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So, I've gone out and bought the MyTouch 3g Slide, and most likely won't be going back to use my G1 as my daily driver. I have no plans to sell the G1, well, not yet anyways.
So what can be done with my G1? I was thinking of maybe using it as a navigation-only device. Problem is, with no SIM, I of course would need a nav system that stores the maps on the SD card. The phone is rooted, so I was wondering whats the best way to try and trim this phone down to almost nothing, so that all it will basically be able to do is load the nav app I install. Is this possible or already done?
I really liked this device. It did pop my Android cherry after all, and I don't just want it to collect dust.
Thanks in advance.
Edit: I intentionally posted this in General, but after re-reading this, would it make more sense to post this in the Development forum? Can a mod move it if so...?
put it in a box and ship it to me this way your not selling it.... your giving it away
yeah... send it my way. My kid has been ogling my G1 forever now. He wants one soooo bad. LOL.
OK, aside from selling it, or giving it away, what else...
I've often thought of what to do with my G1 when and if a successor becomes available.
I personally would love it if some developers could get together to make a rom that would resemble what the Ipod Touch is to the Iphone. All the programs and games, no phone bits. Just use it as a personal media player. Or in my case, i use it as a wifi remote for my HTPC also.
Oh, and does it make you wonder..when 2.2 source is available to the public, would trimming out all the telephone parts make the G1(with dangerspl) upgradeable again?
Cancel your home landline, put google voice on the g1, keep it connected to wi-fi all the time, and you got free nation wide calling and a cheap international calling. Also since it is connected to wi-fi, you can still use it as a phone.
Send it to me pretty please (I need to update my N95).
... Okay fine, how about charity?
LOL ...no?
Well aside from using it as:
a second phone,
Digital camera (poor one),
PMP/iPod (listen to music/watch pictures/videos),
Portable gaming console (Atari, C64, Sega Genesis, GBA, SNES and Android games),
Home entertainment unit (surf on your couch with wifi) and
eBook reader (nonetheless poorly).
I can't think of anything else.
If you can't find another use for it besides just a mobile phone, you're really missing out and should just post it to me
Definitly new ipod or home phone
there's a pretty nifty howto over at instructables.com on using the G1 to power a home-made robot
http://www.instructables.com/id/Android-G1-Serial-To-Arduino/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=541177&highlight=wifi+talk
I have mine on wifi and setup like this.. pretty cool as I now can use it as separate phone while at work, home etc .. and with the app penetrate I get even more use of the wifi
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I've often thought of what to do with my G1 when and if a successor becomes available.
I personally would love it if some developers could get together to make a rom that would resemble what the Ipod Touch is to the Iphone. All the programs and games, no phone bits. Just use it as a personal media player. Or in my case, i use it as a wifi remote for my HTPC also.
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Ya know, I am planning on upgrading to the Touch Slide or whatever in a few months when I can afford it...when I do, I might just whip something up ROM wise that has no phone bits, but strictly media apps like:
WIFI Remote for various HTPC frontends (XBMC, MediaPortal, etc)
Music Apps (stock music, 3, etc)
Anything else I can think of
I think that would be a fun project. And considering everything in my home is OpenSource, it shouldn't be all that hard to find (or create) all the apps I need.
That sir, would be pimp.
But to cut down the rom size why not make those a flashable addon? Make it so they install to sd automatically maybe? The biggest thing would be to fit 2.2 on the phone, with support for apps to sd, jit, and all the other delicious froyo goodness.
Thanks for listening.
Use it as a dedicated SIP phone in wifi areas.
First get a google voice number and a gizmo5 sip number.
Forward your GV number to your regular cell number as well as your gizmo5 sip number using sipdroid (market) on the G1, so that when you're in wifi areas both your cell and your g1 will ring. Now you can answer either based on whatever... caller, importance, etc.
Make outgoing calls in wifi using all of the above and the GV callback program (market) so as to make totally free calls. Add some money to google voice for international.
Use it on the tabletop like a pda and take calls on your cell. actually very convenient. I've got a clamshell which I prefer for talking and can take more abuse than the G1.
Get a Tmobile $100 prepaid sim which is good for a year. That's 10c min and your own number for a year! ..and if you add any money to it the expiration is extended to a year from the add. At that price you can throw it in the car for 11 months and forget about it only to switch it to another phone later.
Put 2 grooves in it and call it an ashtray. -Bill Cosby
i have a retired htc magician which i am using as an alarm clock and listening to audio books. It served me well over the years. Was my first HTC phone. Battery still lasts more than a week...
Does it exist on tis tab?
how about on
http://www.sierrawireless.com/Newsr...Wireless_4G_LTE_Mobile_Broadband_Network.aspx
which may be the card going in the xoom?
Lastly if the hardware exists on an lte device, should it be possible to make calls work by switching the sim card with a lte phone sim?
I think that if you would like to place phone calls with your Xoom using the cell radio its possible to find a way. Verizon might not be happy with it.
However, Its the hard way to place calls.
Sigh up with a VoIP provider, and use a SIP Client.
I like a provider named Vitelity. You can port your number to them if you would like. They are very inexpensive, and very reliable. (or use Skype, or anyone else.)
Then, use a SIP dialer and a Bluetooth headset on your Xoom. I am doing just that using Verizon 3g and it works great.
I have signed up for skype and have a number, but skype seems to have no interest in real BT support, neither does Google. If I could force Skype to use the mic on a BT< I could likely live with it, but AFAIK that is not possible.
This all be in another forum, however I am using CSIPSimple and it supports my plantronic BT voyager 510, (on Honeycomb)
http://www.plantronics.com/us/product/voyager-510&skuId=sku4610016
And, CSIPSimple opens the default Android Dialer (Which is in Honeycomb) to send and receive calls.
Would you mind testing it to be sure?
If so, place a call, leave your pad and walk like 15 feet and see if you are still heard.
Please don't be offended, I have just had WAY to many people say the same thing as you, only to find out A2DP let them hear, and they were using the tab mic without knowing it.
Hmmm.. I will check later tonight. That is a good question.
Thanks young... anyone else use csip too?
The hardware is capable, the problem is with the provisioning. Verizon adds feature codes to block voice and SMS on their tablet data plans.
what stops us from switching sims later to make our tablets look like a phone?
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what stops us from switching sims later to make our tablets look like a phone?
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There is no sim to switch.
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So then? Any tablet outside of the us ( or Verizon) is able
To standard phonecalls?
I'm in the uk and I was planning to buy the 3g version but if I still have to carry a phone to txt or call, i'll choose the WiFi one, save 200 bucks, and tether with my nexus when needed although I'm not very happy with the idea of carrying multiple devices...
Btw , 3g version has been priced in.....600 pounds! What are they playing at? If I finally choose wifionly I'll buy for sure in the US, screw carphone and pcworld..
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I think you are asking a question that no one can answer at the moment.
LTE does use a SIM card, but, NO devices are currently available on Verizon's LTE network yet, so no one knows what happens if you switch LTE SIM cards between devices.
I also think that LTE devices use a VoIP type of voice connection, something different then how voice is done on CDMA. This new type of connection allows data and Voice to operate at the same time. This functionality, this Software dialer stack would need to be included in Honeycomb, which is not a phone Android distribution.
Young dud you test the bluetooth mic with csip?
Yes. I I have found is that I do have two way audio, all on the Bluetooth headset using csip, I walked around my house, leaving the Xoom several rooms away.
While in WiFi, Bluetooth audio was sketchy at best. For most calls, I could not get the headset in engage for the call. While in the call I would press Bluetooth on the dialer, and nothing would happen, or the audio would cut in and out, before engaging, or a few times I would have to press 'Speaker", then Bluetooth, then Speaker again before it would engage. When it would engage in WiFi I did have two way audio.
While in 3G, with WiFi Off, the connection with Bluetooth was perfect every time. No issues. The call call quality overall was a bit less then with WiFi, however Bluetooth worked correctly.
UPDATE: I just had a bad Bluetooth connection issue on 3G. So, it is spotty. It might be because CSip uses the default Android dialer which might be incomplete in some way on Honeycomb.
I should try another SIP app. But Bluetooth does have two way audio when I can get it to connect.
as we all know, the AT&T Atrix has problem with most VOIP softare. Just wondering if the Canadian Bell version is also experiencing the same problem? If not, that means AT&T is doing more than just turning off HSUPA...
I bought a Bell Atrix two days ago and I am DEFINITELY having issue with Skype either thru. WiFi or 3G connection. I am unable to make clear calls and often encountered LOUD STATIC sound on the earpiece.
Please assist...
RN-Eric said:
I bought a Bell Atrix two days ago and I am DEFINITELY having issue with Skype either thru. WiFi or 3G connection. I am unable to make clear calls and often encountered LOUD STATIC sound on the earpiece.
Please assist...
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No can't do at this moment. Need to wait for Motorola to sort this VOIP issue.
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Well, I really do hope Motorola will address this issue...
IM+ Talk Skype Calling
Just an update to using the newly purchased IM+ Talk, a web-based Skype calling service. Well, it took me a whopping two-hour to figure out how to make calls and it was super frustrating...I subsequently had to purchase another Skype subscription (unlimited world, in addition to my original unlimited calls to Hong Kong plan) because of the call-back feature IM+ Talk uses.
So how it works is that you enter the CALL BACK number of the device you are calling on, enter the number you want to call, press the CALL button, and then your device will ring. Answer the call and you will then hear your number connecting. I don't know how to clearly explain it but it works on my Atrix thru. 3G connection
.Eric
im using an att atrix on Fido in canada and i can use skype just fine. i think its att network that is blocking this somehow not the atrix itself or maybe the combination of the two. so if a bell atrix allows voip on bell network it might still not work on att network.
I am using a Bell Atrix on Rogers and am having a hard time using the Skype for Android to work properly. I previously used Skype on my iPhone 4 (also on Rogers) and it worked like a charm...
I am surprised that it's working for you on Fido. There is a big thread from the Motorola support forum that discusses about this issue.
BELL Atrix ain't working on Fido. none of VOIP apps is, tried Tango, Skype from Market, Skype hacked for 3G, SIPDroid Csip, Fring........
Sux....
sorry I made a mistake. it doesn't work for me the sound is horrible. I only install and made a call and assume it was working.
If the problem with Skype is sound quality it may be that Skype needs updating to support the phone properly. In my experience with Galaxy S the sound quality was horrendous for the first while (that Skype was even functional) until updates sorted things out. Actually it took a while to even be able to login, when it could first be installed it wouldn't accept any login info. Picky program.
Atrix, Skype, IM+, ClickTalk, Tango vs Bad Audio
I've the same problem as all you and i've try the following apps like Skype, Skype(3G), IM+, ClickTalk, Tango and Yahoo....
All exept the Yahoo is work badly with the audio, it cutting off and here i'm talking about using WIFI connection ... with the 3G forget about-it.
Only Yahoo look to get a good result and not mentionning that only the Qvix, Yahoo and Tango as the Video working correctly
As winner the Yahoo Video and Audio work over WIFI.
I'm using also the SMSSpeak, Call Annoncer and EmailSpeak, the playback are for unknown reason playing back too fast. To fix Reboot the phone, i think the audio driver as something to do here too.
I've read also for our Bell Canadian friend that the Firmware is out of date... like far away ... AT&T as the patch to fix this problem of audio in the next release 1.57 and BELL CACA is still at the Beta 0.83 no fix planned!
After chatting with a tech at Motorola we can't dream for a new version until the new kernel will be availlable to get the Android 2.3 (What a great one i was using this on a real google G1 this is a real charm) ... So since we known that BELL, ATT and Motorola are not reading our note, it's useless to try the get them to move ... exept to get everyone who as a Atrix to Call/Email/Fax Motorola,Bell,ATT,Fido ....
and btw Moto is coming with a new phone... they act like this is just junk hardware like a batterie. Change phone to fix.
My Note 2 stopped working on Friday night and wouldn't turn on. A bit of searching on here and I appear to have got me Sudden Death Syndrome - I thought that was a thing of the past. So, it's going to the service centre later but this weekend I got the chance to try my 10.1 as my only mobile device.
This is something I had given thought to anyway and I thought it would be fine. This wasn't to be the case. I found that wondering around doing normal day-to-day activities was not conducive to having a tablet with me at all times. I don't always carry a bag so a pocketable device is still important.
I gave in and bought a "disposable" £30 phone on Sunday while passing CPW (a Samsung, coincidentally, as the equiv Nokia was £10 more).
It was an interesting way to find out two devices will be required
Thanks for the blog post.
I read it and thoroughly enjoyed it.
It makes me think that you have potential in running a social blogging network, and perhaps be the boss of a profitable blogging enterprise.
Perhaps you can float on an exchange one day and we can all invest in your company.
I'm using GV (which lets me have one outgoing number on all my Telephony-capable devices) and will sometimes just use the phone (usually in Speaker mode) when I need to make a quick call. Works fine. Get a BT headset and you could get away with not having a "real" phone for a while.
try TextPlus
I downloaded it when my phone died. Worked great as a temp phone.
Same here been using gv for a while now and haven't used my phone since.. I'm thinking about getting it turned off permanently since I'm Always around wifi or a hotspot..plus I don't talk on the phone.. Just text and internet 90% of the time
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Hey guys. Im confused. I use gv number as my regular number. How would I use it on my 10.1? From my understanding of gv, it needs to be routed to another number or your gmail address (which I have obitalk for landline using this feature) Is there a way to use the gv app to specifically make calls via wifi on 10.1? Im using talkatone for that but its glitchy. Thanks.
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Is there a way to use the gv app to specifically make calls via wifi on 10.1?
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I couldn't tell ya- I have an 8000, which has a GSM radio in it and can get/make phone calls (and texts), so when I make an outgoing GV call, it uses the phone built into the Note (and it shows up as my GV number vs. the random number the SIM I use in it has).
I have no idea how Internet calling is done via GV (but I know some people do it).
WRichieX said:
Hey guys. Im confused. I use gv number as my regular number. How would I use it on my 10.1? From my understanding of gv, it needs to be routed to another number or your gmail address (which I have obitalk for landline using this feature) Is there a way to use the gv app to specifically make calls via wifi on 10.1? Im using talkatone for that but its glitchy. Thanks.
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The simplest option is groove ip, the progran registers to your gv account. The developer bought a note and worked diligently to address a bug created in the JB update and the program works flawlessly now. Here's a link to the thread where the developer posted a link to the updated app. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2107867&page=5
WRichieX said:
Hey guys. Im confused. I use gv number as my regular number. How would I use it on my 10.1? From my understanding of gv, it needs to be routed to another number or your gmail address (which I have obitalk for landline using this feature) Is there a way to use the gv app to specifically make calls via wifi on 10.1? Im using talkatone for that but its glitchy. Thanks.
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Use google voice app too.. It allows text messaging unlike groove ip...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.googlevoice
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I have google voice account set up to use my cell phone number on my tablet... THen have Grove IP tou use my google voice accounts phone number.. so my cell phone number is not given out but calls are routed thru that number .. Makes call quality better.. Considering getting rid of my home phone and using google voice via grove ip for home phone service..
Anyone know a Good Internet faxing app or site that keeps my stuff MY STUFF and does not spam the fax numbers you send too.. ??
Good luck all
Workaround for UK users
If you are in the UK and are a BT customer with a landline you can use their app BT SmartTalk:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bt.voiceapps.homeaway
I have been using this on my Samsung Galaxy Camera to make calls and it works surprisingly well as long as you are in a WiFi hotspot somewhere. It's limited to outgoing calls only but it's a workaround if your mobile phone dies in some way.
You can use it on more than one device but you can only attach it to your one BT account. It's very easy to setup.
Kind of a strange thread. This is what OP originally said that started the discussion.
"...this weekend I got the chance to try my 10.1 as my only mobile device."
Assuming OP has a N8000 it is a phone. And the dialer is a multiview app so you can use the phone feature while still doing other things on the Note like jotting down notes or referencing a document without toggling between apps. Obviously, due to the Note's size, you're not going to hold it up to your ear. You can use it as a speaker phone or with a BT headset including the HM5100 BT S Pen. Used that way it's as valid as any other device as a phone and S Voice over BT is incredibly helpful. I'll sometimes forward calls and MMS from my phone to my Note so I only have to carry one device. Unlike OP, I tend to take my Note pretty much everywhere and the Book Cover case adds very little size or weight and functions well as a stand or prop for using the on-screen keyboard. I probably could use the Note as dedicated phone but a phone is a phone and a tablet is a tablet and each have strengths and weaknesses.
As for VoIP calling, the Note's no different than any other Wi-Fi enabled mobile device and all can be used with a variety of apps for voice calls and MMS. The only difference, as noted above, the Note's form factor makes it less than ideal as a primary communication device.
One advantage of the Note either in 3G form or using VoIP is its battery life compared to a phone that typically has a battery 2/3 smaller. That and the two forward facing speakers make it a great speaker phone. So in the end it all comes down to people's view on carrying something as large as the Note around to use as a communication device. Functionally it’s as good as anything else out there.
just pack a bigger purse and bluetooth .
BarryH_GEG said:
Kind of a strange thread. This is what OP originally said that started the discussion.
"...this weekend I got the chance to try my 10.1 as my only mobile device."
Assuming OP has a N8000 it is a phone. And the dialer is a multiview app so you can use the phone feature while still doing other things on the Note like jotting down notes or referencing a document without toggling between apps. Obviously, due to the Note's size, you're not going to hold it up to your ear. You can use it as a speaker phone or with a BT headset including the HM5100 BT S Pen. Used that way it's as valid as any other device as a phone and S Voice over BT is incredibly helpful. I'll sometimes forward calls and MMS from my phone to my Note so I only have to carry one device. Unlike OP, I tend to take my Note pretty much everywhere and the Book Cover case adds very little size or weight and functions well as a stand or prop for using the on-screen keyboard. I probably could use the Note as dedicated phone but a phone is a phone and a tablet is a tablet and each have strengths and weaknesses.
As for VoIP calling, the Note's no different than any other Wi-Fi enabled mobile device and all can be used with a variety of apps for voice calls and MMS. The only difference, as noted above, the Note's form factor makes it less than ideal as a primary communication device.
One advantage of the Note either in 3G form or using VoIP is its battery life compared to a phone that typically has a battery 2/3 smaller. That and the two forward facing speakers make it a great speaker phone. So in the end it all comes down to people's view on carrying something as large as the Note around to use as a communication device. Functionally it’s as good as anything else out there.
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This is so true.. use a bluetooth device and keep the tablet in my Purse.. is how i use my nexus 7 and could do the same with 10 in just pack a slightly bigger purse ..
That was sort of my point. When the N8000 is my tablet and my phone is in my pocket I don't notice. When I have to, effectively, carry the tablet everywhere not having a pocketable phone it imposes limitations on me that I wasn't aware of. Bluetooth range is well and good - I had my old Jawbone and the car handsfree kits too - but if you are just quickly popping out of the house or you want to just wander off with no baggage, literally, then the 10.1 is just too big.
90% of the time I have both devices within reach but it's that 10% that showed me that my lifestyle (for want of a better word) doesn't quite allow me to use only the 10.1 as my sole mobile device.
I am waiting for the HM-5100 to be an official UK device so the price drops and it will be cute, but my original plan to stop using the phone and use just the tablet got a very sudden reality check (for me - you are all different, of course).
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When I have to ... carry the tablet everywhere ...
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Wait- there's people who don't?! :cyclops:
I've noticed that the Nexus 4 is unusable for VoIP calls due to no echo cancellation, and no background noise filtering (using the second microphone). This issue occurs for all VoIP calls, no matter the client. Some clients attempt to fix this with software filtering, etc, but none do a very good job.
Please star the following issue on the Android bug tracker to bring this to Google's attention. https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=41626 The following comment provides more details on the issue:
SIP is unusable on the Nexus 4 because the device doesn't provide an AcousticEchoCanceler[1], AutomaticGainControl[2] or NoiseSuppressor[3]. Additionally, the VOICE_COMMUNICATION[4] audio source designed for VoIP applications returns the same audio as if the application asked for raw microphone data, which is completely unusable for VoIP calls.
The reason cell calls sound good is because the cellular phone takes advantage of the second microphone on the device to perform background noise cancellation and presumably has a hardware chip for echo cancellation. Why these necessary items are not exposed via the APIs listed below on Google's flagship phone is a mystery to me.
Also, the reason SIP is still pretty good on the Galaxy Nexus is because it provides implementations for the AcousticEchoCanceler, AutomaticGainControl and NoiseSuppressor. So even though it doesn't have a second microphone, it does some processing on the audio (via hardware or software) to make it usable for a call. The Nexus 4 provides none of this.
[1] http://developer.android.com/reference/android/media/audiofx/AcousticEchoCanceler.html
[2] http://developer.android.com/reference/android/media/audiofx/AutomaticGainControl.html
[3] http://developer.android.com/reference/android/media/audiofx/NoiseSuppressor.html
[4] http://developer.android.com/refere...Recorder.AudioSource.html#VOICE_COMMUNICATION
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Have other people noticed this issue. I've noticed it with the stock SIP client, sipdroid, csipsimple, and Talkatone.
I have only used GrooVe IP, and it works fine with stock settings.
I use sipdroid and it works well. No complaints.
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Try talkatone. Works well most of the time for me.
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While indeed it is an issue, I'm seeing good enough results with sipdroid using gsm codec. Did run into major issues recently because newer cm nightlies changed mcast filtering / ARP. Manually revert that and its fine again. At the least, I've struggled with sip calls with many phones in the past and this is the smoothest experience yet (never had the gnex).
Note I used to use speex for its obvious benefits over gsm but gsm seems to work fine for me and I figure it may be less CPU intensive
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Try making a call outside, or with background noise. When I make a call while walking down the street, or in a windy location, the background noise is quite loud for the other person. I've tried several different clients and configurations, and all of them have this issue. The problem is that the phone is not filtering out background noise using the second microphone, and software can only attempt to make this better.
Slightly old thread here, sorry, but I'm wondering if anyone has tried using the built-in VOIP functionality. I currently have a T989 but am considering Mako, and I always had better results using CM10's built-in VOIP than with GrooveIP (i.e. people would complain a whole lot about static and echo when I used GrooveIP). Can anyone comment on this?
I agree. Tried all voip apps from market: groove, talkatone, spare phone, vonage, Skype. Terrible results. I did find one that is working great though (knock on wood): EverVoice. Tried it over the last few days and haven't had any problems on wifi and T-Mobile 4g.
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I agree. Tried all voip apps from market: groove, talkatone, spare phone, vonage, Skype. Terrible results. I did find one that is working great though (knock on wood): EverVoice. Tried it over the last few days and haven't had any problems on wifi and T-Mobile 4g.
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Edit: Spoke too soon. EverVoice is unreliable also. Decided to just ditch google voice and add prepaid minutes to tmobile 30 dollar prepaid unlimited plan.
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Slightly old thread here, sorry, but I'm wondering if anyone has tried using the built-in VOIP functionality. I currently have a T989 but am considering Mako, and I always had better results using CM10's built-in VOIP than with GrooveIP (i.e. people would complain a whole lot about static and echo when I used GrooveIP). Can anyone comment on this?
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Built in voip also echos for me on the Nexus 4. I wondering if regular voice calls go through a different chip or something that does echo cancellation. Is it possible that this chip isn't available for voip?
I am using the built in SIP client with Callcentric. I was using SipSorcery, but I had "no audio" issues on HSPA. Callcentric is NYC based (as am I) so the latency is much better, and echo is reduced as well. My only suggestion is find a SIP server with the lowest ping / least hops.
Skype was excellent on my Nexus S, but has a lot of issues on my N4, so I scrapped it.
For those of you who want the best quality out of your $30 smartphone plan, I made a 12-part video tutorial showing how to do it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9DzN1Pu6-Q&list=PLE_de-PBwrTSUMm-Y48aiOOHt_YyT69t0
It's much better than GrooveIP, Vonage, Talkatone, Pbxes.org, and everything else, especially those with the "one big green button" solution.
This method gives you HD Voice (G.722 codec), bettery battery life, and much better options for logging/blocking/recording. You can even set up hold music. Yup, I said hold music.
It used to be difficult to set up until I made it as clear as the nose on your face in the video tutorial (with actual commentary instead of techno music).
Spread the word if you do it and it works out for you. I believe everyone deserves high quality and limitless VoIP WiFi/4g calling.
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For those of you who want the best quality out of your $30 smartphone plan, I made a 12-part video tutorial showing how to do it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9DzN1Pu6-Q&list=PLE_de-PBwrTSUMm-Y48aiOOHt_YyT69t0
It's much better than GrooveIP, Vonage, Talkatone, Pbxes.org, and everything else, especially those with the "one big green button" solution.
This method gives you HD Voice (G.722 codec), bettery battery life, and much better options for logging/blocking/recording. You can even set up hold music. Yup, I said hold music.
It used to be difficult to set up until I made it as clear as the nose on your face in the video tutorial (with actual commentary instead of techno music).
Spread the word if you do it and it works out for you. I believe everyone deserves high quality and limitless VoIP WiFi/4g calling.
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I did this method....works very good except for an echo....
I fixed the echo(over 3g) on the nEXUS 4 doing this:
Csimple has an option to enable software control or volume instead of the android OS/hardware.....enable it...I suspect that fixed it combined with the following:
Echo cancellation(never worked until ti checked the above....works great now) in Csimple.
Faux kernel or something compatible with his software for fixing audio gain.
Faux sounds and Faux speakers app. I chose the quality preset plus my own sleight modifications and also the voice setting for speakers.
Echo was annihilated.....I also tried voice audio detection but I didn't like it...
I posted this in the PIAF thread since I used that method but this will help you guys as well.
Nexus 4 SIP echo fix - It's pretty bad for many users but this solved it 100% for me
It worked for me and I tested numerous different setting and configurations along with measuring my latency to ensure it works. YMMV but it's easy to try. At first I thought it was a Latency issue since echo didn't occur over wifi but with ping times lower than 60ms I still got echo over 3g without this method.
I'm using the silk codec(Silk 24 wifi/Silk 12 or 16 over 3g/4g); YMMV with other codecs.
*Before starting*
Root your phone, flash radio .27 or .33 if your on T-mobile or in Canada: We want to enable Nexus 4g! 3g is usually fine but 4g tends to have significantly lower latency(3G: 50-70ms versus 4g: 20-40ms). Sometimes my 3g speed was fine but latency sucks(100-250+ms)....3g has enough speed for VoIP but any latency issues/spikes/jumps will ruin a call.
This is a good guide to follow: Hippowise"s guide
For the first few steps plus a audio fix some users encountered with the radio downgrade; there are 2 scripts you can run via any terminal emulator app scripter(I used this $Scripter). The actual Script to be run can be found on XDA in the nexus 4 LTE thread(download or save them as txt files). The XML file I suggest editing your self(I just replaced all instances of epc.t-mobile with fast.t-mobile for T-mo users).
If said "scripting...wut?" just follow Hippowise's guide to the tee. Scripting is just faster/easier.
It took a few days for my 4g/LTE to kick in so be patient; It's worth the trouble!
**Now to the guide**
First, get the Faux kernel for Nexus 4 or use another kernel that has applied his patch.
2nd, get his apps from the Play store(they cost money but worth it): Faux Speakers and Faux Sound: Configure them for "voice" and "quality" respectively(you can adjust on your own from there, I upped the gain a bit).
3rd, Use Csipsimple and enable "Software volume control" instead of the default android/os/hardware based volume/gain control. I wonder if this bypasses Faux and puts volume control solely in the hands of Csipsimple. I would do 1-3 steps anyway because it fixes the SQ issues in general with the nexus 4.
4th. Enable Echo cancellation; until I did the previous steps, echo cancelation didn't work at all: YMMV.
I choose Echo mode Webrtc becuase Speex echo cancellation didn't work for me. If your codecs are different the other choices or auto might work better. Experiement.
5th: *Optional*
Noise Cancelation: Worked so-so....didn't need so I turned off
Voice Detection: I didn't like it but experiement.
Compact SIP packets: I use it, optional
STUN: I turned it on, I don't think it will hurt.
Audio troubleshooting in the Csip menu has tons of options to mess with. If all else fails, read some guides and experiment. I didn't need to chance anything here but some of it looks promising and has some fixes for specific models like the galaxy.
7th: Latency
Get Speedtest app from the play store and test your speed. In some areas over 3g I would get decent down/up speeds but godawful latency (300ms+ ). If your 3g latency consistently sucks, do the 4g fix for the nexus; Much better latency and I always get 4g in most places on T-mobile.....rural areas might be screwed on getting 4g although I noticed my 3g speeds increased overall after the fix.
8th
Finished; report back in the thread and tell me if it helped!! And if anybody knows a good I.T. position open for a VoIP office/callcenter; let me know cause I'm quitting mine.
Sorry for my ignorance. But all those SIP methods fix all VoIP calls? (Viber, Facebook Messenger, etc).
I just want to fix the terrible echo I am exporting to others Viber users.
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thesebastian said:
Sorry for my ignorance. But all those SIP methods fix all VoIP calls? (Viber, Facebook Messenger, etc).
I just want to fix the terrible echo I am exporting to others Viber users.
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Seems fixed, at least, from the N4's end.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=42978#c16
raz123 said:
Seems fixed, at least, from the N4's end.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=42978#c16
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Nope. Tried to use it on fongo but it didn't work.
Update. Fongo released a new beta today and it seems like the echo problem is gone...
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I tried different voip apps including built-in voip client with CM 10.2. Best sound quality and no echos I've got with CSipSimple with echo reduction enabled.
swimma said:
I tried different voip apps including built-in voip client with CM 10.2. Best sound quality and no echos I've got with CSipSimple with echo reduction enabled.
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Which cm 10.2 build are you on