am lucky it'll load right into Android and then get stuck on the lockscreen.
The problem does seem to be less intensive on wm6.5 (not certain though). I didn't have much usage on WP7 as I don't have a compatible sd card (16gb sandisk)
When it's 'stuck' it sometimes begins to warm up as well. There have been a couple times where it just rebooted and then vibrated 3-5 times.
To my record I have never dropped the phone and there is no water damage either.
I suspect the SIM, as it does seem to exacerbate when the sim is inside, or maybe the NAND storage is corrupt.. can that happen if i used task29 too many times?
Radio: 2.15.50.14 (2.12 seems to be slightly more stable)
HSPL 2.08
MAGLDR 1.13
Tried many different Android builds (non-sense are slightly more stable) NAND and SD builds.. although SD cards don't have these problems as much
Please help.
sending it back for warranty isn't an option as I am not in the US at the moment, so whatever fix there is I'll have to bear the cost.
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Sorry to have to say, but it sounds like a heat issue, which means the motherboard is failing. Have you tried a hard reset?
What exactly do you mean by hard reset?
I've put it to stock, yes.
any idea where I can get a motherboard? shipped internationally? approximate cost?
hayyaan said:
What exactly do you mean by hard reset?
I've put it to stock, yes.
any idea where I can get a motherboard? shipped internationally? approximate cost?
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Hard reset, turn phone off, hold volume buttons up and down and keep holding them and press power button and a screen will come up asking you if you wanna hard rest the device, just follow instructions, and motherboard, HTC as far as I no, and thats about it unless you buy another phone that is for spares and repairs mate,
hayyaan said:
What exactly do you mean by hard reset?
I've put it to stock, yes.
any idea where I can get a motherboard? shipped internationally? approximate cost?
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You are having a thermal break down issue. Go to the li.k below and eaxthis thread it is very informative, the 3 vibrations are a warning from your HD2 that it is having a CPU issue, read the thread it will explain.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982454
You can go to eBay and find main boards for the HD2 or you can buy one directly from HTC. I advice not o buy a HD2 that is broken and being sold for parts as you need the main board and usually the main board is shot in the phones being sold for parts and even one that has a faulty USB port is no good for you as the USB port is part of the main board, although if you are skilled you can fix it, like I said though you have to be skilled. Now if you can find one that just has a badly cracked Efren or faulty digitizer then you would be able to use the main board but anyway you go you are taking a chance to buy a broken HD2 for parts as you never know if the seller is owing about why the phone does not work. Not to mention you might get a HD2 that is bricked and you would have to use a JTAG on the main board to make it usable. I would buy a new replacement main board from eBay or straight from HTC.
About how long does it take to have heat issues? If you leave it on constantly, this will lead to a faster break down right?
also, do check the battery pins...they might be misaligned. misaligned battery pins are known to cause sporadic reboots and instabilities.
hayyaan said:
I suspect the SIM, as it does seem to exacerbate when the sim is inside, or maybe the NAND storage is corrupt.. can that happen if i used task29 too many times?
Radio: 2.15.50.14 (2.12 seems to be slightly more stable)
HSPL 2.08
MAGLDR 1.13
Tried many different Android builds (non-sense are slightly more stable) NAND and SD builds.. although SD cards don't have these problems as much
Please help.
sending it back for warranty isn't an option as I am not in the US at the moment, so whatever fix there is I'll have to bear the cost.
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Hi,
when did you format your SD Card for the last time? The behaviour of your phone sounds IMO like a dysfuntioning SD Card, which might be logical after trying different Android build.
Take your SD card out of your device - insert in, via card holder, into PC - right click in after starting My Computer and choose format SD Card (slow method) - backup you card to PC before formatting. After PC format has ended (which make take a while depending on amount of Gb's, reinsert Card into device and use SD Card formatting tool for format it again and make it ready for device. Reinsert into PC and backup the old data again and reisnsert into device. After that SR device and see if the problem has disappeared.
regards, Kuzibri
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Ive tried several WP7 NAND builds in this forum but everyone seem to give the same issue far as it randomly freezing and rebooting especially when the screen is off, Is anyone else having this issue and if so is there a solution?
Phone: TmoUS Leo
Radio: 2.15.50.40
Build: Frantic HD WP7
Yes ive had this same problem...would also like to know if there are any solutions...thanks
Try another SD card. Go for a SanDisk one as they are more compatible. WP7 doesn't accept many SD cards and you both have the typical symptoms of an incompatible card
mtippet said:
Ive tried several WP7 NAND builds in this forum but everyone seem to give the same issue far as it randomly freezing and rebooting especially when the screen is off, Is anyone else having this issue and if so is there a solution?
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Yes, and yes.
Random reboots are most likely caused by your MicroSD-card (WP7 will not work well with some cards). The only solution: try a different card.
There's a thread where people report which cards worked for them here.
ignore that thread
There is absoluetly no way of know what card will work.
statistically you have a better chance with a sandisk class 2 or 4 BUT that is not always the case, you may have a generic home brand class 10 that works but more likely you'll have better luck with those class 2 and 4 cards
No one is really sure why WP7 is having issues, the best idea so far is that its random read/write speeds that are the key, some class 10 cards have massive sequential write speeds but slower random reads which is where WP7 comes unstuck
Also, just because some one has a sandisk 8GB class 6 that works fine doesnt mean you will have the same luck with the exact same model because different cards use different components, even within the same make and model.
For example i have two 4GB sandisk class 6 cards, purchased on the same day at the same shop, both cards are model identical, one works fine the other has issues such as restarting, wifi not working and lagging
and to throw another spanner in the works i have a card that works perfectly, up until i fill the card to a certain point, then it starts all this restart business, if i dump a few hundred MB of music on the card taking it past that point it works fine . The card was been tested on the PC and i cant see anything wrong with it.
So, that leave me to think that for some reason when WP7 was trying to access that portion of the card for SYSTEM usage it was perhaps too slow to use or had some other issue, i can play music from that area however.
I just installed WP7 on my HD2 earlier today, was running fine for about.. 3-4 hours, I guess I was on it a good bit, not really letting it go to sleep for an extended period of time, but after I stopped messing with it, I noticed it rebooted itself, then it got froze on the lock screen, until it rebooted itself randomly again,, and then it did a complete wipe of my data on another random reboot?
Is this due to the SD card?
And can I just remove the SD card to fix this until theres some guarenteed cards that work with WP7?
or will it not boot without the SD card in?
Thanks alot.
it will work without SD but laggy and you will only have about 150MB of space.
good luck waiting for a card, its supposed to be unremovable so i doubt you will see over the counter products, im afraid its take a guess or buy an HD7
oop! yeah probably your SD
It is your sd card, sorry. Try a new one.
so nothing to do with how you format the sd card?
The guidelines
Welcome to the club!! u will soon get an error message umm in few weeks! then u will search.. u will undo hspl and all the things(sd card method even u will buy a new sd).. atlast it will kepp freezing.. the search and search... same omitted answers!! one fine day reboots then says!!!
ARM11 FATAL ERROR
FLASH_OS_WM.C LINE 582
or some other line ur search and search will end with 2 result and redfly..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11515140
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8838597
after this what i did
I LOGGED ON TO WWW.HTC.COM
SEARCHED FOR HTC AUTHORIZED SHOP IN MY TOWN
PLACED IT FOR REPAIR
Good thing :THEY JUST TOOK MY PHONE..U WILL GET BATTERY,SIM AND SD BACK!!
STILL WAITING TO GET IT REPAIRED!!!!
The best thing: u can use the phone without repairing.. but if ur chatting with ur GF ON FONE more than 3 min or recording a video it jusT reboots and hangs!!never boots back still its cold.. solution: buy an Air conditioning unit remove the battery cool it.. it will boot!!
the WP7 doesn't format the SD in options menu.
I tried this soluction and the phone appears more stable:
1- go in the
(caution----your data will be eraser)
settings -> about -> reset your phone
2- then the phone reset and after the MALGRD screeen push VOL UP and VOL DOWN
to appears the screen when you press the VOLUP to eraser all data and recovery the phone in factory status.
3- after this the phone start with the SD clear.
my phone don't freeze more after this steps.
So my HD2 freezes constantly. I don't have the unlock freezing issue nor the black screen freezing issue. My phone will just freeze quite constantly. Doesn't matter if I'm just doing a message, online, or it's just sitting there doing nothing. It will freeze and will have to remove the battery and restart it. I've reinstalled MAGLDR, CWM, and tried several ROMS and it still doesn't make a difference. I remove the battery and have to let it cool for around an hour just to turn it on and be able to use it for a period of time.
Any suggestions out there? Could the battery be bad? The hardware? I constantly use Task Killer and Data Eraser to make sure there aren't unnecessary programs running. I've narrowed my app collection to just the necessary ones that I need. Still doesn't make a difference. Any programs out there that would help with this issue in any way. Would repartitioning my SD card help at all. I have pretty much everything on my SD card as well so the hardware shouldn't be overloaded at all.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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LOADS of people are having this problem including myself.
As long as Mobile Data and Gps are OFF, I have no freezing issues.
BUT, if I turn on Mobile date or Gps, or both, then GAME OVER.....it freezes within seconds.
It's not your battery, or SD card and don't listen to the muppets who repeat themselves by saying "do a task29" coz it doesn't work.
I've tried 5 different SD card, got 2 hd2's, task29, over 100 roms, different radios etc etc.
Never used to happen on SD builds, only Nand.
if i had the cash, i'd smash my hd2 against the wall and get a Android native phone.
this aint ever gonna be solved.
matt
freeridindirtbiker said:
So my HD2 freezes constantly. I don't have the unlock freezing issue nor the black screen freezing issue. My phone will just freeze quite constantly. Doesn't matter if I'm just doing a message, online, or it's just sitting there doing nothing. It will freeze and will have to remove the battery and restart it. I've reinstalled MAGLDR, CWM, and tried several ROMS and it still doesn't make a difference. I remove the battery and have to let it cool for around an hour just to turn it on and be able to use it for a period of time.
Any suggestions out there? Could the battery be bad? The hardware? I constantly use Task Killer and Data Eraser to make sure there aren't unnecessary programs running. I've narrowed my app collection to just the necessary ones that I need. Still doesn't make a difference. Any programs out there that would help with this issue in any way. Would repartitioning my SD card help at all. I have pretty much everything on my SD card as well so the hardware shouldn't be overloaded at all.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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Hi,
It might be worth trying to flash an original ROM and seeing if the same thing occurs in WinMo.
Have you properly formatted card? (overwrite with size adjustment)
Which rom are you using?
Does it do it on multiple roms?
Have you done a task29?
have you tried a different radio version?
TheATHEiST said:
Have you properly formatted card? (overwrite with size adjustment)
Which rom are you using?
Does it do it on multiple roms?
Have you done a task29?
have you tried a different radio version?
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I've tried all those things. I'm using the Nexus 2 Gingerbread ROM by tytung. I've tried winmo roms, android, etc. I've done task 29 several times. Different radios as well. It doesn't make a difference at all. I found a thread that might be the culmination of it all. If anyone else is having problems like I am, take a look at this thread. It's definitely the motherboard overheating and freezing/and or shutting itself off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982454
Luckily, I pay insurance through t-mobile so I will be picking up a new HD2 pretty soon.
I had a similar problem, but mine came about under different circumstances. I smashed my HD2 against a wall for whatever personal reasons that you shouldn't care about, anyway, so I ordered a replacement display. When I installed the display the phone would freeze just as described by OP. I found that disabling GPS and WiFi allowed me to use it for a longer time, but if I ever so much as applied any pressure to the display (rather than just lightly touching it) the screen would freeze and sometimes it would just straight shut off until it didn't turn back on at all (this was barely the first day after installation). I opened the phone and tested, found out that the LCD flex cable had a defect to it where if it was bent (the position it's supposed to be in once the phone is assembled) the display would "short out" and with the cable fully extended no problems would be present, even after applying pressure to the display or any of the other internal components.
I'm sending my LCD back for a replacement and hopefully the new one will work fine. I've read that some LCD's cause the HD2 to freeze and I think I was unlucky enough to receive one such. I need the phone to hold on long enough until I get my contract renewal May 2012. I'm surviving on my Dream right now and I'm going through Angry Birds withdrawal...
Compatible-Bad Hardware-Insurance Questions
freeridindirtbiker said:
I've tried all those things. I'm using the Nexus 2 Gingerbread ROM by tytung. I've tried winmo roms, android, etc. I've done task 29 several times. Different radios as well. It doesn't make a difference at all. I found a thread that might be the culmination of it all. If anyone else is having problems like I am, take a look at this thread. It's definitely the motherboard overheating and freezing/and or shutting itself off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982454
Luckily, I pay insurance through t-mobile so I will be picking up a new HD2 pretty soon.
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I have similar issue. Could use advice. Please.
My HD2 is about a year old. Decided to try android on the sd.
Device: HTC HD2 TMOUSA
Radio: 2.10.50.26 (Original) NOW flashed to 2.15.50.14
SPL: 2.10.xxxx (Original) NOW HSLP 2.08.0000
Android Rom: SD AmeriCanAndroid AOSP HD2 GB234 CM71
WM Rom: 2.13.531.1 (Original)
ACA seemed ok but would freeze randomly. So I flashed the radio to the 50.14. Seemed a little better but still a few freezes in android. Thought I would try the partition to improve the sd card performance. can't tell if it helped or not to many freeze ups to use android during the day. NOW my winmo side it giving me random reboots. It gets hot reboots, especially bad if using gps. I know overheating is part of the issue because during the middle of the day in my car without A/C it is terrible.
I also have an OTTERBOX Defend which has kept the phone looking great but is a really pain with on all the battery removal with the freeze ups.
I have read that this can be a mainboard issue, but how can I tell if it is or not?
Could the radio and winmo rom be incompatible?
Should I flash the winmo rom to a more compatible android rom?
Should I send it in since I have TMO insurance? (Anyone know if there is a deductible if you didn't lose the phone?)
I have also noticed the on the winmo side it reboots less if I turn htc sense off.
Not sure if I should go back to a different radio or send it in?
Are the insurance replacements refurbished or new? do they have the same issue?
Thanks for any expertise you care to share.
Had similar problems with Tmous HD2. Problems were really bad in Winmo; aca worked somewhat better. Read forums, tried standard "solutions". With time the problems got to the point where the HD2 would not boot unless it had been placed in the refrigerator for 5 minutes.
Did T-Mobile warranty exchange in April. Replacement was refurb (arrives without battery or sd card, used old one), but looked fine. Had a week to test "new" phone, before sending the old one back. Replacment phone works much better. In Winmo, gps, videos, sense no longer cause reboots; aca also works great.
Hope this helps...
TheATHEiST said:
Have you properly formatted card? (overwrite with size adjustment)
Which rom are you using?
Does it do it on multiple roms?
Have you done a task29?
have you tried a different radio version?
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Exactly as my post from a few days ago predicted..."task 29"
FFS.
Hello,
I recently bought a HTC HD 2 Tmobile from ebay .
The phone will not boot up.
When i start up the phone it leads me to the windows start up to the tmobile start up then back to the windows start up and stays there and i cannot do anything except take out the battery.
Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
Sounds like you are stuck in a boot loop. There is a few things you can try.
First check the battery pins and make sure you do not have any that are bent out of alignment with the others or that is being hindered in anyway.
Next you can download the official Windows Mobile ROM from T-Mobile. You will have to enter the IMEI number, look under the battery for it. Once downloaded you can try to flash it via USB. Just put your HD2 into the bootloader by holding down the volume down button while powering on your HD2 and then connect it to your computer via USB cable. You will have to have Windows Mobile Device Center or Active Sync installed on your computer so you can get the USB Sync connection you need. Go to here to find a link to both, just choose the one you need for the type of windows you use. Anyway once you have your HD2 in bootloader and connected the serial in the bottom white bar of bootloader should change to USB, this means you have the USB Sync connection. When you see the USB you can right click on the ROM you downloaded from T-Mobile and run it as administrator. I do suggest you let your HD2 stay off and charge for a little while first though to make sure you have more than a 50% charge.
If that does not work you can try running a Task 29 and then repeating the above mentioned steps to flash the ROM again.
If this does not fix your problem you probably have hardware issues causing the boot loop.
Thank you so much for the reply. I will try the things you have listed. Even though i am a bit lost haha. If these steps dont work , what are some of the hardware issues that may be the cause of this? And i know this is random but can you help me load android onto my hd2? I have 2 2gb micro sd cards do i have to get a bigger card? Which android os would you recommend? Thats quick and smooth? Thx!
H0n3yb43 said:
Thank you so much for the reply. I will try the things you have listed. Even though i am a bit lost haha. If these steps dont work , what are some of the hardware issues that may be the cause of this? And i know this is random but can you help me load android onto my hd2? I have 2 2gb micro sd cards do i have to get a bigger card? Which android os would you recommend? Thats quick and smooth? Thx!
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the hardware issue would be overheating cpu, have to get a new main board via HTC warranty (if it is not voided due to water damage or dropped).
Android is easy to load. Fast/smooth you want a CyanogenMod7 ROM, you can find versions for SD or versions that you flash on the phone itself. You can either run Windows Mobile 6.5 then laucnch Android from SD (dual-boot), launch Android from SD with no Windows Mobile, launch Android flashed from internal storage, or flash Windows Phone 7 to internal storage and run Android from SD (dual-boot).
The tutorials are all in the HD2 Android forums and HD2 WP7 forums.
initially I would try a hard reset before getting too technical.
hold down volume up and down and switch on. keep holding volume buttons, when prompted press volume up. this will restore to out of he box settings ie remove all previous data on the phone.
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H0n3yb43 said:
Thank you so much for the reply. I will try the things you have listed. Even though i am a bit lost haha. If these steps dont work , what are some of the hardware issues that may be the cause of this? And i know this is random but can you help me load android onto my hd2? I have 2 2gb micro sd cards do i have to get a bigger card? Which android os would you recommend? Thats quick and smooth? Thx!
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As far as hardware issues go it is like XDA member orangekid said overheating is the predominant reason that comes to mind. Another thing is degraded prossesor connection or degradated flash/NAND chip connections. All of witch can only be fixed by main board replacement.
Yes I can help you "load" Android onto your HD2, just click the guide link ed in my Sig. I think everything you need to know is there. well except how to run Android fro SD card, hmmm maybe I should add that. Also you can go here for more links to very useful threads in the Android General Stickie Roll up thread.
Again I have to agree with XDA member orangekid, the CyanogenMod7 ROMs are pretty creaking awesome. But I do recomend the Hyperdroid ROM I have linked in my Sig. I have used it for my daily driver for months and the only real problem I have had is the latest update to the ROM the new updated market would not work properly I would have to go to Settings/Applications/Manage Applications. Then find the market selerct it and then select Uninstall Updates. Oh and make sure you do not have the check box checked to aromatic update the market or you will have to do this everytime you use the market. I am currently testing the [17 Aug][SENSE3.0] Pyramid HTC WWE 1.35.401.1 - Real 3D [V2.1][RAF 1.9GB] ROM to sort of test the HTC Sensation's ROM and to check out HTC Sense 3.0.
As for your 2gig SD card no it will work but I do recomend you consider getting a 4 gig SD card. I have heard mixed results from 2 gig SD cards that people use to dual boot with. I personally have never used under a 4 gig SD card and have never had any trouble.
Thank you all for your replies.
I will Try out all the steps to fix my phone first. then i will try to load up android onto it and i will get back to you guys. i thanked all that have helped thank you so much. i will be back around sunday or monday with an update. wish me luck! oh one more question. would a 8gb be a good size micro sd card? or should i get a 16gb?
It really depends on how much space you'll think you'll need like, are you a person who takes a lot of pics or video, do you keep a lot of music on your phone? If you do then yes I would go with an 8gb. If not then you could really just use a 4gb sd card. I use a 8gb class 10 sd card myself and store a lot of pics, roms and backups and I haven't had the need to go back to a 16gb. Also you dont have to get a high speed card either, a class 4-6 is plenty.
If you decide to go the dual boot for Android I would look up a program found here on XDA called Rundroid. It will allow you to run many different Android builds from your sd card and is very simple to use. I would give the link but I'm not by a computer right now, sorry about that.
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Hiii just an update . i did try to hard reset and it does reset but after i reset when it reboots it stays on the tmobile stick together logo.
and i just noticed if i leave it on like this and leave the battery the phone starts to get warm a bit on the back bottom side of the phone.
i will try the steps you gave me and see if it works. thanks.
I tried to restore by volume down+up and power and it reset but no boot. Pleasse help any one. i tried to do the bootloader ( my computer doesnt reconize my phone) it shows me all these codes. any help?
Heres a vid of my phone if it helps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2qQsSXPx-s
I dont want to comment on something and be wrong so with that I would take it to t-mobile and see if you can have it switched out under your warranty. I had a very similiar problem that it was stuck on the HTC/T-mobile splash screen and I sent mine in for repair through HTC. They fixed the issue and sent it back (for free), all I had to pay was shipping there. They do say that if they find something thats not covered under warranty like water damage/not the proper software they'll call and let you know if there will be a charge to fix it.
I will say that my bootloader and probabaly everyone elses dont look like yours. Just above the spl-2.08 mine says pb81120..also mine says Cotullahspl where yours does not. If you dont find what your looking for here on the site best bet is to send it in for repair. Even if T-mobile says you didn't buy the warranty or what ever you still may be covered through HTC. This also will apply even if you bought the phone used.
HTC repair can be found here.
were you not holding the volume down button when you turned on the phone?
I would just download/flash stock from that bootloader screen.
I was holdin the vol down and power and i bought it on ebay so.. idk if i have warenty.
Even if you bought the phone on ebay you still could have a warranty. In post 12 I linked HTC repair. If you call them you could find out if you do have a warranty on it or not. They'll ask if for the imei# and run it. Im not sure if its a two year or one year on the warranty but they'll be able to tell you that.
I bought a used HD2 on ebay as well. Mine was listed as broke and was stuck on the T-mobile splash screen. I asked for the imei# from the seller and then called HTC to find out if it still had a warranty which it did, so i bought it. I lucked out that my phone was covered under warranty, you may or may not have the same luck as i had.
Thank i did what you told me and they gave me a new motherboard on mine. Thanks alot
Ok guys, I need your help. I picked up a T-Mobile HD2 from a friend for $40 who said "it won't boot". Being the experience Android user that I am I decided to give it a try, but I am at my wits end. Here is the sitch:
1. The phone is stuck at the "Stick Together" screen.
2. The bootload WORKS, to a point. It sometimes give a black screen when connected to the computer and a flashing tool is polling the USB.
3. I can flash all different WinMO roms from the bootloader, even HSPL, but still no boot.
4. Sometimes, when the ROM and SPL info come up in the bottom left, the phone will chug at the boot logo for a second, then strange graphical glitches start to appear on the screen. Similar to flashing an i9100 kernel on captivate, but not exactly.
This phone is a hackers dream, or more specifically my dream phone. Please help me get it back to working. I am not stingy; if there person who can get this to work and has a donation link... well... you know.
I have already:
Flashed the ship rom.
Used Task29
Flashed the current TMO rom.
Installed MAGLDR -> bootloader cannot make it to MAGLDR, even holding button.
EDIT: I also can't get it to recognize or flash roms from the SD card. All I have is a 4GB SDHC.
i can't figure out for sure if it's hardware or software that's been failing you. Since i'm more experienced with hardware i'll try to figure out a cause should the problem turn out to be hardware based after all.
1. nand memory corruption. the nand memory is made out of individual memory blocks, linked in a matrix mode and controlled by a memory ...controller (pretty logical i guess ). NAND memory is organized at a logical level in a way very similar to the classical electromagnetic drives (normal hdd's). I mean, blocks, sectors etc. If a memory sector gets damaged, it will produce something called a "bad" memory block. Again, similar to HDD's. But, different to HDD's where you can remap the memory regions and isolate bad blocks, you cannot do this to a flash chip inside a phone. At least not using standard tools or software. These tests are made only once by the manufacturer when the motherboard itself is being build. So, if your nand memory get's corrupted the phone itself won't "know" it since the individual damaged blocks can't be "marked" as damaged for the software to see and avoid placing data over there.
What happens is that you flash a rom, it may complete to 100% and from the bootloader "point of view" data was written over the flash memory. But when you attempt reading data from the damaged sectors, you'll get either nothing or corrupted readings. A more worse situation is when the boadloader itself resides over the damaged memory areas. If this is the case, even bootloader operations will behave erratic - bootloader lock-ups, freezes, strange screens etc.
I've seen phones with similar behavior that will react just like that. Sometime you can flash them, sometime not and when you flash them, they will stick to some random screen or simply freeze since the OS loading process halted with some random error when the corrupted data was read. I only managed to fix this by means of JTAG, a pretty low level debugging tool that requires a direct interface between the cpu and a pc. A memory diagnostic is loaded into the RAM memory and executes from there, it's purpose being to remap the NAND memory. It cannot be done from inside the NAND memory itself just like you cannot simply format the windows drive on a pc, while still being logged in on windows.
But, it's nasty business, service center kind of business.
2. CPU I/O failure. If you look into my signature here on xda, you'll find a link about hd2's cpu and overheating. That problem can in turn cause your problems - also saw this kind of stuff happening to a hd2. In fact is easier to determine if this is the cause. While i won't repeat myself again about how heat cause dilatation in the chip's soldering and how this affects the cpu operations, you can try a simple test. Place a sd card with some rom on it in the phone then place the phone in a bag, then place the bag in the fridge for about an hour. After that (while still keeping the phone in the bag and in the fridge interior) power on the phone, go to the bootloader and try to flash the rom from the sd card. Let the phone in the fridge during flashing and after it restarts. If you can't load a rom from the sd card, try using usb, the ideea is that the phone must remain as cold as possible during the whole process. Check to see if you notice any improvements - phone booting up, different errors or something different in any way from what you noticed so far. If this is the case, that topic from my signature would describe your problem in more detail. If not, we need to look further.
These should be my main suspects. Try to check #2 and reply with some results.
First of all, thank you for the information. I am actually very experienced reflowing PS3 and Xbox 360's, so I will try the refrigerator experiment, and if that succeeds I will disassemble the phone and reflow it in my reflow station. I find (seriously, not joking) that a reflow and (after cooling) a good 10 minutes in the oven on "warm" gets everything nice and settled.
Do you know if they used lead-free solder in the HD2? I'm not sure if phones also fall under RoHS.
yep, i think it's lead free, can't say for sure. But by the way it reacts to heat.. it seems so.
If you try the fridge/freezer, try to get the hd2 as cold as possible while preventing any condensation occurring on it - those transparent zip bags can help, that's what i use for example.
I had the EXACT same problem for a version that I bought off from a NY store (jr.com), it was a t-mobile version, tried everything, just to return it after 8 hours of my purchase.
Looking again for buying another hd2.
EDIT: looking online for hours and hours in vain, I concluded that it was a hardware issue due to some versions of the hd2 as someone explained earlier here.
I reflowed the motherboard and the phone now works.
I think its official, the"Stick Together" screen is the new RROD / YLOD.
good to hear. my hd2 was broken in the same way as yours. fixed it the same way, works as good as new even now.
Well, at least you know what to do if it happens again
I have a really weird problem going on with my HD2.
I've been using it for months normally, but just recently my battery drained to 0%.
I had to buy an external battery charger to get the phone running again, but now something even weirder's happening.
I'll have service for maybe, 5 minutes after flashing a ROM, but I can't send/receive calls/SMS/data.
After that, no service at all.
I tried task29/4 different ROMs, and reflashing the radio. What's next?
happened to me once, i placed the SIM card in reversed lol
anyways, which radio did you use? have you tried those SD ROM versions?
if that continuous it could be an impending board failure
mengfei said:
happened to me once, i placed the SIM card in reversed lol
anyways, which radio did you use? have you tried those SD ROM versions?
if that continuous it could be an impending board failure
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I actually just checked now that you mentioned it... :roll eyes:
Anyway, I flashed 2.15.50.14. for TMOUS.
I haven't tried an SD ROM, I'm using NAND.
I don't know what's going on, and damn it - I can't dish out another $300 for a phone!
if you have magldr you could just drop an SD ROM in the SD & boot it from there
i have the same problem man, look at my post here, i didn't found any solution yet :s i even flashed a stock rom (6.5) but nothing
I have a very clear prediction it's the hardware antenna busted. Getting rid of it, FAST