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[Q] Smoothest NAND ONLY Desire Z or HD ROM?

I'd like to try literally every Desire HD or Z ROM out there to find what the smoothest one is... No overclocking allowed (SetCPU is OK to setup profiles/governor), no data.img , no EXT2/3/4 involved. The problem is that when working 70+ hours a week, you simply don't have a lot of time to try them all! Plus I depend on my phone for work emails - I can't go without it too terribly long!
In YOUR experience, what is the most smooth and stable Desire HD or Z ROM out there? (FOR TMOUS Branded HD2)
NO - I don't give a rat's rear end about quadrant scores - I am talking about real life speed and lag (or lack there of!) Overclocking for me has done nothing but cause the phone to run slower and less reliably, so I'd rather stick at stock speeds or an extremely modest overclock.
I'm currently running MDJ's CyanogenMod7 2.6 - it's wicked smooth, but I can't help but miss a lot of what Sense offers.
Any input is greatly appreciated!

these kinds of questions are looked down upon in forums, mostly, as conditions always change,
but some say DL DesireZ is the smoothest out there at the moment.
I haven't personally tried it, though

Go to the android dev section at htcpedia.com and download DesireHD-Version of mcmmjoon (currentlx version 5.1) The ROM also achieves 2mAh in Standby!
You cannot get the ROM here because mcmmjoon was kicked from the boards.

JWhipple said:
I'd like to try literally every Desire HD or Z ROM out there to find what the smoothest one is... No overclocking allowed (SetCPU is OK to setup profiles/governor), no data.img , no EXT2/3/4 involved. The problem is that when working 70+ hours a week, you simply don't have a lot of time to try them all! Plus I depend on my phone for work emails - I can't go without it too terribly long!
In YOUR experience, what is the most smooth and stable Desire HD or Z ROM out there? (FOR TMOUS Branded HD2)
NO - I don't give a rat's rear end about quadrant scores - I am talking about real life speed and lag (or lack there of!) Overclocking for me has done nothing but cause the phone to run slower and less reliably, so I'd rather stick at stock speeds or an extremely modest overclock.
I'm currently running MDJ's CyanogenMod7 2.6 - it's wicked smooth, but I can't help but miss a lot of what Sense offers.
Any input is greatly appreciated!
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I used to be adamant about having Sense, couldn't stand the stock Froyo UI. Then I tried WP7, and that lived all but 2 hours on my HD2 - that's one limited UI and phone OS. After that, I switched to MDJ's CM7 - and loving it for speed and smoothness.
I've been looking for widgets that would be as informative as those in Sense, and found the following solution, which works great for me:
a. Launcher Pro Plus - paid software, but comes with really nice widgets for calendar, "Friends Stream", contacts. Similar to Sense. Nice transitions. Highly recommended.
b. Fancy Widget - clock / weather similar to that of Sense, limited to one city. Paid version supports skins, and HTC 7 is almost an exact replica of that in Sense.
c. You may try Beautiful Widgets as well - has some goodies.
d. DialerOne (free) supports contact search from the phone keypad.
With all this, I'm fine with the rest of the UI, and the speed cannot be beat.

Is MDJ's CyanogenMod7 2.6 running Android 2.3?

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Is MDJ's CyanogenMod7 2.6 running Android 2.3?
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Yes, as shown on the ROM thread!
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I totally agree, mdj cyanogen mid seven is my daily. Sense looks better, and sometimes may be more intuitive or user friendly, but my god that gingerbread rom is blazing fast.
On another note, I liked beautiful/fancy widget as my clock until I found simi clock. This widget displays time, weather, and even battery percentage in one row. And it looks really simple and minimalistic, which I personally love
Edit: forgot to mention, the only thing the desire hd builds have over mdjs seven is tmous mms fixed. Still can't get mine to come in as well as on cmys build.
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bunnahabhain said:
Go to the android dev section at htcpedia.com and download DesireHD-Version of mcmmjoon (currentlx version 5.1) The ROM also achieves 2mAh in Standby!
You cannot get the ROM here because mcmmjoon was kicked from the boards.
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Is that ROM his own work though!?!?!?

I'm using iamgpc pure gingerbread rom. Its my first rom ever but its totally solid and fast and smooth as my mates desire
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Experiences with MIUI

I thought that I would give MIUI a go since I have read great things about it. I have been using CM for a very long time now, so I wasn't expecting to be blown away.
Overall I am pretty impressed with a few caveats. The interface is very nice and I especially like how the notifications drop out of the bar up top, like when you get a text message. I don't need to use handcent anymore to say the least. The built in theme manager is cool and overall the think the menus are easier to use then most roms.
Anyways, the main issue is speed and battery. I read great things about speed but I just don't see it. The homescreen lags, apps are slow to open, and things always seem to lock up on me. I didn't restore from titanium backup, I started fresh. I'm running Savaged Zen 2.2 as my kernel, but the speed seems sluggish no matter the kernel.
The battery life isn't as great as it was on CM7 either. I can barely.make it through a day on MIUI.
Any tips for improving performance before I leap back to CM?

I would stay with Miui for a couple of days and I guarantee you that the battery life will get better, also I would try using tiamat, or godmode kernel they are great.
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How do you change your kernal and which is the best?
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Download kernel.
Put into root directory of sd card.
Boot into recovery
Nand backup (because you never know)
Wipe cache and dalvik cache
Flash kernel
Reboot
Evo HW 003
MIUI 1.5.27 with Tiamat 4.0.3 sbc
Cut Corners theme

Miui is awesome but the lag just kills me. I've tried every kernel out there and nothing changed lol.
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Just flashed miui last night, wanted to see what it was all about. Took me a lil bit to get everything set up but now it's running smooth for me. Lovin it except battery life is killing me, unplugged it just 15 min ago and it dropped 30 percent. Ill probably run this for a week or two then nand back over to synergy or kingdom. Overall though I love the menus of this rom and all the different settings.
Battery dropped another 8 percent in the time it took me to type this.
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s0calstate0fmind said:
Just flashed miui last night, wanted to see what it was all about. Took me a lil bit to get everything set up but now it's running smooth for me. Lovin it except battery life is killing me, unplugged it just 15 min ago and it dropped 30 percent. Ill probably run this for a week or two then nand back over to synergy or kingdom. Overall though I love the menus of this rom and all the different settings.
Battery dropped another 8 percent in the time it took me to type this.
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Try using setcpu with the tiamat 4.0.5 kernel. Maybe your cpu is constantly pegged at its highest frequency so its killing the battery. With set CPU installed I had my Max at 1113 and min at 384 running smartass; I easily got 24 hours with moderate usage. Also download spareparts from the market and make sure your end button has the phone set to sleep.
Here's the free setcpu for xda users.
http://db.tt/eJ143VY
Here's the tiamat kernel.
http://tiamat-aosp.com/ccount/click.php?id=103
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I've used many kernals (mostly CM and MIUI) as they tend to have the least amount of clutter.
I've been very happy with MIUI (been on it for over 5 months) when I used to flash a new rom almost daily.
I've found MIUI (more than any other rom) has "finiky" issues with installs.
If you've not done it, I'd recommend doing a complete wipe using Caulkin Format All and Format Temp, fresh install of miui (reboot 3 times after you install it, helps get rid of some fo the chinese crap), flash a kernal of your choice (i've been rocking tiamit 4.0.5 sbc) and then configure your phone and set it all up.
I love the fact that you can have folders on your home screen (that show the icons of the content) however, it doesnt hide your status bar (I think it's stupid to have the clock show twice).
I use launcher pro and folder organizer ( available on market) and love it.
I have a very minimalistic layout with everything grouped neatly.
if you've not used MIUI, try it! Stiff is amazing!
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I hear that its very Iphone like and has a lot of things not working in the latest update, is that true been wanting to try it

Tiamat 4.0.4 is the best i have used on MIUI. Savage have never been smooth for me. Overclock to 1152 and it rocks.

ByrdDaMan said:
I hear that its very Iphone like and has a lot of things not working in the latest update, is that true been wanting to try it
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Everything seems to work just fine for me with the latest update. I haven't tried Navigation, but my GPS locks almost instantly, so I suppose it would work just fine. It seems like GPS is the biggest problem.
I still have the bug where the automatic brightness doesn't work correctly. I have just set the brightness somewhere and forgot about it. It seems to work correctly for others though. Guess it might have something to do with the kernel though.

LedGrip said:
How do you change your kernal and which is the best?
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Another easy way is to use Kernel Manager from the Market. He has all the most popular kernels listed there. It is a breeze.

try tiamat kernel 3.3.7 which seems to work the best for most people or try the latest one which is 4.0.5. I'm using the latest one with vipermod which is a tool to lower voltages and it's great.

fastest newest rom?

I'm trying out synergy newest on god mode and some aspects are fast but others are too laggy like when I try to open a program or move anything on my screen like menus or the unlock disc. Is there a way to fix this or is this Rom not as smooth and fast as it sounds and theres really something better out there?

flash the non-landscape rosie title bar in the synergy updater

I just spent all week trying out miui rom and I love the speed of it. There is NOTHING slow about this rom. Nothing laggy. Period.
BUT
The voice mail does not work right
and the GPS is **** at best.
Anybody have any better ideas of something similar to miui? Thanks.

ElementalWindX said:
I just spent all week trying out miui rom and I love the speed of it. There is NOTHING slow about this rom. Nothing laggy. Period.
BUT
The voice mail does not work right
and the GPS is **** at best.
Anybody have any better ideas of something similar to miui? Thanks.
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yeah you could fix the GPS in about 15min and use Youmail. MIUI Rocks

When I was last on MIUI the GPS f'ed up on me while I was trying to locate a bar, but when I tried the many GPS fixes a few days later it seemed to fix the issue.
The other day on Synergy I was using the GPS and it kept telling me to go the wrong way until I exited and re-entered Nav. Thankfully I knew the way for the first part of the trip so I didn't get lost but it was irritating.
So I think the Android GPS is just sometimes lacking

Nothing faster then an AOSP rom

I'm enjoying MIUI right now too, but if you want a smooth ROM that's solid out of the box, MikG 2.45 is what you want.

Vaelpak GB

dabbill said:
Nothing faster then an AOSP rom
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Can't get any faster than an AOSP rom...simply because it's stripped down and the most "basic" you can make your phone.

Evo deck nuff said!
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I'm running Deck's 1.3b2 build with Tiamat 4.0.6, ViperMod & the V6 SuperCharger script, I use LauncherPro Plus as my launcher.
Battery life is incredible (I'm using the SBC flavor), having zero issues with GPS, no app FC's, phone is smooth as silk (1194 max, 245 min, Smartass governor).
Quadrant scores average 1325-1400 (take that however you want to take it, just a number guideline). Keep in mind that "GodMode" hasn't been incorporated into any AOSP ROMs last I had checked.
This is honestly the best my phone has ever run. Under light to medium usage today, I'm at 85% after being off the charger 4h12m using the stock battery I got in June of last year.
I haven't run a Sense ROM in over 4 months just because of how tickled I am with AOSP, but of course, to each their own and YMMV. I've tried MIUI in the past, but I prefer a 180 pixel density, which MIUI does not support. I like to feel like I'm getting all 800 x 480 pixels when I use my phone.

I'm using synergy godmode with freedom v 0.6 and I experience no lag at all and for anyone that cares quadrant scores have exceeded 1600 running this
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I haven't tried too many, but between synergy, MikG (pretty much each version that's come out), and Ava's Ginger-Ale, Ginger-Ale is definitely the fastest and the easiest on my battery (in my experience). The trade off is that Ginger-Ale doesn't have quite all of the bells and whistles that the others do. (less of the sense 3.0 features, fewer mods and themes available, etc.

I am on deck 1.3b2 also. W sz 2.2.1 bfs kernel and SBC my phone is amazing. If u quadrant race I hit 1900s and avg 1700-1800s. Linpacks are in the 40 range all at 1113mhz on demand.
I am now using go launcher and ikandee theme w dare I say iOs icons lol. I am very happy. Full mirroring. Wiimote. Awesome battery. I had to flash maybe 5 zips to get it to here but the look is great. And 0 lag. It works so well and is the best rom I have used to date. I love sense. But this has converted me. I would be happy to send screen shots if it helped and mods it took to get here. Very simple really but very nice for me.
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1st run
2nd
3rd and 4th at 245min 1113max on demand. At 1190max interactive its hits 1900s a lot...

I'd have to say MikG
HTC EVO 4G running MIKG 2.45

Synergy rls1 +godmode /stock kernel / 245 min. 998 max. Hardware 4.
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THREESTRIPEBRAND said:
Synergy rls1 +godmode /stock kernel / 245 min. 998 max. Hardware 4.
sent from my Nike hating synergistic EVO!
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Sorry to get off topic but I am under the impression that godmod modifys the I/O and increases quadrant. Would you be willing to input a terminal command and test something for me? This is my quadrant on the 3rd run after the command
Type su(enter)
Mount(space)-t(space)tmpfs(space)tmpfs(space)/data/data/com.aurorasoftworks.quadrant.ui.standard(or advanced if you use advanced)(enter)
You will get a # sign.
You can either type exit or just back out of emulator until it closes. Then run quadrant 3 times. Kinda curious how it will act w your synergy rom

Edit: I just read that it uses ext2 to mount data and that is the reason for the increases. That command should still do something for ya

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[Q] ROM with Good Battery Life

Just wondering what the best ROM is for battery life.
Thanks.

DKMikey said:
Just wondering what the best ROM is for battery life.
Thanks.
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Battery life is based on you personal usage, how much your personal radio is cycling through radio bands, the ROM and the kernel... There is no way for anyone but you to tell how things are going to work our on any ROM... Flash away until you find what you are looking for and stick with it! Or you could always buy an iPhone...
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DKMikey said:
Just wondering what the best ROM is for battery life.
Thanks.
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Get a AOSP based ROM.
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h22aboi said:
Get a AOSP based ROM.
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Agreed, stripped down vanilla aosp is gonna be great on battery life. Not my cup of tea though, best battery life ive found is miui, royalginger and cm7.

[ROM] (v1.2.9_r2) CM Nexus Gingerbread 2.3.5 - Faux123 [Aug-07-2011] has had very good battery life for me and good performance too; easily beats stock sense.

TDJ's MIUI Rom has been my daily driver for a while now. With setCPU profiles I have gone almost 2 days.
Proof- as you can see, right around 18 and a half hours I plugged in for about an hour. That's it. So roughly 1 day 20 hours.
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This one here was a day of heavy use and calibrating my battery. Had everything on...GPS, BT, Wi-Fi etc..

CBConsultation said:
TDJ's MIUI Rom has been my daily driver for a while now. With setCPU profiles I have gone almost 2 days.
Proof- as you can see, right around 18 and a half hours I plugged in for about an hour. That's it. So roughly 1 day 20 hours.
This one here was a day of heavy use and calibrating my battery. Had everything on...GPS, BT, Wi-Fi etc..
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How do you get such great battery life? I'm using TDJ's MIUI ROM as well, but only get a maxmium of 20 hours (I barely use my phone).

DKMikey said:
How do you get such great battery life? I'm using TDJ's MIUI ROM as well, but only get a maxmium of 20 hours (I barely use my phone).
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That answer depends on so many factors. What apps you have and how often they access or sync the network, distance from cell towers, signal strength etc. I also have some great profiles setup in setCPU as well.
I've been testing and experimenting for years. Just trial by error.

Let's see:
3 Homescreens
Facebook sync is OFF, gmail sync is on (contacts + gmail)
GOWeather widget in the homescreen, as well as a picture frame widgets
I do not have ANY cell signal where I live...
Everything turned off besides WiFi, Rotation, Lock, Vibrate, and mid-brightness
WiFi calling is on
I do have an MIUI theme (the Phazon one)
Lots of apps, but I barely use them and none of them need constanct connection to the internet.
Always receive MMS is enable (have no idea what this does)

Just like CBConsultation, i've managed to get way over 1day on my phone running on MIUI, so that would be my first choice, then next would defiantly be Faux's AOSP ROM as a close 2nd. Even though I haven't used faux's rom recently due to the powers of the dark miui preventing me from switching w/o guilt. I've almost reached 2 days once, but I use games and other apps that suck up juice, so that's not happening. I use my phone as a phone, my ipod touch replacement, psp replacement, smartphone, gps, bluetooth thing, and what not. And I am overclocked but at the same time i've lowered the volts thru to negate the extra power drain of 1.4GHz as my max-and I use the new ondemandX governor, not sure what's new in the x version but I like it.

DKMikey said:
Let's see:
3 Homescreens
Facebook sync is OFF, gmail sync is on (contacts + gmail)
GOWeather widget in the homescreen, as well as a picture frame widgets
I do not have ANY cell signal where I live...
Everything turned off besides WiFi, Rotation, Lock, Vibrate, and mid-brightness
WiFi calling is on
I do have an MIUI theme (the Phazon one)
Lots of apps, but I barely use them and none of them need constanct connection to the internet.
Always receive MMS is enable (have no idea what this does)
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I use 3 homescreens as well. I now use Simi Clock for my clock and weather and set to sync every hour. Before I was using Beautiful Widgets. I have Wi-Fi on all the time as well. Rotation is on, brightness set to usually 25 or 50%
I use my own custom theme [dark themed and minimal the way I like it].
I use FB and have it and Twitter set to 2 hours. Gmail always on and syncing 12 labels. Lots of apps but no connection required unless it's open/running.
My MMS is set to always receive. That means that you can receive multi-media messages [like pics] any time.
Just takes time to mess with all your settings and apps. Kernel and governor makes a difference too.

Aosp FTW
Try Cm7,Royal Ginger, Generation X (my personal favorite), or one of Faux123 awesome roms with he made from scratch with out cm7 source code-but if you like sense but want 22+ hour battery life try Royal Glacier (stock sense) Royal thunder (thunderbolt port) or Royal Senseless.

xmc wildchild22 said:
Try Cm7,Royal Ginger, Generation X (my personal favorite), or one of Faux123 awesome roms with he made from scratch with out cm7 source code-but if you like sense but want 22+ hour battery life try Royal Glacier (stock sense) Royal thunder (thunderbolt port) or Royal Senseless.
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Blah. I've tried them all and they can't touch MIUI. Seriously, I really have flashed and tried all of those and MIUI is the best when it comes to battery. CM7 would be second as I used that for a long time as well and got great battery life on it. But the others IMHO are not nearly as polished or as good as MIUI.
MIUI is a fluid user experience. Every aspect can be custom tailored to the way you like it. Most if not all those other Rom's are basically the same old same old. Sense to the core.
Don't get me wrong, it's OK but sense framework is inherently bloat prone and slow. All the sense Rom's just don't compare to the fluidity of the entire UI of MIUI.
BTW: if you decompile AOSP you will find that even that is based off sense. Like the G2X. It was supposed to be pure Android when in fact its core has sense underpinnings.

[Q] /DigitalKarma v8 REINCARNATION Kernel issue

I want to dump the underworld kernel since my battery just gets sucked to death on this thing. I have tried flashing multiple mason kernels and even old savaged rom and tiamet kernels. none of them work. What am I doing wrong. Is there a specific replacement kernel I am missing for this?

DK8 is a Sense rom. All the kernels you mentioned are for AOSP roms. Thats what is causing your problem. If you want to try a different one, search for Lionfish, Chop Suey or Freedom. These are Sense kernels may work.

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DK8 is a Sense rom. All the kernels you mentioned are for AOSP roms. Thats what is causing your problem. If you want to try a different one, search for Lionfish, Chop Suey or Freedom. These are Sense kernels may work.
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Thanks. I wasn't really sure. I see Mason used on so many kernels i pretty much assumed I could use it. I just hope those you mentioned can match mason and the battery life it gives me

I flashed chop suey and currently my phone is stuck on that damn white screen of death as ill call it. just never leaves it. i guess ill reflash the rom and run the script that comes with it and if i dont see an improvement in battery life ill go to another rom

WTGreat said:
Thanks. I wasn't really sure. I see Mason used on so many kernels i pretty much assumed I could use it. I just hope those you mentioned can match mason and the battery life it gives me
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TBH you will not be able to match the battery life from running an AOSP rom on a Sense rom. The closest would be IMO Underworld with some underclocking and undervolting. Setting the brightness to low also helps, but its gonna be a stretch to get the same battery life.

I'm on this Rom right now. My battery life is at least 12 hours . I'm using the Underworld v.8 kernel by Ca1ne. Get a CPU tuner, preferably setCPU from the market or here on xda, and change your governor to Smartass v2 and your min. up to 384 and your max down to around 768 (mine is set to a little above that at 860). Then flash Vipermod and follow the directions for that. Every phone is different, but mine is around 75Mhz undervolted. There is always a way to get better battery life from your phone, from cpu tweaks to apps that turn off 3g or switch from 3g to 2g or 1x.
Just do some Google searches and you can usually find what you're looking for. There's always that handy dandy search bar on xda too.
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WTGreat said:
I flashed chop suey and currently my phone is stuck on that damn white screen of death as ill call it. just never leaves it. i guess ill reflash the rom and run the script that comes with it and if i dont see an improvement in battery life ill go to another rom
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Make sure that you barely clearing caches before you try flashing new roms. I don't know of you are, but you didn't mention if you did or if you don't clear them before flashing.
Edit: Make sure that you *always* clear caches.
I didn't notice my mistake until now. Auto correct didn't get it right this time.
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I switched from the no-havs Underworld to the havs sbc kernel since I was used to undervolting on AOSP roms. I felt like that made a difference in and of itself. One thing to note I believe if you read the Underworld thread, the kernel is set to Smartass V2 by default, however I think it is also overclocked so definitely follow the advice of underclocking and undervolting... When I first flashed the kernel my phone was so hot I didn't want to touch it, but now It's just fine. For values I am using the same CPU min/max posted above, but I undervolted by 50mhz instead of 75(my EVO won't boot if I go do any more than 50).
And finally I ran the V6 SuperCharger script baked into the ROM. Super easy install, just read the screen and have the Supercharger thread open on a PC.
End result? This rom is so fast it almost freaked me out, or at least made me curious as to how I put up with ICS/JB ROMs for so long. Everything is lag free and as long as I have this phone, my phone will be rocking whatever DigitalKarma is cooking up! Good luck!
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