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which video encoder

Hi I'm thinking of encoding video to playback on the Tytn, can someone please recommend a software that will keep the movie size small while maintaining quality.
Thanks

i've always found best results with avi format. TCPMP is available for free for the tytn but does have a playback issue which is very simply worked around.
As for software for converting your videos, I use CarryDVD (not free) for converting my dvd's - I found converting a DVD movie to a 250-300MB avi gives excellent results. For converting non-dvd video files, eg. larger avi files, I use the free version of Lathe - PocketDivX Encoder with Xvid and 2 pass encoding checked.
Hope this helps.
Matt

Ive used AutoGK, it encodes from several sources (including VOB files from DVDs) into Xvid or DivX.
I personally encode into .avi using Xvid (it does a 2pass Mpeg-4 Xvid encoding to .avi) and audio is encoded in MP3 at 128kbit VBR. And i set it to encode into 320x240.
Using Coreplayer (or TCPMP) it plays back FLAWLESSLY.
For example ive encoded an episode of the simpsons (22mins) from DVD into a 60Mb avi file and its just perfect playback on the TyTN. The performance TCPMP/Coreplayer seems to depend somewhat on the ROM you are using.
An excellent guide for using AutoGK alongside DVD Decrypter (both freeware) is found HERE on doom9.org. Using my analogy the filesize you set in AutoGK can be found using 5.45*minutes.
Use half that if you are encoding a low detail picture such as a cartoon (as i did with the simpsons). So for example a 30 minute video of a properly filmed source (ie friends, or cheers etc..) would use a filesize of 163.5Mb.

Guest69 said:
i've always found best results with avi format. TCPMP is available for free for the tytn but does have a playback issue which is very simply worked around.
As for software for converting your videos, I use CarryDVD (not free) for converting my dvd's - I found converting a DVD movie to a 250-300MB avi gives excellent results. For converting non-dvd video files, eg. larger avi files, I use the free version of Lathe - PocketDivX Encoder with Xvid and 2 pass encoding checked.
Hope this helps.
Matt
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Thanks Guest69, i've downloaded the trial version of CarryDVD, if I like it i'll buy the software.

Not free, but I am using CloneDVDmobile from slysoft. $39, iirc, though I got the suite (ripping and decoding as well) a while back when it was on sale. Yes, there are free versions that do much of the same, but quite honestly I got tired of going multiple places to get updates. Seems to work well for encoding.
Just figured out that you have to choose the Raw Framebuffer option and NOT the ATI Imageon (in the TCPMP Video Options) in order to get normal playback on the hermes. I've got a recode of Madagascar that looks great at 300MB for the 80(?) minute movie at 320x(whatever the 16:9AR works out to). There are some tearing-like transition artifiacts, and minor artifacting if I keep my eyes within about 10" of the screen (which is as close as my old-fart eyes can focus).

I get good results with virtualdubmod. Have a look here: http://zodiacguide.sitesled.com/
I started off using the guide, but like to have as much control as possible so now I don't. Obviously depends on the codecs you install, but I like it.
Possibly not the simplest one-stop method.

Which Video encoder
Hi
I use a product called DVD Catalyst there are two versions and you can download a Full 7-day uncrippled trial version here
http://www.pocketdvd.ca/
The program is a all in one ripper DVD to PDA/IPOD/PSP etc
Colin

Try Super. Completely FREE and converts between nearly every file format imaginable. You do need to play with the settings to get good results though. Try 300-400KBps to start with and increase / decrease based on performance, and remember to use single channel and fairly low quality sound to keep the file as small as possible (unless you have decent earphones (and an adapter ))

Super is good but doesn't not give you a 2-pass encode option. Try something like PocketDivxEncoder which has the 2-pass option for encoding to Xvid. It's also very easy to set up and fast.
I actually use WinMEnc. not as polished or professional as PocketDivXEncoder but will convert from DVD or .avi file and is excellent quality plus the second pass is twice as fast as PocketDivxEncoder. (Both are based around Mencoder). For years I did it manually using VDub Mod and even Auto GK.

Another vote for Super. Excellent program for converting any format into any format.
And completely free.

overzeetop said:
Not free, but I am using CloneDVDmobile from slysoft. $39, ....... I've got a recode of Madagascar that looks great at 300MB for the 80(?) minute movie at 320x240.
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I've got CloneDVDmobile as well. I've used the full CLoneDVD for years with great success. The default for DVD encoding on CloneDVDmobile is set at a quality level of 23 or about 556 meg for a 2 hour movie. What quality level are you finding works best for the Hermes and DVD encoding to get as small an AVI file as possible without making the video un-watchable?

I try to keep my avi files to around 300mb per movie. This seems to keep a sharp picture even with action scenes.

video ripping

what programs are recommended for ripping DVDs into 640x480 to view on ameo?
any recomendations for conversion of existing AVIs ?

PocketDivXEncoder is free and excellent:
http://www.pocketdivxencoder.net/

cheers for that.
ive converted an existing AVI file i had, can view converted file on PC nicely but windows media player on Ameo says it cannot play file. Do i need a seperate divx player or codecs installed on the Ameo?
Also, the pocketdivxextractor doesnt seem to like the VOB files on a DVD to read. i dont see a preview, and when i tried extracting one..it came out jarbled and lasted only 5secs or so. Is there a trick i am missing? Tried a couple of my DVDs, in various drives

You need a divx player for PPC, WMP wont do them. Or mpg, its kinda sucky that way.
Also, pocketdivxencoder crashes lots under vista

shockboy2000 said:
cheers for that.
ive converted an existing AVI file i had, can view converted file on PC nicely but windows media player on Ameo says it cannot play file. Do i need a seperate divx player or codecs installed on the Ameo?
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you need "tcmp" or "coreplayer"
greetings,
Wout

Agreed, TCPMP or Coreplayer are your best media players for pocket pc and are capable of playing Divx, MP4, Xvid, OGG files and mpeg 1 files amongst others. WMP10 only supports WMV, MP4 and MPEG 1.
TCPMP is freeware and various codec plug ins are available for it, such as AVC, AC3, FFMEG etc.
Coreplayer is not free but is made by the same people and is a much nicer application aesthetically.
Conversion is achieved by many different methods. Pocketdivxencoder is a simple one to use, but is lacking in DVD to PPC capabilities. It is better used for quick re-encoding of existing AVI files etc.
For DVD Ripping get the following freeware software:
DVD Decryptor (to remove encryption from DVD and to rip it to hard drive)
Get and use DVDx 2.5 to encode the DVD to Divx based AVI file or Xvid (free codec)...though I prefer the results of using the latest Divx codec (but it's not free, you do get a long trial period though to see if it meets your demands).
So basically DVDx encodes your VOBs to one AVI file or other format and takes a bit longer than Pocketdivxencoder, but you get more options in encoding and much better results in my opinion.
Alternatively download a copy of ImToo 3GP Converter which can rip a DVD direct to any other format (most poular formats - providing it is not encrypted, in which case use DVD Decrypter or DVD Fab Decrypter Freeware and superb application).
Once you get the hang of these apps you should not need any others, but if you really get into all of this encoding lark, try Virtual Dub or such like programs which give you virtually full control over all aspects of video conversions.
Good luck.

[Q] Video conversion (again) - 1 file for Xoom and DVD player

Hi,
I got some 720p files (mkv and mp4) that (probably) would not work on Xoom and definitely do not work on ma LG dvd player with usb and divix support. Dvd plays avi and normal divix... no HD, no fancy stuff (I got it connected to an old 21" CRT TV - dont have LCD HD).
Question:
What software (free) should I use to convert them to a format that will work on both - Xoom (in future) and dvd player?

Hand brake is pretty good... rock player is a good player for mkv
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it has to be plain avi file in order to play on dvd. Will avi play on xoom?

galtom said:
it has to be plain avi file in order to play on dvd. Will avi play on xoom?
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WHAT? A DVD is MPEG only http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvd_video#Container
Also know an AVI is a container not a format. It is about the oldest thing out there videowise introduced 1992 by Microsoft.
Now you may have a DVD player that plays files and supports the DV-AVI container for playback. Never seen one though. Anyway...
If you buy a newer BlueRay player, like one from Samsung, it will support DVDs, MPEG2, H.264, VC-1, AVCHD, DIVX HD, MKV, MP4, WMV9, 3GPP, HD JPEG so you won't have to worry about converting anything more than once.

Can anyone answer this question for me. I have a bunch of bluray rips in .iso format. How can I convert them to load on the xoom?

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WHAT? A DVD is MPEG only http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvd_video#Container
Also know an AVI is a container not a format. It is about the oldest thing out there videowise introduced 1992 by Microsoft.
Now you may have a DVD player that plays files and supports the DV-AVI container for playback. Never seen one though. Anyway...
If you buy a newer BlueRay player, like one from Samsung, it will support DVDs, MPEG2, H.264, VC-1, AVCHD, DIVX HD, MKV, MP4, WMV9, 3GPP, HD JPEG so you won't have to worry about converting anything more than once.
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actually a ton of dvd players play avi divx/xvid, it's almost hard to find one these days that doesnt.
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fishtaco254 said:
Can anyone answer this question for me. I have a bunch of bluray rips in .iso format. How can I convert them to load on the xoom?
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you ripped them to iso? that's kind of strange, never heard of someone doing that before.
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An ISO is actually a mountable image I do not think the Xoom can mount one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iso_image
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actually a ton of dvd players play avi divx/xvid, it's almost hard to find one these days that doesn't.
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Yes I know just an example. The problem with AVI is people stick so many different things in there or put an AVI extension on a file that is not really an AVI. Many times these days it is actually DivX which is just MPEG-4 Part 2 or 10 anyway. After my last post I started plowing though all the old AVI files on my computer and about the ONLY player that would play 100% of them was VLC.
I also downloaded the Rockplayer ARM7 edition since there is not a 9 out and loaded it on my Zoom. It seems to FC if you hold the Xoom in portrait mode but works fine in landscape. Plays most formats but seems to not run any of my old AVI files.

@OP
Mount the ISOs onto a virtual drive (eg http://www.dvdfab.com/virtual_drive.htm ). Then run Handbrake or whichever app you're using. As long as they can process Bluray's M2TS format, you're peach. May be.
@DebianDog
When people say "AVI", especially ones they didn't make, it's generally a warez version which means XviD/DivX, and MP3 or AC3. Pretty common stuff. @OP: You need a 3rd-party player to play AVI, like the mentioned Rockplayer.

Right...
My player is LG DVX 392H.
I got no idea about specifics of the file but in windows it says .avi and it plays
If you need more information to help me, please let me know how can I get them out of the files in question (I do not have any experience with video files as Windows simply plays the lot so one does not need to worry - klite and all sorted).
Since I plan to get Xoom and I have come to terms with necessity of converting I would prefer the option to have it play on both devices...
Thanks guys!
Ps. Got handbrake but it says only about Apple devices and after few tries id did not work on dvd player (from usb stick) either no file was shown or it said can not play HD content (there was only audio).

I didn't convert them to iso. I uh just received them in iso format if you catch my drift...

@galtom
You don't have to do any conversion for (most) AVIs. Just get a 3rd-party media player. Some AVIs may have AC3 audio tracks which aren't natively supported, but software players like Rockplayer can handle those.
To get video specs, use MediaInfo http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net
@fishtaco254
Most HD ISOs nowaday are either in AVCHD format (likely) or Bluray (M2TS). Either way, you'll need to mount them and convert, or wait until XBMC for Android comes out.

I know that with avi I am (mostly) OK.
But I also have a lot of 720p files described in Windows as Matroska/mkv
These videos do not play on my dvd/usb player and I doubt they would on Xoom.
So .. back to question no 1 - what would be the easiest way to convert them to a format that will be accepted by both devices.
I think I might have the answer:
http://bit.ly/fFDcQ6
"Convert Videos For Android And iOS The Easy Way
By Sahas Katta March 19, 2011 09:19 PMAdd Comment
A question that comes up often? “How do I convert videos for my Android or iOS device?” Apple iPhone users have iTunes for optimizing video, but the program lacks support for many popular formats. On the other hand, Google does not even offer a desktop client for managing multimedia. Our friends at Lifehacker and Tested each featured potential solutions, but I think the following solutions is even better: Miro Video Converter. While there are hundreds of apps that offer similar capabilities, this one is by far the easiest to use, is entirely open source, and actually looks fancy.
How To Convert
Drag a video onto Miro Video Converter.
Select a preset from the drop down menu.
Hit convert, wait a few minutes, and that’s it!
You do not have to deal with aspect ratios, codecs, frame rates, resolutions, or any other technical jargon for that matter. In fact, those options are not even available for reconfiguring. One the progress bar hits 100%, the newly optimized video will appear besides your original file in the same folder.
Supported Devices
Miro Video Converter includes defaults for about eight Android devices and four Apple devices. The Sony PSP is also a preset for those that still use one. I should note that the listed Android smart phones are last generation models. The Atrix, Droid 2, and Droid X, and other recent ones are missing from the list. With that being said, the MP4 preset worked perfectly on the EVO and Thunderbolt. I am also doubtful that the program takes full advantage of the high-resolution playback capabilities of the new iPhone 4 and iPod touch, but converted videos still play without any glitches.
Supported File Formats
I dragged several video files into Miro Video Converter from various sources including Apple iTunes Podcasts, DVD rips, YouTube downloads, Vimeo files, and more. Every file was immediately recognized. For the geeky, the supported formats include AVI, H264, MOV, WMV, XVID, Theora, MKV, and FLV. The program can re-encode them to variations of MP4, Ogg Theora, or WebM.
Other Thoughts
Although I am definitely a fan of Miro Video Converter, I still keep Handbrake on hand. The latter is also open source and offers hundreds of exporting options. Those come in handy at times when you have a device that requires a peculiar resolution or another setting. I would definitely like the team at Participatory Culture Foundation add more presets for recently popular device and possibly even tablets. For the most part, Miro Video Converter should get the job done for most Android and iOS users. The program runs on both Macintosh and Windows, which should cover most grounds too."
http://www.mirovideoconverter.com/
I will give it a shot in few minutes.
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I have converted mkv file into mp4 file. No luck.
Dvd is not playing that + "original" file was 500MB larg after conversion it had over 3GB!!!
It is not working for me... + it has no xoom/android 3.0 pre-set :-(
Maybe next update will change that.

Your DVD player only plays AVI, i.e. DivX+MP3. HandBrake no longer converts to DivX nor AVI, because they're obsolete.
Try using Miro to convert to AVI. You need to resize 720p to standard-def, else the DVD player will choke. If Miro doesn't do this, try another software.
Go here, http://videohelp.com/tools/sections/video-encoders
An alternative is to get a media player that can play MKV.

i think maybe the moboplayer can help you, it supports almost any video formats, and the effect is pretty good.
and rip your DVD or blu-ray? i have used the handbrake, it's great. my friend said she has used a ripper called brorsoft, it has free trial version, also pretty good.
you can have a try

Just download dice player and you can play .mkv files without having to convert them.
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fishtaco254 said:
Can anyone answer this question for me. I have a bunch of bluray rips in .iso format. How can I convert them to load on the xoom?
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You can convert them to the videos of avi or mp4 format which is compatible with the Xoom and can be played on most of suitable players.
As for the converter, I recommend you the brorsoft video converter which I'm using now. I'm quite satisfied with the convenient performance, the great interface as well as the quality of the converted videos. I think you can try to convert your iso foles to avi or mp4 format via this converter.
If you have many blu-rays, you can choose the blu-ray ripper which can rip and convert your blu-rays to HD avi or mp4 format. It can save a lot of time.
One thing I must to say is the amazing speed. With the CUDA tech, it si almost 5X faster than those I have used before.
As for the player, I think the mobo player and the rockplayer are the best. I can play all my moives of avi and mp4 format on the two players with full screen. You can try them.

Video formats and convertors
Android plays.mkv files fine.
Mkv is a container ,chose H264 as video codec and AC3 as audio codec.
Some of the best convertors are:
Formatfactory
Super(erightsoft)
Handbrake
all 3 produce excellent files.And all are free.
Handbrake is not obsolete(it was a deliberate decision to drop .avi) as it is now focused for Apple devices.
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I have LG BD390(bed room) and BD570(living room) bluray players connected to HD TVs, and a Verizon 3G Xoom.
I generally RIP my Bluray discs to MKV's using BD-Rebuilder's "movie only, alternate output" and specifying an 8gig output file. While these look great on the TV's, the XOOM can't play them back properly (and lets face it, at 8ig per movie, I wont fit too many on the Xoom)
So, I've used DVDCatalyst to convert DVD's and the home made (as well as downloaded) MKV's into files that I can play on the XOOM using MOBOPlayer. The video files end up in the 2 to 3gig range.
Those same files made with DVDCatalyst will also play back on the LG's across the network, but on my HD TV, don't look as sharp and clear due to the reduced settings which make the file sizes so much smaller.
I haven't tried DVDCatalyst to go from Bluray source to Xoom formatted file yet, as its release notes list "limited support" for this.

dice player
why convert?? use dice player to play 720p mkv!!!

[Q] Best video format for Transformer playback

I've been messing around with multiple video formats (trying to get movies for myself as well as my kids onto my Transformer) and was curious as to what formats people have had the best luck with.
I have some 720P mkv files that have been very laggy (audio/video sync issues) (with various different video apps, vPlayer being the one that I had the most luck with.)
I'd prefer not to have to re-do most of my video files, but if I have to do it, I'm just curious as to what formats people have had the best luck with.
Also, to clarify, most files have been converted via Handbrake.
Thanks in advance for your thoughts and suggestions.

psunami said:
I've been messing around with multiple video formats (trying to get movies for myself as well as my kids onto my Transformer) and was curious as to what formats people have had the best luck with.
I have some 720P mkv files that have been very laggy (audio/video sync issues) (with various different video apps, vPlayer being the one that I had the most luck with.)
I'd prefer not to have to re-do most of my video files, but if I have to do it, I'm just curious as to what formats people have had the best luck with.
Also, to clarify, most files have been converted via Handbrake.
Thanks in advance for your thoughts and suggestions.
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The default video player supports MP4 files which I've had no problems with, it may even be supported by the hardware acceleration. I've had a 1080p MP4 file @ ~5MB/sec video quality in the past and that played back without any real lag. I too used Handbrake to convert from the original WMV to get the MP4.

I don't do HD so I have SD dvd ripped MKVs converted into MP4s constrained to size using handbrake. My rule of thumb on size is the number of hours:minutes = gig.mb. (So a 2 hours, 30 minute movie would be 2.5 gigs)
Works fine and quality is great.

zillah1985 said:
I don't do HD so I have SD dvd ripped MKVs converted into MP4s constrained to size using handbrake. My rule of thumb on size is the number of hours:minutes = gig.mb. (So a 2 hours, 30 minute movie would be 2.5 gigs)
Works fine and quality is great.
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Help a fool like me out...
If I have a DVD, can I rip it in Handbrake? And if so, what settings should I use? I'm just looking for the easiest way to rip some DVDs to have with me...thanks!

psunami said:
I've been messing around with multiple video formats (trying to get movies for myself as well as my kids onto my Transformer) and was curious as to what formats people have had the best luck with.
I have some 720P mkv files that have been very laggy (audio/video sync issues) (with various different video apps, vPlayer being the one that I had the most luck with.)
I'd prefer not to have to re-do most of my video files, but if I have to do it, I'm just curious as to what formats people have had the best luck with.
Also, to clarify, most files have been converted via Handbrake.
Thanks in advance for your thoughts and suggestions.
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The stock player will accelerate h.264 video if it's in an mp4 container. In an .mkv container it will only play in one of the third party apps (which won't use hardware acceleration). You can use Handbrake to convert them to mp4 files and it will be quite quick if you just copy the video and audio. You can't just rename .mkv to .mp4 unfortunately, but without having to change the video inside the .mkv the conversion should be really fast (like 3-4 minutes per movie).
sassafras

Thank you to all of you for your suggestions.
I've found an app that allows for a pretty quick conversion of the mkv to mp4 files and they have worked without a hitch.
Since, I can't post links, I'll just say that I used the mkv/avi to mp4 tool that is on sourceforge for the conversions.
Thank you again for your help.

[Q] Windows Media video?

Can I do a modification to enable it after it's rooted?
I tried to play .wmv files with floor model but I have no luck.
I have a lot of ripped DVDs in .mp4 (480p) format, but I also have several .wmv files downloaded. The size will drastically increase if I re-encode to .mp4 without degrading quality.

i think its in /etc/media_profiles.xml in bottom of file, change to "yes" and save back.
remember to have system r/w

MKV
You can attempt to convert the files to MKV.
The system by default does not play back this file source but there is a player called Mobo Player available on the market.
I have done a few mp4 720p conversions to mkv 720p and I am pleased to say they worked while not being to to big (average size is 1-2gigs per 1.5hrs)

I have read reports that Diceplayer handles mkv files. You might want to give that a try.

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