Edge to save battery? - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I was reading up a bit on battery life, and someone suggested in some thread that they keep it on edge for most of the time, as it works fine for calls/texts/email and light browsing, and then just uses the 3g/4g when he needs extra speed, with like heavy browsing or youtube or something. So my question is - does being on edge use significantly less battery than hsdpa?

sunsean said:
So I was reading up a bit on battery life, and someone suggested in some thread that they keep it on edge for most of the time, as it works fine for calls/texts/email and light browsing, and then just uses the 3g/4g when he needs extra speed, with like heavy browsing or youtube or something. So my question is - does being on edge use significantly less battery than hsdpa?
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I personally see no difference in the two battery wise
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How do you even set it edge only? Can't seem to find the option
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I find that it makes a pretty big difference actually... walk around with the radio stuck on edge for a day solid and tell me you don't have better batt life.
It should be an option under mobile network settings
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It depends on your usage. Everything is relative, if you do a lot of browsing on edge, it's taking longer to access pages and download files, so power consumption is smaller but happens over a longer period of time. What really matters is how solid your signal is. If you are ever in a spotty coverage area, it's better to put it on edge because then the radio is frequently seeking a connection and burning through battery unnecessarily. In that situation while on edge it consumes much less power to stay connected to the network when possible. But you won't see an overwhelming difference between edge and 3g unless you have a lot of apps/widgets that continuously update themselves. Some people will see significant gains from keeping their phone on edge, others not so much.
You'll have a better result rooting and installing a custom ROM like Royal Glacier or Orange Glacier that have been optimized and use more efficient kernels. With either of those ROMs you should easily be able to go the entire day without throttling usage before you need to charge your phone.

To the poster who asked: you can find edge only (aka GSM only) in menu>settings>wireless&networks>mobile networks>network mode.
Well the point is that you still use 3g/4g when you need it, it only takes a few seconds to switch, like for streaming audio/video or if you know you're going to be using the browser for a while, but for light browsing (i.e. looking up an address with google) edge is fine. I tried it for a few hours, and obviously phone and texting were unaffected, but everything else seemed to work smoothly too: gmail pushed through, widgets updated, etc. I guess I'll just experiment for a couple days to see if I notice any difference.
And yeah - I'll get around to rooting soon. I'm following a similar pattern with my MT4G that I did with my MT3G. Use it on stock for a while, then when I DO root, it'll feel like getting a new phone

Root you phone...
Before my phone was rooted i used an app called juice defender. It worked pretty well but not as well as i hoped. I was always skeptical about rooting my phone but found out my warranty covers rooted phone so i took the dive. Battery life has more than doubled. I use runCPU and you can practically turn your processor off while your phone is asleep.

I haven't tested it on this phone, but on my G1 I would almost airways use edge and it would last almost 3 days, but if I left it alone it would barely last a day...I've been wanting to try, but I can't bring myself to hold the phone back, it seems so inhumane
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sunsean said:
So I was reading up a bit on battery life, and someone suggested in some thread that they keep it on edge for most of the time, as it works fine for calls/texts/email and light browsing, and then just uses the 3g/4g when he needs extra speed, with like heavy browsing or youtube or something. So my question is - does being on edge use significantly less battery than hsdpa?
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There's not really any difference because when you are on edge speed it takes much longer to download items and browse from one web page to the next. The ultimate result is that the batter is working just as hard if not harder when on edge speed.

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Battery Life?

curious to see what kind of battery life people are getting on average with their phones? im pretty happy with the life im getting but after reading what some other people are getting it puts mine to shame!
how many hours are you guys getting under how much load and which kernel/rom/mods do you have?
I too am interested in this.. maybe you could post your stats, I have no time atm.
My unrooted n1 battery is poor
unrooted N1, average use 3G, Wifi, some surfing, living wallpaper; about 5%/ hour -> 20 hours. Assume as acceptable, about one day of use; better than my Iphone used to be (worse than Hero 1.6 was)..
Mine is not rooted and the battery life is either less or on par with the iPhone. Only use beautiful weather widget as well as the default news one. It's relatively new so I'm hoping it improves after a few charges, definitely considering picking up another battery.
digital bliss said:
Mine is not rooted and the battery life is either less or on par with the iPhone. Only use beautiful weather widget as well as the default news one. It's relatively new so I'm hoping it improves after a few charges, definitely considering picking up another battery.
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you don't need another battery. just tune up your N1 correctly. Use either Wifi or 3g preferably when available. Use push rather than scheduled sync. Leave brightness down to minimum, you will only need more when you are outside.
Connections & screen usage take biggest part of your battery life.
I heard also some people who by pressing *#*#4636#*#* selected "WCDMA only" as preferred network so phone doesn't try to swap to 2g when there is no 3g. Changes between networks drain battery very fast. Let's say for example while traveling by car.
As well I have to say that last generation mobile phones have to be charged once per day. I consider that normal. Come on most of us play around, surf website, take pics and upload them to facebook, etc several times along the day.
I have the UV kernel and I think it does extend battery life. The first day I had it it lasted for 18 and a half hours with a fairly normal use: GTalk, browsing, camera, market downloads, gps, etc.
I do want to mention for those who are comparing their battery life to their iPhone's that there's nothing to compare, as there's absolutely no hardware equivalences. You just can't compare a 600MHz processor to a 1000GHz one, as well as larger and better screen, 256 vs 512MB mem, etc. I'd like to see what your battery life would be on your iPhone if you could plug in htc's battery.
Definitely not saying Apple is not good on batteries, just saying to read and check stuff before you make comparisons between devices.
St.Jimmy! said:
I have the UV kernel and I think it does extend battery life. The first day I had it it lasted for 18 and a half hours with a fairly normal use: GTalk, browsing, camera, market downloads, gps, etc.
I do want to mention for those who are comparing their battery life to their iPhone's that there's nothing to compare, as there's absolutely no hardware equivalences. You just can't compare a 600MHz processor to a 1000GHz one, as well as larger and better screen, 256 vs 512MB mem, etc. I'd like to see what your battery life would be on your iPhone if you could plug in htc's battery.
Definitely not saying Apple is not good on batteries, just saying to read and check stuff before you make comparisons between devices.
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mmm..... i'm thinking to load some rom on my N1 but... which ones are the advantages of doing so? the mods?
St.Jimmy! said:
I have the UV kernel and I think it does extend battery life. The first day I had it it lasted for 18 and a half hours with a fairly normal use: GTalk, browsing, camera, market downloads, gps, etc.
I do want to mention for those who are comparing their battery life to their iPhone's that there's nothing to compare, as there's absolutely no hardware equivalences. You just can't compare a 600MHz processor to a 1000GHz one, as well as larger and better screen, 256 vs 512MB mem, etc. I'd like to see what your battery life would be on your iPhone if you could plug in htc's battery.
Definitely not saying Apple is not good on batteries, just saying to read and check stuff before you make comparisons between devices.
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I don't want to compare hardware/ batteries, I am aware of all the differences.. But: I DO want to have a smartphone, which -at least- can go with for a day of usual use (calls, messages, internet) -at which point the Iphone just fails..
bmszabo said:
I don't want to compare hardware/ batteries, I am aware of all the differences.. But: I DO want to have a smartphone, which -at least- can go with for a day of usual use (calls, messages, internet) -at which point the Iphone just fails..
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then post your normal usage in mins/day for each thing and we would be able to tell you.
well i dunno i get a full days use out of my phone with maybe an hour or 2 or talk time and maybe 20 messages, syncing gmail 5 or 6 times, checking market, and a little bit of browsing. at the end of the day ill still have about 30% or so....im not complaining really but from what i hear from other people on the forums here their doing alot heavier usage and still at 70% or something. im just curious what is really making the difference, i dont have wifi, bluetooth, or sync on ever. but i keep my screen at full brightness always cause i love how the screen looks im running CM 5.5.3 and use setCPU.
I used a T-Mobile nexus one for awhile then sold it and bought an AT&T nexus one. The AT&T version is getting significantly less battery life than the T-Mobile one. I used the same AT&T service on both phones. I'm not saying it's necessarily a difference between the 2 versions, but between the 2 phones at least. I got probably 36 hrs. average on the T-Mobile version and maybe 18 hrs. average on the AT&T one.
maxh said:
I used a T-Mobile nexus one for awhile then sold it and bought an AT&T nexus one. The AT&T version is getting significantly less battery life than the T-Mobile one. I used the same AT&T service on both phones. I'm not saying it's necessarily a difference between the 2 versions, but between the 2 phones at least. I got probably 36 hrs. average on the T-Mobile version and maybe 18 hrs. average on the AT&T one.
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Let the battery break in.
blastik said:
you don't need another battery. just tune up your N1 correctly. Use either Wifi or 3g preferably when available. Use push rather than scheduled sync. Leave brightness down to minimum, you will only need more when you are outside.
Connections & screen usage take biggest part of your battery life.
I heard also some people who by pressing *#*#4636#*#* selected "WCDMA only" as preferred network so phone doesn't try to swap to 2g when there is no 3g. Changes between networks drain battery very fast. Let's say for example while traveling by car.
As well I have to say that last generation mobile phones have to be charged once per day. I consider that normal. Come on most of us play around, surf website, take pics and upload them to facebook, etc several times along the day.
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Thanks for the tips. How good is auto-brightness for this phone? Would it be better to just set a low and a high profile for outside?
Stock rom. Heavy internet. 7 hours straight....
Or 3 full movies
Or all day using it normaly...
Brightness always almost all the way down, no updating widgets other than weather, no push email...
Very happy with it..
maxh said:
I used a T-Mobile nexus one for awhile then sold it and bought an AT&T nexus one. The AT&T version is getting significantly less battery life than the T-Mobile one. I used the same AT&T service on both phones. I'm not saying it's necessarily a difference between the 2 versions, but between the 2 phones at least. I got probably 36 hrs. average on the T-Mobile version and maybe 18 hrs. average on the AT&T one.
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You were also probably getting significantly better battery life with the EDGE only of the tmobile one, on the ATT Network, than the now 3g enabled att nexus. You can force edge on the nexus one in the wireless settings, and switch it off if you are gonna be browsing the internet for a while, etc to try to get the most outta that battery.
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You were also probably getting significantly better battery life with the EDGE only of the tmobile one, on the ATT Network, than the now 3g enabled att nexus. You can force edge on the nexus one in the wireless settings, and switch it off if you are gonna be browsing the internet for a while, etc to try to get the most outta that battery.
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I tried edge only but didn't notice much of a difference.

Battery life is GREAT, until you use it?!

This is not another thread about battery life obsession. It's more about a curiosity.
I have my Evo tuned so that it has great battery life on standby. When I use it for anything--SMS, data, local apps--the battery drains very fast.
I know that data, CPU, and display are the major consumers, but...
I have a Nexus One, with also a 1Ghz Snapdragon, and almost exactly the same loaded apps. Same screen resolution, both on 2.2. Both have 1500mAh battery. The only difference is the display technology and radio (GSM/EDGE/HSPA vs. CDMA/1xRTT/EVDO).
When used equally, the N1's battery does not drain nearly as fast as the Evo. How come? I know AMOLED is supposed be more power efficient, but by that much? I know CDMA can be less efficient, but again, by that much?
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Duh! Edited from Hummingbird to Snapdragon (got confused-I just picked up an Epic which has Hummingbird). Thanks for correcting.
They both use Snapdragon, Hummingbird is Samsungs CPU codename, it's based on the same architecture but uses a smaller process.
What software are you running?
Same exact problem as OP...this baffles me.
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Systemfraud said:
Same exact problem as OP...this baffles me.
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Is it something new, or has this always been happening?
Was it after the new update or kernel WHATEVER, that you flashed?
If you’re running the stock kernel, do you think the fact that the screen is physically bigger may have something to do with the difference? I’ve always accounted the difference in the battery drain speed (between screen on and screen off) to the fact that most of us are running tweaked kernels that are overclocked when the screen on (with 5 point multi-touch, etc), and underclocked with the screen off.
The problem with battery life issues is that most of the time it can be just a perception and not scientific evidence at all.
Personally, I had an iPhone 3GS prior to getting an EVO and I would say the same exact thing happened with my iPhone. Especially when I was playing games. It doesn't seem to happen with my EVO.
Even seemingly silly things like the Battery Icon can help with the perception that battery life on the phone is bad. Since it only has 4 levels, it kind of tricks your mind into thinking your battery is draining really fast. Try flashing this.
Scientifically, The difference in battery life running the same exact apps under the same exact conditions would be almost negligible between an Evo and a Nexus one. You could even test them side by side and see for yourself.
Also, some facts:
- CDMA 3G is LESS power hungry than HSDPA when actually using it. Heck, EV-DO even uses less power than CDMA 2G(1xRTT)! Wi-Fi uses even less, so use it whenever you can.
- There's a huge misconception that AMOLED Screens use a lot less battery than regular LCDs, but in fact, that's only when the screen is showing LOTS of black color. During a web browser session with lots of white webpage viewing, AMOLED has no Power consumption advantage over LCD.
Signal is a HUGE contributor. I get about 12 hours out of my battery 3-4 out of 5 bars. I went to the sand dunes and had 5 bars and my phone lasted 28 hours.
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Also, some facts:
- CDMA 3G is LESS power hungry than HSDPA when actually using it. Heck, EV-DO even uses less power than CDMA 2G(1xRTT)! Wi-Fi uses even less, so use it whenever you can.
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there are some variables here - my router at home sucks, so I actually get better signal (and battery) with 3g and not wifi unless I'm in the same room as the router. Like the guy above me said, signal plays a huge part in it.
btw, were you really one of the few people that had an n-gage?
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btw, were you really one of the few people that had an n-gage?
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hahaha yeah. Still have it shoved in my closet, actually. I LOVED it.
zeuzinn said:
hahaha yeah. Still have it shoved in my closet, actually. I LOVED it.
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Man that's a lot of phones...
Plancy said:
Is it something new, or has this always been happening?
Was it after the new update or kernel WHATEVER, that you flashed?
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Seems like it's always been problem for me..
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Plancy said:
What software are you running?
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When I run Handcent, N1 uses about 20% less battery over ~400 messages. Browsing sees similar results. No exotic apps and I keep close eye of what is running/syncing in the background.
Plancy said:
Is it something new, or has this always been happening?
Was it after the new update or kernel WHATEVER, that you flashed?
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I too, have seen this from day one, running all stock ROMs.
zeuzinn said:
The problem with battery life issues is that most of the time it can be just a perception and not scientific evidence at all.
Even seemingly silly things like the Battery Icon can help with the perception that battery life on the phone is bad. Since it only has 4 levels, it kind of tricks your mind into thinking your battery is draining really fast.
Scientifically, The difference in battery life running the same exact apps under the same exact conditions would be almost negligible between an Evo and a Nexus one. You could even test them side by side and see for yourself.
Also, some facts:
- CDMA 3G is LESS power hungry than HSDPA when actually using it. Heck, EV-DO even uses less power than CDMA 2G(1xRTT)! Wi-Fi uses even less, so use it whenever you can.
- There's a huge misconception that AMOLED Screens use a lot less battery than regular LCDs, but in fact, that's only when the screen is showing LOTS of black color. During a web browser session with lots of white webpage viewing, AMOLED has no Power consumption advantage over LCD.
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On both phones, I have a % battery gauge. I use both phones in good coverage area and have observed them over weeks of use. I would use one phone for the day, do the exact same thing, use the other phone the next, and consistently see the N1 having 20-30% more battery at the end of the day. I'm thinking of loading "current widget" to see the drain rate between the two phones.
On the subject of radios: I have seen manufatures list longer battery life for EDGE vs. HSPA and the same for 1x over EVDO. Also I [think] usually see longer standby times for a comparable GSM/UTMS phone over CDMA (e.g., Touch Pro2 on GSM/UMTS vs. Touch Pro2 on CDMA).
When one says that EV is less power hungry than 1x, are we talking about a time-use comparison or efficiency? Example: 1Mb download, 1x takes, say, 1 minute, while EV takes 10 seconds. Yes, for that download, EV took less power. But if one were to have 1x & EV both running for one minute, which takes more power? I ask because I remember seeing EV transmitting at higher power than 1x.

Thoughts on YOUR Atrix?

Delete.
i'm very happy with the phone. the only caveat i really have (which a lot of people don't seem to have) is battery life. i get about 13-14 hours with 3-4 hours of display-on time, while others have been reporting double that.
as far as motoblur is concerned, if you just get another launcher and use Titanium Backup Pro to freeze motoblur Home and other services, then you won't even have to think about it.
rdubyah said:
I should be receiving my Atrix for AT&T tomorrow, this will be a HUGGGGGGEEEEEE upgrade from my measly HTC Hero (Sprint CDMA) that I have modified to the ends of the Earth. I'm in need of more power and amazed at the stuff you can do with the Atrix.
My question to you all, has this phone met or surpassed your expectations? Did it fail to achieve those expectations? Tell me what you think of this phone, I have been reading so many reviews about the phone I feel like I know all technological aspects about the phone as well, haha.
How fast were you to get rid of MotoBlur?
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I think I can speak for a lot of people in saying that, as far as the Atrix goes, I am in love with the "potential" this phone has. But as far as meeting those expectations, well, that's something to be debated. There are areas where the dual core shines and other areas it seems it is not harnessing the full power. Then couple that with AT&T's network restrictions and Motorola's lockdown on the device, I'm going to have to say that I am disappointed in the Atrix as of now. That could change if there is a break through in the bootloader or if AT&T gets its act together and starts offering the "High speeds" we were promised. Only problem is though, my 30 days is almost up and I don't know if I can hold onto the phone in hopes of "potential".
Coming from a captivate I love this phone...everything works includi.g the gps. Most of motoblur is gone on my phone. The phone is amazingly fast but does have an occasional hiccup. An unlocked bootloader would turn this into the best available android phone but its one of the top
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live4nyy said:
...Only problem is though, my 30 days is almost up and I don't know if I can hold onto the phone in hopes of "potential".
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I'm in the same boat. In terms of hardware, this phone is a beast. I can even live with the screen quality and the terrible camera. But software side, I am really hoping to see a unlocked bootloader or I might be very tempted to take this phone back...
bleuiko said:
I'm in the same boat. In terms of hardware, this phone is a beast. I can even live with the screen quality and the terrible camera. But software side, I am really hoping to see a unlocked bootloader or I might be very tempted to take this phone back...
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Yeah, I'm high up on the fence because if I do return it I am going to switch carriers as well.
I'm really enjoying it... coming from a Tilt2, it's a major upgrade. Straight out of the box, it's very enjoyable... I'm not dissapointed at all.. it's only going to get better once they get this beast unleashed
Camera is quick and decent.
GPS is amazingly fast...
Browser is snappy and loads everything great
WiFi is a little weak...
and I actually like the screen.. It's not best screen ever made, but it's actually a very nice display.
I was getting terrible battery life, but somehow a hard-reset solved that problem, and i'm able to get more than a day of heavy use no problem.
Just picked up a second one for the wife (coming from an iphone 3g) and she's really enjoying it a lot as well
I like the Atrix. I upgraded from an iPhone 3G. I realize that it's not the best it can be as far as unlocking right now, but it is better than what I had. I only wish I could afford the webtop dock right now for times I'm on the road. Nothing a netbook couldn't fix though.
as far as the battery, it really has to do with what you're doing. I've seen mine go 39 hours over a weekend with normal use, or 16 hours when i'm streaming pandora constantly at work. My building for work also isn't great for signal, so the phone is constantly working for signal, which uses battery.
The other day i did ~5 hours of pandora at work, then fired up the GPS, which was on for ~1.5 hours guiding me, screen on, not plugged in. few phone calls and web use and it was almost dead after 15 hours.
This phone is miles better than the aria i had before it, and it will only get better as more things are updated to take advantage of the tegra 2 platform. Won't matter if this phone gets cracked or not, it will get better and better for a while either way.
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as far as the battery, it really has to do with what you're doing. I've seen mine go 39 hours over a weekend with normal use, or 16 hours when i'm streaming pandora constantly at work. My building for work also isn't great for signal, so the phone is constantly working for signal, which uses battery.
The other day i did ~5 hours of pandora at work, then fired up the GPS, which was on for ~1.5 hours guiding me, screen on, not plugged in. few phone calls and web use and it was almost dead after 15 hours.
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Wow... 39 hours. I get about 17 hours of use from it, which is much better than any other smartphones I've ever used so I'm happy... but I can't imagine hitting that number. I do have bluetooth and wifi on all the time.
I like my Atrix, the only problems i see is that the webtop is very limited, but some people over the developer section are working on that, and also the speeds which since T-Mobile was bought it definitely will become faster alongside with HSPA+ and LTE being utilized together. It has lots of potential to run REALLY great, but this is the first phone of its kind, it'll always have problems in the beginning.
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Wow... 39 hours. I get about 17 hours of use from it, which is much better than any other smartphones I've ever used so I'm happy... but I can't imagine hitting that number. I do have bluetooth and wifi on all the time.
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and that cuts the battery way down. powering all the radios is a large power drain. I never turn on a radio i don't need, so 90% of the time wifi, bluetooth, gps, etc are off. Mobile data is always on, and i i never try and tell it to revert to 2g.
cegna09 said:
as far as the battery, it really has to do with what you're doing. I've seen mine go 39 hours over a weekend with normal use, or 16 hours when i'm streaming pandora constantly at work. My building for work also isn't great for signal, so the phone is constantly working for signal, which uses battery.
The other day i did ~5 hours of pandora at work, then fired up the GPS, which was on for ~1.5 hours guiding me, screen on, not plugged in. few phone calls and web use and it was almost dead after 15 hours.
This phone is miles better than the aria i had before it, and it will only get better as more things are updated to take advantage of the tegra 2 platform. Won't matter if this phone gets cracked or not, it will get better and better for a while either way.
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see... i wish i had that same kind of success.
It's always hard to determine battery life from these posts because people's definition of "moderate" and "heavy" usage differ a lot. This is why it would be nice if the phone had gingerbread where the battery plot actually shows the wake time, wifi time, signal strenth, display on, etc. so people could quote their results rather than just guestimating. The best way to tell is really just display on time since that's pretty much the biggest draw.
Based on my limited testing I can get about 4-5 hours of display on time with auto brightness. The absolute best I could squeeze out of my nexus S is almost 4 hours which is to be expected since it's 1930mah vs. 1500mah. I MIGHT do some battery drain tests before I return the Atrix but I'm not sure... those take time. I know the Nexus S can go about 7-8 hours playing a video while in airplane mode so I'm wondering what the Atrix could achieve.
dinan said:
It's always hard to determine battery life from these posts because people's definition of "moderate" and "heavy" usage differ a lot. This is why it would be nice if the phone had gingerbread where the battery plot actually shows the wake time, wifi time, signal strenth, display on, etc. so people could quote their results rather than just guestimating. The best way to tell is really just display on time since that's pretty much the biggest draw.
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We do have all those indicators in the Battery manager. I average about 13-14 hours with 3-4 hours of display, unless i'm doing something like streaming March Madness via flash, then it drops to like 7 hours with 2-3 hours of display.
Love it.
Honestly out of all the phones i've had this is the main one.
Screen great looking.
Speed is unreal and I mean like lightening fast :O
The games and apps that work just look and run crazy good!
Camera imo is great not going to replace main cameras but great for stills and videos, would be nice to see the 1080p recording update out soon though
Motoblur stuff which I like :O lol can be frozen and a custom launcher introduced without you even thinking about the motoblur lag.
Battery life is very good I can get a whole day at college 8:30 until 6 heavy usage and still get home with 30-40% left which is great to me
Fingerprint reader is also a great little feature that gets yours friends a little jealous lol
Only thing I don't like is the battery door creaks, I know its nothing major but its just a little annoyance other than that the build quality is great very sleek device!
I'm really bored with my Atrix there's no developement community. You can't do **** with a locked bootloader. Even the iphone is more open than this pos. It's going back tommorrow **** motorola.
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@ Exador... Amen brother!!!!
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I'm a firm believer in the "garbage in, garbage out" philosophy. Yes this phone has one or two legitimate issues (touch screen acting up after x seconds continuous touch), but for the most part is good. How many apps do you have installed? How many do you actually use? Every month i clean out my phone of apps that haven't been used in a couple weeks. I usually see a little bump in battery life each time since less apps are itching to use the data connection or other resources.
how many widgets are you running? I don't really notice it on the Atrix, but on my aria when i had 5 home screens riddled with widgets, it was laggy and slow. Drop it down to 2 screens with a simple setup, and it was snappy.
My point is, most of the time, little issues are probably user generated. I see it all the time with computers. But it's way easier to blame the hardware and software than look for the cause of your problem. again, i'm not down playing the few legitimate issues.
next time i pull a 39hour run i'll post specifics of what i was using it for in the battery thread.
I'm very happy with mine. I don't have much of a desire to put a custom ROM on, so the locked bootloader isn't an issue. The speed of this device is just levels beyond my Nexus One. I can't remember a time so far where I've had any lag. Plus, I don't have to worry about app space the way I did with the N1.

[Q] Just want a few quick reminders on Mytouch 4g

Getting one of these this week to try out the whole android craze. So I already know it will have a rather crappy battery life even with better kernels and roms, but is there a way to generally underclock the device to squeeze more juice out of it? And yes, imagine that, I'm NOT cpu speed crazy.
Camera, like most HTC's still sucks for still pictures, correct or wrong? Unless you're a human tripod, they will come out partially blurry and shooting while moving or moving objects sucks. And that annoying whirring zoom mechanism...
Other than that, any other particular quirks and perks I should know about?
Well how much battery life do you look for in a phone per day? Because with heavy usage I can squeeze 12-14 hours out of man and yea camera is blurry with video if there's movement (I/e went to a concert can't see much of anything in the video) but there's many good developers and such out there especially for this device to increase performance and battery life such as faux123's lV kernel, it's low power but you can still over clock to 1.8 ghz and can underclock at 354 MHz which is great for saving battery as you can set up CPU profiles in an app called setcpu so overall there's not too many issues we haven't worked out for this phone its pretty much a great phone for doing anything
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The latest GB Sense camera is the best by far, still a bit of blur with motion but the image quality is easily the best out of any other ROM. When coupled with faux's lv kernel you can get anywhere from 15-48 hours out of it. It's a good phone for an average user, an amazing phone for someone willing to learn.
Willing to learn for sure, but primarily want to have an android phone in case some app comes out that I feel I need. Else I'm usually about business-level productivity and longevity and these almost always translated into candybar qwerty w/ good power management (like my Nokia E72- phone has a ludicrous battery life and lasts me 3-4 days w/ some texting, some calling, some music and net use). But are there any affordable android ones like that, that aren't utter crap? No.
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Willing to learn for sure, but primarily want to have an android phone in case some app comes out that I feel I need. Else I'm usually about business-level productivity and longevity and these almost always translated into candybar qwerty w/ good power management (like my Nokia E72- phone has a ludicrous battery life and lasts me 3-4 days w/ some texting, some calling, some music and net use). But are there any affordable android ones like that, that aren't utter crap? No.
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My best ever was 3 days and 15 hours on a single charge with light to moderate usage over a weekend. This was on CM7 with the stock CM kernel. In my experience the best way to save battery is be connected to wifi anywhere there is wifi because your phone will not be constantly scanning for a better data signal.
Or to turn off all data unless you gotta use it. Still looking for a decent rom for this thing....
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Or to turn off all data unless you gotta use it. Still looking for a decent rom for this thing....
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In terms of battery performance, RoyalGinger is the best rom out there!
I use Elite Sense 2.6V(unthemed) and battery life has been stunning for me(245min & 900Max), the performance is still rather quick at 900. I use 3D games, music, friendstream, phone, browser, 4G, and I still get through the day. I do turn off b/g data since I sync everything manually when I feel it's needed, or I need to use the market for app upgrades and whatnot.
And do sim contacts show up alright on Elite Sense? Royalginger failed me with sim reading, so as bare-bone as it is, don't want to use that one.
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And do sim contacts show up alright on Elite Sense? Royalginger failed me with sim reading, so as bare-bone as it is, don't want to use that one.
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That should work but I keep my contacts on my gmail account, since I've been using android for some years,i stop putting them on the sim.
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itmustbejj said:
My best ever was 3 days and 15 hours on a single charge with light to moderate usage over a weekend. This was on CM7 with the stock CM kernel. In my experience the best way to save battery is be connected to wifi anywhere there is wifi because your phone will not be constantly scanning for a better data signal.
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Or instead...turn off wifi AND data when you dont need it?
Yea, best way is NO data and 2G only.

Battery life discussion thread

There doesn't seem to be a thread for discussing battery life, so here you go.
I've been quite happy with it, lasting 2 days on average before it needs a charge with light to medium use (Messaging, web browsing, email)
Few battery charts: http://imgur.com/a/d0V2F
the priv battery have been good with me, it can last a day full without charge, a heavy use of gaming also can last a day
I've had opposite results with my battery. I get about 6 hours with light to medium use. I've only had it a two days so I'm assuming like all my other androids it's get better after some use and a few recharges.
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kamileon said:
I've had opposite results with my battery. I get about 6 hours with light to medium use. I've only had it a two days so I'm assuming like all my other androids it's get better after some use and a few recharges.
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Theres a few things that also improve battery life significantly, going into developer options and changing transitions to .5 or off completely, and if your in an area that doesnt have GSM or CDMA, you should turn that option off in your network signals.
I think theres a really good post on crackberry for it
http://crackberry.com/ten-tips-and-...ery-life?_ga=1.242249799.473049905.1448047720
thats a general info battery life post
Cryptongolem said:
Theres a few things that also improve battery life significantly, going into developer options and changing transitions to .5 or off completely, and if your in an area that doesnt have GSM or CDMA, you should turn that option off in your network signals.
I think theres a really good post on crackberry for it
http://crackberry.com/ten-tips-and-...ery-life?_ga=1.242249799.473049905.1448047720
thats a general info battery life post
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I'll check it out, thanks
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Theres a few things that also improve battery life significantly, going into developer options and changing transitions to .5 or off completely, and if your in an area that doesnt have GSM or CDMA, you should turn that option off in your network signals.
I think theres a really good post on crackberry for it
http://crackberry.com/ten-tips-and-...ery-life?_ga=1.242249799.473049905.1448047720
thats a general info battery life post
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Why would animation scale improve battery?
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From what i've read on numerous forums, the battery level drains a lot faster when subjected to certain task. For example, gaming does not seem to put a huge amount of strain on the device or battery, however general web browsing does.
Same goes for the heating issue - I've yet to actually document what puts the device under strain causing battery life issues.
For me - as a rule, the battery isn't so great. It's better than the Z5 which I sent back, but around 2/3 as good as my Moto X Play. I'd expect the device to be lasting a LOT longer given the battery capacity (near on par with the MXP) however, as mentioned there are certain tasks which seem to drain the battery quicker than others.
I usually get around 3.5-4 hours screen on time a day out of a full charge.
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Theres a few things that also improve battery life significantly, going into developer options and changing transitions to .5 or off completely, and if your in an area that doesnt have GSM or CDMA, you should turn that option off in your network signals.
I think theres a really good post on crackberry for it
http://crackberry.com/ten-tips-and-...ery-life?_ga=1.242249799.473049905.1448047720
thats a general info battery life post
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Most of these will make tiny differences that wont really save the battery life enough for an end user to notice. Things such as scaling down animations will help with the performance slightly which, yes, will affect the battery but we're talking 1-2mAh per day.
Yeah I'm noticing pretty stinky battery life on this guy compared to my G4 which is weird because they both have an 808 and the battery is larger on the Priv along with a smaller screen. Really like the phone overall but I'm not at all enthused by having to charge this thing constantly. Plus it's always running hot for me even if I'm only using it to respond to a text message or two. Really not happy to have to return it. Also seems to get laggy for me on Google Chrome which is lame. Very high potential phone I just dont have the time to wait and wait for updates to fix the battery and heat issues.
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Yeah I'm noticing pretty stinky battery life on this guy compared to my G4 which is weird because they both have an 808 and the battery is larger on the Priv along with a smaller screen. Really like the phone overall but I'm not at all enthused by having to charge this thing constantly. Plus it's always running hot for me even if I'm only using it to respond to a text message or two. Really not happy to have to return it. Also seems to get laggy for me on Google Chrome which is lame. Very high potential phone I just dont have the time to wait and wait for updates to fix the battery and heat issues.
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That's a shame you're going to return it but understandable - I am confident that BB will improve the battery performance over time, but it's just a case of when. The pro's of the phone (power, speed, screen, camera etc) outweigh the need for a good battery life for me.
Keep us posted.
Agreed. I really liked the phone but mine gets hot and laggy and I've got the screen click in the bottom left corner and the back has that strange hollow feeling that seems to be complained about all over Crackberry. It could even just be a t-mobile thing but I don't want to take my chances especially when the phone is so expensive. Fingers crossed that they release an awesome update or skmething for this phone, though. But with just 25 minutes of screen on time (phone on for just one hour total) I've lost nearly 20% battery. Can't figure it out either. Brightness all the way down, Bluetooth and WiFi off, Gmail sync off, WiFi calling disabled, BBM disabled and it still is hot as could be and eating battery. What I would do to have access to wake lock detector!
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From what i've read on numerous forums, the battery level drains a lot faster when subjected to certain task. For example, gaming does not seem to put a huge amount of strain on the device or battery, however general web browsing does.
Same goes for the heating issue - I've yet to actually document what puts the device under strain causing battery life issues.
For me - as a rule, the battery isn't so great. It's better than the Z5 which I sent back, but around 2/3 as good as my Moto X Play. I'd expect the device to be lasting a LOT longer given the battery capacity (near on par with the MXP) however, as mentioned there are certain tasks which seem to drain the battery quicker than others.
I usually get around 3.5-4 hours screen on time a day out of a full charge.
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Most of these will make tiny differences that wont really save the battery life enough for an end user to notice. Things such as scaling down animations will help with the performance slightly which, yes, will affect the battery but we're talking 1-2mAh per day.
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Truly, after completing all of these battery tips, i didnt even do every one on that list, but changing the sync + radio + animations has DRAMATICALLY increased my battery life, went from half day to full day without charge. Radio definitely seemed to be a HUGE drain when trying to access GSM in my area. animations i cant say made a huge increase but the phone is SO much quicker, felt slow and laggy with it on.
Ok, so I have been running my phone a few days now with the new setup. I am now getting 11 - 12 hours of battery with moderate use. That's about twice what I was getting. So it's now comparable to battery life of other phones I had.
So I have the T-Mobile variant, the SVT100-1. My guess was it was all the bloat ware TMo put on the device that was eating g battery. Here is a list of the apps I disabled, since we will probably not getting root and won't be able to uninstall them.
Lookout (BlackBerry App)
Mobile money(TMo)
TMobile My Account
TMobile TV
Visual Voicemail (TMo)
Yahoo Finance
Blackberry Help
A few of the Google keyboard input languages (these more for space nothing performance)
Over the next few days I will enable each one to see if it effects battery life so I can determine which one is killing battery.
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kamileon said:
I've had opposite results with my battery. I get about 6 hours with light to medium use. I've only had it a two days so I'm assuming like all my other androids it's get better after some use and a few recharges.
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what you facing the problem as same as for me also.but I had 3months now only it's like that previously it's good only.
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Over the next few days I will enable each one to see if it effects battery life so I can determine which one is killing battery.
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Were you able to narrow it down at all?
I'm getting around 4-5 hrs of screen on time - around 16 hrs with moderate use. I notice it heats up quite a bit while on chrome.
Hoping the update to marshmallow will help with the advanced standby feature for apps. Wifes s7 edge has crazy battery life and it only has a couple hundred more mAH capacity. Going to try enabling only 4g/3g since it looks like I have weak LTE signal everywhere I go.
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