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[Q] n00b needs help bad!

First off, I am not sure if this is the right spot for this and I am sorry if it isn't. I am very (brand new) to winmo phones but i wanted to get away from my crackberry so i switched. Now that i have been playing around with it I would like to see what android is like on my hd2. However, i have no idea where to begin. I am still running on the stock rom 3.14.531.1 with radio 2.15.50.14. (dont really want an aftermarket rom) I do not want to brick my phone nor void my warranty with tmobile. I am looking for a step by step (and i mean every little step if possible) on how to dual boot winmo and froyo 2.2 and not brink this beautiful phone. Any links or insight as to where i can find a guide either on this site or elsewhere would be greatly appreciated. Please dont flame me too hard i have just spent hours upon hours of reading and trying to decipher how to do it to the point where im more confused than i was when i started.
what i have gathered so far is that i have to flash HSPL3(?) then flash a new radio (no idea) then load a froyo 2.2 rom on my sd card. Run CLdsomething and then HaRet. like i said im confused and i dont want to screw anything up. please help and thank you in advance

your in luck! theres a bunch of stickies with exactly what your looking for.... theres even youtube vid how to's...

You don't have to flash anything with that rom and radio.... just pick an android build to use, copy the folder to the root of your sd card, then run clrcad.exe then haret.exe... it will take 10-15 minutes the first time you boot into it. No need to flash or void your warranty.

Used to be stock rom was always trouble for android use, has that changed? Just curious
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deckardbr09 said:
Used to be stock rom was always trouble for android use, has that changed? Just curious
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His stock ROM will do just fine.

zarathustrax said:
You don't have to flash anything with that rom and radio.... just pick an android build to use, copy the folder to the root of your sd card, then run clrcad.exe then haret.exe... it will take 10-15 minutes the first time you boot into it. No need to flash or void your warranty.
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amazing. thank you so much for the clear cut answer. i will see how it goes thank you again

Just so you understand... when you reboot the phone it will go back to winmo. You need to run Haret again (always clrced first to enable sound) everytime you reboot the phone to get back into android. You can install a android loader program that will automatically run Haret for you as soon as winmo boots up to make things easier if you want. There are several booting apps... just look around the forums.
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cool cool. before i get started, does anyone have an idea of what build works best for my set up? links and advice greatly appreciated

Questions Re: Android and Win Mo?

Gday all im a bit lost in the android forums so im just going to do a noob thing and ask for some assistance, thanks.
I just installed the "[30 DEC][DFT]LEO "Stock Desire" NAND Android ROM" rom over top of my last rom from WINMO, which was the Energy jan 6 rom.
I also installed the latest Radio "Radio_Leo_2.15.50.14" and HSPL3 along with "MAGLDR112" everything went sweet upon install, so i have no real questions regarding that but im wondering how i can boot back into WINMO if its possible?
If i reboot the phone it just auto loads into Android.
Also i would like to know what the best Android rom is for reliability and secondly how would i update the roms as new version are released?
I think thats about it for now, the rom in currently using feels smooth and great the apps work fine but it feels a little locked down compared to the WINMO but it hasnt crashed on me in the past day which WINMO would have by now, lol.

To flash back winmo, simply go into bootloader/tri color screen. This is done by holding vol down, then powering up.
I'm not going to answer which is the "best" android rom, as that has been asked many times, where there are many answers for, so, search it up.
Updating differs. If it uses daf.exe/install.exe, it's that same as how you flashed android for the first time, however sometimes you can't retain your settings. Clockwork mod flashing however, is unbeknown to me, haven't tried it yet, sorry.

Thanks for that, so what would i need to do to backup my settings and info on the Android just incase i reinstall it just say?
Also if i back to the bootloader would that mean ill have to reinstall a winmo rom?
Then if so would it only boot into WINMO and not android?
Secondly how would i be able to reboot into android again?
I guess im asking is there a way to dual boot and whats the best way about doing it?

gamecore said:
Thanks for that, so what would i need to do to backup my settings and info on the Android just incase i reinstall it just say?
Also if i back to the bootloader would that mean ill have to reinstall a winmo rom?
Then if so would it only boot into WINMO and not android?
Secondly how would i be able to reboot into android again?
I guess im asking is there a way to dual boot and whats the best way about doing it?
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r u being jackass?u have to flash stock wm rom first.ok then u can flash any custom rom.
ok use titenium backup to backup ur android settings abd appp..
ok and after winmo if u want dual boot u have to install sd android build to ur sd card

Why would i want to be a jackass?
Yeah i come on here to troll these forums to post noob questions for ****s and giggles, are you such a person who angers over someone who clearly doesnt know what he is doing and yet you think im being a jackass (god i hate that word, lol never used down here though).
I hope i clearly posted im the OP on how and what i installed but now im lost, i have android working fine but i dont know how to back any data up just incase i do an update or even flash back to stock rom and maybe come back to android later and hope to reuse the backed up data from the android rom.
It took me about a year to get used to WINMO and learning how to install a custom rom on it but now i thought i give android a go and i managed to follow the steps without any issues (yes there were a few more steps i needed to do than i did need to do for a custom rom for WINMO) but now that i have it running i just want to know what to do to get WINMO back on and preferably getting WINMO and android working side by side.
I know how to flash custom roms in WINMO but im just wondering if there was a way for me to be able to boot back into winmo while i have android installed, all i want is to be pointed into the right direction or shown a link to a walkthrough or just given a point form reply as to the process on what and what not ill be able to keep and the best way in doing so.
So from your reply i gather ill need to install android to my SDcard and not the phone memory in order to run WINMO and Android together am i correct?
If so then because i use the ENERGY ROMS i can boot to android from within the ENERGY ROM, am i correct? i think NRG did something with android in his roms.
I am really sorry if i have upset anyone (above) but i am really lost with this, yes i pretty much understood custom roms in WINMO but with this i just did it spontaneously VERY VERY late last night and i wasnt thinking straight i just gave it a shot, so i put myself in the deep end and now im very confused with getting it back to normal as such thats all.
Worst case would i just be able to reformat the SD and then boot to 4 colour screen and just do my custom WINMO install as per usual or would i have to install the stock rom back then install the custom rom?

First of all, ignore the "jackass" above. That was just plain rude and he made himself look like a total idiot.
Secondly, if you want to backup your current Android setup, get Titanium Backup from the market. There's a batch job (click menu, batch jobs) that backs up all your apps & data and system settings. It backs it up to your SD card though, so be aware of that if you're thinking of formatting it for any reason.
Next, get the WM6.5 ROM that you want to flash (doesn't have to be a stock one). Enter the bootloader (tri-colour screen) and flash your WM ROM as normal.
Finally, when you flash a ROM onto your phone, that becomes the only OS on there. You can't switch between Android NAND and WM without flashing. You can, however, run Android from your SD card. There's a forum dedicated to that here...
HD2 Android SD Development
There's lots of info in there on how to do it, but it's basically unzip a file, copy the contents to your SD card, run 2 apps. You'll probably want to go down the route of a bootloader (not really) that runs in Windows. It lets you select Windows or Android when you reboot. They too can be found in that same forum.
That's the only way you can switch between Windows and Android on a regular basis, without flashing a new ROM.
Hope this helps

Thank you very much it has cleared allot up for me, now i know that because i flashed android on the phone its the only OS i can use, i didnt know that TBH.
So yes thanks again and ill do it the SD way and try my luck with that.
One more small thing, how do i go with updating the current android rom im using (if it were to be updated), does it work in a similar process as WINMO custom roms and their updates?
Again i much appreciate the reply, it has helped already.

gamecore said:
Thank you very much it has cleared allot up for me, now i know that because i flashed android on the phone its the only OS i can use, i didnt know that TBH.
So yes thanks again and ill do it the SD way and try my luck with that.
One more small thing, how do i go with updating the current android rom im using (if it were to be updated), does it work in a similar process as WINMO custom roms and their updates?
Again i much appreciate the reply, it has helped already.
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Generally, you flash an updated ROM the same way you flash the original ROM. There are backup options like Titanium Backup or ClockWork Mod (if the ROM supports it), so you can get everything back up and running again.

[Q] Urgent help needed please

Hi, I need some help from you guys, I'm a noob in these things, anyway I was on Windows mobile 6.5 (Not a T-mobile) , and thought about changing into an android. I found some tutorials on youtube, and tryied to do It exactly as It said. Ok, so I found this video on youtube with a link on It, I clicked It, which directed me to one website. I installed the Hard HSPL folowing the instructions, then It said to install a Windows Mobile ROM, I downloaded and installed "Chucky Droid Rom" and now my phone Is like in between the Windows and Android, some kind of weird screen like theres no OS on it. Then it says to download and put Android Rom into my SD card, after downloading "FroyoStone_Sense_V2", I also deleted everything from the SD card except the Android directory. After i push CLRCAD, I start "haret", but it just shows me very little text on top of the screen, which fades away in like 5 seconds. After that i get "Sleep of Death" the screen just keeps black, unless i restart my phone. I tryied to wait for like 40minutes hoping it will start somehow, but the situation didn't change... So can somebody please help me? How do i boot my phone to android, what should I do to get that penguin with a lot of flashing text on my phone instead of this "Sleep of Death" What am I doing wrong? Thanks for answer guys.

What is your intention with running Android, do you just want to experiment with it and use it as a dual boot, ie still have winmo and then boot to Android, or would you like to replace winmo with Android? If the first option, then you will need to flash a full winmo rom as AFAIK ChuckyDroid is an extremely light rom that basically just allows you to boot to an Android rom.
If your intention is to only run Android then you should be looking at the NAND Android roms as this replaces winmo totally and the phone boots straight to Android. If you would like to do this, then follow the link in my signature on Flashing NAND roms, it is a very good tutorial and gives you step by step instructions on what to do.

Does it work on European HD2? Because i think i have the problem, because my HD2 is not a T-mobile and i did everything as it said step by step, which would give directions for a T-mobile. I think thats the issue to the problem...

Vettelis said:
Does it work on European HD2? Because i think i have the problem, because my HD2 is not a T-mobile and i did everything as it said step by step, which would give directions for a T-mobile. I think thats the issue to the problem...
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The process is practically the same the only difference is that with NAND TMOUS get more storage then EU HD2, unless you have EXT partition on SD card. Anyway what radio are you currently running this could be why android wont run off SD card.
Ricey

Thanks for the help guys, after I installed the correct radio it works perfectly.

Need help phone wont turn on

My friend was trying install android on his hd2 and he clicked on haret first and he pulled the battery out of his phone and now he cant get it to turn on is there any fix for it?

check for bent battery pin

Can u access bootloader ?
If yes than u can reflash the ROM back.

How can i flash roms from the bootloader?

phone in bootloader - connect usb cable - when serial changes to usb, run your flash.

well we just had it booted by pushing the soft reset button and it booted up to winmobile and he shut it off and now he cant get it to go into the bootloader or turn on
Edit: it turned on again and also this is a unlocked running on At&t

well is he trying to run both winmo and android or making it a strictly android phone?

i dont know much about WM since im an android user but he running android off the sdcard for some reason the phone will turn on but when it shuts off it wont turn on he messed up and didnt run CLRCAD first and he ran the Herat first and it made the phone not want to boot up all the time

1st of all your friend need to decide what he wants, either windows or android.
what's the poit to start qindows and than boot into android?
he neet to flash the sys properly and not start from sd card.once the system is in flash u have stable sys,win or android.
so if he decide to go with android just go to Android NAND section.
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i dont know much about WM since im an android user but he running android off the sdcard for some reason the phone will turn on but when it shuts off it wont turn on he messed up and didnt run CLRCAD first and he ran the Herat first and it made the phone not want to boot up all the time
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What kind of answer is that.
1st of all your friend need to decide what he wants, either windows or android.
what's the poit to start qindows and than boot into android?
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Do you think the world has to be either fully android or fully win mobile? I think not. I use both and want both. And NAND is NOT fully stable either.
i dont know much about WM since im an android user but he running android off the sdcard for some reason the phone will turn on but when it shuts off it wont turn on he messed up and didnt run CLRCAD first and he ran the Herat first and it made the phone not want to boot up all the time
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Phone will turn or or it won't turn on? Which is it? Are you saying it won't boot to winmo or it won't boot to android? If you remove the sd card does the phone boot to winmo? With the phone completely off what happens when you push the button to turn on the phone? You need to better explain your issue and what is actually happening. Cramming vague info into one super long sentence does not help you.

The reason were doing it this way is because hes not very smart at messing with this kind of stuff thats how he got his phone to not turn back on for some reason. Like when it turned off he couldnt get it to turn back on we both thought it was bricked but i started looking around posted on here and we push the soft reset button on the back of the phone and now it turns on but sometimes it wont its weird

Am I the only one who don't know what the hell is going on ?

I had this when trying to run SD card builds. Every rom every winmo rom, every radio, always the same,,, 99% of the time it screwed the winmo install and had to hard reset.
tried a few times for several hours to fault find,never solved it. All hail nand!

I still don't have a clue. If you are not smart enough to install an sd build (copy and paste) I sure as hell don't know how someone is going to go through all that for NAND builds. And the whole problem just might be that the call end/power button is defective.
Whatever this way is then good luck.

just install a stock rom going into bootloader choose accordingly depending on the hd2 version euro512 or t mobile 1024 via active sync or sd card method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614(for t mobile 1024)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477(for 512 leo)
when u finish installing either stick to windows mobile or go for nand accordingly as stated in the link or this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=981811
be aware of what hd2 version u have and install accordingly the hspl.
hope this helps.

[Q] How to delete NAND android?

Hello everyone,
I bought an HTC HD2 a few days ago, (not a new one) And it was installed with UltimateDroid, I don't really like this version, and Sense doesn't work on it, so I was wondering if I can delete it, and how.
And if I delete it, Will my phone automatically run Windows mobile?
I'm new to this and this is my first time with android and htc, So I don't know anything about it.
Hope someone can help..

You have to flash a new rom using AD Recovery Tool

Easiest thing for you to do would be to start from scratch or follow this guide. You shouldn't need to do step 1 and you will already have the prerequisites. This is for Android, not WinMo.
For WinMo, download a ROM and flash it from bootloader. See the Windows Mobile dev stickies for detailed instructions (you will be able to ignore the HSPL part.)

try the guide on addictive tips:how-to-install-android-on-internal-nand-memory-of-htc-hd2-with-magldr

how to wipe all my data... is it possible native duel boot... winnow vs android...

SharonThirza said:
Hello everyone,
I bought an HTC HD2 a few days ago, (not a new one) And it was installed with UltimateDroid, I don't really like this version, and Sense doesn't work on it, so I was wondering if I can delete it, and how.
And if I delete it, Will my phone automatically run Windows mobile?
I'm new to this and this is my first time with android and htc, So I don't know anything about it.
Hope someone can help..
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What do you want in stead of UltimateDroid?
Android with sense, or WM6.5?
We need to know this in order to give you proper help.
I personally recommend Android, WM6.5 is a dying OS...

selvag said:
how to wipe all my data... is it possible native duel boot... winnow vs android...
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Dual boot is possible, WinMo on NAND, Android from SD, you can even have Ubuntu Linux on SD at the same time for triple boot.
To wipe data if you plan on going back to Windows Mobile on NAND, just flash a Windows Mobile ROM at the tri-color bootloader screen (boot the device up while holding the vol - key)
If you have Android on NAND, and want to keep Android but just want to wipe data, there's an option for that in CWM Recovery.
If you have WinMo on NAND, and just want to do a data wipe/factory reset, power on while holding both volume keys and follow the on-screen prompt
If you want to format your NAND memory, there is a tool called task 29, but it's not necessary.
If you're asking whether you can run both Windows Mobile and Android from NAND, no. It's one or the other

se1988 said:
What do you want in stead of UltimateDroid?
Android with sense, or WM6.5?
We need to know this in order to give you proper help.
I personally recommend Android, WM6.5 is a dying OS...
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Sorry for the late reply, I want Android with sense! I have no experience with flashing roms etc. Never done anything like it before.

OK really first do you have magLDR or cLK ... when you turn on phone does it immediately go to boot screen or do you see some running script followed by 1,2,3,4,5,6 ... go go go!
if you have go go go the simply go to the Dev forums find a rom with (magLDR) in the title and follow instructions. they almost have a link to the best recovery to use with their rom.
if you boot straight up like a native android, or you can charge your phone when its turned off you have cLK ... to the dev forums and look for (cLK) in title and again follow instructions and get to it.

rubledub said:
OK really first do you have magLDR or cLK ... when you turn on phone does it immediately go to boot screen or do you see some running script followed by 1,2,3,4,5,6 ... go go go!
if you have go go go the simply go to the Dev forums find a rom with (magLDR) in the title and follow instructions. they almost have a link to the best recovery to use with their rom.
if you boot straight up like a native android, or you can charge your phone when its turned off you have cLK ... to the dev forums and look for (cLK) in title and again follow instructions and get to it.
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It says the 1,2,3,4,5,6.. go go go! thing, but I can also choose to go to boot screen, which gives me all kinds of numbers with flash rom and stuff.
But thanks, I'll have a look!