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Atrix vs Nexus S or Arc

Im really interested in buying one of these bad boys but can't really decide. Call volume and battery life is 2 most important thing for me on phone. And since arc is running GB does it have copy and paste? Why would you guys pick arc over those phones. Please don't say cause its sexy. I have till Friday to buy one of these. So please help me out guys. And is there any cases for arc? Or screen protectors? And how is call volume on arc still like x10? Or louder? Some Guy told me on Rogers that he tested arc on meeting and screen looked washed out compare to nexus s. And does arc can support third party earbuds with Michael? And how is stock earbuds sound quality?
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Lmao what's earbuds with Michael? I think if atrix had gb it will kill them both but apparently atrix have locked bootloader same like arc I might wait few months and see if Sony Ericsson has really improved or lying about opening the bootloader after x10 hard to believe that SE promises.
the_ahmadzais said:
Im really interested in buying one of these bad boys but can't really decide. Call volume and battery life is 2 most important thing for me on phone. And since arc is running GB does it have copy and paste? Why would you guys pick arc over those phones. Please don't say cause its sexy. I have till Friday to buy one of these. So please help me out guys. And is there any cases for arc? Or screen protectors? And how is call volume on arc still like x10? Or louder? Some Guy told me on Rogers that he tested arc on meeting and screen looked washed out compare to nexus s. And does arc can support third party earbuds with Michael? And how is stock earbuds sound quality?
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sofia-captivate said:
Lmao what's earbuds with Michael? I think if atrix had gb it will kill them both but apparently atrix have locked bootloader same like arc I might wait few months and see if Sony Ericsson has really improved or lying about opening the bootloader after x10 hard to believe that SE promises.
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Sorry to hi-jack the thread but X10 wasn't the first phone SE gave us some mumble jumble...
OP
I have to admit that I do care about the shape and look of my phone. If Nexus S was better looking phone I would definitely go with it since its a Google phone and you are updated all the time and all goodies for you. I am all for vanilla OS.
atrix is still new and I don't care about dual core, they are not there. It doesn't mean since it has two core then its better. For what use?
I would consider nexus S again if it was better looking(would be the best in one package) its not that bad but it can't compete with arc.
"because its sexy"

Nexus s is so much smoother and faster than arc and optimized very well and arc would have a carriers junk in there that it will slow down stuff. Nexus s is unique and nice device. And it will get the updates first.
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I cant speak for the atrix but its tough between the nexus and the arc. The arc has the better camera but the nexus is a little bit quicker imo, probably due to the fact its stock google and doesnt have SE`s stuff.
Both are sexy
and the arc does have copy and paste btw

No card slot in the Nexus would be an absolute no-go for me.

george232 said:
No card slot in the Nexus would be an absolute no-go for me.
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Put lack of notification light on the list too. Just remembered why I didn't get it.

Lack of accessories for arc. But im assuming as soon as Rogers Get the phone. There will be accessories available. Probably nothing for good 3 months.
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I'm searching for an android phone last two month. I have seen many videos of unboxing, hands-on, reviews, and etc. and I don't know why dual core phones runs android very choppi on interface, even adding that that phones uses good GPU chips. Motorola Atrix has a good screen resolution, but its interface isn't smoth, same as HTC inspire 4g.
There is a youtube video of an arc showed by a boy, apparently with the last firmware that looks very smoth (more than one or twon moths ago videos), except when you slide to timescape gidget.
I like arc, and i'll waith for the american version.

sofia-captivate said:
Nexus s is so much smoother and faster than arc
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I've been using a Nexus S for the past couple of weeks and I couldn't disagree more. The Arc feels extremely smooth in comparison, especially the homescreen/launcher.
Yes, I understand that the Nexus S isn't really as consumer-oriented as the Arc but it feels kind of half-arsed, like they haven't really finished it.
As for the screens, despite all the talk of how great sAMOLED is, I'd say the Arc pushes it pretty close.
The Atrix, on paper, is the best of the three but as a Defy owner, I'd never look twice at another Motorola handset until the address the bootloader issue.
The Nexus S is a decent enough phone but the Arc's just nicer IMO.

Nexus s and Arc have the same specs so basicly they have the same performance. The Nexus can feel a little bit snappier because it has vanilla android.
Why i love the Arc is because of it's screen, it's really great even under direct sunlight, compared it with Nexus one and Iphone4. The camera of arc is great but it's similiar to Nexus s. On paper Nexus s has a little bit better battery than arc but in reallity it's almost the same.
I can't talk much about the Atrix, doesn't sold here but it looks like a great phone, only thing that i don't like is the encrypt bootloader.

Step666 said:
The Atrix, on paper, is the best of the three but as a Defy owner, I'd never look twice at another Motorola handset until the address the bootloader issue.
The Nexus S is a decent enough phone but the Arc's just nicer IMO.
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Moto are really hurting themselves with the bootloader issue. If they think they are losing only xda users they are wrong. Almost all my friends ask me which android phone to get and I always tell them to get HTC as most of them are on Verizon. Recently, even the one's on AT&T I am recommending HTC over Atrix mainly because the bootloader issue.

kitsVA said:
Moto are really hurting themselves with the bootloader issue. If they think they are losing only xda users they are wrong. Almost all my friends ask me which android phone to get and I always tell them to get HTC as most of them are on Verizon. Recently, even the one's on AT&T I am recommending HTC over Atrix mainly because the bootloader issue.
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And are any of your friends likely to ever want to install custom ROMs?
If they're not, then I kinda have to wonder why you're precluding Motorola as an option - you may be recommending a handset that doesn't suit your friends' needs as much because of your personal opinion.
Not to mention, with their most recent handsets HTC are locking the bootloader too, so to recommend them over Motorola on that basis is pretty ridiculous.
The number of sales Motorola will lost over this is pretty minimal, even within the more technical circles - I mean there are plenty of people on here who own Motorola handsets despite the locked bootloader because the rest of the specs demand consideration.

Step666 said:
And are any of your friends likely to ever want to install custom ROMs?
If they're not, then I kinda have to wonder why you're precluding Motorola as an option - you may be recommending a handset that doesn't suit your friends' needs as much because of your personal opinion.
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Well, some of them do and others want to be able to do if needed . But most of them ask what I would get and I give them my reasons. One of the reasons I give them for not getting Atrix is because I want screen bigger than 4" after using X10 for a year.

Fair dos.
Most of my friends aren't remotely interested in custom ROMs.

the_ahmadzais said:
Im really interested in buying one of these bad boys but can't really decide. Call volume and battery life is 2 most important thing for me on phone. And since arc is running GB does it have copy and paste? Why would you guys pick arc over those phones. Please don't say cause its sexy. I have till Friday to buy one of these. So please help me out guys. And is there any cases for arc? Or screen protectors? And how is call volume on arc still like x10? Or louder? Some Guy told me on Rogers that he tested arc on meeting and screen looked washed out compare to nexus s. And does arc can support third party earbuds with Michael? And how is stock earbuds sound quality?
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I can't say anything about Atrix, as Motrola doesn't exist in Norway
I have X10i also & I know about low call volume issue, but Arc has not that problem. Volume is loud enough (double louder than X10i).. Battery life is also much better than X10i. I can't compare battery life with Nexus S, but with same usage battery on X10i drains 40%-50% in 6 hours while on Arc only 18%-20%..
To be honest, i chose Arc beacuse of its looks & camera. It's one extra screen protactor in box (as one is already isntalled on screen by default), and one case.. this one:
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My thoughts on the Arc and why im going to keep it (read if you want!)

Hello all.
Having owned an X10 for just short of a year I've lived through S.E's initial step in to the smart phone arena, and while they made a lot of mistakes with the X10 they have clearly learned their lesson. Many die hard S.E fans said they were going to jump ship when it came time to purchasing a new phone, myself included, however, having owned my Arc for nearly two weeks now I'm so so glad I stuck with them!
No matter what phone you buy there is always going to be something about it that you don't like, the only thing for me, or what I don't like the most should I say in regards to the Arc is their choice of rear casing, it can be a tad slippery at times so would have preferred to have the same black rubbery casing as on the X10, which I could sit nicely on the slant of the arm on the couch but the Arc just slides down so just sit it at the side of me of me now.
Sure a default Android U.I would be perfect but having now rooted and changed most of it I like my phone even more. There's a few more little niggles such as the bootup time but I'm sure that will be resolved at some point just like a few issues with the X10 were. It's easy to say when you buy a phone it shouldn't come with any issues, unfortunately they do, whether you go with S.E, Samsung or HTC, go browse the forums of any phone on XDA and you'll see that some people are happy with their phones and some aren't, "you can't please all of the people all of the time"!
I recall a user on AndroidForums who had had their X10 replaced a good few times, at least 3 or 4 but were never happy, always finding some sort of fault with the phone and soon became apparent that the said user would have been better suited with a Nokia 7210 or similar phone because their Smart Phone was clearly too smart for them. I'm not saying you need to be a technophile to be able to use a smart phone nor should you have to be for it work as intended, but some people are always going to have issues for whatever reason.
Some people are unlucky and receive a dodgy handset whether it's software or hardware based so there isn't a great deal you can do on such occasions, but that doesn't mean everyone is going to suffer the same issues one person might be having.
To sum up, I love my Arc, current Andoid OS, fast and looks the business, as I've already stated I'm so glad I decided to stick with S.E because imo they've made up for the mistakes they made with the X10.

This is something I would like to see .. Good work bud

+1
Love this thing.
-Sent from my awesome Arc (LT15a)

XperienceD said:
No matter what phone you buy there is always going to be something about it that you don't like, the only thing for me, or what I don't like the most should I say in regards to the Arc is their choice of rear casing, it can be a tad slippery at times so would have preferred to have the same black rubbery casing as on the X10, which I could sit nicely on the slant of the arm on the couch but the Arc just slides down so just sit it at the side of me of me now.
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Here is a rubbery battery cover for teh arc
h t t p://cgi.ebay.com/Battery-Back...ltDomain_0&hash=item3cb86e7a44#ht_3433wt_1119

kbadone said:
Here is a rubbery battery cover for teh arc
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Thanks, but it's a broken link.

It's technophile... technophobe is someone who's scared of technology.. (like my wife !)..
Good thread through.. Androids biggest perform is also its biggest success.. Openness. It allows the knowledgeable to do some seriously impressive things with their phones.. But it also lets the idiots have a go as well..then when they knacker their phone they blame everyone else..
Sent from The arc using XDA premium..

This time last night I was trying to decide whether to buy an Arc or go for something else. After reading the 'other' thread, I had some real concerns about how good the Arc really was. After ALOT more reading tons & tons of threads/reviews I decided to bite the bullet and get an Arc.
To be honest I really can't see what people are complaining about? I think this thing is fantastic! I've spent all day on it and can't see wtf the fuss is about. Battery life is good, it's fast and smooth and looks pretty f**king cool.
Granted I've only played with it for 10 hours but at this stage the biggest problem I've found is getting used to how sensitive the touch screen is although that's more my fault as I'm not exactly petite and gentle. Also, the back was quite slippery but I've put this skin on and it cleared that problem up....
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im_iceman said:
It's technophile... technophobe is someone who's scared of technology.. (like my wife !)
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Thanks, I thought it didn't look or sound quite right.
im_iceman said:
But it also lets the idiots have a go as well..then when they knacker their phone they blame everyone else
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+1! Like people who root their phones then ask questions like "now what", if you don't know what something is before doing it, then you don't need to and should shouldn't do it in the first place, imo.

XperienceD said:
Thanks, but it's a broken link.
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the link is broken because he put white spaces between http :s
http://cgi.ebay.com/Battery-Back-Co...ltDomain_0&hash=item3cb86e7a44#ht_3433wt_1119

The arc for me is definitely one to miss. You say the arc is fast. That's because your compairing it with your experience of the x10 with older hardware and dated software. Pit the arc against the newer 2011 phones and you'll find its quite slow in comparison. It is to the x10 what windows 7 was to vista (even then I feel I am being a bit harsh to windows 7). It's a polished up version and as such, I see absolutely no reason upgrading from the x10 to it. With gingerbread coming to the x10 soon, I'll see my contract through and hope SE come up with a truly worthy competitor. If they fail to wake up from their slumber by then, the GS3 will most likely be the choice (iphone rip off or not).
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@kbadone: this is the exact thing i was searching for... thanks ALOT..
i wish the silver/white thing was available.
hey.. are you using this cover?

commodoor said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Battery-Back-Co...ltDomain_0&hash=item3cb86e7a44#ht_3433wt_1119
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£11.59, ordered. Should be here by the end of the month.

XperienceD said:
£11.59, ordered. Should be here by the end of the month.
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Do give the review on this same thread..

commodoor said:
the link is broken because he put white spaces between http :s
http://cgi.ebay.com/Battery-Back-Co...ltDomain_0&hash=item3cb86e7a44#ht_3433wt_1119
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Oops my bad :-S
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Meh... All I can say is that the Arc is a POS phone.
Most people who purchase the Arc after owning the X10 are X10 apologists.
I am enjoying my Desire HD. However I will not be upgrading to the Sensation...
If SE has something decent up its sleeves and it comes up in time...

Maedhros said:
Meh... All I can say is that the Arc is a POS phone.
Most people who purchase the Arc after owning the X10 are X10 apologists.
I am enjoying my Desire HD. However I will not be upgrading to the Sensation...
If SE has something decent up its sleeves and it comes up in time...
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Or, we genuinely love our phone. ;-)
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Hey guys.
I am a happy owner of the silver arc for 3 days now. I am very satisfied with it, battery on the first charge lasted almost 24 hours - of course somewhat light usage.
I only had to insert a piece of paper under the battery cover to eliminate squeaks.
I noticed you had X10 before. My gf is very impressed with arc and because of the lower price of the X10, she is considering buying it. Can you tell me how much better is the battery on the arc, comparing to the X10?
Thanks.

Mercano said:
Hey guys.
I am a happy owner of the silver arc for 3 days now. I am very satisfied with it, battery on the first charge lasted almost 24 hours - of course somewhat light usage.
I only had to insert a piece of paper under the battery cover to eliminate squeaks.
I noticed you had X10 before. My gf is very impressed with arc and because of the lower price of the X10, she is considering buying it. Can you tell me how much better is the battery on the arc, comparing to the X10?
Thanks.
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It largly depend on how you use your phone and ofcourse the android implementation on your device.
Both x10 and arc just got 2.1.B and 2.3.3 update which many claim has increased the battery life.
Also, display is most important factor which drains battery.
Bottomline x10 will have tiny winy bit advantage over arc when 2.3. 3 comes to x10. Both have 1500mA battery.
So, imo, let handling, look, camera be the deciding factors.

I understand, but I believe that the screen on the arc should be more energy efficient. Check the presentation form the xperia acro launch in Japan:
http://www.talkandroid.com/37350-sony-ericsson-xperia-acro-presentation-images-leaked/gpad7/
And we should not forget the cpu technology (45 nm vs. 65nm).
I still believe that if you use both devices exactly the same, the arc should last longer. Just my thought.

Mercano said:
I understand, but I believe that the screen on the arc should be more energy efficient. Check the presentation form the xperia acro launch in Japan:
http://www.talkandroid.com/37350-sony-ericsson-xperia-acro-presentation-images-leaked/gpad7/
And we should not forget the cpu technology (45 nm vs. 65nm).
I still believe that if you use both devices exactly the same, the arc should last longer. Just my thought.
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That is something new i got to learn. Thanks =)

SGS v X10i

Hi,
When I left the x10 forums some of you asked me to do a post on the comparison of my new SGS to my old X10i. Well here I go:
I have had my SGS for a day now, the first thing I did was flash a custom rom and kernel. Now some of you said it was a little fiddlely it is a little bit fiddlely but reality it is only different. Using Odin to flash a rom is no different to using flash tool. One huge difference is you can flash a kernel on the phone !!! Yes you can us an app to flash a kernel without having to be at a pc.
The phone came with froyo, even with froyo the SGS felt smoother and faster than the x10 with gingerbread on it. Once the custom rom was in and the kernel was in i started getting the phone how i want it.
I have to say the phone is lightning fast, smooth and if I am honest the X10 is miles away from being anywhere near as good. The battery life is better, the sound is better, the in call sound is better everything is so so so much better.
Now this is just my opinion and my experience, but after using a Sony x10 for so long in truth the x10 was nothing compared to some of the phones out there. Even though the SGS is old now and has a bigger faster replacement out there is still loads of development happening and it can still keep its own with some of the newer phones that have come out.
My advice Ebay the x10 and get bidding on a SGS, if you are in a long contract like me. Or get an SGS2 if you can upgrade.
Sorry Sony not sure i could trust another device from you after seeing what you gave us with the x10
*this is only my opinion and my experience, I have returned to give it as requested by some users in my good bye post, please ask me anything if you want to know anything specific about the SGS*
I hope this has give you some idea from a users point of view and been informative

nice review. but i dont agree that x10 is that bad lol

I definitely agree it is that bad....
After using another phone you really see it lol
Thanks for the review, I figured it would go something like this hahaha

Devin-J said:
nice review. but i dont agree that x10 is that bad lol
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Honestly I loved my x10, but when you use something like the SGS you realise just what an android based smartphone should be the difference is huge

for my opinion, x10 is best android phone over its price value. even though the phone model is over a year but at 1Ghz processor, still not that bad nowadays. SGS is good but expensive. my next upgrade might be HTC phone

Please dont post like this i feel very very bad
I bought x10 1-2 months ago i was having a option between nexus s and galaxy s and xperia x10...
Galaxy S- I didn't bought it coz of touchwiz i was not knowing about its fantastic GPU...
Nexus S- I thought nexus S is only having 480p recording and the rest is the same...
Xperia x10- I bought it coz it looked great and the spects was also good and then came the video showing gingerbread update so i desided to buy x10 and bought it...
I was not knowing about its bad GPU but came to know after i bought it i was having hopes atleast the 2.3 update will bring something great but sony F***ed all...

Got launcher Pro Plus I removed touch whiz, even though it was not that bad
sorry

Hi Chiefy,
Have you got all of your apps on yet my x10 flew on gb after the fresh install but once I had loaded about 30 apps it slowed alot. I now have 65 market apps +, I'm overclocked with interactive governor, sysctl and build prop tweaks and its as fast as a fresh install again. (almost)
Cheers.
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tomh235 said:
Hi Chiefy,
Have you got all of your apps on yet my x10 flew on gb after the fresh install but once I had loaded about 30 apps it slowed alot. I now have 65 market apps +, I'm overclocked with interactive governor, sysctl and build prop tweaks and its as fast as a fresh install again. (almost)
Cheers.
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I have a bout 60+ apps on my sgs, over clocked to 1.2ghz and it flys everything is as smooth as butter, when i had my x10 once i had but in a custome kernel and z's rom I thought my phone was smooth, I can not begin to tell how just how much faster and smoother the sgs is compared to when i had my x10

Thanks for the thread Chief, soon as i get one off ebay i will join you for a mess about, will keep my x10, will see that out until it dies, be nice to have them side by side to compare but i trust you review as nobody knows the ins and outs of the x10 better than a flash junkie.

sahibunlimited said:
Please dont post like this i feel very very bad
I bought x10 1-2 months ago i was having a option between nexus s and galaxy s and xperia x10...
Galaxy S- I didn't bought it coz of touchwiz i was not knowing about its fantastic GPU...
Nexus S- I thought nexus S is only having 480p recording and the rest is the same...
Xperia x10- I bought it coz it looked great and the spects was also good and then came the video showing gingerbread update so i desided to buy x10 and bought it...
I was not knowing about its bad GPU but came to know after i bought it i was having hopes atleast the 2.3 update will bring something great but sony F***ed all...
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yeah nexus s had adreno 205 too, much better gpu than adreno 200

of course the x10 can't keep up with the newer phones, even if the devs get the utmost out of it you can't replace the hardware with flashing a custom rom/kernel. However the x10 is in no way a bad phone even in comparison to the SGS, I've flashed many phones for mates in the past and I must say, none of those phones felt better in my hand than the x10 (hardware/case wise). Of course they had better hardware and were faster but I don't use my phone to play tons of games with it, it's neat if it can do it but also very overrated in my opinion. I use it to read books, browse the web, watch a video or 2 and if the iPod is out of battery I even use it for music but that's seldom and the camera of course is still very very good on the x10.
It all comes down to your preferences, if you want to have a bad-ass phone that can compete with handheld consoles in terms of gaming you can of course put a lot of money in it, but if you just want a good, solid phone for everyday use without a lot of gaming the x10 is just right.
I use mine with Wolfbreak's ROM and ADW Launcher, have every animation off because that's not what I look for in a phone and it is very smooth and fast for me when browsing/opening an app, smoother than the SGS with MIUI, as smooth as the HTC Sensation/Desire HD with a custom rom.
Also I don't think Sony did a bad job at all, they might have screwed up early with 1.6 and 2.1 with call volume being low but they gave us 2.3.3 after all, not everyone would have done that and I've had the chance to work with an Arc lately and apart from the cheap backcover the phone is brilliant in my opinion and I would probably get it over any Samsung/HTC phone.

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as smooth as the HTC Sensation/Desire HD with a custom rom.
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LOL hahahaha
this is some bs.
People seem to lie to themselves to make them feel better.
Sorry but those on the worst laggy rom would still be 100 times smoother than the x10

Hey Chieff...
Ive also moved away from the X10 since May and i can tell you it was a great change... The phone is really fast and development is not near to an end... The only downside of the SGS i must say is the Camera but other than that the freacking phone overcome the X10 by far...
Chieff if you need any help in the SGS forums let me know i have worked and done some stuffs in there as well and kinda have some experience ....
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I think the sgs is the phone I would have bought if it was a choice (my x10 was a very kind donation!) sgs is the best phone of its generation and the development is one of the most exciting. I hear that there is a chance the devs can get hd2 levels of hackability!
Enjoy Chiefy!
I will wait for some ice cream sandwich flavoured delights in the future, and for now, enjoy my x10.
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tomh235 said:
I think the sgs is the phone I would have bought if it was a choice (my x10 was a very kind donation!) sgs is the best phone of its generation and the development is one of the most exciting. I hear that there is a chance the devs can get hd2 levels of hackability!
Enjoy Chiefy!
I will wait for some ice cream sandwich flavoured delights in the future, and for now, enjoy my x10.
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I also must have bought SGS now i feel like this...
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Nah, you should have got the nexus s!
Don't worry though, unless you are an avid gamer x10 does everything.... Just not quite as fast as other phones ;-p
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all my phones have been sony ericssons so far and i must say: not one of them has ever let me down or disapointed me. The x10 was one of the first phones with an 1ghz processor and i think it can still keep up with most of the phones of today.
But issnt the sgs much "newer" than the x10?

twowheeler said:
all my phones have been sony ericssons so far and i must say: not one of them has ever let me down or disapointed me. The x10 was one of the first phones with an 1ghz processor and i think it can still keep up with most of the phones of today.
But issnt the sgs much "newer" than the x10?
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Nope they came out around the same time

tomh235 said:
Nah, you should have got the nexus s!
Don't worry though, unless you are an avid gamer x10 does everything.... Just not quite as fast as other phones ;-p
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I m a gamer i also have a ps2 & ps3(jailbroken) i thought that x10 will fill my requirement of a psp but was not knowing about bad GPU all the rest is fine...
And the games that work that r unplayable due to buggy dual touch have to stick to x10 for a year or 2...
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Just received my Xperia Z - Thinking of swapping it for the HTC One

Heya, I tried to put as much information in the title and although I could easily write a wall of text here I'll try and keep it short and sweet
I was wondering if this type of topic belonged in the Q&A section.. But I believe it is more of a general discussion topic rather than something which can be solved
Please note that I am not asking which is the better phone or trying to start another flame war.. I'm just going to list my thoughts and hope that some of you can share yours!
Baseline facts:
Sony Xperia Z - Unlimited data £26pm (LTE later this year)
HTC One - Unlimited data £28pm (LTE later this year)
So, I received my Xperia Z today and to be completely honest I am not blown away by it at all (Which is actually a first for me as every phone I have ever owned has astounded me in some fashion).
I decided on it due to the overall price and the screen size (bigger is better) thinking that both were evenly matched
Okay, strait to the point.. Here is what's bothering me:
The screen size - Comparing it to my Nexus 4 (With the onscreen buttons hidden) a 4.7" screen is almost identical to a 5" screen with on screen buttons.. So one of the advantages over the HTC One is null
As the HTC one has dedicated buttons
The look - Maybe it's because I had my heart set on the HTC one or maybe its because I fell in love with the curves of the Nexus 4 but.. This just looks like a slab (Covered in fingerprints)
The feel - The phone actually kinda feels sharp / awkward when I hold and use it in one hand
Rooting worries - I've always ended up rooting and flashed every every android phone I've owned.. But I've read some horror stories about losing features (DRM and Bravia Engine). I really don't want to lose these as they are one of the few "WOW" factors this phone has
This is one worry that I'm sure could easily be put to rest by someone here
Battery life - Granted, I have been playing with it for most of the afternoon but it's lost a hell of a lot of battery in a rather short space of time. I'm not usually one to moan about battery life as I routinely charge every night but I need my phone to last all day with mid-heavy use
Notification Lag - Strangely enough while using Google+ auto-backup / instant upload feature my nexus 4 is getting notifications much faster (Minutes) than my Xperia despite the fact that the Xperia is the one uploading (Thus not in deep-sleep). Is this something anyone else is experiencing?
Speaker position - In a word.. Annoying. I've covered it more times than I can count and I've only used it a few times
Internet Lag - It seems to take about 5 seconds to switch from "H" to "H+" and then to start sending / receiving data leaving me staring at a blank page for a while.. Could be an issue with my network but I'm just throwing this out there.
Finally just general factors such as less power (Poorer specs) to the HTC One.. Almost every review site I have seen claims the HTC One is just "Better", even the camera on the HTC One is "Better" according to most of them so the Xperia really falls short on every mark.
Now the reason I posted this here is because I want to hear the opinions of those who actually own an Xperia Z and to get your opinions.. I already know what answer I'd get if I posted this over in the HTC One forums
On a side note I got one of these packaged with my Xperia Z:
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It's still sitting in the box along with my contract simcard, headphones, charger and screen protectors as I'm not sure if I'm going to keep them. Its a nice touch though and defiantly a plus point :victory:
I was planning on buying a bluetooth headset anyway, this one even has NFC and a much "higher-end" product than I would consider
Thanks to everyone who read this topic, I'm really not asking which one is "better" or trying to start any form of a flame war. I just want to know your opinions.. Would you switch? Why? Why not?
And please, please, please list out some positive features of the Xperia Z as I'm seriously disillusioned here
I'm talking about features, gimmicks, accessories, anything to make it standout!

Azurren said:
Okay, strait to the point.. Here is what's bothering me:
The screen size - Comparing it to my Nexus 4 (With the onscreen buttons hidden) a 4.7" screen is almost identical to a 5" screen with on screen buttons.. So one of the advantages over the HTC One is null
As the HTC one has dedicated buttons
The look - Maybe it's because I had my heart set on the HTC one or maybe its because I fell in love with the curves of the Nexus 4 but.. This just looks like a slab (Covered in fingerprints)
The feel - The phone actually kinda feels sharp / awkward when I hold and use it in one hand
Rooting worries - I've always ended up rooting and flashed every every android phone I've owned.. But I've read some horror stories about losing features (DRM and Bravia Engine). I really don't want to lose these as they are one of the few "WOW" factors this phone has
This is one worry that I'm sure could easily be put to rest by someone here
Battery life - Granted, I have been playing with it for most of the afternoon but it's lost a hell of a lot of battery in a rather short space of time. I'm not usually one to moan about battery life as I routinely charge every night but I need my phone to last all day with mid-heavy use
Notification Lag - Strangely enough while using Google+ auto-backup / instant upload feature my nexus 4 is getting notifications much faster (Minutes) than my Xperia despite the fact that the Xperia is the one uploading (Thus not in deep-sleep). Is this something anyone else is experiencing?
Speaker position - In a word.. Annoying. I've covered it more times than I can count and I've only used it a few times
Internet Lag - It seems to take about 5 seconds to switch from "H" to "H+" and then to start sending / receiving data leaving me staring at a blank page for a while.. Could be an issue with my network but I'm just throwing this out there.
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- Screen size: Can't really say anything about it since I came from the Note, and compared to that, the XZ is "a lot" smaller (Depends how much a lot is for some people)
- The looks: Just a matter of ones opinion. For me the XZ is the best phone I've seen thus far.
- The feel: Yap it could have been better
- Rooting worries: Totally bs. You will lose the things you mentioned when you unlock your Bootloader, but you don't need to that for root. And by saving your TA partition before you unlock your BL for the first time you can always re-lock it to get BE2 etc back.
- Battery life: What can we expect from a 2300 mAh battery, for that "small" capacity it's actually quite good. (Removable would've made it even better) Since the new FW the battery life has gotten worse for most people I think.
- Notification Lag: ?? No clue
- Speaker position: I Guess I'm one of the few that it doesn't bother, I use my speaker like.... once per month? Why do people complain so much about it. Listening music through such things is already bs if you're a real music lover, the only thing I use it for is like my ringtone when I receive a call. But most of the times I'm not holding my phone in my hand when I'm receiving a call so I have no problem there.
- Internet Lag: Once again no clue there.
It's a good topic you made, purely based on your own opinion, but because of that reason I also wonder why you made it in the first place.
It doesn't really add anything since (like I said before) it's purely based on an opinion.
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P.S. I also wonder why they didn't put like a dedicated button for the camera on the XZ.
You can say because of the water resistance, but the phone already has 3 buttons on the side (vol +/-, power) so I wonder if a fourth one would've mattered that much.

I also wanted to buy a HTC One instead of my XZ. The main reason why I went to the XZ is because the XZ looks in my opinion ofcource more like a buisness phone. The reason why HTC One dropped away from my list is also because it doesn't have an equalizer for my taste. As for me, I don't have a facebook nor any other social media account, so the UI of the HTC wouldn't be any handy for me. Can't say anything about the batterylife of the One because I never actually used it longer than a few mins, but the XZ's batt life is really crap compared to my Arc's. But I've managed to get it all along with automatic app killer and closed alot of apps and dimmed the screen a bit. The specs are good enough to run everything smooth, we're not going to play crysis on it. Browsing is fantastic on this phone, never lagged on the websites I browse. The screen is simply amazing especially with the new firmware. The smallapps is really something I really got used to it, can't do without them anymore. Videos and pictures are for some not good enough, but for me it's brilliant. Just need to play with the settings of the camera and got the most amazing pictures ever. Walkman and other Sony dedicated apps are also good.
Don't get me wrong, I also like the HTC One, I just don't find the htc handy enough. The Htc sense it just nothing for me, just eats alot of memory. The speakers ofc beats the XZ's speaker, but that's something nothing to worry about. Just use the headset, nobody wants to listen to your music.
As for built quality, XZ feels very solid in the hand. Drop the htc and u get the screen in pieces because the glass is edge to edge. And the Htc doesnt feel really premium quality in my hand. It has something of a toyish feeling in the hand.
Just an advice, go test the HTC One out in a local store like I did. Compare them to eachother, and you'll see what I mean. However, it's still your opinion and taste to buy the better one you think of. They are both very good phones, and blast the hell out of samsungs plastic toys.
Edit: Just browsed at thr HTC One topic and I'm actually glad I've bought the Xperis Z. Build quality sucks they say. Screen cracked easy in pocket and camera screen cracked etc. The battery ain't wow either.
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Cool, just do it we don't have to know

Dsteppa said:
- Screen size: Can't really say anything about it since I came from the Note, and compared to that, the XZ is "a lot" smaller (Depends how much a lot is for some people)
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Thanks for your comments!
Yeah I don't use the speaker for playing music but if I hear a new song or find something funny / amazing on youtube I instantly want to share that with friends and family.. What's easier than just whipping out your phone?
Thanks for clearing up the root worries, I read a few horror stories and thought it may not be worth the hassle.
This is kind of a selfish topic as I only created it because I have less than 7 days to send it back if it isn't right for me. But hopefully with people sharing their thoughts / opinions like yourself this could help other people facing the same problems!
JasonX199 said:
I also wanted to buy a HTC One instead of my XZ. The main reason why I went to the XZ is because the XZ looks in my opinion ofcource more like a buisness phone. The reason why HTC One dropped away from my list is also because it doesn't have an equalizer for my taste. As for me, I don't have a facebook nor any other social media account, so the UI of the HTC wouldn't be any handy for me.
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Thanks, I'll definitely try-out the HTC One instore. Who knows, it could feel worse to grip than the Xperia Z! I have been tweaking the camera and it's taking really nice shots even in poor light, I'll take it on some trips and see if the battery can keep up
I hadn't heard about the issues people have been having with the HTC One
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Well that's just it.. All the review sites have given me plenty of reasons to switch to the HTC One, I really hate making any decision with only half the story..
As I know I'll regret it if I ended up with the wrong device for me

The screen size
i came from iphone and previously even smaller phone, so first impressions were like ''OMG 5 inches way too big'', after using during some couple days, it fits to me naturally. the weight balance and thickness make it less big it really does
The look
i am not degrading HTC, XZ is simply more beautiful, i agree with others, its one of most design smartphone ever seen
i had a Sony Ericsson W880i before, somehow it reminds me it has some similarity between these
i honestly dont understand why people find HTC One as brilliant design, it just look pretty normal, maybe its because of full alu
actually i prefer square design over curve's one. One has some curve in its shape.
The feel actually it could be as better as worse, square design does not give good hand grip
that is the other side of the coin
Rooting worries if you were willing to root, you should accep the fact of avoiding guarantee, why not? lemme explain, rooting it will be at your own risk, Sony wouldnt prevent you from further issues with root like bricking, bugs... if you brick ur phone for good, dont go crying to Sony, that why they make such decision about DRM
anyway be patient, some developers will fix it and find safe root instruction in order to save DRM (i think it s possible to save it even if phone was rooted)
Battery life on average, all latest smartphones on the market have pretty same battery life according their use of customers
an user who spend day and night on social network, notification, playing game, LTE network etc will drain battery dratiscally
battery life its a matter of use, define your needs in order to find good setting for
Speaker position yes it could be a trouble if you dont use earphones for listening music as exemple
it does not bother me at all since i m using SBH20, NFC and wireless speaker
Internet Lag i didnt get any lag on internet, everything is fine
final advice for you if you focus on aesthetic and design, definitely XZ is for you, otherwhise HTC has its own interface Sense and i know many users like it

Trust me OP, switching to the HTC one would make you happier, the display alone is out of this world. The Xperia Z is a decent phone but I feel like it competes with last year`s phones like the Butterfly/DNA, LG optimus G and Galaxy S3. It doesn't not compare to the galaxy s 4, HTC one or LG optimus G pro in my opinion.
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barondebxl said:
The Xperia Z is a decent phone but I feel like it competes with last year`s phones like the Butterfly/DNA, LG optimus G and Galaxy S3. It doesn't not compare to the galaxy s 4, HTC one or LG optimus G pro in my opinion.
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:laugh::laugh::laugh:

I don't think so that the battery life is crap. Yes it can be improved a bit like the HTC one gets 6-7 hours of on screen time with a marginally smaller battery than the Z..here's my result
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Ame123 said:
I don't think so that the battery life is crap. Yes it can be improved a bit like the HTC one gets 6-7 hours of on screen time with a marginally smaller battery than the Z..here's my result
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sigh.
stop trolling.
we know it is impossible to get 5 hours of on screen time.
the average is about 3 hours.

samxool said:
sigh.
stop trolling.
we know it is impossible to get 5 hours of on screen time.
the average is about 3 hours.
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I am not trolling...i regularly get 4.5 to 5 hours of screen on time..if u dnt want to believe u can stop commenting on my posts..i have not posted this for guys like u
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samxool said:
sigh.
stop trolling.
we know it is impossible to get 5 hours of on screen time.
the average is about 3 hours.
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3 hours I got 4 hours and 55 min with average use
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samxool said:
sigh.
stop trolling.
we know it is impossible to get 5 hours of on screen time.
the average is about 3 hours.
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I've got over 5 hours many times, even on Cyanogenmod which has worse battery life than stock.

samxool said:
sigh.
stop trolling.
we know it is impossible to get 5 hours of on screen time.
the average is about 3 hours.
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Sigh, don't be a dink. Give it a rest.
OP, I've used both phones. Battery life is definitely better on the HTC, but it's nothing special. I would get an extra 15-20 minutes out of the HTC. As much as I love the design and build materials of the HTC One, I had some pretty severe gaps all over the phone. A buddy of mine has one as well and his isn't much better. The camera on the HTC is great in low light, but leaves a bit to be desired in good lighting conditions, which is where I take the majority of my photos.
I love the feel of the Xperia Z. As nice as the HTC One feels, I think the XZ is the better built phone. I worry about the glass back on the XZ but I think it's sturdy enough to withstand the rigors of day to day life. There isn't much the Z does a lot better than the One (except water resistance and arguably camera), but for some reason I like it a lot more than the HTC.
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If you can ignore the bad camera and build quality of HTC One why not?
And I can get 6 hours of screentime at %40 brightness.

Aresmar said:
If you can ignore the bad camera and build quality of HTC One why not?
And I can get 6 hours of screentime at %40 brightness.
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Build quality and the camera are the most hyped features of the one if one ignores them then whats the use of buying it?
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Ame123 said:
Build quality and the camera are the most hyped features of the one if one ignores them then whats the use of buying it?
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Sorry but camera fails at photos taken at broad daylight and panoramas vistas etc. 4mp doesnt cut it I have seen it with my own eyes. It may be good at low light but fails at outside photos.
And HTC One has very bad manufacturing. Just read how much problems the buyers have.
BTW I was a HTC phone user before. Not biased or anything. I was considering buying HTC One too. Now I am glad I didnt.

since I bought my Xperia z i have been considering this. I had a chance the other day to go for the HTC but I thought leave it.
I have had a play in store with the one.nothing initially impressed me about it, the screen was great but the Xperia screen is good too and bigger. I don't really like sense either. I couldn't gauge the sound quality due to the noisy environment but I guess that and the camera are the killer points. that's the only two things that would make me switch.
say what you want about the megapixels but I've saw some shots from the HTC one and they look great. the main thing is the quick shutter speed and brilliant low light performance.the Xperia z shutter speed is average at best and low light performance abysmal on the latest Rom.
the speakers on the Xperia z could be better and I always like good sounds quality on my devices.
but then you have to look at it from the other side too. build quality on the z is great, there's been many complaints about the HTC one build quality. when you have a phone for 2 years the build quality needs to be top notch. I guess most devices should be okay but when you hear the stories about gaps you do get slightly put off.
also the Xperia z is waterproof which could save the phones life some day and the stamina mode does help battery life quite a bit plus the rgb notification led is a lot better on the Sony.
as somEone said previously battery life is currently around the same for the top phones just look at the users posts about the phone you'll find out. design is personal preference.
you get used to each phone in the end tbh, they all have things that stand out for them. personally I can live with the sound quality but they need to improve shutter speed and low light performance I'm still on.434 and I might keep it that way.

Well, if I agree that HTC is a better phone than Z in term of hardware but not by much. I also had a dilemma when choosing Z or One but ended up choosing Z as I think it has better design and much cheaper in my country
Screen: Screen is definitely better on One but Z's screen with BE2 when viewing movie is better in my opinion. I really don't care about viewing angle and it isn't as bad on Z as I thought before (maybe my unit got good viewing angle).
Speaker: Yeah, nowhere near boomsound on HTC but it is loud enough. I can use it to view Youtube with my friend with audible audio.
Speed: Sense 5 is fast as hell, I would say that it is the fastest phone on the market right now, it is even faster than Galaxy S4. But most regular users don't really need it, XZ is plenty fast enough
Feel: I don't like the feel of One, although it is thicker than Z on white paper, the edge thickness is only half of Z's which make holding feel weird. Moreover, the buttons on One is the worst I have ever used. The power button is hard to press as it is so flat and place on top of such a big phone like One, volume rockers are also flat as well.
Battery life: I guess it is slightly better than Z. Maybe you will got 1 hour more of screen time.

my workmate has just got the HTC one and is having major problems with it, honestly really glad i've got the xz.

you don't like your Z1, here is the solution

I have had my Xperia Z1 for a week now and I love everything about it, the camera quality is the only thing that annoys me, but hopefully its a software issue and will be fixed soon, apart from that, the phone is stunning and if the time went back I will go with it again.
This is purely my personal opinion and I can see that there are people in this form hating the phone and wish to swap it with another one if they could. Thats why I made this post because the form is full of topics about how someone hate something about this phone and there are not many "useful" informations for the current or future buyers. anyway, what this article is about is that there is no phone is the best ever, Phone A might have better screen, phone B have better camera, Phone C has better battery ... etc. Every phone has its advantages and disadvantages, you would understand if you go and visit forms of other phones, I just went to the note3 form and guess what??? people there complaining about poor performance
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461881
poor camera
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2462053
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2459647
poor speaker
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461599
and the phone has just been launched. iPhone 5s users also complaining about different issues so there is no perfect phone that does everything well
I am not bashing no-one and I am not happy because note3 or iPhone 5s users are having problems with their new phones. But if you go to any form you will see unhappy users. It is YOUR responsibility to choose a phone depending on your needs, play with it and read reviews before spending your hard earned money. Sony, Samsung and apple try to show you that their phone is the best and after you buy it, they don't care anymore.

Fair enough , but I have the Note 3 ( octa version ) and have NONE of those problems.. the device almost feels perfect...right off the bat ..
I absolutely love my Z1 but it feels like Sony should have waited a little longer before releasing it.
IMHO these are the device's only issues.
1. The yellow tint from the screen. ( which strangely,the more I use the easier I find it on the eyes )
2.The Sudden black screen hang ( had it only once so far, but makes me worry about how reliable the device is, will my alarm ring ? )
3. Terrible cam performance On auto mode. (The cam only sucks on auto mode,especially in low light......but if you use manual mode it's quite lovely )
Hopefully these things can be fixed via an update .Or people will start returning their phones thinking they've bought defective pieces.Heck, I'm kind of wondering too.
If Sony can fix these things and fix it quick it could be the closest to a perfect phone. ( at least for me )

No yellow tint on my screen. Have not had the black screen hang but agree with the quality of photos. O2 has been rolling out the updates from Sony quickly enough, so the first two issues may have been resolved already?

hoezay said:
Fair enough , but I have the Note 3 ( octa version ) and have NONE of those problems.. the device almost feels perfect...right off the bat ..
I absolutely love my Z1 but it feels like Sony should have waited a little longer before releasing it.
IMHO these are the device's only issues.
1. The yellow tint from the screen. ( which strangely,the more I use the easier I find it on the eyes )
2.The Sudden black screen hang ( had it only once so far, but makes me worry about how reliable the device is, will my alarm ring ? )
3. Terrible cam performance On auto mode. (The cam only sucks on auto mode,especially in low light......but if you use manual mode it's quite lovely )
Hopefully these things can be fixed via an update .Or people will start returning their phones thinking they've bought defective pieces.Heck, I'm kind of wondering too.
If Sony can fix these things and fix it quick it could be the closest to a perfect phone. ( at least for me )
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You have a exynos version, same as me in gs4, major problem is touchwiz and cm until now for my device dont work fully.
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hoezay said:
Fair enough , but I have the Note 3 ( octa version ) and have NONE of those problems.. the device almost feels perfect...right off the bat ..
I absolutely love my Z1 but it feels like Sony should have waited a little longer before releasing it.
IMHO these are the device's only issues.
1. The yellow tint from the screen. ( which strangely,the more I use the easier I find it on the eyes )
2.The Sudden black screen hang ( had it only once so far, but makes me worry about how reliable the device is, will my alarm ring ? )
3. Terrible cam performance On auto mode. (The cam only sucks on auto mode,especially in low light......but if you use manual mode it's quite lovely )
Hopefully these things can be fixed via an update .Or people will start returning their phones thinking they've bought defective pieces.Heck, I'm kind of wondering too.
If Sony can fix these things and fix it quick it could be the closest to a perfect phone. ( at least for me )
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I don't have the first two issues just the camera. But again the camera isn't the worse, when I compare mine to my wife's SGS4, mine open alot faster, here's take 5-10 seconds to open. The colors are equally good. The only thing is the noise in my pictures.
ptoner said:
No yellow tint on my screen. Have not had the black screen hang but agree with the quality of photos. O2 has been rolling out the updates from Sony quickly enough, so the first two issues may have been resolved already?
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same as her
matheus_sc said:
You have a exynos version, same as me in gs4, major problem is touchwiz and cm until now for my device dont work fully.
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same as my wife's. I expected alot more from the SGS4 when I got it, but now I find my Z1 way better. Z1 performance alot better because of more powerful chip and lighter skin, Z1 screen Alot better, battery slightly better ... etc. Actually this is why I didn't get the note 3, I was considering both but after my issues with SGS4, I went with the Z1

No yellow tint on mine either, had a note 2 n was desperately waiting for note 3 thought give it a try on Z1 and I love it plus I am impressed with the performance its amazingly quick and so is the screen resolution and is water proof and a much better design, well done sony, not getting the note 3 now, cheers to everyone, enjoy ur Z1 guys
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Of course there is no yellow tint, or multiple different display manufacturers, or any other crap or conspiracy mentioned, people are full of crap. I have Z1 and the phone is absolutely spectacular. Huge inprovement over Z.

naga.nino said:
Of course there is no yellow tint, or multiple different display manufacturers, or any other crap or conspiracy mentioned, people are full of crap. I have Z1 and the phone is absolutely spectacular. Huge inprovement over Z.
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Please don't generalize. I love this phone too but mine does have the yellow tint. Fanboy behavior helps no one.

Those Note3 threads are hilarious. Either they're trolls or received defective devices or something, because I know what the Note3 is as I've had it for 5 days now and counting. They are complaining about performance in a device that currently tops the charts. Speakers? Well it's a bloody phone speaker, not a home surround system, it does as much or as little as other phone speakers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP5Ov4zcJE0). There are even threads complaining it's plastic. Really? Did you buy the phone, open the box and only then discovered it was made in plastic? There are a lot of jokers in these forums.
The Z1 seems to be a great device from what I've read and seen. Three of my friends will buy it as soon as it hits the shelves here, so I can't wait to get a hands on it and see what they think.

true true , I have a Note 3 and it is quite awesome , very little to crib about.

MohJee said:
Those Note3 threads are hilarious. Either they're trolls or received defective devices or something, because I know what the Note3 is as I've had it for 5 days now and counting. They are complaining about performance in a device that currently tops the charts. Speakers? Well it's a bloody phone speaker, not a home surround system, it does as much or as little as other phone speakers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP5Ov4zcJE0). There are even threads complaining it's plastic. Really? Did you buy the phone, open the box and only then discovered it was made in plastic? There are a lot of jokers in these forums.
The Z1 seems to be a great device from what I've read and seen. Three of my friends will buy it as soon as it hits the shelves here, so I can't wait to get a hands on it and see what they think.
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My point exactly, no phone is perfect (not even the Z1, note 3 or even iPhone 5s), every phone has its advantages and disadvantages. Different phones suits different people. Everyone should look carefully for what he/she like/prefer/want before spending their hard earned money.

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My point exactly, no phone is perfect (not even the Z1, note 3 or even iPhone 5s), every phone has its advantages and disadvantages. Different phones suits different people. Everyone should look carefully for what he/she like/prefer/want before spending their hard earned money.
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+1 for this one. I chose my Z1 because I would love to take underwater pictures. And I love the manly feel of it, unlike the curvy s4 or note 3, no offense. And the bezels actually help me because I have big hands, it's easier to type and easier to scroll and hold. Unlik the s4 again which I accidentally touch the back key from time to time..

For the ones complaining about the speaker: go to settings, sound, sound effects, settings and tick xLOUD. Makes my speaker more than loud enough
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If you don't like your Z1, Sell it to me, I will buy it at half the price

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ahomad said:
I have had my Xperia Z1 for a week now and I love everything about it, the camera quality is the only thing that annoys me, but hopefully its a software issue and will be fixed soon, apart from that, the phone is stunning and if the time went back I will go with it again.
This is purely my personal opinion and I can see that there are people in this form hating the phone and wish to swap it with another one if they could. Thats why I made this post because the form is full of topics about how someone hate something about this phone and there are not many "useful" informations for the current or future buyers. anyway, what this article is about is that there is no phone is the best ever, Phone A might have better screen, phone B have better camera, Phone C has better battery ... etc. Every phone has its advantages and disadvantages, you would understand if you go and visit forms of other phones, I just went to the note3 form and guess what??? people there complaining about poor performance
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461881
poor camera
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2462053
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2459647
poor speaker
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461599
and the phone has just been launched. iPhone 5s users also complaining about different issues so there is no perfect phone that does everything well
I am not bashing no-one and I am not happy because note3 or iPhone 5s users are having problems with their new phones. But if you go to any form you will see unhappy users. It is YOUR responsibility to choose a phone depending on your needs, play with it and read reviews before spending your hard earned money. Sony, Samsung and apple try to show you that their phone is the best and after you buy it, they don't care anymore.
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Ok now put a and b and c together and u got lg g2 muahahaha, i sold my z1 after almost three months and got this baby from lg and i never looked back... Much better in every aspect and let me tell all those saying that in manual modes z1 camera is better: I honestly don't care. I am an average user and i wouldn't know how to use the manual modes, and if i did i would probably own a big dslr camera for pictures. Lg ui may appear childish and overcolourful but hey it can be themed cause their launcher supporst themes and worst case u get another launcher from playstore. Knock-on to unlock rocks and u dont abuse ur power button and yes the buttons in the back are really convenient after a couple of hours of playing with the thing. Phone is smooth and overall user experience is way better than what i had with z1. Which leaves the z1 with only one thing and that is build quality (Which is not bad at all on the g2, it just doesnt have all those fancy materials), which again i'd trade for the pocketability of the g2 any day of the week. Did i mention the awesome battery life i get out of it?

I don't liked the z1 at all. When I was thinking about buy it, I stayed for days between z1 and note 3. Now I almost can't sleep thinking that I must had bought the note 3. What do you think about I switch z1 to note 3?
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Ok now put a and b and c together and u got lg g2 muahahaha, i sold my z1 after almost three months and got this baby from lg and i never looked back... Much better in every aspect and let me tell all those saying that in manual modes z1 camera is better: I honestly don't care. I am an average user and i wouldn't know how to use the manual modes, and if i did i would probably own a big dslr camera for pictures. Lg ui may appear childish and overcolourful but hey it can be themed cause their launcher supporst themes and worst case u get another launcher from playstore. Knock-on to unlock rocks and u dont abuse ur power button and yes the buttons in the back are really convenient after a couple of hours of playing with the thing. Phone is smooth and overall user experience is way better than what i had with z1. Which leaves the z1 with only one thing and that is build quality (Which is not bad at all on the g2, it just doesnt have all those fancy materials), which again i'd trade for the pocketability of the g2 any day of the week. Did i mention the awesome battery life i get out of it?
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Funny, with me is the other way around, after using the lg g2 for a week(loaned) all i can say is that im happy to have the Z1
The lg is pretty awesome and the Screen is definetly better than the Z1(not rolfstomp better)
But the Z1 is just better in every other way for me, best droid I've ever used and I've tried a lot of them
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lecomiquelin said:
I don't liked the z1 at all. When I was thinking about buy it, I stayed for days between z1 and note 3. Now I almost can't sleep thinking that I must had bought the note 3. What do you think about I switch z1 to note 3?
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Not sure I go through phones like crazy I've had the s3, g2, note 2, s4 and I will say this that if you want good battery life on a Samsung you have to turn off their 40 features that drain the battery and you never use those stupid features.
As for the g2 I had issues with the phone stuttering but the battery life was killer but I think I finally found my phone and that is the z1
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jimakos29 said:
Ok now put a and b and c together and u got lg g2 muahahaha, i sold my z1 after almost three months and got this baby from lg and i never looked back... Much better in every aspect and let me tell all those saying that in manual modes z1 camera is better: I honestly don't care. I am an average user and i wouldn't know how to use the manual modes, and if i did i would probably own a big dslr camera for pictures. Lg ui may appear childish and overcolourful but hey it can be themed cause their launcher supporst themes and worst case u get another launcher from playstore. Knock-on to unlock rocks and u dont abuse ur power button and yes the buttons in the back are really convenient after a couple of hours of playing with the thing. Phone is smooth and overall user experience is way better than what i had with z1. Which leaves the z1 with only one thing and that is build quality (Which is not bad at all on the g2, it just doesnt have all those fancy materials), which again i'd trade for the pocketability of the g2 any day of the week. Did i mention the awesome battery life i get out of it?
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I haven't had G2 so I can't compare it with the Z1. But I have SGS4 for over 6 months, I had nexus 5 for 2 days, I had the HTC ONE for over a month and I had iPhone 5s for over a month (these are just last year flagships). What I learnt is that you can't say phone A is better than phone B especially when comparing flagships, because it really depends on what are you looking for in the phone. if you want to get best performance, you will get N5 iphone 5s or Z1, if you want camera, you will get Z1 or iphone 5s, if you want feature, you will get SGS4, if you want quality you will get Z1 or HTC ONE (and probably iphone 5s) and so on.
from all of these phone, I will get the Z1 any day (if i had to choose one). But that does not mean the Z1 is the best phone in every aspect, it just provide what I want from my phone. However, I think the Z1 is either 1st or 2nd in almost all aspects. 1st in quality, useful features(not useless like samsung and doesn't lake feature like the iphone), battery, camera, performance (same level as nexus 5 and iphone 5s) and 2nd in screen(only HTC is better), speaker (only HTC is better)