I am just curious if anyone else has had a similar issue and if rooting it would resolve my problem. When my phone is "asleep" and I press the unlock button it almost never lights up immediately. Sometimes it will take 5+ seconds to light up before I am able to slide to unlock.
I am not sure if rooting the device and removing/freezing motoblur and all of the other bloatware would make it run better. I for sure want to root it in hopes that the phone will be less laggy. I think the inspire and captivate run smoother which is somewhat disappointing.
anyone else have a similar complaint or a way to fix it?
I had this problem with 1.26.
Flash firmware to stock 1.26, and update to 1.52 and you should be fine.
Rooting will not help.. Could be apps running in the background or widgets, idk.
Any improvement immediately after phone is fully re-booted?
Edit: I just realized you may not have AT&T...
Hey thanks. It is an at&t atrix and is currently running on 4.1.57. I dont think it "wakes" faster after a reboot. Sometimes it wakes right after I click it, but sometimes I can push the button and wait 5-10 seconds... I assumed rooting it and removing all of the garbage would fix the problem haha!
Actually, I would root anyway, so you can remove a lot of that stock Motoblur stuff, and keep it out of memory (by freezing it). It certainly can't hurt, and it might contribute to a speedier overall experience. Replacing the stock launcher definitely helps in that regard. Launcher Pro, and Go Launcher Ex as a close second, make using the phone so much smoother. Also, use the auto-close task list in the task manager, it could help to improve your problem if it's related to having too many things running.
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Actually, I would root anyway, so you can remove a lot of that stock Motoblur stuff, and keep it out of memory (by freezing it). It certainly can't hurt, and it might contribute to a speedier overall experience. Replacing the stock launcher definitely helps in that regard. Launcher Pro, and Go Launcher Ex as a close second, make using the phone so much smoother. Also, use the auto-close task list in the task manager, it could help to improve your problem if it's related to having too many things running.
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thank you,
I would like to root my phone to remove that stuff. I dont use any of it (especially motoblur.) I am currently using ADW as a launcher. I like some of the things you can change with it. Is Launcher Pro better? I have gone into the stock task manager to "end" applications, but I will take a look at the auto close feature. Maybe I will add everything BUT my widgets to that category. I have 1 widget per page...... Not sure if that is a no, no lol! 5 pages: beautiful widgets (weather,) pandora, double twist, mini stocks, and my power toggles. Should I not have this many widgets? I am running flickie wallpapers so I dont have a live background.... I think beautiful widgets is the only thing really using a great deal of CPU usage (around 5mb) which isnt much.
I have the same problem.
I am rooted on 1.57 and it did not fix my problem.
I was using gingerblur on 1.26 and the problem was still there.
I do not have titanium pro, so I haven't tried freezing motoblur.
if u are using setCPU and undervolt this could be the problem if you leave iddle sometime and wake the cpu could take a little more, try disabling setCPU profile on screen off (if u have it)
Flash the SBF back to 1.26 and see if you have the problem before installing launcher etc... Regardless, I would install gingerblur since it rox.
Same thing on mine, no change between 4.1.26 and 4.1.57. No change between rooted or unrooted. I've just gotten used to it, and it never takes more than 3 or so seconds for me. I hit the button as i'm pulling it out of my pocket, and it's usually on by the time i have it in view.
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i actually notice the same thing
currently on rooted 4.1.57
the lock screen wake up time seems slow...
its funny cause the exact same problem occurs on custom ROMs on the HD2 but I thought a real stock android device wouldnt have this problem...
it's a little bit annoying for me, but im slowly getting used to it. Although i would love for it to be fixed cause I've seen the unlock screens on the Nexus S and Galaxy S and they come on instantly when you push the power button
Remove the Bloat
What would you suggest removing, and is it just an uninstall?
I have it rooted, just dont know what I should uninstall or remove.
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does anybody have a major problem with hero lagging. It is really annoying. I was wondering if rooting the hero can fix this problem. If not do you guys think the 2.1 update will fix it.
What ROM are you running? What apps do you normally have running in the background? Are you using a Task Killer that automatically kills apps on a set time frame? Have you tried doing a factory reset/wipe to see if it makes a difference? And finally, where do you see the lag the most? Is it in a particular application, or are you judging the "lagginess" based on moving back and forth from your home screens in SenseUI?
Answering ALL of these questions will help us understand what you're seeing a little better. Your question is a little vague, and your answers will probably help you get some more support from folks on here.
Thanks!
My phone was laggy too. I rooted it and put the fresh rom on it and I saw a big improvement in overall performance. Still not as fast as my old iphone 3gs, but I would never go back. I also don't use task manager anymore. It always runs in the background and drains your battery faster.
I was having the same issue.. and I narrowed it down to Handcent(SMS) of all things..
phone was fast until I installed it.. then it ran like a dog.... then I uninstalled handcent and speed it actually usable now..
I would like to see confirmation of this from others as well..
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I was having the same issue.. and I narrowed it down to Handcent(SMS) of all things..
phone was fast until I installed it.. then it ran like a dog.... then I uninstalled handcent and speed it actually usable now..
I would like to see confirmation of this from others as well..
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Yeah handcent killed me, made the phone not just a dog, but a wounded dog born with 2 legs. 10x worse than the stock hero app, which is bad.
I'm running handcent, but I haven't noticed any specific slowdowns from it. It can take a while to load the main handcent screen when you have lots and lots of texts in there, but I usually clear them out when I get over 100 or so anyway.
Check to see that you have the most recent version of Handcent. I think I read that there was a performance bug related to their special "with Christmas animations" holiday release (that has since been fixed).
Also, remember to clear the boot-cache directory and reboot after upgrading apps ('rm -r /data/boot-cache/*'; reboot). The Hero has problems with caching apps after upgrades (so you aren't actually running the upgrade version). I have no idea if this was fixed in the newer ROMS. I'm running Fresh and still do it, as it only takes a sec (if you have the android-sdk and root set up).
Turning off HandCent popup notifications resulted in a substantial performance increase for me. Which is good, as I really like the features HC adds (such as voice-to-text).
I had the latest version and it was always cleared out sms wise. and I never used popup notifications.. they were annoying.. and I just got a fresh replacement of the Hero (warrantee) and its still on stock rom and Handcent still killed it.. in one day..
i have not rooted, pure stock phone. only app i think runs in background is email and loopt
I notice the lag from everything to sense UI to the clock taking 2-3 secs to update to my contacts scrolling, to text message lag, to calling even lags. like anything and everything can lag.
It all has to do with this bug in Android 1.5:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3453
I'm running AOSP 1.6 on my Hero right now and it is ridiculously fast.
So yes, I think that the 2.1 update (which hopefully will come out soon) is going to fix these issues for us.
on your location settings turn off "network location" then reboot..your lag will be gone...and make sure you have a task manager installed too and end your apps so they take over your processor
Task managers are a waste of time.
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Task managers are a waste of time.
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I agree with this statement.
Sawawa said:
It all has to do with this bug in Android 1.5:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3453
I'm running AOSP 1.6 on my Hero right now and it is ridiculously fast.
So yes, I think that the 2.1 update (which hopefully will come out soon) is going to fix these issues for us.
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This is very true. I was running the 2.1 build from here the last few days (thought I had to revert due to missing some texts and voicemail) and it's much speedier. It uses the HTC keyboard, but it's much faster in its response, almost instantaneous. The location bug really does suck up a lot of CPU time.
Also, maybe its just me, but I think it's important to remember the kind of device we're using, the hardware involved, and what you're asking it to do. It's not like you're walking around with a quad core CPU and 4GB of RAM in your pocket, but it seems a lot of people think it should respond as if that's what it has. It's a phone, yes, and it should be able to do phone stuff quickly if possible, but look at all it can and is doing. If you need absolute speed, get a dumb phone that can't browse the web, play games, or do just about anything. It'll run just fine.
handcent never made my phone lag. The only thing that made my phone lag was HTC's battery widget. Damn thing slowed my phone down so I uninstalled it and phone is running back fast again. I still use task manager because I do notice once to many apps are open it lags. Don't care what anyone says it happens on my phone. I do have a lot of applications on ignore though.
Try disabling Location services.
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I used to wholeheartedly disagree with this statement, until I read a kickass article explaining how Android actively manages memory.
Now, I also agree with this statement 100%. I don't even use my paid task manager app anymore. :/
Just wonder guys, I know my X is supposed to be a beast of a phone, but my Incredible seemed faster and more responsive.
I dont know if I am doing something wrong. Here's what I did:
Re-loaded most of my apps once I loaded on MyBackupPro, the SD card in the phone is the one I took out of the Incredible.
Now the phone kind of chugs along at times, more so than my Inc ever did.
I even have Task Killer Pro killing the MotoBlur apps since I am not using it, I know I know taskillers are 50/50 shot, but I like them.
Anyway, if there is anything I have done or am doing that may be slowing the thing down, let me know please and I will try it.
This thing is supposed to be a quick behemoth, so why is it stalling and chugging when I even try to open the app drawer?
Please any help would be great, thanks.
Many people are having this problem, including myself. You might want to go into Launcher Pro's setting and turn on keep in memory under general settings. The Launcher Pro forms also mentioned turning the memory usage preset to very low. I haven't tried that last thing though.
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Just wonder guys, I know my X is supposed to be a beast of a phone, but my Incredible seemed faster and more responsive.
I dont know if I am doing something wrong. Here's what I did:
Re-loaded most of my apps once I loaded on MyBackupPro, the SD card in the phone is the one I took out of the Incredible.
Now the phone kind of chugs along at times, more so than my Inc ever did.
I even have Task Killer Pro killing the MotoBlur apps since I am not using it, I know I know taskillers are 50/50 shot, but I like them.
Anyway, if there is anything I have done or am doing that may be slowing the thing down, let me know please and I will try it.
This thing is supposed to be a quick behemoth, so why is it stalling and chugging when I even try to open the app drawer?
Please any help would be great, thanks.
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go into menu>preferences>advanced and set all your scrolling and opening speeds up some to make transitions faster......also i know you say you like them but i would ditch the task killer...just another task running!
Hi there, on my second vibrant. I'm having some issues with this one and I need help determining if they are hardware related.
I'm running 3 homescreens with:
Beautiful widgets
Pure messenger widget
Switch pro
Pandora
I'm also running launcher pro.
I have some major lag problems when launching apps. It takes a minute or so to open most apps, plus I get a lot of black screens. I've factory reset the phone twice and the issues go away for a while on stock settings but the phone starts to lag a bit as I load apps.
Any ideas?
I might just return it....even though the phone runs ok on stock settings, might have a hard time returning it.
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most likely software.. and related to one of the apps you have dl'd. as you said in your post, the phone works fine stock and doesnt start to act up until you load apps.
i would suggest you just install your apps one by one and have a small testing phase between each one. then when it starts lagging you will know what app to avoid.
Wait did this happen on both phones. Even if not, still sounds like something you've done to the phone. I would root and run autostarts to prevent certain items from opening. It's all in the sticky if you want to try.
Its both, look into the lag fix. Launcherpro + all widgets are running off the internal sd along with the appdata (thats moved in the lag fix) and with the poor performing I/O of the internal sd, it lags. The stock launcher + samsung apps is built into the system dir (internal nand) so doesn't lag as bad.
No, I returned the first phone because the homekey wasn't working.
Once the apps do manage to load, I notice that there isn't anything I can do to slow the phone down. Certainly seems more and more like a software bug...Maybe Launcher Pro isn't playing nice (even though I've reinstalled it a few times, and after factory reset). That or the Pure Messenger widget (scrollable) is what's screwing everything up. It worked fine on my Mytouch 3gs though...We'll see.
I'll add apps one by one until I find the culprit.
OK, thus far installed ADW instead of Launcher Pro...
Everything seems to work really well thus far. ADW seems to handle scrollable pure messenger widget much better than Launcher Pro. I think that was the source of my incredible lag.
Still testing, but has anyone else had issues with the scrollable pure messenger widget and Launcher Pro?
hey guys. i'm a very nitpicky person and there has been a few "issues" that have been ticking at me lately. i wanted to ask to see if it's an issue with my rom (OMJ v3.1 odex) or just general issues with the phone that I have to live with.
1) for a 1ghz phone, it takes FOREVER to load. i'm usually anywhere from 15 to 45 seconds on the splash screen, after which the boot animation plays and maybe 10-15 seconds after the animation ends the phone starts to load....but it goes into the lock screen, and i have to unlock it, and then a million things start opening up, so that from screen off to fully loaded and ready to make a phone call the phone takes at least 1 minute, sometimes close to 2 minutes.
EDIT: just timed it - 45 seconds on splash screen, 25 seconds from end of boot animation to lock screen
i'm coming from a 667mhz WM6.1 phone that would boot, animation and all, be ready to call in 30 seconds or less.
i can live with the time it takes to load if it was normal...but then I hear things on here on how the evo loads in 8 seconds and i'm looking at mine and wondering what's wrong
is this a rom issue (OMJ v3.1 odex), kernel issue (king's #6), android (2.2), phone in general, or a result of all the different things we install on our phones (adblockers, superuser, custom flash, custom boot, etc)?
2) when the phone loads it always opens the dialer. i go back into home screen. throughout the day at least once or twice the dialer will randomly open on its own when i unlock my screen.
3) wi-fi at home is secured through wep2...but at school is unsecured to connect, but then you need to authenticate through the browser. sometimes this works, sometimes the browser (dolphin hd) just stays loading and doesnt take me to the authetication page...and the only way around is it to disable and enable wifi again. then everything is perfect.
is this a rom issue? or a dolphin hd issue?
4) I have LauncherProPlus with their custom icons from the website. whenever i restart the phone the icons for Dolphin HD, Documents to Go, MixZing and Pandora change to their standard icons. i have to restart launcherpro and they go to the matching icons i have throughout the homescreens. then at random points those three icons revert back to the stock icons, and i have to restart launcher pro.
is this a LP problem, a rom problem, or a me-specific problem?
5) perhaps the most important issue - i have problems downloading and installing certain apps in the market. I paid for lcd density changer and installed it. uninstalled it later on. now i'm trying to reinstall and I keep getting an installation unsuccesful message...same thing goes for Rom Manager (which i have installed, but installation unsuccessful with update), and many others. Some programs will update, some wont. Today I tried to download 3d gallery through the market and keep getting that issue.
this has happened with other programs in the past, where I thought maybe they werent meant for the EVO...but many of those had comments from EVO users??? and now some of those programs that wont install are programs I HAD or I HAVE installed!!!
is this a rom specific issue? or a market issue? or an odex issue? or does it have anything to do with having app2sd and move2sd enabler on the phone? none of the programs in question have been moved to the sd card...obviously not the ones like 3d gallery that I haven't yet installed.
so, thank you for reading through all that. any help in either of the issues will be greatly appreciated.
if most of the issues are rom-related i will go hunting for a new, stable rom. if they're general woes that come with owning the Evo then I guess i need to know that too.
thanks in advance!
I can't really help you much in terms of a solution, but coming from a Blackberry the EVO boot time seems very fast! However, the EVO is definitely not an 8 second loader, I don't know where you got that information.
is this a rom issue (OMJ v3.1 odex), kernel issue (king's #6), android (2.2), phone in general, or a result of all the different things we install on our phones (adblockers, superuser, custom flash, custom boot, etc)?
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This is just a guess, but I'd say it's the ROM you're using. Have you tried anything else? Make a nandroid backup of your phone now, then flash another ROM and test it out, it's easy to revert with the nandroid backup. Keep in mind the first time you load any newly flashed ROM it will take longer than normal to boot.
In my experience, stock 2.2 and all its OTA updates (and the ROM I use that is based on the latest OTA) are pretty good when it comes to boot times. Anything you install may have the potential to slow things down.
I'm currently using the VaelPak 2.2 ROM with the latest HTC kernel (no 30FPS limitation) which is very stable and very fast. VaelPak stripped out some of sense (not all) and I love how you have the choice between HTC/Sense elements or AOSP. For example, I actually like the HTC dialer, messaging, and contacts.
thanks.
i guess i'm going to have to flash a new rom...but it'll have to wait till next week!
i'll look into the different roms but i had thought of flashing CM6 since I'm not using any sense other than the dialer as far as i know
thanks
any other opinions are welcome!
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4) I have LauncherProPlus with their custom icons from the website. whenever i restart the phone the icons for Dolphin HD, Documents to Go, MixZing and Pandora change to their standard icons. i have to restart launcherpro and they go to the matching icons i have throughout the homescreens. then at random points those three icons revert back to the stock icons, and i have to restart launcher pro.
is this a LP problem, a rom problem, or a me-specific problem?
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Are all of those apps saved on your SD Card? I wonder if that has anything to do with it.
yes all four apps are in the sd card. i was using pandora and plugged the phone in to my pc to try to install that 3dgallerym.apk i found on here. pandora stopped (i'm assuming as the sd card was unmounted). after unplugging and the card was remounted i was able to open pandora again...but then the 4 icons had reverted again.
i'm starting to think that is a lp issue. i'll send a message to the developer see what he says about it.
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i'm starting to think that is a lp issue. i'll send a message to the developer see what he says about it.
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FYI they have their own forum. You should see if it has already been answered there.
http://www.launcherpro.com/forum/
The boot up taking so long is do to custom roms being deodexed.. It puts the odex file into the apks so that you can theme a rom without any problems. Stock roms arent deodexed so they boot up a lot faster. Its the only downside to deodexing a rom.
Also you should try to start fresh.. wipe data and dalvik and reboot. Then see if you have a problems with downloading and stuff. It might be cache left on the phone messing it up. If a clean data/dalvik wipe doesnt fix your problems then its most likely the rom or user error. Try a different rom for couple weeks and see if you come across the same problems.
My rom is odexed...
Im going to try cm6 next week most likely...
Swyped from an HTC Evo on MetroPCS...
First off, are you running a task killer or manager? If so, uninstall and reboot. A lot of the time this is the source of problems. Android manages its own tasks quite well. I can go into a lot more details if you'd like about why you shouldn't use one.
If not using a task killer or that did not help....
I say try Fresh ROM or Myn's Warm. Fresh is very stable. I think you may have a corrupt download of the ROM. However, since you are using LP you don't seem like a Sense UI person so CM6 may be your option. However, it does not have 4G nor HDMI. Personally, I love Fresh ROM. The dev came from the Hero like me and has a very very good track record for being stable and fixing things. And he is a cool guy.
Install one of those and then post back if you still have problems. I think this will fix it.
BTW did you flash from another ROM and use a backup app to restore? This can cause problems with ROMs that have different settings and options.
As for boot times, like the earlier guy said deodexed ROMs do extra stuff while booting. Also, lots of apps can cause slow boots because they start up on boot. You can use an app to disable them.
And last, app not installing. Hit menu-settings-applications-manage applications. Hit the SD tab and see if those apps show up. If so, click on them and uninstall. This will most like fix that issue.
Post back results here or if you need further help. We will be glad to help.
-Ken
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Pandora has always been glitchy. Its a great service, but they need a new programmer.
8 second phone. I think not. Try the Desire Z (G2), their version of Froyo looks faster.
If your new to the EVO, give it some time. Its a smartphone, and anyone with experience knows that all smartphones are temperamental some times, just like computers.
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Pandora has always been glitchy. Its a great service, but they need a new programmer.
8 second phone. I think not. Try the Desire Z (G2), their version of Froyo looks faster.
If your new to the EVO, give it some time. Its a smartphone, and anyone with experience knows that all smartphones are temperamental some times, just like computers.
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i've been on the evo for a little over a month now getting into it hard...i've learned too much too quickly...but yeah i definitely see the "like computers" temperamental issues at times.
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First off, are you running a task killer or manager? If so, uninstall and reboot. A lot of the time this is the source of problems. Android manages its own tasks quite well. I can go into a lot more details if you'd like about why you shouldn't use one.
not using any task manager. used to have advanced task killer but someone else recommended uninstalling it before.
If not using a task killer or that did not help....
I say try Fresh ROM or Myn's Warm. Fresh is very stable. I think you may have a corrupt download of the ROM. However, since you are using LP you don't seem like a Sense UI person so CM6 may be your option. However, it does not have 4G nor HDMI. Personally, I love Fresh ROM. The dev came from the Hero like me and has a very very good track record for being stable and fixing things. And he is a cool guy.
im considering CM6 because i barely use any sense apps. mainly flashlight, clock and htc lockscreen. i'm on metropcs so i cant use 4G and i dont have a HDTV so no need for HDMI
Install one of those and then post back if you still have problems. I think this will fix it.
BTW did you flash from another ROM and use a backup app to restore? This can cause problems with ROMs that have different settings and options.
have not done that...and now i know not to do it when i change roms.
As for boot times, like the earlier guy said deodexed ROMs do extra stuff while booting. Also, lots of apps can cause slow boots because they start up on boot. You can use an app to disable them.
And last, app not installing. Hit menu-settings-applications-manage applications. Hit the SD tab and see if those apps show up. If so, click on them and uninstall. This will most like fix that issue.
well the problem is 1) if the app is in my sd card, i dont need to uninstall it, just move it to the phone and then i can update it. but i have over 100 apps installed, it is not practical to do this for every update for every app! 2)some apps, like LCD Density Changer, which I paid and had installed before, wont install at all and i dont have it installed...so what there?
Post back results here or if you need further help. We will be glad to help.
-Ken
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i think i'm definitely changing roms....just have to consider if i want to get a stock rom or go to cm6
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I say try Fresh ROM or Myn's Warm. Fresh is very stable. I think you may have a corrupt download of the ROM. However, since you are using LP you don't seem like a Sense UI person so CM6 may be your option. However, it does not have 4G nor HDMI.
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The OP's sig says he has his EVO on MetroPCS; if that's the case then lack of 4G shouldn't be a concern.
That's the only real thing keeping me from trying CM6, even though there are only a few pockets of 4G coverage where I live.
Well I switched roms to ava v9 and some of the issues seem to have gone away...but still having problems installing apps from market...many if the apps and games I had before on my previous rom give an installation unsuccessful message...
Im thinking it may be something I damaged by installing htc and sprint apps right after flashing the rom...I'm going to restore all those files and see what happens...
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Hey.
I have Legend since few months and now I have a slight problem with it. It get so laggy sometimes that after I press END CALL after the call, I must wait 3-5 seconds sometimes for menu to get back to the desktop (during this time a contact photo is still on the screen. will factory reset help? it is happening also after a reboot after 1-2 hours. It is unbranded, unrooted, with the latest OTA update available in Europe.
next thing is that when the phone is laying still, and someone calls me, the ringtone gets muted after 1-2 seconds. can anyone help me with these?
What all applications have you installed on it ?
It could very well be some buggy application.
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What all applications have you installed on it ?
It could very well be some buggy application.
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Very well, indeed.
I had similar problems with Desktop Visualizer and Launcher Pro for example. Having too many custom shortcuts and size-heavy images on the home screens caused my phone to slow down to a an unpleasent extent.
Well first of all launcher pro. But before it was flying. I have around 100megs free on Phone memory, some apps (before it was ok), few games biggest one is angry birds and that all. And widgets smoothcalendar, launch x pro and beautiful widgets.
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I don't think launcher pro is the culprit here.
But you might wanna check the widgets you' ve installed. Some of them could be clogging the resources.
Try backing up all your apps, uninstall third party stuff one by one and see if they're is any difference.
If you have root (soft root is enough) you could use titanium backup app (free) from market. It'll make the job of backing up and restoring your apps a breaze (including the data and preferences)
I forgot about Skype which is also bigger than other apps. And of course im using advance task killer - maybe that is the problem?
I dont have a root im waitin for official friggin froyo from htc, then im gonna root for sure.. I h8 Sense but its clock app and dialer is unreplaceable.
is there any fast way to root legend without goldcard? (i think I read somewhere that goldcard is only required for branded devices - am i right?)
You could try removing apps one by one and see their effect.
I personally use system panel (purchased, not the free one) installed which enables you to monitor battery/cpu usage. That does help me in identifying stealthy apps which just sits there and consume the resources.
You can do soft root without going through all those lengthy rooting procedure.
You could try modaco visionary, did work for me. use the temp root option to have soft root. and you'll have root till you reboot.
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...m/320722/19-nov-r14-visionary-one-click-root/
rooting is not persistent throughout reboots, so you'll have to use the app every time after you reboot if you need root again.
I used this guide to root my legend and install a froyo rom. it was kind of easy, even creating the gold card was simple.
http://bandla.wordpress.com/2010/09/18/htc-legend-guide-to-rooting-and-installing-froyo-rom/
If you indeed go ahead with it, just make sure to insert the created gold card before running the file
RUU_Legend_HTC_WWE_1.31.405.5_R_Radio_47.26.35.04_ 7.05.35.26L_release_126592_signed.exe
when they say that in the guide.
for the backup using titanium backup, soft root is enough for you.
ok I will try it.. thanks for help, I hope that it will solve my problem