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Which ROM should I choose!!!????

I've been looking all over the fourm reading about all the different ROM's I just cant decide which I like? or really my biggest concern which is the fastest and most stable...I can live without a camera for a little bit so thats not a HUGE factor. Alot of the ROMS that use over clock or require to use app2sd make you partion your sd card. I have a 8gb sd card I bought from best buy when I got the phone, how can I tell what class it is? my other question is what if i switch roms do I need to change my sd card or re partion it?
I tried Fresh 2.0d and after awhile it just got laggy!!! and I switched back to RegawMOD 2.1r

fresh 2.0d
mother ****ing word
when you feel comfortable... move to fresh toast... it's the shiznit!
just do fresh 2.0d for now, you will have to re-partition that later for fresh toast, but pull this thread back up once you get to that point and someone should be able to copy/paste a how-to

BAttitude7689 said:
I've been looking all over the fourm reading about all the different ROM's I just cant decide which I like? or really my biggest concern which is the fastest and most stable...I can live without a camera for a little bit so thats not a HUGE factor. Alot of the ROMS that use over clock or require to use app2sd make you partion your sd card. I have a 8gb sd card I bought from best buy when I got the phone, how can I tell what class it is? my other question is what if i switch roms do I need to change my sd card or re partion it?
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you don't need apps2sd to use any of the overclock roms. lol. If you want fast, go for fresh toast. it has brain **** scheduler in it that'll **** your phone's brain (in a good way ), or go for my darchdroid rom which is also fast and is built from source, but doesnt have a brain ****er in it... yet

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you don't need apps2sd to use any of the overclock roms. lol. If you want fast, go for fresh toast. it has brain **** scheduler in it that'll **** your phone's brain (in a good way ), or go for my darchdroid rom which is also fast and is built from source, but doesnt have a brain ****er in it... yet
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any plans on useing BF darch? that would be stupid fast

Go for Fresh Rom or one of Darch's roms.

yup, whenever i get around to doing a make otapackage i will release it.

Can't go wrong with Darchstar, Flipz, or Damage, Or Konikub's roms. Hell the 2.1 based ones are all stable as hell. Pick one, try it, pick another try it, etc etc etc. It's an addiction

Just remember tho......overclock=running hotter=shorter lifespan, otherwise, flash away.......

How should i format my sd card? like how much for swap and fat32 and ext2??
How can I tell what class card I have?

I'm also wondering the same question. I want the closest possible ROM to the regular HTC/Sprint one. Right now I am using DamageControl and just want to make sure I'm using the best I can use?

BAttitude7689 said:
How should i format my sd card? like how much for swap and fat32 and ext2??
How can I tell what class card I have?
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should have said what class when you bought it, ehh.. maybe look at the sd for a model number or something or look online or where you bought it from.
ehh.... ok so for fresh toast you need to part fat32+ext2 leave 32mb for cache and 512-1024mb for everything else
then you need to convert ext2 to ext 3 then convert ext3 to ext 4
that's how it's susposed to work, I wouldn't reccomend it for your first rom, but you're the one driving, we're just here to give you directions.

BAttitude7689 said:
How should i format my sd card? like how much for swap and fat32 and ext2??
How can I tell what class card I have?
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See that 2 in the circle to the right of SD? Thats a class 2 card.

Mine just says class 4 right across the middle.. lol
And for that one guys.. DamageControl or flipz 2.0d is the closest to sprint. It has all the sprint stuff in it.

If I wanna use Fresh Toast, will the ROM still be super fast if I dont use APP2SD because my sd card is only a class 2 and I really want to try fresh toast, and I dont want to take me chances with a class 2 card. Or do I need a class 2 card regardless if I use app2sd or not?

BAttitude7689 said:
I've been looking all over the fourm reading about all the different ROM's I just cant decide which I like? or really my biggest concern which is the fastest and most stable...I can live without a camera for a little bit so thats not a HUGE factor. Alot of the ROMS that use over clock or require to use app2sd make you partion your sd card. I have a 8gb sd card I bought from best buy when I got the phone, how can I tell what class it is? my other question is what if i switch roms do I need to change my sd card or re partion it?
I tried Fresh 2.0d and after awhile it just got laggy!!! and I switched back to RegawMOD 2.1r
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Cool story bro!

same here
Not to sound like a broken record, but I'm having this problem as well....
I as originally drawn to this concept by an article in the unlockr.com, and that person said that it came from damage control, so that's the one I downloaded. So, I have the 2.07.2, but only because it's the first thing i saw
My question is... is this version the latest and greatest, or is this one of many takes on the originally leaked rom... I dont care about overclocking or anything, I just want the latest rom with the coolest features until sprint finally stops dragging their butts.

HeroFixxxed
I installed the fresh2.0d yesterday, it failed me bad. Switched to the fixxxedsenserom v1 last night. WAY faster then the fresh 1.6 i had on it, web doesnt have flash?? thats weak but over all i love it...on second thoughts tho im not sure ill keep the htc sense in it, but it causes no conflicts. and i have a second launcher..anyone want to tell me y this is so important??

Upgradeable Memory COMFIRMED

I'm sure you all have read this, but if not, here you go: http://wpcentral.com/htc-surround-s-microsd-card-slot-probably-there-not-easy-get
The HTC Surround appears to have a microSD slot, but it's covered by a piece of metal as seen in the picture below:
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I'm personally not too concerned since 16GB seems like more than enough, but I'm sure people will be asking if it can be upgraded or not. We really won't know till someone tears into it which is more likely since it was released today.
*UPDATE*
I just came across this: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4015/htc-surround-review-pocket-boombox/8
It doesn't seem that difficult to get to actually, just a bit of disassembly required. It apparently comes with a SanDisk Class 4 16GB microSD card.

AT&T kills another great device! They also did it to the Tilt2 when they removed the 3.5 mm jack from that device. Somebody needs to fire an executive in that company.

T-Mobile did the same thing with the HTC HD7 but someone managed to swap cards and the HD7 worked with a 32GB microSD.

Stan City said:
AT&T kills another great device! They also did it to the Tilt2 when they removed the 3.5 mm jack from that device. Somebody needs to fire an executive in that company.
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Actually, It's not AT&T's fault. It's just that WP7 doesn't support swapping out memory yet, like say an Android phone.

Bought my surround today. ATT said there would be a patch comming out and not to insert a sd card yet....

The HTC Geek said:
Actually, It's not AT&T's fault. It's just that WP7 doesn't support swapping out memory yet, like say an Android phone.
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Yeah, we know you can't swap memory yet but the devices in Europe allows you to upgrade memory capacity before the 1st boot. AT&T choose to remove that option on the Surround not the Focus. AT&T's fault...

Just picked up my phone. Very solid device.

I got my surround yesterday, and so far, I am pleased.
Has anyone actually looked under that piece yet? A teardown of the Mozart revealed a similar metal piece that was not hiding a microSD card.
http://lifeinthefastlaneok.wordpress.com/2010/11/07/new-htc-7-mozart-sd-card-memory-upgrade/

Good find. I'm still waiting for mine, so someone else will have to dig into it.

Anybody care to break down their Surround?

Got my Surround 2 days ago
Nice phone, well built, the OS is slick with a lot of promise. Active tiles are slick, the Zune software on the phone & PC works great. In 2 days I managed to get back my BBC stream, got some video news, GPS is great, loaded some of my movies, set up my email, my contacts we transferred from my old sym at the AT&T store and I had no problems transferring them to the phone, and there are 100s of free apps already out and more coming every day. Pretty soon all of the developers will port over their apps and all will be fine again. Many apps use the GPS to find your area and cater what they deliver according to where you live. I paid $200 for it. I MAY have preferred to have the HD7, not sure since I haven't seen it and held it yet, but the Surround is really fine and if I decide to change or upgrade later on I wont lose anything. While we all get used to old habits and the way things work I thing this OS is an improvement and half the fun is setting up our toys the way we want them. Flash will be added to IE soon, upgrades will come from MS, we will be able to access the file system, more customizations will become available. The screen is twice the size of my Dash 3G. I am hoping an IRC client will be ported over soon since that is what I miss the most.

panflute said:
Nice phone, well built, the OS is slick with a lot of promise. Active tiles are slick, the Zune software on the phone & PC works great. In 2 days I managed to get back my BBC stream, got some video news, GPS is great, loaded some of my movies, set up my email, my contacts we transferred from my old sym at the AT&T store and I had no problems transferring them to the phone, and there are 100s of free apps already out and more coming every day. Pretty soon all of the developers will port over their apps and all will be fine again. Many apps use the GPS to find your area and cater what they deliver according to where you live. I paid $200 for it. I MAY have preferred to have the HD7, not sure since I haven't seen it and held it yet, but the Surround is really fine and if I decide to change or upgrade later on I wont lose anything. While we all get used to old habits and the way things work I thing this OS is an improvement and half the fun is setting up our toys the way we want them. Flash will be added to IE soon, upgrades will come from MS, we will be able to access the file system, more customizations will become available. The screen is twice the size of my Dash 3G. I am hoping an IRC client will be ported over soon since that is what I miss the most.
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I completley agree with everything you said. The only thing that kills me is the battery life. It is down right terrible. I dont fiddle too much with my phone as im usually too busy to do so, but when i do want to use it, seems like the battery is just not up to the task.

Tips & tricks
Have a look in the Windows 7 general discussion..there's a tips and tricks thread at the top that give you ways to lengthen battery life. There are quite a few things to do like time out the screen sooner, turn off geocaching, etc. It should help. So far I haven't seen any spare batteries for sale on Ebay but they will come. This is a GREAT phone.

Updated the first post.

I would, but:
1) Haven't bought it yet and
2) I'd probably end up breaking it.

I was going to buy a 32gb class 4 card (Kingston), but $100 is half the price of the phone and I couldn't justify it. I also loaded a decent amount of stuff on it and have 9.7gb left. I think I can hold off for a while till prices drop.

If you look at the teardown article further you will see that under the metal cover is a metal pad with foam and under that is a 16gb micro sd card. Not sure its worth it as someone pointed out it will cost a bit for a 32gb micro sd card and you will void any warranty. As for the post that said WP7 does not support changing cards out I thought one of the 3 phones with WP7 that AT&T sells had a removable sd card and onboard as well. That would make more sence that the drive with the ROM needs to static but if you have that the os should support a removable card its just that the surround does not have build in memory so the micro sd cannot be removed.

The Samsung Focus has an accessible microSD slot. I believe it also has 8gb internally.

Wifi Xoom + GSM\UMTS MiniPCI board = GSM\UMTS Xoom

In the ifixit teardown of the 3G xoom... there is (in step 8) a blank mini-pci board, presumably for the LTE upgrade.
If this is also present in the Wifi Xoom, and this card were placed in it's place, and the appropriate coding was done, would it perhaps ... function?
Just some thoughts...

Damn, serious? I'm kinda curious too now!

kmalinich said:
In the ifixit teardown of the 3G xoom... there is (in step 8) a blank mini-pci board, presumably for the LTE upgrade.
If this is also present in the Wifi Xoom, and this card were placed in it's place, and the appropriate coding was done, would it perhaps ... function?
Just some thoughts...
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I say buy it and give it a try in all honestly it would be pretty cool if you could use it

Where would a sim card go on the wi-fi Xoom if you did this?

If you can get Linux source drivers, it might be doable, but you'd have to figure out a way to get the drivers to link up with the Android data layer (not sure if that's easy or hard)...

Scourge1024 said:
Where would a sim card go on the wi-fi Xoom if you did this?
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Wifi only Xoom has a sim card slot.
But I'm not sure if it has a pci slot.

poisike said:
Wifi only Xoom has a sim card slot.
But I'm not sure if it has a pci slot.
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It does? Damn, I should look more carefully I wonder if you can do anything with it... Like retrieve contacts stored on a SIM.

There was a similar thread already here somewhere. It would be great if we could achieve this, but it'll surely require a lot of coding

I think the minipci card has its own sim slot. i don't think it would interact with the xoom's own sim slot (although it looks like there is the contacts for a sim on the wifi xoom)

kmalinich said:
I think the minipci card has its own sim slot. i don't think it would interact with the xoom's own sim slot (although it looks like there is the contacts for a sim on the wifi xoom)
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NO the mini pci card communicate with the onboard sim slot through the bus just like in some laptops/netbooks/umpc like in the samsung q1u, I have 2 of these units the cam with onboard sim slots but no radio I bought 2 radios from ebay install them in the minipci slot and the onboard sim slot works.... I'm thinking of removing one and try it in my xoom wifi... they work native in many flavors of linu, in android x86 2.2 is scans mobile network but take forever.... so i still dunno....

antiguangenius said:
NO the mini pci card communicate with the onboard sim slot through the bus just like in some laptops/netbooks/umpc like in the samsung q1u, I have 2 of these units the cam with onboard sim slots but no radio I bought 2 radios from ebay install them in the minipci slot and the onboard sim slot works.... I'm thinking of removing one and try it in my xoom wifi... they work native in many flavors of linu, in android x86 2.2 is scans mobile network but take forever.... so i still dunno....
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DAMN!!!! connector is missing
Back to the drawing board....
well i guess I'm stuck tethering with my iphone 4 via bluetooth

Step 13
It says that xoom has FM tunner....
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Thomas1981 said:
Step 13
It says that xoom has FM tunner....
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lol i believe the WiFi Version is like a bentley cousin.... where the 3g version is the Bently Daddy...... lol lol lol lol

Thomas1981 said:
It says that xoom has FM tuner
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The Broadcom BCM4329 chip that all Xoom models use is WiFi/BT/FM (both receive and transmit).
But that's a moot point if they haven't connected the appropriate I/O pins to those of the CPU.

Is there an app to run on xoom and see what devices are recognised by the operating system and which are recognised but missing the drivers? Kinda like the device manager on windows?
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Xoom Experiment

This was an idea I had not sure if its possible but here goes.
We all know the xoom comes in 2 versions wifi and wifi/3g with a 4G upgrade. So far I can only assume this kind of modification is possible to do the 3/4G model.
As an alternative to upgrading to the 4G network or if your xoom has a bad esn it might be possible to remove the dummy half-height mini pci-e card and replace it with a mini pci express ssd hard drive. Both cards use the same 26-Pin connector so in theory it should work. Although there is no telling how or if it will even recognize the ssd.
I Purchased a used wifi/3g xoom from amazon and a 80gb intel ssd from newegg..........let the testing begin
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Definately fill me in on this
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Interesting. Would of made more sense to post after you tested.

I'll bet it would, but you might need a kernel with the PCI bits turned on or modified.

I remember when I bought a PCI express card for a netbook to do hardware decoding (for smoother videos).
PCI express slots can be wired in different ways, specifically in my case as PCI-E or USB.
This slot could be wired as either considering it's to host 3G/4G whatever.
So this might be a restriction on what cards can be used.
Also when I mistakenly installed the 3G images on my WIFI only. It would try connect by 3G card first (even though non existent) and then try to use the WIFI. So given the card and the right drivers there's no reason why a 3G ATT/TM card couldn't be shoved in there either.
Not sure I'd be bother with more on-board disk space TBH.

kcrudup said:
I'll bet it would, but you might need a kernel with the PCI bits turned on or modified.
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Your probably right.

Alpina? Hast du? /small thread-jack.

eaglecomm said:
Alpina? Hast du? /small thread-jack.
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Ich habe
Sold a while ago

What'd ya have? E38? E34? newer?

eaglecomm said:
What'd ya have? E38? E34? newer?
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E34 it was a 91 my dad helped me buy it after I graduated, not too long after that I sold it got a m-tech e30 and my cousin helped me with the s52 swap

nice.. I've got a 94 E34 540 6spd and love it.. hope you get back in to one someday.
ok really, /threadjack. back on topic....
So have you tried it yet? I have an 8gb miniPCI card just sitting around here that would be cool to try out if you find it works for you. Just like the others (and especially because of the work required to get the extra SD card running) I would imagine some kernel work would be required at the very least. As well as driver work. But who knows.. it's the ideas that count.

Small Update
I've got a bit of bad news for the wifi only owners
After taking apart my WiFi only xoom and comparing it to the 3G it's pretty obvious Motorola removed all necessary hardware on the WiFi model making in near impossible to try this. Although you could always buy a 26-pin pci-e connector and soldier it in to your xoom if your feeling brave.
Also my ssd will be here tomorrow 4/19 so we will see

So its the big day (19th) any good news yet? Really interested in this! Hope you pull it out! Think this will involve some kernel work as well? Maybe BigRushDog can help?

kenhunt said:
any good news yet?
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Depends- didja see the post where the Mini-PCI slot was missing? IOW, are ya any good with a soldering iron?

kcrudup said:
Depends- didja see the post where the Mini-PCI slot was missing? IOW, are ya any good with a soldering iron?
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But isn't he doing it to his 3g xoom? Not the wifi.

I wouldn't mind hearing about an update on this.

Same, how's the work going?
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Very interesting topic!

I guess no news isn't always good news??? I hope there is some progress on this, would be nice to use when i don't want 3g/4g on my xoom anymore...

4/20 Update
For those waiting for an update yesterday I apologize, work was crazy and I didn't really have any free time.
As of today all I can say is stay tuned..... I've contacted a few forum members on the topic for some more insight on the next step and once I know more so will you.

[Q] Where is SD Card Located, LG G2

First of all hi, I'm new here
I'm searching for the Micro SD Card already installed in my LG G2(16GB), I know that this phone doesnt have Micro SD Slot, but there !MUST! be a Micro SD Card. For example same situation was with my HTC Surround, there was no additional SD Card Slot, but when I dissambled the phone i found the slot, chandet SD card with new 32 GB card and everything worked very well.
so please help, and sorry for my English, I know I made a lot of mistakes

Don't think it's like that in the G2. Internal memory is not an SD card but a memory module soldered directly onto the motherboard.

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I know that this phone doesnt have Micro SD Slot
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I think you got it right in that sentence I'm afraid. Memory is usually soldered straight to the main board in the phone.. Not removable or replaceable.. I may be wrong but that's 99% likely from what I know..
So sorry but you're stuck with what you've got!
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robogo1982 said:
Don't think it's like that in the G2. Internal memory is not an SD card but a memory module soldered directly onto the motherboard.
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th3ant said:
I think you got it right in that sentence I'm afraid. Memory is usually soldered straight to the main board in the phone.. Not removable or replaceable.. I may be wrong but that's 99% likely from what I know..
So sorry but you're stuck with what you've got!
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thanks
i'm not stuck because i found this phone in airport

gurasa said:
thanks
i'm not stuck because i found this phone in airport
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And I bet you haven't been able to reach the recent call history or anything in order to try to return the device?

khaytsus said:
And I bet you haven't been able to reach the recent call history or anything in order to try to return the device?
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it was in box and totally new, asked few people and then brought home

Lol okay i guess if you keep it have fun with it i guess

Sorry for my English first of all, based on what you have said, you just randomly "picked" it up in the airport out of nowhere, which probably not your fault, ethically.
Now, about the SD card, I'm sure it's there inside the phone, probably right underneath of the PCB board or maybe it's even inside one of those layers. Rip it apart and check it out.

votinh said:
Sorry for my English first of all, based on what you have said, you just randomly "picked" it up in the airport out of nowhere, which probably not your fault, ethically.
Now, about the SD card, I'm sure it's there inside the phone, probably right underneath of the PCB board or maybe it's even inside one of those layers. Rip it apart and check it out.
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thats the thing i'm going to do, i'll rip it apart, cause i already have G3, and if i could manage and change sd card, it would be great gift for my sister

votinh said:
Sorry for my English first of all, based on what you have said, you just randomly "picked" it up in the airport out of nowhere, which probably not your fault, ethically.
Now, about the SD card, I'm sure it's there inside the phone, probably right underneath of the PCB board or maybe it's even inside one of those layers. Rip it apart and check it out.
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Agreed. But make sure you take all of the shields etc off to make sure it's not hiding under one of them.

Its invisable.

before you mess up the device
<common sense mode on>
don't you think someone would already found it and post the image on the internet and the news would be allover the android portals? (xda, android central ...)
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which variant of the g2 is it?
because i think that only korean variant has a separate micro sd cart slot
anyway, let us know how it went

are you guys being trolls or have no common sense. Only the Korea model has the SDcard slot and removable battery. Since you found it laying in it's original box, read the manual that came with it.

Khant said:
are you guys being trolls or have no common sense. Only the Korea model has the SDcard slot and removable battery. Since you found it laying in it's original box, read the manual that came with it.
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Clearly we're trolling a phone thief. Stop ruining our fun.

khaytsus said:
Clearly we're trolling a phone thief. Stop ruining our fun.
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he isn't a thief he found it. maybe he should have turned it in but he didn't steal it.

supergear said:
he isn't a thief he found it. maybe he should have turned it in but he didn't steal it.
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returned the phone to its owner jane smith after 2 weeks (someone posted a thread on droidforums.net), it was a birthday gift, for her husband
they showed the bill for the phone and the imei number was the same as on the box
now please with my uncles G2 here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2257421&page=2653#post62074967
sorry for the late answer

Is there any chance to upgrade memory or add extra microsd slot for LG G2 16 GB version?
I am running out space and this is only one thing which I dont like with my phone, I spend lots of time to find best ROM and to customize everyting for my need.
I was thinking about upgrading to galaxy s7 but I havent got time to customizing again everything, and I guess original ROM will be slower and slower with time, even on such a new phone like S7.
thanks for help

feeling7 said:
Is there any chance to upgrade memory or add extra microsd slot for LG G2 16 GB version?
I am running out space and this is only one thing which I dont like with my phone, I spend lots of time to find best ROM and to customize everyting for my need.
I was thinking about upgrading to galaxy s7 but I havent got time to customizing again everything, and I guess original ROM will be slower and slower with time, even on such a new phone like S7.
thanks for help
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You spend a lot of time to find best ROM and customize everything for your need, and yet you haven't got time to customize an S7, if you got one?!
And which phone doesn't get slower and slower with time?
You don't need a phone!

rdasante said:
You spend a lot of time to find best ROM and customize everything for your need, and yet you haven't got time to customize an S7, if you got one?!
And which phone doesn't get slower and slower with time?
You don't need a phone!
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No I havent got time for this,
which one is not getting slower and slower ? my LG G2 is same like it was in 2014 but only when I am using my ROM, on the original one probably would be different.