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I bought a Cradle for my TyTn II from Brando Web site. they are located in Hong Kong. I have been dealing with them since 2000.
they usually provide good service.
However this charger did not work, AC or USB part. I emailed them and they were kind to send me a replacement in 1 week.
Again still not charging or connecting to my computer. I skipped the cradle and tried the USB cable only still not working.
I emailed them back and they want me to ship both units back to them. I understand that there is a problem with certain connections charging or connecting with Kaiser an I tried to tell them that; I don't think they believe me.
Do Not Order this Cradle since it will not work !!
http://mobile.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=03012&dept_id=039&cat_id=0996
Uh thanks for the warning, I almost bought the same thing.
mdshahed said:
However this charger did not work, AC or USB part. I emailed them and they were kind to send me a replacement in 1 week.
Again still not charging or connecting to my computer. I skipped the cradle and tried the USB cable only still not working.
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Stupid question, but does your Kaiser connect to your computer with ANY USB cable? I'm using a cradle (from Talkietech.com) which looks identical to that one with no problems at all. Works with both a USB connection (though I re-used an existing cable) and just with the wall power plug.
If the provided USB cable isn't working, try one which you know works....
Richard
It's not only the USB cable but also the charger included.
any other USB cable works on my computer though.
Brando contacted me again yesterday they will send me a third unit. I will post once I get the third unit.
cheers.
Also returned one of these for same reason
I returned one for replacement because the led lamp was blinking like crazy. The replacement connects to my usb alright but I have not done any extensive testing of the charging performance.
Inserting the phone is also fibbly because the slot is so wide, you need to take aim and align phone before inserting. This is a real bother. Do not buy it
I bought a Boxwave cradle for a 8525 and it's light blinked and failed within hours, I returned it.
mdshahed said:
I bought a Cradle for my TyTn II from Brando Web site. they are located in Hong Kong. I have been dealing with them since 2000.
they usually provide good service.
However this charger did not work, AC or USB part. I emailed them and they were kind to send me a replacement in 1 week.
Again still not charging or connecting to my computer. I skipped the cradle and tried the USB cable only still not working.
I emailed them back and they want me to ship both units back to them. I understand that there is a problem with certain connections charging or connecting with Kaiser an I tried to tell them that; I don't think they believe me.
Do Not Order this Cradle since it will not work !!
http://mobile.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=03012&dept_id=039&cat_id=0996
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I think all these cradles (Kigidi, mobile planet, Brando) are all from the original manufacturer. They do work, but not out of the box. You have to shift the battery around left to right while inserting them to have the contacts line up properly. Cheap quality.
I bought a cradle that looks exactly like that one off eBay. But it came with a second battery for Brando's price for just the cradle alone. I've been using mine for a little over a month, and am very happy with it. The USB cable only serves for charging and connecting to a pc. To charge the second battery in the charger 'tray', the AC power adapter must be plugged in as well.
Mine also has the tricky alignment issue when inserting the kaiser, but I'm used to it. Also because of the position of the kaiser's stylus, there's no access when cradled, so I rigged a mount on the side of the cradle for a spare stylus.
Hands down the best thing about my cradle is the charger tray and second battery. It's so nice to have a fully charged battery available at any time for a quick swap. The battery that was included is only 1300 mAh, opposed to the stock 1350 mAh battery, but it fits perfectly, and I I don't find the 50 mAh difference noticeable. And considering the $24 price tag fI paid for battery and dock, it seems a steal. At this point there's no way I'm going to shell out $50 for the 1650 mAh batteries now available, but If I din't have the dock and second battery I probably would have.
I see that the pricing is up $5, still a deal:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...tToStoreCat&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget
brando.com shipping
This is unrelated to the topic, but I was going to order from Brando.com and was wondering how long the shipping took. It says 7-20 business days, and I was hoping it would be on the shorter end of that. (shipping to PA)
Almost every charger didnt work with my TyTn II (after I burnt up mine original one on UPS). I just went to market, looked for highest wattage supplying adapter and it was LG's 5.2Volt 5W adapter. And it recharges my TyTn II like a charm. There is something bad with recharging TyTn II.
The old motorola charger and such going-around-boozo's worked with my Vox and Excalibur but not this beast.
Interesting
i have had one of these for over 2 years. its on my desk at work. the original mains adapter packed up a long time ago and i have an old tandy one attached now. does have the random blinking lights with phone and spare battery connected, but it works.
as said before, cheap design but very handy to charge phone and battery together.
just have to be a bit lucky when you buy i guess.
despite title, i would say buy.
@dark_prince: could be the charging socket in the phone is wearing and needs bit more power to kick it in. have you tried to clean inside socket with compressed air and contact cleaner, might help.
but maybe we just have to accept that our phones are really old now and dont work as well as they used to (i know the feeling)
I've search the forum first before I posted this message, but no post that gives me the slightest answer to this problem
I lend out my tmo Wing to my gf because her phone broke and I had G1 for awhile already. Apparently it's too much to handle for her so I bought her a cheap nokia prepaid in order to get my wing back.
I'm trying to back up her pics and ringtones from the phone, but I noticed it won't charge. The amber light won't turn. I double check again and I noticed the miniUSB port is super loose. I tried wiggling it, putting the cable halfway, taking out the battery, etc. Nothing work.
What should I do? Does anyone have experience this problem before?
Check the contacts on the female usb port. If they are corroded, which could be the case if not properly cared for, try searching Google for a way to clean them.
The contacts could be skewed at an angle, like my old Kaiser. I used a pair of tweezers to manually move the contacts back to their original position.
Try switching to another USB cable. My phones will only charge with a cable that has a very heavy-duty end on it. Normal USB cables won't cut it, I had to use one that came with a removable hard drive.
That's all I have for now. Hope it helps!
My port is screwed too. I got this charger off of ebay and love it.
cgi.ebay.com/Battery-Charger-for-T-Mobile-MDA-Vario-III-HTC-TyTN-II_W0QQitemZ350298289224QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBatteries_Chargers?hash=item518f67b448
I have two batteries, so one is always charged. I like it so much more than a traditional charger. HTH
hey guys, need some help here
so my phone is not charging, i tried the USB to PC, does not work neither does the wall charger, I do not get a orange led notification either. The phone would boot up for a second then turn off.
any suggestions?
I have this issue with my aftermarket battery from china, the battery is so dead that the phone doesnt even really know its there. It just happend to me yesterday. ill put up a fix tomorrow because i have my kid this weekend.
slickerxcuh said:
hey guys, need some help here
so my phone is not charging, i tried the USB to PC, does not work neither does the wall charger, I do not get a orange led notification either. The phone would boot up for a second then turn off.
any suggestions?
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lucky for you, its the ebay battery for me its my oem battery. going to try to swap out another oem battery/charger and see if its my battery.
had the same issue, i noticed on mine that the battery pins on the phone tend to bend easily to prevent a good connection from the battery. phone would power on but wouldn't charge either.
is it the pins? i need some pictures or a video tutorial on this fix lol i have no idea what everyone is talking about, the pins look fine to me. im pretty sure that its my cable now since it didnt charge a blackberry phone either...
Damn how can this phone be so hi tech but made with th most CHEAPEST materials!
i bought a new micro usb cable, and its charging now...
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i bought a new micro usb cable, and its charging now...
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I bought one off of amazon and it would totally freak my phone out....no joke...it was just a wall charger no usb...now I only use the usb like the one that came with the phone and that is i.t
When you get a new phone, you should always condition the battery by letting it run completely down a few times in the beginning. When I was doing this with my phone when I first got it, after a complete drain it wouldn't charge. All i had to do was pull the battery and put it back in. Then it started charging fine. Not sure if this helps...
Also I wouldn't say these phone use cheap materials because people are not careful and bend the pins. I've removed my battery several times and the pins are perfect... If the pins aren't flexible, you wouldn't be able to get the battery in. In order to be flexible, they have to be soft. Pay attention when you are removing and replacing your battery.
You ended up figuring it out but I figured it would be good to point out that sometimes the connections on the battery/phone get dirty or pretty much any battery where it connects to the electronic.
What I usually do first when I have problems with any of my electronics turning on/charging is I take a cotton swab and dip it in rubbing alcohol. Shake it off cuz there will be alot of alcohol on there just so its not dripping and rub the connections then flip the cotton swap around then rub them again with the dry side. This doesnt work all the time but works enough for me to mention it. Static electricity will attract dirt and grime. Used to happen semi often on my touch pro since I used to have it in my pocket when I worked on a golf course.
Anyways just my 2 cents.
I didn't buy the HTC extended battery but one from amazon sold by Karen Deals. Link is below
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0..._m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0NVM3EA1B2VE9HN3AKMA
Battery
Model No: cs-ht8585xl
Part No: 35h000128-00m, ba s400
Rating: 3.7v 2400mah
Lithium Ion
Induction Unit
Palm Pixi charging back with Palm touchstone charging dock
Operating System
Shubcraft 1.4d
Video:
Images are attached below!
Induction charging has the same charging speed as plugging it into a wall outlet. Very fast!
Sidenote:
I tried using a multimeter with the 3 contacts located under the battery and could not get it to register anything (with and without the charger plugged in). I then tried shooting 5v through it using 6 different combination (2 plugs for 3 contacts) and still couldn't get anything. If anyone knows a way to use these 3 contacts for charging please leave feedback. Also if anyone can find a minature microusb male connection that'd be great.
Well done, it's a really nice mod!
The 2400 mAh is a bit too bulky for me, though the extended uptime must be awesome. I'd even consider something similar, were it not that you're using the microusb to charge. If only you could connect it straight to the battery, would be so much more convenient. It'd still work in for instance car kits and attached to a pc.
Never the less, well done.
Looks great, i would try this myself but i cant stand the bulk of extended batteries and the stock metal back would almost defiantly interfere with the current. Where did you get the decal from?
Angelusz said:
Well done, it's a really nice mod!
The 2400 mAh is a bit too bulky for me, though the extended uptime must be awesome. I'd even consider something similar, were it not that you're using the microusb to charge. If only you could connect it straight to the battery, would be so much more convenient. It'd still work in for instance car kits and attached to a pc.
Never the less, well done.
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You can't plug in directly to the battery since the battery doesn't have a balancer board on it and it would explode if it were to be overcharged without one.
JJbdoggg said:
Looks great, i would try this myself but i cant stand the bulk of extended batteries and the stock metal back would almost defiantly interfere with the current. Where did you get the decal from?
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I got the decal in the automotive section of Walmart. It came with 2 big/4small stickers for 7usd
UPDATE: Made the microusb head smaller! Letting liquid electrical tape dry then I'll post pics.
this is a really nice mod. what about the possiblly of going via the nav panel connectors instead of micro usb. this would as far as i know leave the usb port free and also not have the disadvantage of having a usb connector attached which can be easily damged.
Personalyu i wouldnt do this mod as i use my phone to tether a hell of a lot so it seems pointless to me, but being able to just sit your phone down and have it charge is awesome.
Great work!!!!
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this is a really nice mod. what about the possiblly of going via the nav panel connectors instead of micro usb. this would as far as i know leave the usb port free and also not have the disadvantage of having a usb connector attached which can be easily damged.
Personalyu i wouldnt do this mod as i use my phone to tether a hell of a lot so it seems pointless to me, but being able to just sit your phone down and have it charge is awesome.
Great work!!!!
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I tired the navpanel connections with no success. If anyone has a multimeter please try to do it to theirs (with charger plugged in).
that is really odd....only think i can think of is manye theres something that needs to happen with the middle pin.
nice work i think that decal are very cute indeed!
PPL this is knowed from a long time! This pins are used for example with Car Kit like CU s400: http://www.slashgear.com/htc-hd2-cu-s400-car-kit-gets-priced-detailed-coming-december-1360143/
This car kit is in two versions: like this on 1st photo - use other battery cover which use this "mysterious" pins to run NaviPanel and charging battery and 2nd version with charging via microUSB port.
I hope this helps a bit.
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that is really odd....only think i can think of is manye theres something that needs to happen with the middle pin.
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This "odd" middle pin you can find in every phone battery too. If you depart any battery you can find there a little electronic circuit.
I think, that this pin is used to metering battery charge, but i can be wrong - im not advanced in electornics.
I'm well aware of the existance of these products but cannot figure out what the three contacts below the batteries are.
Maybe some users having one. In that case he/she can make photos of all connectors or better - check it with multimeter which connector is +, - and this middle one.
Maybe some service manuals can tell something more abt this. I searched for it and i did'nt find nothing useful.
FRANQ_23_PL said:
Maybe some users having one. In that case he/she can make photos of all connectors or better - check it with multimeter which connector is +, - and this middle one.
Maybe some service manuals can tell something more abt this. I searched for it and i did'nt find nothing useful.
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I also did a search on google and xda but with no luck. I don't think it inputs 5v into the machine since I did shoot 5v into the 3 connectors using different combination.
Hi all,
The contact closest to the center of the phone (looking along the longest axis of the phone) is the +5V, the one furthest from the +5V is the ground, and there's a small voltage on the center contact, positive to ground. These +5V voltage shows up (on my phone) only when the mini-USB charger is plugged in.
I've got the +5V terminal of the Pre plate attached to the +5V contact on the phone, and the other one attached to the GND contact. Inductive charging works at 341ma (as measure by the hardware and read by BattClock) at maximum, which is probably not coincidentally also the limit set on USB charging, at least from my laptop.
I tried hooking the Touchstone up to a Apple ~1" cubed charger, didn't get any charge. I haven't read the USB power specifications, but according to the people at the Palm forums you have to have a USB spec power-capable charger to initialize the Touchstone, and the USB ICs signal this by connecting the two data lines. This can be approximated by clipping a USB cable and twisting the data lines together on the Touchstone side of the cable. This allowed the Apple charger to power the Touchstone.
The HTC stock charger works fine, as does an 800ma Verizon charger I had laying around. I tried hooking the Touchstone up to both a [email protected] switching charger and a 5V 8A supply, the Touchstone still charged at 341ma. I'm guessing this is software, firmware or hardware limited, just like the computer USB connection. I would speculate that if you shorted the middle pin to the ground pin, it might remove this restriction. Or fry your phone, I didn't try it.
There's a guy on the Pre forums who got the Touchstone to consume about 1.02A (http://forums.precentral.net/palm-p...b-adapters-touchstone-dock-2.html#post2020491) so the thing can, apparently transfer some power. I don't know how long it would last at those wattages, but I'm going to read a bit on the USB power spec and see if the 341ma limit can be lifted.
It's kind of nice to use the internal connector, because it leaves the microUSB port open. If anyone has any questions feel free to ask. With the relevant portion of the Pre cover stuck to the back of my phone, there are no wires out of the chassis and the added part doesn't add any considerable bulk to the phone. It protrudes less than the camera.
Anyways, hope this isn't a thread-jack or too long, but I figured it might help anyone that's going to take the time to do this.
Thanks to the community here.
Did you dremel and hotglue the plastic case to the metal case? Interweb highfive from me to you!
Can you post pictures of the inside wiring please?
I did. I basically cut out a square from the HD2 back large enough to hold the coiled length of wire that is needed to allow the back to be removed and articulated. Then I used Super Glue to fix the section of the Pre back containing the inductive coil and circuitry to the HD2 back.
If you're trying to maintain your warranty I might suggest DigiKey part number 478-4687-1-ND, it's from the AVX "MOBO Spring Contact Interconnect Solutions" catalog under battery connectors (I can send you a .pdf copy of the catalog, it's too big to upload to forum). This is a 3mm pitch connector that should mate well with the internal connector - but - I don't have calipers so I would measure before ordering. I just soldered the wires to my HD2.
I'll post some pictures soonish.
And yeah, high five for sure. Thanks for pioneering this. My last phone was retired when the power connector became flaky, so it's nice not to have to worry about the contact wearing out.
Ur mod is on a dutch popular website!
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/69360/mod-maakt-draadloos-laden-mogelijk-op-htc-hd2.html
Right angle micro-usb
I'm looking to do the same thing with my Vibrant and have been searching for a similar connector. I just did a quick google search and found these angled connectors:
http://www.usbfirewire.com/u_microb_cables_angled.html
I tried soldering it your way with no sucess
Soldering pins are as shown
(If viewing vertically with top up)
(leftside of hd2) negative x positive (center of hd2)
bumping an old thread to see if you've taken pictures of the contact points yet.
Sorry it took me so long to reply. Two pictures, the first is the terminal with the wires soldered in, the second shows how I got the cables from the Palm coil/board through the cover. The terminals as you look along the longest axis of the phone with the microUSB plug closest to you are GND, something, and +5v.
So from left to right: 1 GND / 2 ? / 3 +5v.
Hi,
I just recently had to have my charging port resoldered into my Motorola because it finally failed and ended up coming out of the phone housing on the charger connector. Prior to that, the phone was connecting to the charger, and I had two I was using. One in my car and one in the house. After I the port fell out, and until I could take it to a phone fixer, the workaround was I was charging and swapping out batteries with a Motorola Blur. What was weird is that both phone housings look identical; however, the older phone would pick up both chargers, and my Defy would not.
After they soldered in a new charging port a couple of days ago I left with clear assurance that everything was working great, and charging was a-go. Mmmhmm. On my way back home, which was an hour from the repair place, and tried to hook it up to the charger in my car. Still not charging. When I called the repair place they suggested checking it with my home charger too, once I got back home and then let them know if there was still a problem. They reassured me they had hooked up to several chargers while it was there, and all were good.
I got home, tried the home charger, and still no connection. This time when I called them back I got another person who started asking about my charger and the little lines on the underside of the metal piece that inserts into my phone. She asked if the metal tracks met the plastic on the back end of the charger itself or whether they stopped with a gap between the tracks and the plastic housing. On both my chargers I saw the tracks did NOT meet the plastic, and she said they only use Samsung chargers in their shop because it creates a better connection, and some phones need that.
Pretty sure the chargers I have were not OEM chargers for this Motorola so I am going to try to get to a place with Samsung charger so I can puzzle this out, but I am confused in that one Motorola charges and the other doesn't.
Any experience or ideas or suggestions????
Kristie