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I know this is not about the Nexus S, but there's no denying that anything dual-core related is inexorably related to the Nexus S and its lack of one. So:
LG announces dual-core phone for early 2011: http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/15/lg-optimus-2x-first-dual-core-smartphone-launches-with-android/
No coincidence that it's being announced right before Nexus S officially launches.
Anyone going to change their minds?
I've known the LG Star/Optimus 2X was coming soon since AndroidCentral first mentioned it awhile back. I plan to get my Nexus S anyway.
still getting the Nexus S
still getting a nexus but any word on the carrier?
No, it's not related to the Nexus S in any way. Why? Because it's not backed up by Google. Plain and simple.
It's going to Korea and then the rest of Asia and Europe after. No mention of any other releases. Sticking with the Nexus S.
The phone is also quite ugly.
Nexus S. I'll probably have it for a year, at the least.
Why would I hold off on the NS in hopes of the Star being compatible w/ Tmobile 4G?
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I misread, Android supports dual core, but the application has to be re-written to take advantage of it.
Have Android 2.3 dual core support?
no support
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As per my understanding, android 2.3 does not support dual core CPU, so why would LG release a dual core CPU hardware on android !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
According to AndroidEncyclopedia.com:
This new series of multi core processors destined for the smartphone market will be sampling in the first quarter of 2011 and will enter mass production sometime in the second half of the same year. This comes really as a bit of a disappointment really as the Tegra 2 processor is already out and is kind of setting new standards on every test which has the ability to optimally use the multi-core technology. The biggest inconvenience the processors really faces is the lack of proper Android support when it comes to recognizing the multi-core architecture and thus using it to its full potential.
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This has been posted many times (how Android does not support multi-core yet). Not really news!
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Have Android 2.3 dual core support?
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They say it will launch with foryo and updated with 2.3......
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They say it will launch with foryo and updated with 2.3......
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I heard that about Honeycomb, not Gingerbread.
I love tech (especially the rapid growing mobile space) but i'd rather not have the very first dual core phone on the market. i'd rather wait and see how the OS (honeycomb and up), app devs, etc utilize it AND i'd wait to hear back about battery life.
LG and Android may really become a big player in 2011: http://phandroid.com/2010/12/16/exclusive-lg-b-android-phone-super-slim-super-bright/
Nexus L 2011, anyone?
Wow that phone looks insane. Having said that, it would be better if it was an official Google device. If it isn't I'll be sticking to the Nexus S for the foreseeable future until the next one releases.
Dual cores sound nice and all but single cores are beginning to be perfected and can really run android without any hitches, upgrading to a dual core just to have one wouldn't really give us a huge boost in performance yet.
Finally I can play Crysis on my Phone with Ultra settings. Really? Its cool and all but how fast do they want your apps to open up and your angrybirds to load up on a freaking phone, In my opinion its over kill never the less cool I guest.
Based on the last CES Archos launched their Archos 101 Home tablet. Archos Home tablet edition has a much lower specs compared to Archos Internet tablet edition but in the video provided at Archosfans.com it says that it has support to Gingerbread and Future Version of android.
Does this mean that the Current Archos 101IT edition can still be upgrade to those version of android?
Any thoughts in thi matter???
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Of course it can be upgraded to the newer OS version. The big question is will Archos actually do it. I'm really hoping they will but won't be surprised if they don't.
if archos won't upgrade our A101IT maybe others can make custom roms? have any of you seen or heard if one is under development?
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if archos won't upgrade our A101IT maybe others can make custom roms? have any of you seen or heard if one is under development?
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No one has mentioned making a Gingerbread ROM.
i stumbled upon a video on youtube. the video is captured at last weeks CES.
in the video they ask the guy if honeycomb will be on the tablet. he says "uh yah"
he also mentions how full flash capability will be available by end of month.
check out the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9gt9x4tM5g
lol. Not much of a commitment. Plus, this is the same crew that tried to say that the 7 Home Tablet is a Gen8 tablet. So, I think I will not be holding my breath on this one.
What do you think about 256 RAM issue? I suppose that 2.3 (even 3.0) could be run on 101IT, however, it may work very slow!
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What do you think about 256 RAM issue? I suppose that 2.3 (even 3.0) could be run on 101IT, however, it may work very slow!
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Won't know until we try. They said the same thing about Froyo until it was running on devices that had 256MB.
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Won't know until we try. They said the same thing about Froyo until it was running on devices that had 256MB.
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Oh, I see. Didn't know.
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Won't know until we try. They said the same thing about Froyo until it was running on devices that had 256MB.
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Exactly. We get into a Windows and Mac mindset but Android is different from those systems in that each progressive version gets a little better at using system resources, not worse so you don't always have to upgrade the hardware to run the new software. My original MyTouch phone with a 600 ghz processor and 128 mb of memory runs much smoother on froyo than it ever did on donut or eclair.
That said, there are diminishing returns and Honeycomb is really a major step up in terms of functionality so I am not holding my breath that Archos will take the time to upgrade considering they will be probably be putting out new devices by then. I love my A70 but I sort of look at it like an early adopter type device to see how useful the form factor for me (it is...I have an hour to 90 minute commute and it is perfect).
I plan to upgrade and maybe even get a contract (yikes!) for a honeycomb tablet later this year. I would never consider $275 chump change but if I can use it for 8 months to a year and then sell it for $100-150 to put toward an upgrade, I would be happy.
I considered the Galaxy Tab but a 2 year contract on this generation of devices is a bad move in my opinion.
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Exactly. We get into a Windows and Mac mindset but Android is different from those systems in that each progressive version gets a little better at using system resources, not worse so you don't always have to upgrade the hardware to run the new software. My original MyTouch phone with a 600 ghz processor and 128 mb of memory runs much smoother on froyo than it ever did on donut or eclair.
That said, there are diminishing returns and Honeycomb is really a major step up in terms of functionality so I am not holding my breath that Archos will take the time to upgrade considering they will be probably be putting out new devices by then. I love my A70 but I sort of look at it like an early adopter type device to see how useful the form factor for me (it is...I have an hour to 90 minute commute and it is perfect).
I plan to upgrade and maybe even get a contract (yikes!) for a honeycomb tablet later this year. I would never consider $275 chump change but if I can use it for 8 months to a year and then sell it for $100-150 to put toward an upgrade, I would be happy.
I considered the Galaxy Tab but a 2 year contract on this generation of devices is a bad move in my opinion.
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600 ghz? Wouldn't your phone explode?
no - but the battery does not last very l
i hope they do make an upgrade, but they might wait until honeycomb cause its supposed to be for tablets or something
i thought better be hoping to the developers to made the gingerbread rom than hoping the archos team made it
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600 ghz? Wouldn't your phone explode?
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I connect it to several dozen multi core server blades. It does cut down on portability however.
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I connect it to several dozen multi core server blades. It does cut down on portability however.
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But I imagine it does wonders for your Angry Birds scores....
i'd think if you go the SDE route and boot android from SD that the community would update it even if archos doesnt.
Just wondrering if the Archos 101it will get a Gingerbread update soon as I have seen this for a Arnova 10.1
"Archos Arnova 10" G2 4GB Tablet
Arnova introduces its next generation of AndroidTM based tablets powered by a super fast 1 GHz processor. This second generation comes with an ultra-responsive multitouch capacitive screen and optimised AndroidTM 2.3 Gingerbread operating system. This smart combination between high performance hardware and intuitive software will offer you many ways to use your tablet. "
from this source
http://hmv.com/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=228;16;-1;-1;-1&sku=262520
The unit in the picture looks just like a 101it
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Just wondrering if the Archos 101it will get a Gingerbread update soon as I have seen this for a Arnova 10.1
"Archos Arnova 10" G2 4GB Tablet
Arnova introduces its next generation of AndroidTM based tablets powered by a super fast 1 GHz processor. This second generation comes with an ultra-responsive multitouch capacitive screen and optimised AndroidTM 2.3 Gingerbread operating system. This smart combination between high performance hardware and intuitive software will offer you many ways to use your tablet. "
from this source
http://hmv.com/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=228;16;-1;-1;-1&sku=262520
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We`ll never get official GB or HC
we`ve ported GB, but HC we cant port, we dont have the sources
I still have hope for Ice Cream Sandwich
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We`ll never get official GB or HC
we`ve ported GB, but HC we cant port, we dont have the sources
I still have hope for Ice Cream Sandwich
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What are the differences in the two devices? Other than the storage size they seem to be the same
Arnova also list the rom as a seperate download from
http://arnovatech.com/support/updates.html
Looking at website the specs seem very close on the G2 vs 101it
http://arnovatech.com/products/g2/arn_10/specs.html?country=gb&lang=en
http://store.archos.com/archos-internet-tablet-p-5005.html
I just Read an article stating that 2.3 will be scraped, but that doesn't coincide with 2.3.3.
The Article is on pocket-lint.com or Search Google for the Phrase "Android 2.4 coming April, leaving 2.3 dead on arrival - not Ice Cream"
Sorry can't post a link.
I was looking for any sort of Response about this on the Forum or the Main Site on XDA.
Since I didn't find anything, I decided to post it.
It is interesting though, what does it mean for the Nexus S?
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Well if you look at it like that all OS versions are "scrapped" in the end.
My guess is the 2.3.3 will be a bugfix (reboots anyone? ^^) and NFC upgrade (as its mainly disabled in 2.3.2). And 2.4 is the next update, ovbiously making 2.3 redundant.
It's almost like seeing a report saying windows7 retail is cancelled because sp1 is coming out
IMO gingerbread/NS were rushed for the holiday release and proof is in this 2.4 update.
2.3 has too many issues poor 3d performance compared to 2.1-2.2 galaxy s FPS is inconsistent, compass is messed up ...movement is too jerky, dropped calls, crappy browser performance not 3d accelerated, the CPU seems to down clocks even when it shouldn't this might explain the inconsistent/stutter FPS when running 3d apps becasue setting CPU to performance with set SETCPU seems to smooth things out.
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IMO gingerbread/NS were rushed for the holiday release and proof is in this 2.4 update.
2.3 has too many issues poor 3d performance compared to 2.1-2.2 galaxy s FPS is inconsistent, compass is messed up ...movement is too jerky, dropped calls
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that's exactly the case.... like common being released on Mid Dec 2010, just a few days shy for the holiday... it's way to obvious
and all the small bugs we find here and there are prove of that
usually going from say for example 2.1 to 2.2 are like major changes
but now we got 2.3 and 2.4 that seems more like a routine maintenance release
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Well if you look at it like that all OS versions are "scrapped" in the end.
My guess is the 2.3.3 will be a bugfix (reboots anyone? ^^) and NFC upgrade (as its mainly disabled in 2.3.2). And 2.4 is the next update, ovbiously making 2.3 redundant.
It's almost like seeing a report saying windows7 retail is cancelled because sp1 is coming out
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What I mean is Why 2.3.3 when 2.4 is the actual Update.
AFAIK 2.3.3 is for Upgrade to NFC capabilities like stated in the first link over here.
Reboot issue doesn't seem to be addressed. I haven't faced the reboot issue yet, so I am not worried about that.
I think 2.4 is rushed 2.2 was somewhere in June or July, 2.3 was in Late November. 2.4 will likely be hereby March. The Gaps are getting shorter, the only way I see it is they are leaving less time to do the testing or Programmers have gotten faster leaving more time for Testing. More Likely the the earlier assumption as we can see with the problem on the Nexus.
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that's exactly the case.... like common being released on Mid Dec 2010, just a few days shy for the holiday... it's way to obvious
and all the small bugs we find here and there are prove of that
usually going from say for example 2.1 to 2.2 are like major changes
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Very true
it does seem isolated to 2.3 becasue i loaded 2.3 on my vibrant and had same poor results
I hope some of these issues are not just becasue google wanted to improve battery life on NS .... sacrifice performance
And hopefully not overlooked with 2.4
Seems like Android 2.4 can land as soon as early April 2011 but not as Android 2.4 Ice cream, instead it will be a continuation update of Android 2.3 Gingerbread. This news was sparked by tech blog pocket-lint claiming that his sources at ViewSonic have revealed that the ViewSonic will launch their ViewPad 4 Smartphone in early April with Android 2.4. This Android update will not bring any name change and it will be still known as Android 2.4 Gingerbread. So what is it going to do? Well it is said that the Android 2.4 will essentially bring the compatibility with dual-core applications that are customized for Android 3.0 Honeycomb to the currently available single-core devices.
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Seems like Android 2.4 can land as soon as early April 2011 but not as Android 2.4 Ice cream, instead it will be a continuation update of Android 2.3 Gingerbread. This news was sparked by tech blog pocket-lint claiming that his sources at ViewSonic have revealed that the ViewSonic will launch their ViewPad 4 Smartphone in early April with Android 2.4. This Android update will not bring any name change and it will be still known as Android 2.4 Gingerbread. So what is it going to do? Well it is said that the Android 2.4 will essentially bring the compatibility with dual-core applications that are customized for Android 3.0 Honeycomb to the currently available single-core devices.
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that's so confusing, yet so clear
Google have been sort of "advertizing" for a while that 3.0 will bring dual core support for Tablets only
but they never mentioned nothing about supporting phones with dual core
2.4 seems to be a logical place for them to test dual core support for phones, specially with the horrible test results shown on the LG phone
Wouldn't it make more Sense to Make another Branch or have some different Name Desgnation for Android for Tablet.
I don't see how the Smart Phones will skip 3.0 altogether, (I understand Smartphones will get 3.1). But the Code for Tablet and Smartphone should be similar how can it be that 3.0 will not be suitable for Smartphones.
I mean the Hardware is basically the same, they are basically stretched out phones.
The Tegra 2 in LG will be redundant in many of the early tablets.
I just don't see how they will battle the battery issue from Dual Core Processor on a phone for a while. I see dual core doing better in Tablets for the moment.
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lol just freaking lovely
i love to see 2.4 update soon.. Btw, i don't feel any problems with my current nexus S. The only problem is poor wifi connection and long charging time, i never had issue with dropped calls, reboot, etc..
: cough :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863837
Edit: For those who don't want to read through an entire thread, in short, yeah, it's likely Gingerbread was rushed.
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I think 2.4 is rushed 2.2 was somewhere in June or July, 2.3 was in Late November. 2.4 will likely be hereby March. The Gaps are getting shorter, the only way I see it is they are leaving less time to do the testing or Programmers have gotten faster leaving more time for Testing.
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You're forgetting about the 2.0 and 2.1 releases. 2.0 was released in late Nov on the Droid. No other phone ever got it and it was quickly replaced in early January with 2.1. In other words, it looks pretty much exactly like the 2.3-2.4 situation.
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You're forgetting about the 2.0 and 2.1 releases. 2.0 was released in late Nov on the Droid. No other phone ever got it and it was quickly replaced in early January with 2.1. In other words, it looks pretty much exactly like the 2.3-2.4 situation.
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exactly the case here
I agree that it is the 2.0 - 2.1 situation again. Google rushed both out to get the phones out. I've been wondering if the delay for Nexus One is that they are actually going to push 2.4 to it and skip 2.3. 2.4 is still Gingerbread, so they aren't lying that Nexus One will get Gingerbread ... they just never specified the version.
So it looks like 2.4 is real and HTC phones are being released with it next month!!!
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-confirms-incredible-s-ship-froyo-will-get-update-24-soon-after
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So it looks like 2.4 is real and HTC phones are being released with it next month!!!
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-confirms-incredible-s-ship-froyo-will-get-update-24-soon-after
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HTC has confirmed via Twitter that its new Incredible S will run Android 2.2 out of the box, but will receive an update to version 2.4 shortly after launch. The Desire S and Wildfire S, however, will run 2.4 when they're released.
This discrepancy is most likely down to release timing -- the Incredible S launches next month, whereas the Desire S and Wildfire S are slated for release during the second quarter of the year.
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Nothing is being released with it next month you should read the articles you post
Oh ok I read wrong!!! Sorry
Do you think that SAMSUNG will upgrade GS2 to ANDROID 4 when will be available in Q4 2011 ?
Yes. One of the things to come out of Google I/O this year was a commitment from the big manufacturers to support Android updates for a defined period of time (obviously, hardware dependent).
Ye i reckon so. Even if there are hardware requirements, the SGS2 will definately be up to scratch. I have heard the 4.0 will adjust to the hardware anyway so it shouldn't be a problem either way.
The official Google policy is that all phones will qualify for updates up to 18 months from launch date .Providing the hardware is compatible .Samsung have agreed to this .
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Android 4? Still haven't gotten the 2.3.4, and Android 4.0, and that in Q4 this year? Am I reading it right?
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Android 4? Still haven't gotten the 2.3.4, and Android 4.0, and that in Q4 this year? Am I reading it right?
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In case you are thinking "4.0 is too fast because we haven't gotten 3.0 yet", 3.0 is Honeycomb and a Tablet only release. 4.0 is Ice Cream Sandwich and is supposed to unify both Tablets and Smartphones.
Anyway, version numbers by themselves mean nothing since they are arbitrary values given by humans. For example, Firefox 4 came out not too long ago and we have 5.0 now.
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In case you are thinking "4.0 is too fast because we haven't gotten 3.0 yet", 3.0 is Honeycomb and a Tablet only release. 4.0 is Ice Cream Sandwich and is supposed to unify both Tablets and Smartphones
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Yea I know that. Just didn't know that there weren't any version in between 2.3.4 and 4!
Hoping to get it ASAP on my phone!
It is rumored to be a really great change!
And even if samsung don't, which they should, cm or someone else will!
I am sure the specs are upto par, that's one of the reasons why I chose this phone!
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Next version of Android will have onscreen keys and hardware keys will be unsupported, just like on Honecomb.
So even if Samsung updates SGS2, we'll be left with a useless hardware home key and screen space will be lost for software keys.
Phones that run the next version of Android will be designed for that, with no hardware keys and extra screen space for the soft keys. On older phones like SGS2, it'll just look silly.
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Next version of Android will have onscreen keys and hardware keys will be unsupported, just like on Honecomb.
So even if Samsung updates SGS2, we'll be left with a useless hardware home key and screen space will be lost for software keys.
Phones that run the next version of Android will be designed for that, with no hardware keys and extra screen space for the soft keys. On older phones like SGS2, it'll just look silly.
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/me reckons that should be easy enough to sort out... I'd bet that either
- existing phones get support for hard-keys
- Samsung codes their own support for the keys, in order to keep their customers happy.
THEY WILL. They wouldn't haveput 1GB of RAM in this phone, unless they wanted it to have a "shelf-life" of more than a year. It probably won't be fully supported (because 4.0 is rumoured to to be for 720p displays and whatnot) but it will definitely be supported.
Android isn't like iOS, where as soon as the next version comes out, the older ones are immediately made obsolete. It's much more versatile than that.
And although it will be built around no hardware keys...it can't be completely built without them taken into consideration! What happens to volume keys and the lock button? The three buttons almost every single (if not every single one) Android handset has...
It'll be a similar situation to the one at the moment. The SII is released, and the S1 is given Gingerbread because it's still very popular. The S2 is more so, so I rekon at the release of the S3, we'll also get Android 4.0
SO excited. It's what android needs to continue eating away at the stupid domination of iOS/Apple.
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/me reckons that should be easy enough to sort out... I'd bet that either
- existing phones get support for hard-keys
- Samsung codes their own support for the keys, in order to keep their customers happy.
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It's easy to put something in the kernel to support the hardware home key like you say, but what about the multitasking key in Honeycomb which'll likely be in the next version too? There's no key in SGS2 for that... That'll have to stay on the screen and take precious screen space, probably together with soft home and back keys... Not to mention the even for today low SGS2 screen resolution.. Next version of Android on 800x480? Forget it...
It'll probably work, but it'll be silly... You'll want to get a new phone that is designed specifically for that...
Not to mention the hardware acceleration features that'll be coming which current hardware likely doesn't support. Like, Honeycomb seems to only work on Tegra. I don't know if it'll run on current version of Exynos used in SGS2...
So not only will it look silly, it'll probably run slow too.. We'll all want to get a new phone for the new OS.. That's what these things are designed for, to make money magically disapper from our pockets and appear in their pockets...
Remap one of the hardware keys to the multitasking key.
And as far as slow, i would hope that a dual core 1.2ghz cortex A9 would deal with it! The gig of ram will help.
And as far as hardware acceleration, i would think that google will expand the support to more than just tegra, that's half the point.
Honeycomb is just a limited stopgap as gingerbread would be awful on tablets!
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We'll just have to wait and see. If it all relies on missing hardware buttons then maybe Android 4.0 won't be fully compatible with SII, but if that's not the case, i'm sure SII will be upgraded to Android 4.0. If it won't be fully functional then i wouldn't want it on my SII just for the purpose of bragging that i can run a crippled Android 4.0 on my device. I'd stay with Gingerbread or buy a native Android 4.0 device.
I wonder if it's possible to port Honeycomb onto SGS II...
I mean it does have the Specs to pull it off.
kinda off topic, but this is the best (and most useful) place to ask this.
What exactly OR IS rumoured/expected in this Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich update?
I know it's meant to be a
- Big one that integrates 2.3.4 and 3.0.
- Rumours of hardware acceleration?
What else that's "big" or what new features are expected to be in this 4.0 update?!!??!?!
Everything in this thread is here-say. Where are your google release documents proving on-screen keys? Let me guess, your cousin's, uncle, brother has a buddy who knows the janitor at google right?
No one here knows what 4.0 will entail. Unless you work for Android team and are leaking stuff out.
So please stop posting crap, unless it is factual. Oh wait I forgot its the internet, everything is true.
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I wonder if it's possible to port Honeycomb onto SGS II...
I mean it does have the Specs to pull it off.
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Short answer is yes, our phone is way more than capable to run Honeycomb without any issues. I run it on my Nook Color (which's hardware is not even close at all to the SGS2) and it runs great.
Long answer is no, you won't be able to use it correctly since you would have to build and compile drivers yourself and then integrate them into HC (unless you find the drivers from a similar model, but good luck with that one).
On top of that, you won't want to do that since there's no phone application on HC (maybe on the 3G models, but there's not such a thing in the WiFi only models and neither on the HC SDK).
And yes, I'm sure we'll get ICS on our SGS2, it would not make sense at all not to get it on such a powerful phone.
All I can say is that if it won't be on SGS2 because of it rendering hardware buttons obsolete, then it basically won't be on ANY current phone.
As usual though, the rumour mills will be working overtime with pointless and unprovable statements like that. You'll have to wait and see.
And for what its worth, I definitely believe the SGS2 will get it (and possibly even the SGS1). Remember that no two android phones are ever the same in terms of OS anyway.
Edited to add: might not be Q4 but it will definitely get it.
I reaaly hope we will be first again for honeycomb updates.
We will get it. How fast depends on model. The wifi will be the first to have it most likely with the 4g version getting 4 to 6 weeks later after Verizon gives it the OK. How long the delay between announcement and push is up to Motorola and how long they have been working with it. If past performance is any indicator then at least two other tablets will have it before we do.
I dont think so.maybe next year because ICS is the selling point of every new phone out there so they got to give them the novelty of ICS. Also i dont think they will release the code to devs (or what every they need to make chinese tablet) because of that. Imagine that you sell a $499 tablet vs a $99 tablet that has the same hardware...thats what they did with honeycomb. So my money is maybe on december after the samsung galaxy 3 gets old. Also, i think the tablets right now are really defragmented (dont know the word im looking for) so ICS have to pass from google to Motorola ( and we all know motorola) after ICS i guess we all going to get the same updates.sorry for the english
anyone know how how long after the unveil the wifi version should get the update?
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anyone know how how long after the unveil the wifi version should get the update?
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Let me just consult my magic 8 ball...
jerses said:
I dont think so.maybe next year because ICS is the selling point of every new phone out there so they got to give them the novelty of ICS. Also i dont think they will release the code to devs (or what every they need to make chinese tablet) because of that. Imagine that you sell a $499 tablet vs a $99 tablet that has the same hardware...thats what they did with honeycomb. So my money is maybe on december after the samsung galaxy 3 gets old. Also, i think the tablets right now are really defragmented (dont know the word im looking for) so ICS have to pass from google to Motorola ( and we all know motorola) after ICS i guess we all going to get the same updates.sorry for the english
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The source code WILL be made available. Rubin said so in the past, when pointed out that HC sources were MIA, and he explained the reason for it, saying at the same time that Android sources will be again public once they reunify the 2.x and 3.x platforms into a cleaner, multi-devices software base.
Keep in mind that it's not just the OS based on the open source code that makes the tablet. Look at all those cheap Android 2.1/2.2 tablets - one of the things they often lack is access to the Android Market (in addition to using resistive screens, low performance SoCs, etc...). I suspect that you have to pay a license to Google to be allowed to bundle Google apps such as the official Android Market (someone might confirm this for me). This is where a major player like Samsung or Asus will distinguish itself from your average inexpensive Chinese-made tablet.
So, no reason at all for Google to refuse to distribute the code. Don't forget that the fact it's open-sourced is one of the main reasons behind its popularity.
So in the end, I'm fairly confident the Xoom will get ICS. If not from Morotola, then through unofficial builds from the public repository, like Cyanogen does for phones under 2.x.
kenfly said:
anyone know how how long after the unveil the wifi version should get the update?
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Same day brah
Motorola Xoom to be first Ice Cream Sandwich tablet? http://goo.gl/611fi Shared with APPY Geek (http://www.appy-geek.com
hopefully this rumor is true
Since the Xoom is the reference tablet...a pure Google experience device, the chances of it getting ICS sooner than later are high. Which tablets got 3.1 first? Which received 3.2 first? There's your answer.
Haven't sent my "4G" Xoom to MOTO/Verizon because I use it as WiFi only, will I have to send it in to continue on the upgrade path?
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S.Meezy said:
Haven't sent my "4G" Xoom to MOTO/Verizon because I use it as WiFi only, will I have to send it in to continue on the upgrade path?
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You might as well send it to get the upgrade. The resale value will be higher.
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>Since the Xoom is the reference tablet...a pure Google experience device, the chances of it getting ICS sooner than later are high.
The Xoom isn't an official reference device, and it isn't a refdev for ICS. My guess is that ICS update will come from your friendly custom ROM sooner than from Moto-Goog, as else the new FamilyEd Xoom will need to be updated as well, which probably won't happen any time soon given its new low-end status. Prioritizing and differentiation will mean the focus of development will be on the Xoom2 toys. That's how it has always worked.
The good news is that with ICS hitting AOS, custom ROMs will get better, sooner. In tandem with the above, there'll be more reasons for you to go offroad with ICS, if you haven't already.
>You might as well send it to get the upgrade. The resale value will be higher.
If reports are true, LTE mod will eat up more juice and reduce operating hours.
I hope Google take a leaf out of Apples book and say updates are being pushed out after this event.
Loved that about apple.
iammodo said:
I hope Google take a leaf out of Apples book and say updates are being pushed out after this event.
Loved that about apple.
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It has been this way for the US Xoom. Until now, Google has been the one who has pushed updates for US Xoom, so there is hope we will get ICS at some point, but i don't believe it's going to happen today. The reference SoC for ICS is TI OMAP, so it doesn't look good for our Tegra powered Xooms.
>I hope Google take a leaf out of Apples book and say updates are being pushed out after this event.
Apple isn't that different. Old toys don't get the new-fangled Siri thingie.
The 2nd-gen of Android tabs (mostly OMAP4) are only marginally better than the Teg2 hardware wise. ICS will be the big selling point. Differentiation means you don't let old toys have the same functions as the new, as that defeats the purpose of selling new toys.
Speaking of new toys, I like the MotoACTV. The first wearable (and likely hackable) Android device. It would be neat if one can shoehorn a full-fledged Android distro in there. Display is tiny, probably 320x240, but good enough for niche uses. Pricing is outrageous, but it'll drop soon enough.
no release date for ics....just for the nexus on november
they did release the SDK today tho !!!! gonna play with it now
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I dont think so.maybe next year because ICS is the selling point of every new phone out there so they got to give them the novelty of ICS. Also i dont think they will release the code to devs (or what every they need to make chinese tablet) because of that. Imagine that you sell a $499 tablet vs a $99 tablet that has the same hardware...thats what they did with honeycomb. So my money is maybe on december after the samsung galaxy 3 gets old. Also, i think the tablets right now are really defragmented (dont know the word im looking for) so ICS have to pass from google to Motorola ( and we all know motorola) after ICS i guess we all going to get the same updates.sorry for the english
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actually the Source Code is already on AOSP's website for developers.
pardon my ignorance but sdk is good for making roms or just to make apps for it...or just to release hacks for other platforms like 3.2.2 ,etc. i just know its good lol but dont know what good it can be.
With the Galaxy Nexus not being released until sometime in November I think we may be waiting until December for an official release. Hope the devs can pull a rabbit out of a hat.
SDK could bring us a release but hardware acceleration is unlikely until we see the official release.
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