Anyone tried that?
I guess it won't cause any problem but I don't want to risk it///
Unless I could get a new 1 if I brick mine.
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Anyone tried that?
I guess it won't cause any problem but I don't want to risk it///
Unless I could get a new 1 if I brick mine.
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I doubt if there is Bell SBF if you end up bricking your device. So I dont think anyone tried it, you could be the first one
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I doubt if there is Bell SBF if you end up bricking your device. So I dont think anyone tried it, you could be the first one
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but with milestone, we could flashing any sbf and the phone still function except losing 3G with different bands.
ATT and bell on the same band of 850/1900.
I was about to comment on that fact in another thread. Yes, for the milestone the sbf files were universal (minus the bands which could be updated easily). If you're within your return period and would like to be a hero for many bell atrix users you could test this out lol.
Really?!
freefrank said:
Anyone tried that?
I guess it won't cause any problem but I don't want to risk it///
Unless I could get a new 1 if I brick mine.
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Why would you try that??? Would be much smarter just waiting for a BELL sbf file...
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Why would you try that??? Would be much smarter just waiting for a BELL sbf file...
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Seriously, what are the chances of getting one of these??
danboard said:
I was about to comment on that fact in another thread. Yes, for the milestone the sbf files were universal (minus the bands which could be updated easily). If you're within your return period and would like to be a hero for many bell atrix users you could test this out lol.
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ive just bricked my atrix. not for flashing sbfs. Now im waiting for the new 1 incoming. When it comes, ill definitely try that out.
I am one of the first ppls who tried flash milestone sbfs from other regions b4 telus sbf came out lolol
freefrank said:
ive just bricked my atrix. not for flashing sbfs. Now im waiting for the new 1 incoming. When it comes, ill definitely try that out.
I am one of the first ppls who tried flash milestone sbfs from other regions b4 telus sbf came out lolol
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So you bricked your device - sent it back to get another - and when you get it will try flashing an ATT sbf on a Bell phone??? *facepalm* wow....
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So you bricked your device - sent it back to get another - and when you get it will try flashing an ATT sbf on a Bell phone??? *facepalm* wow....
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No need to be a **** head. At least he's willing to help out the Bell Atrix community
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Why would you try that??? Would be much smarter just waiting for a BELL sbf file...
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Much smarter...
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i do believe the bell software is less restrictive than the att software.
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No need to be a **** head. At least he's willing to help out the Bell Atrix community
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Excuse me - but being a '**** head' is bricking a phone and returning it for another one when YOU are the one who screwed it up.... Then planning on trying to flash an sbf file from a DIFFERENT carrier for no reason other than to 'see if it works' - thats just plain STUPID.
I hope motorola loses a truck load of money from the bootloader and bricked phones. **** I feel like bricking mine just for that purpose
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Excuse me - but being a '**** head' is bricking a phone and returning it for another one when YOU are the one who screwed it up.... Then planning on trying to flash an sbf file from a DIFFERENT carrier for no reason other than to 'see if it works' - thats just plain STUPID.
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One could make the argument that building a high end phone with an open source os that promotes tinkering, and then locking the bootloader is just plain stupid. Or they account for the fact people will brick and return a certain number of them.
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Excuse me - but being a '**** head' is bricking a phone and returning it for another one when YOU are the one who screwed it up.... Then planning on trying to flash an sbf file from a DIFFERENT carrier for no reason other than to 'see if it works' - thats just plain STUPID.
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You work for Motorola don't ya
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Excuse me - but being a '**** head' is bricking a phone and returning it for another one when YOU are the one who screwed it up.... Then planning on trying to flash an sbf file from a DIFFERENT carrier for no reason other than to 'see if it works' - thats just plain STUPID.
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I return the phone to Bell, which is the carrier who is responsible for my phone ,which has nothing to do with motorola.
And Bell promised that whatever happen to my phone, they will get me a new one.
it bricks it. I did it. don't do it lol
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Excuse me - but being a '**** head' is bricking a phone and returning it for another one when YOU are the one who screwed it up.... Then planning on trying to flash an sbf file from a DIFFERENT carrier for no reason other than to 'see if it works' - thats just plain STUPID.
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lol, WHO CARES... Bell and Motorola are million dollar companies which are fully capable of replacing a phone that probably cost them no more than $50. If he is still within his warranty, I say go for it. It gives the XDA community more insight as to how these devices work.
Bugger off now...
Before you tell people to bugger off, you might want to read through some of these threads that have talked about it, the reason why its not a recommended move is because people have bricked their devices trying it already. Not sure what insight we gain from this attempt (unless someone is planning to tinker with the sbf in hopes to make it work for bell devices). in other words we know the stove is hot because some have burned themselves on it already. no sense on touching that stove.
If its to simply lash out at the rich company we gave money to when we either knew or didn't research enough about this locked bootloader, well if it makes you feel better....
Outside of that, some patience is needed here. Heck if the x10 could be unlocked (a device that received far less love than the atrix from the community due to it releasing with 1.6 and then originally telling everyone no updates past eclair. Then there is hope.
for our sakes I just hope it happens in less time.
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lol, WHO CARES... Bell and Motorola are million dollar companies which are fully capable of replacing a phone that probably cost them no more than $50. If he is still within his warranty, I say go for it. It gives the XDA community more insight as to how these devices work.
Bugger off now...
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Who Cares???? Seriously?? Are you really that dumb???? Dont you understand that even though they may be multi million/billion $$$ companies - it still costs them money - which in turn causes higher prices for US - the end user...... Doing stupid **** like this only bricks phones....Costs them money - which they get back out of us by raising costs of devices and services.... Get a brain dude.
cheetah2k said:
You work for Motorola don't ya
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hell nooooo i don't!!!!
Related
Hey guys, I was wondering if the new Verizon Wireless phone (the Eris) is actually their HTC Hero.
They claim it's a seperate model (HTC Desire.) Either way I was curious what was needed to get ROMs going for it. Any help is greatly appreciated.
hobbiteer said:
Hey guys, I was wondering if the new Verizon Wireless phone (the Eris) is actually their HTC Hero.
They claim it's a seperate model (HTC Desire.) Either way I was curious what was needed to get ROMs going for it. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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I may be out of date, but I thought the Eris wasn't rooted yet (which is is a prereq for getting ROM's installed on it).
The Eris, Cellular South, and most other versions of the phone had patched the vulnerability that Sprint had left in the phone and so it's not quite as easy currently.
It hasn't been rooted yet, and there is little to no enthusiasm to get it rooted. It may be a while before we get those custom Roms.
Well that's kinda sad. Is there any particular reason? I mean I don't own one but I am just curious. Is it just that its not seen as a demand for it or something like that?
Exactly, all just a numbers game. The vzw Eris will get rooted someday though, it might even be by you
It's a combination of lack of enthusiastic developers and the fact that the asroot2 exploit that works for the Sprint Hero has been patched. So... Haha. I have one and I've been desperately looking around for a way to root. I don't think enough people are buying it to generate enough enthusiasm to get people to really want to develop
tstack77 said:
Exactly, all just a numbers game. The vzw Eris will get rooted someday though, it might even be by you
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Yep. may also help if I owned one. I still use my trusty awesome G1 and see no real reason to change. But I was debating "fixing" the eris. However I have quite a bit to learn in order to do so. And with the upcoming software patch for it I may want to wait. But thank you for clarifing. I really do appreciate it. If others would like it or like help with it I figure I am more than willing to go at it.
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It's a combination of lack of enthusiastic developers and the fact that the asroot2 exploit that works for the Sprint Hero has been patched. So... Haha. I have one and I've been desperately looking around for a way to root. I don't think enough people are buying it to generate enough enthusiasm to get people to really want to develop
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Yeah I could see that. As the Eris is up against the Moto Sholes I can see why not many people are. Getting one.
Actually, I've read that more people are buying the Droid Eris. They'll come in wanting the Droid and leave with the Eris.
Well it's partly a numbers game but it's partly a "starting from ground zero" timeframe thing. GSM Heros were the first out and they took a certain amount of time to become rooted...then came the CDMA Heros who needed a different way to root and it took a few weeks to get to there as well.
So...while it may or may not take longer, it will probably be around the same amount of time from release-ish before something shows up (or we get lucky with a new shiney kernel exploit to elevate priviledges...)
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So...while it may or may not take longer, it will probably be around the same amount of time from release-ish before something shows up (or we get lucky with a new shiney kernel exploit to elevate priviledges...)
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I disagree. We could be sitting for a while before anything happens. No known exploits, I don't think many people who would develop are rushing out to get one. It'll happen eventually, but it in my opinion, we'll be sitting tight for a while. Not that any of us can complain if we can't find one ourselves, haha.
What about using the Sprint Stock RUU for the Hero to load the original Sprint ROM on it and then rooting it? Subsequently, you could go back to a custom Eris ROM or something of the sort. I don't know if the Hero RUU would work on the Eris though.
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Yeah I could see that. As the Eris is up against the Moto Sholes I can see why not many people are. Getting one.
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I've been reading the Howard Forums and getting the impression that folks are more impressed with the Eris as opposed to the boxy and un-sexy Driod. I knew I was buying the Droid Eris before I called VZW. I am just GLAD to finally be rid of T-Mo after 7 years of service. While they were good for a while, their customer service started to really piss me off lately. There's also the fact that they really didn't train their PDA reps on Android before they released the phones. And the lack of 3G in most of the country was a killer! Now, if someone would like to root this bad boy. I would be most grateful.
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What about using the Sprint Stock RUU for the Hero to load the original Sprint ROM on it and then rooting it? Subsequently, you could go back to a custom Eris ROM or something of the sort. I don't know if the Hero RUU would work on the Eris though.
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Even if it did work, then you have you'd have the Sprint Rom, not the Verizon Rom. Not sure if it's a good idea or not...
chicojd said:
Now, if someone would like to root this bad boy. I would be most grateful.
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Haha. You and me both. If you're really interested, look around and see if you can help the cause.
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What about using the Sprint Stock RUU for the Hero to load the original Sprint ROM on it and then rooting it? Subsequently, you could go back to a custom Eris ROM or something of the sort. I don't know if the Hero RUU would work on the Eris though.
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I would try it if someone has the stock VZW ruu to flash back to in case it does not work.
Is there anyway to get the RUU? I mean, what are the logistics involved there?
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Is there anyway to get the RUU? I mean, what are the logistics involved there?
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It's up to VZW or HTC to post it, unless someone on the inside leaks a copy for us.... hint hint... anyone have a copy they want to share with us?
just wondering. I have a sprint hero. but you VZW people shouldn't wait too long, cause i think the droid has the same kernel version as the eris, so when they find an exploit in the droid, to get root you VZW people should be able to use the same exploit. now if the droid's bootloader gets hacked then yeah, you'll probably have to wait.
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It's up to VZW or HTC to post it, unless someone on the inside leaks a copy for us.... hint hint... anyone have a copy they want to share with us?
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Haha. Wishful thinking, but I'm right there with you. I can't believe they patched the asroot2 exploit.
Ive been flashing my htc phones for a long time now, but im new to android and the rooting process... Im trying to learn more and help with the Eris if possible, but I have a simple question. Is the only way to root the Eris, to get the original RUU?
I have the Eris now, and if I can do anything else I would be willing to do so!
Hello everybidy as Froyo is just gona Release it will take ages for HTC to upgrade our Incredible and also we are missing on rooted OS.
The only solution to the date is asking HTC for Nexus One type SPL and which is perfectly as far as Legality and After Sale Service Issue is concerned as you Unlock SPL Warrenty is void.
Lets ask HTC to allot us new SPL like Nexus One which Support
Code:
fastboot oem unlock
so we then flash the .img file directly and Enjoy Incredible to the fullest
Ask HTC over
http://facebook.com/htc
and
http://twitter.com/htc
http://twitter.com/VerizonWireless
let us know how you make out with that...
jrebeiro said:
let us know how you make out with that...
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Don't be cynical, anything's possible..
See my Previous Efforts of the same
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3005712&postcount=9
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2931428&postcount=25
and Finally this one
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1266
They're not going to do this because it will cost them money when people brick their devices and then return or warranty them.
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They're not going to do this because it will cost them money when people brick their devices and then return or warranty them.
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Not if they include a disclaimer voiding the warranty in the case of a complete brick.
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Not if they include a disclaimer voiding the warranty in the case of a complete brick.
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You mean like the disclaimers in every custom rom thread, where people still manage to brick their phones, and then talk about taking them back to the store for a new one?
HTC doesn't even release legally-obligated kernel sources on time half the time, if you think they're going to go an extra step beyond that you're dreaming.
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You mean like the disclaimers in every custom rom thread, where people still manage to brick their phones, and then talk about taking them back to the store for a new one?
HTC doesn't even release legally-obligated kernel sources on time half the time, if you think they're going to go an extra step beyond that you're dreaming.
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I believe they're talking about the disclaimer that you get when you unlock a nexus one. HTC will refuse to warranty most nexus ones if the bootloader is unlocked.... and thats the risk im willing to take
But you have to remember that Verizon will get say in that as well and they do not like people messing with their stuff. It's a long shot....
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Actually, I already have the cdma nexus one hboot. But it's useless to us until we can flash to start. The version is pretty far from the HTC one as well so it's useless in our attempts. Stay patient.
Not to be a total retard, but is Froyo just a codename for Flash integration, or is it like an entire OS upgrade for the Android? Why would you say it would be ages until the HTC Incredible gets updated?
Sorry if that's a dumb question.
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Not to be a total retard, but is Froyo just a codename for Flash integration, or is it like an entire OS upgrade for the Android? Why would you say it would be ages until the HTC Incredible gets updated?
Sorry if that's a dumb question.
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It's an entire upgrade for andriod, well from 2.1 to 2.2, but some good changes. HTC has to go through a ton of testing phases before releasing an upgrade so it usually takes them awhile and no question is a dumb question
I work for the mobile industry and have worked for the computer industry for years, and have never been one to believe the talk about obsolete devices soon after you buy them. It angers me that this incredible is my first Android and I can't root it like my friends who have the Droid and Nexus One, Dream, etc.
I'm almost tempted to take it back and get a diff android, but this damn phone is so cool.
Hey OP while were at it why dont we ask htc for a bigger screen too, heck maybe they can turn our phones into EVO's........ J/K
it will happen in time gotta patient
RLKirk said:
It's an entire upgrade for andriod, well from 2.1 to 2.2, but some good changes. HTC has to go through a ton of testing phases before releasing an upgrade so it usually takes them awhile and no question is a dumb question
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After getting used to how everyone acted on the G1 forums, you are my nominee for most helpful XDA user, simply by stating "no question is a dumb question "
dephtones said:
I work for the mobile industry and have worked for the computer industry for years, and have never been one to believe the talk about obsolete devices soon after you buy them. It angers me that this incredible is my first Android and I can't root it like my friends who have the Droid and Nexus One, Dream, etc.
I'm almost tempted to take it back and get a diff android, but this damn phone is so cool.
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Root will happen. As is, this phone is far from obsolete. 2.2 still needs to be released on an actual device before its mature enough for daily use. Trust me, I went to 2.1 way too early on my last device and it sucked. Then 2.1 devices came out and all of the sudden it was good enough for daily use.
Start Shouting at this Accounts for Incredible root
http://twitter.com/htc
http://twitter.com/VerizonWireless
There is no way verizon will ever help with the incredible root, it enables things that verizon want locked on the phone, such as tethering. I'm all for optimism, but lets not forget reality.
morkon said:
There is no way verizon will ever help with the incredible root, it enables things that verizon want locked on the phone, such as tethering. I'm all for optimism, but lets not forget reality.
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I agree. Not only does it enable things VZW disabled intentionally but it increases the chances for issues that can lead to unsatified customers and returns.
HTC probably wouldn't want to go against their customer who is VZW not us. We buy from VZW not HTC.
We just have to trust in our developer community and hope they are able to accomplish root in the near future. I believe every HTC Android device has been rooted in the past so why would the Incredible be any different.
I remember reading an artible about how the G1 would never be able to be upgraded to 1.6 and devs got that phone running 2.1 so I am hopeful
My wife has been nagging me to root and rom up her Fascinate for a while now after seeing me spend hours playing with different roms and mods on my Incredible. She got bored and tried to flash something and "bricked" her phone. Uuhhg guess who gets to fix it? I want to thank you all for the easy to follow directions, I was able to get her on DL09 after following the great guides posted in the forum. Man this phone is a little more tricky than my dInc, but I am in LOVE with the big screen!! Once again, thank you all, my wife finally is happier and stopped nagging me!
Congrats man, thats good to hear. The phone's not really that difficult to mess around with though
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Congrats man, thats good to hear. The phone's not really that difficult to mess around with though
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I'm just use to my phone I guess Odin had me a little nervous (hooking up with the battery pulled and all) but given a little time I'll probably be allot more comfortable with it (until the wife gets bored again).
Just keep in mind that as long as you don't flash anything with the Phone button in ODIN, it's almost impossible to actually brick this phone. Even then it's not technically a brick, as you can still make it bootable; the cellular radio just won't work anymore.
Can we trade wives?
tyler1234567 said:
Can we trade wives?
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I'll let you know as soon as she breaks something else I have to fix
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Just keep in mind that as long as you don't flash anything with the Phone button in ODIN, it's almost impossible to actually brick this phone. Even then it's not technically a brick, as you can still make it bootable; the cellular radio just won't work anymore.
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I was wondering about that; glad I'm good at following directions. Thanks for taming my curiosity on the other buttons
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Just keep in mind that as long as you don't flash anything with the Phone button in ODIN, it's almost impossible to actually brick this phone. Even then it's not technically a brick, as you can still make it bootable; the cellular radio just won't work anymore.
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Thanks for the info!
Awesome, my wife hates my phone. She can't stand hearing about roms and kernels.. I understand why but that just sucks
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I'll let you know as soon as she breaks something else I have to fix
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Well, i just found out about two things. People including our own designgears have the stock SBF file http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11952597#post11952597 but seems like they won't give it to us because they think someone will lose their job.
While we don't want anyone to lose their jobs, i don't think they can trace it back so i really don't understand dg's reasoning in this.
The second thing is that since dg is asking how to flash this thing, i'm guessing he has his atrix (or another atrix) back, since his first motivation in returning it was the lack of the sbf in order to unbrick his device.
DG how about you ask your source for his opinion? Does he really think he can get traced to you? If not, i would guess it would be ok with him to leak this to us.
It's only right to HONOR the source's request. You don't like it? Go find a Motorola contact.
If you think that companies like Moto cant digitally sign software. Oh wait whats that boot loader issue again?
franciscojavierleon said:
Well, i just found out about two things. People including our own designgears have the stock SBF file http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11952597#post11952597 but seems like they won't give it to us because they think someone will lose their job.
While we don't want anyone to lose their jobs, i don't think they can trace it back so i really don't understand dg's reasoning in this.
The second thing is that since dg is asking how to flash this thing, i'm guessing he has his atrix (or another atrix) back, since his first motivation in returning it was the lack of the sbf in order to unbrick his device.
DG how about you ask your source for his opinion? Does he really think he can get traced to you? If not, i would guess it would be ok with him to leak this to us.
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Its clearly stated in the thread, the source does not want the file given out. Mods can we please close this thread before it starts a war over a file thats not being released.
I understand the source wants it kept on the DL... But why even bother giving it out at that point?
That's like someone saying here's a free lambo, but the catch is you can't take it out of the garage so I don't get in trouble.
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I understand the source wants it kept on the DL... But why even bother giving it out at that point?
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Because the Atrix isn't accepting the file through RSD, xoom uses a similar chipset. So hes asking the Xoom devs for help making RSD work. Hes not flaunting hey I got the sbf and you don't.
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Because the Atrix isn't accepting the file through RSD, xoom uses a similar chipset. So hes asking the Xoom devs for help making RSD work. Hes not flaunting hey I got the smf and you don't.
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Oh no I understand DG isn't being an ass or anything, I was just curious.
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Oh no I understand DG isn't being an ass or anything, I was just curious.
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I can promise you, if anything comes out of this. DG will give out all the info he can.
well of course i don't mean to start a war but yes i am curious i thought any sbf file would work with rsd lite and when i started the thread i didn't see an indication that the file didn't work right now. Rather, i was happy because it looks like dg got an atrix back (he even said in another topic that he tested debian on the atrix)
I would understand if the file hasn't been leaked because it didn't work, although dg isn't the only dev and maybe the other guys can make something about it, but the file can't get traced back to the original insider.
Probably just need the right version of RSD lite
sorry i am not a dev i am just curious on dev, what is the significance of a SBF file? is that equalivent of an OS of a pc? where we can wipe the pc clean and load os at will?
it lets you reload your stock os if the phone gets bricked so hard and adb cannot be used. it's basically the #1 reason of why dg returned his phone, because he had the risk to brick his phone and couldn't go back to stock. it seems that he has his phone back which is very nice for us.
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it lets you reload your stock os if the phone gets bricked so hard and adb cannot be used. it's basically the #1 reason of why dg returned his phone, because he had the risk to brick his phone and couldn't go back to stock. it seems that he has his phone back which is very nice for us.
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If you have the SBF and software to flash it, motorola phones become stupidly hard to actually brick. It saved me a couple times on my old backflip
The sbf will, from what I understand, give devs a better idea on how the bootloader works. Hopefully this takes them.one step closer to unlocking it.
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If it's true that DG has his Atrix back, then woot! At least he'll be able to dev much more safely, and won't go through 9999 devices.
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As DG is valued member of the developer community I imagine that someone more or less attempted to bribe him with it to keep his atrix and continue developing. This in no way is meant as a slight against his source or DG.
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As DG is valued member of the developer community I imagine that someone more or less attempted to bribe him with it to keep his atrix and continue developing. This in no way is meant as a slight against his source or DG.
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Yea, I could see someone giving him a bribe especially if they had a captivate before this (been running perception for a llllooonnggg time now). Although I respect the leeks wishes, I do think he/ she is maybe a tad paranoid. I'm sure enough people have access to this at moto that they couldn't trace it back with any amount of certainty.
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well of course i don't mean to start a war but yes i am curious i thought any sbf file would work with rsd lite and when i started the thread i didn't see an indication that the file didn't work right now. Rather, i was happy because it looks like dg got an atrix back (he even said in another topic that he tested debian on the atrix)
I would understand if the file hasn't been leaked because it didn't work, although dg isn't the only dev and maybe the other guys can make something about it, but the file can't get traced back to the original insider.
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franciscojavierleon said:
Well, i just found out about two things. People including our own designgears have the stock SBF file http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11952597#post11952597 but seems like they won't give it to us because they think someone will lose their job.
While we don't want anyone to lose their jobs, i don't think they can trace it back so i really don't understand dg's reasoning in this.
The second thing is that since dg is asking how to flash this thing, i'm guessing he has his atrix (or another atrix) back, since his first motivation in returning it was the lack of the sbf in order to unbrick his device.
DG how about you ask your source for his opinion? Does he really think he can get traced to you? If not, i would guess it would be ok with him to leak this to us.
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Yea, I could see someone giving him a bribe especially if they had a captivate before this (been running perception for a llllooonnggg time now). Although I respect the leeks wishes, I do think he/ she is maybe a tad paranoid. I'm sure enough people have access to this at moto that they couldn't trace it back with any amount of certainty.
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Wow, you guys seem to be pretty certain about something you know not much about then again it is not your job that is on the line here. I find it even more interesting that you think because many people have access to it that is difficult to trace. I can tell you from experience depending on the deployment method, you can trace this stuff to a particular machine and user. I personally do not know what motorola is doing but I am glad he is respecting the source wishes.
Back in WM days Microsoft was known for doing this stuff. Many time when you got an internal leaked build, you had to go through it to ensure there were no finger prints. You literaly had to scrub it to ensure traces were gone.
Thread Closed, any sub-sequential threads regarding this will also be closed in respect for DG and his source. Do not press this issue.
YAY!!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/16/...-devices-may-get-app-sideloading-as-early-as/
Not the atrix :/
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know what else brings it to the atrix?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016060
Techcruncher said:
YAY!!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/16/...-devices-may-get-app-sideloading-as-early-as/
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Why are you posting this in the Atrix forums???
Doesn't mention the Atrix anywhere!!!
People here are just so touchy o:
It states that the first three devices are the Captivate and those others, and says that "select" devices will receive the update. I see no good reason why the Atrix would not be a "select" device, being that it's still one of AT&T's major Android phones. Just be patient.
dLo GSR said:
know what else brings it to the atrix?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016060
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To that point, I have 0 3rd party apps that dont need rooting also anyway.
blindguyinanorgy said:
To that point, I have 0 3rd party apps that dont need rooting also anyway.
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well, if you want to enable sideloading right now, you have to root. =P
CaelanT said:
Why are you posting this in the Atrix forums???
Doesn't mention the Atrix anywhere!!!
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For pre-emptive complaining of course!
KefkaticFanatic said:
People here are just so touchy o:
It states that the first three devices are the Captivate and those others, and says that "select" devices will receive the update. I see no good reason why the Atrix would not be a "select" device, being that it's still one of AT&T's major Android phones. Just be patient.
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Not touchy. The OP is saying after reading this article that the Atrix is one of the phones. It is not mentioned anywhere in the article. Nobody is being touchy. People just need to stop posting "assumed" crap and post facts. Other people need to stop assuming that the assumptions are correct and posting not one iota of supporting evidence.
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In retrospect, you're probably right. Sorry about that. At least there's some news of hope on the horizon ^.^
I suggest rereading that immense topic and post totally a whopping 6 words. I don't see "Atrix" anywhere
He's simply sharing an article showing that AT&T is becoming more open, which may mean a future update for the Atrix, and, while a bit far fetched, potentially even hints at them allowing a bootloader unlock.
KefkaticFanatic said:
I suggest rereading that immense topic and post totally a whopping 6 words. I don't see "Atrix" anywhere
He's simply sharing an article showing that AT&T is becoming more open, which may mean a future update for the Atrix, and, while a bit far fetched, potentially even hints at them allowing a bootloader unlock.
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I was glad to see someone not let their anger at AT&T fly back at the OP so they update some of their older phones that are probably easier to do at this point. This is obviously a sign that they have realized they cant treat us like Apple does. If we really want open phones we can and will have them. So they are going to just give them too us open. It will probably cut down on warranty claims from stupid people doing shoddy jobs of rooting and flashing their phones. Im sure motorola wont leave us hanging theyve taken good care of me so far. so just be patient.
Why should I care if At&t enables side loading, we have a hack for it. Is At&t taking a page from Apple, "were adding something users already figured out how to do, we initiative!!"
sifon187 said:
Why should I care if At&t enables side loading, we have a hack for it. Is At&t taking a page from Apple, "were adding something users already figured out how to do, we initiative!!"
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Zing!
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I love hacking, Don't get me wrong, But I'm not going to risk being stuck on Froyo cause I deleted some important file, or have to panic about the sbf. official updates are official for a reason.
This thing cost me 250$... Not gonna risk it :S
Has anyone actually gotten the update via OTA on one of these devices?
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Has anyone actually gotten the update via OTA on one of these devices?
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I manually ran the OTA update for my wife's HTC Aria this morning. No joy. It just searched for what seemed like 10 minutes before I quit it.
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I love hacking, Don't get me wrong, But I'm not going to risk being stuck on Froyo cause I deleted some important file, or have to panic about the sbf. official updates are official for a reason.
This thing cost me 250$... Not gonna risk it :S
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Um, you can't get stuck on FroYo for rooting. If you deodex/install a P-ROM, you'll have to flash back to stock, however.
I haven't seen anyone get completely bricked by modding the Atrix. There's almost no risk if you understand what you're doing currently. It's not like the Captivate where you might get the black screen of death and have to make a jig.
Considering the extensive testing that AT&T requires before allowing firmware updates to be released, along with the fact that 4.1.83 was literally just released, its not surprising to see the Atrix not on the list.
I also agree with the bootloader thing, if AT&T was the reason it was locked, Motorola now has some incentive to unlock it. Not that they definitely would though, as other motorola devices on other carriers show.
UPDATE:
New article with word that the Atrix will be updated as well.