Having used windows, android, and iphone, i had settled for the iphone, and had convimced myself, i would never use another platform again. When the play came out, it was the gaming that inticed me, and needed a second phone, as i mostly work nights, so need 2 phones to help me pull through the nights. So today, decided to set both phones side by side play and iphone 4, both on vodafone uk, and surprise surprise, the play, has got about 3 bars, and the phone has the usuall, no service. Yet somehow, apple had managed to convince myself and probably many others it was fine to have a phone with half the signal strenght of other phones. Never again, will i be giving apple any of my hard earned quids, its android all the way now.
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Having used windows, android, and iphone, i had settled for the iphone, and had convimced myself, i would never use another platform again. When the play came out, it was the gaming that inticed me, and needed a second phone, as i mostly work nights, so need 2 phones to help me pull through the nights. So today, decided to set both phones side by side play and iphone 4, both on vodafone uk, and surprise surprise, the play, has got about 3 bars, and the phone has the usuall, no service. Yet somehow, apple had managed to convince myself and probably many others it was fine to have a phone with half the signal strenght of other phones. Never again, will i be giving apple any of my hard earned quids, its android all the way now.
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Apple is known for their horrible Wireless and Camera Hardware, so I'm not surprised.
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So thanks to a fat tax check clearing my bank, I can afford sinking what I consider far too much money for a phone--specifically the N1(AT&T.)
But I can't sit back and see exactly how badly the next 3 versions of android phone AT&T will release. Service wise, it's a good company, but in terms of products offered, they're in too deep with contractual obligations to get a smartphone that does what most people want. Updates are virtually non-existent unless it's an iPhone. So the more I think of it, the more likely I'll be happier doing the N1 unsub'd.
I've read a few reports on battery life and it seems that it's about the same as the iphone in terms of a day's lifespan or less. (the wife has one--traitor. ) Radio, the mileage varies based on location--normal. Rooting kills the warranty, but not all that needed--yet. None of this stuff is sending up any red flags to not pour more money into the Chocolate Factory and their uber-phone.
Anyone pick up the desktop/nightstand cradle and what do you think of it? Heard there's a car version as well that snaps into maps when the N1 is docked. Is that available, think it's worth it, where do you get it?
Edit: Oh, yeah--engraved case for free (but forfeit money back refund) What to put on that - "Give me Android AND give me FREEDOM!" lol Prob just leave that well enough alone though. (Not all that narcissistic)
Talk me in or out of it before I click the confirm button. Oh, and what's the eta for std shipping? (thinking about actually doing next day if the option is there.)
Thanks
A recommendation? Simples... do it.
Google ships all Nexus Ones overnight for free.
This is hands down the best phone I have ever owned. What's not to love about it?
Apps you want, features you want, and if it's missing anything you do want, root it and make it do whatever you want to. Google Navigation is awesome as well. It has completely replaced TomTom for me.
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So thanks to a fat tax check clearing my bank, I can afford sinking what I consider far too much money for a phone--specifically the N1(AT&T.)
But I can't sit back and see exactly how badly the next 3 versions of android phone AT&T will release. Service wise, it's a good company, but in terms of products offered, they're in too deep with contractual obligations to get a smartphone that does what most people want. Updates are virtually non-existent unless it's an iPhone. So the more I think of it, the more likely I'll be happier doing the N1 unsub'd.
I've read a few reports on battery life and it seems that it's about the same as the iphone in terms of a day's lifespan or less. (the wife has one--traitor. ) Radio, the mileage varies based on location--normal. Rooting kills the warranty, but not all that needed--yet. None of this stuff is sending up any red flags to not pour more money into the Chocolate Factory and their uber-phone.
Anyone pick up the desktop/nightstand cradle and what do you think of it? Heard there's a car version as well that snaps into maps when the N1 is docked. Is that available, think it's worth it, where do you get it?
Edit: Oh, yeah--engraved case for free (but forfeit money back refund) What to put on that - "Give me Android AND give me FREEDOM!" lol Prob just leave that well enough alone though. (Not all that narcissistic)
Talk me in or out of it before I click the confirm button. Oh, and what's the eta for std shipping? (thinking about actually doing next day if the option is there.)
Thanks
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Battery life is on par with every other smart phone I've owned (3x HTC windows mobile handsets).
I rooted my T-Mo N1, but haven't rooted my AT&T N1. The benefits really didn't warrant voiding the warranty for me (especially as you can't get insurance on the device on AT&T - I had insurance with T-Mo). I've used PDANet with Windows mobile and had no problem purchasing the Android version (although there is a free version that doesn't do HTTPS) for use to tether when I need it (infrequently when traveling).
I do have the desktop dock and like it quite a bit. It's nice not to have to plug/unplug the USB constantly - the drop in is quite convenient. It works well as a nightstand also.
The car dock is not out yet from Google.
I am happier with this phone than any other phone I've owned. Not being stuck behind a manufacturer modification (MotoBLUR or Sense) will also mean that updates shouldn't get stalled the way they do for other devices.
Go for it...you will be in heaven!
Ok, so patience ran out. I clicked the button. For S&G's I picked up the cradle for the $45 extra after all I already use my current phone as an alarm clock so might as well.
As for the car dock, it's supposedly going to be released soon, but not currently out yet. Future purchase I suppose.
Anyone want to but a pair of Epix's? (my old one and the wifes and both just had the crappy touch screen replaced over the last couple of days.)
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So thanks to a fat tax check clearing my bank, I can afford sinking what I consider far too much money for a phone--specifically the N1(AT&T.)
But I can't sit back and see exactly how badly the next 3 versions of android phone AT&T will release. Service wise, it's a good company, but in terms of products offered, they're in too deep with contractual obligations to get a smartphone that does what most people want. Updates are virtually non-existent unless it's an iPhone. So the more I think of it, the more likely I'll be happier doing the N1 unsub'd.
I've read a few reports on battery life and it seems that it's about the same as the iphone in terms of a day's lifespan or less. (the wife has one--traitor. ) Radio, the mileage varies based on location--normal. Rooting kills the warranty, but not all that needed--yet. None of this stuff is sending up any red flags to not pour more money into the Chocolate Factory and their uber-phone.
Anyone pick up the desktop/nightstand cradle and what do you think of it? Heard there's a car version as well that snaps into maps when the N1 is docked. Is that available, think it's worth it, where do you get it?
Edit: Oh, yeah--engraved case for free (but forfeit money back refund) What to put on that - "Give me Android AND give me FREEDOM!" lol Prob just leave that well enough alone though. (Not all that narcissistic)
Talk me in or out of it before I click the confirm button. Oh, and what's the eta for std shipping? (thinking about actually doing next day if the option is there.)
Thanks
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What phone are you using now?
Sell it and that way the $529 is much easier to think about.
I sold my G1 so my N1 was effectively only $400
Oh, of course the sale of my old POS Epix will go towards the cost of one of these. But the real question is, do I offload now or wait a couple weeks (or months at this rate) for the official WM6.5 update? Wife's is stock standard while I already have Trashcan's 6.5 installed and both will most likely hit fleabay.
I hope you have better luck than me.I had my Nexus One for 5 days,I sold it after that.....worse signal ever...it was driving crazy fluctuating all the time,losing signal.I am sure the AT&T version is better.
I called Google customer service and they told me that the N1 is searching for the strongest signal whereas the G1 is always searching for 3G,whatever....I just wanted a good phone,that's all.I was even losing signal in my bedroom,my bed is by the windows and the freaking phone was going from EDGE to 3G to no signal all the time.
I have seen a lot of comments and videos of people with the same issues.I am sure you will enjoy it the phone,it is beautiful and fast,but I did not have much luck.
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Oh, of course the sale of my old POS Epix will go towards the cost of one of these. But the real question is, do I offload now or wait a couple weeks (or months at this rate) for the official WM6.5 update? Wife's is stock standard while I already have Trashcan's 6.5 installed and both will most likely hit fleabay.
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No one wants a WM phone, and even fewer people will in a few months from now. It's a completely dead OS, with Microsoft already openly committed Windows Phone 7. You better sell as fast as you possibly can.
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I hope you have better luck than me.I had my Nexus One for 5 days,I sold it after that.....worse signal ever...it was driving crazy fluctuating all the time,losing signal.I am sure the AT&T version is better.
I called Google customer service and they told me that the N1 is searching for the strongest signal whereas the G1 is always searching for 3G,whatever....I just wanted a good phone,that's all.I was even losing signal in my bedroom,my bed is by the windows and the freaking phone was going from EDGE to 3G to no signal all the time.
I have seen a lot of comments and videos of people with the same issues.I am sure you will enjoy it the phone,it is beautiful and fast,but I did not have much luck.
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You live in a low T-Mobile coverage area. You were probably also wrapping your hand around the bottom of the phone, which would kill the signal completely in such a low coverage area.
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No one wants a WM phone, and even fewer people will in a few months from now. It's a completely dead OS, with Microsoft already openly committed Windows Phone 7. You better sell as fast as you possibly can.
You live in a low T-Mobile coverage area. You were probably also wrapping your hand around the bottom of the phone, which would kill the signal completely in such a low coverage area.
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I'm dropping WinMo for android.
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You live in a low T-Mobile coverage area. You were probably also wrapping your hand around the bottom of the phone, which would kill the signal completely in such a low coverage area.
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Could be,but this is the first time I come across this regardless of the OS or brand,no signal in my bedroom and the signal fluctuation.
The way I grab and hold the phone....well like anybody does,it is a phone there is no much to explain on how to hold it,to me this phone has been a little bit of a Google's failure,a phone is a phone...communication first,then the cool features.
After the Nexus One I bought a HTC HD2,like you said WinMo is dead I totally agree,I had it for 2 days,there are certain things that Microsoft does not do very well yet,after so many years with their freaking windows mobile it is incredible,plus sometimes you (still) kinda need the stylus and the OS still has those windows 98 looking menus and windows.
So I returned it and got the new mytouch,which is not the best,but after my last experience I think I am going to wait a year and a half until I get a cool device,specially since anything we buy these days is a battery killer.
Ok just seen the new iphone4 TV advert, woman in hospital having a scan of her new baby and husband is dressed like he is over in Iraq, they are using the new facetime thing, all very nice he is able to see the scan himself as she turns the camera around.........and its then I start thinking “what a load of crap” the advert carries on and at the end it says you need a wifi connection.
1st problem, she is in a hospital, every hospital I have been in the UK tell you to turn your mobile off as it can effect the machines.
2nd wifi? I understand how he can have it but how does she get it, not only would she not be able to use the phone I really cannot see the hospital giving her the wep key and letting her jump on to their secure line lol
So glad I never got an iphone....even their adverts piss me off lol
You might want to note that it advertises as "new" what's been in use in every goddamn smartphone with a front camera and WiFi since 2007. Even my old nokia 5800 could do that.
MANY phones could do this "facetime" via 3G network in denmark since.. since 05 i think? .
Yeah, but i'm focusing on the stuff in the advert.
3G Video call overseas isn't compatible with all networks.
But yeah, video calls started late 2003, i remember my legendary Sony Erricson Z1010
Yeah, the publicity about FaceTime does annoy me - it's not only a technology that's been around for years in a form which doesn't require WiFi or a particular model phone, but it's also a technology which has been singularly unpopular. I've never made or received a video call in the years I've had a compatible phone, and I've never seen or heard of anyone ever using their phone for that either. But suddenly it's the next big thing?
This isn't very related to the Galaxy S though.. isn't it one of the few Android phones that support 3G video calls?
utter crap, dont get me wrong I think the 1st iphone was great, got the ball rolling....but thats where it ends, every new rehash of a model they then brought out was still behind most phones out at the time and still are.....thats why this is sooooo funny even though I go for sgs myself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg
The Best thing that could happen is if a Dev build and App that supported thier FaceTime protocol and made it for android - over 3G network
The WIFI restriction should be easy to bypass with jailbreak. Don't be surprise to see facetime on Android, ipod, ipad, notebook, and desktop soon. The protocol has some very real advantages over what we have in the old phones.
I don't get upset to see innovations by any company whether I like that company or not. Competition is good and consumers benefit from it.
Just to offer a different perspective, and not to start a flame war.
So I know you have all heard the Evo vs Epic story, but i'm in a bit deeper than most. I purchased the phone outright, but to try and save a few pennies on it I had sold back my Pre and Hero to Sprint. That being said I have no backup phone so I have 30 days to decide what to go with. According to the coverage maps my place of work and house both say I am in good coverage, however that is not the case. When I first got the phone I was getting zero reception in my room and spotty coverage throughout the rest of my house. At work my phone is constantly beeping in my pocket telling me that I am dropping my signal. This is the part where I am confused..over the past week and half of using the phone it almost seems that the phone seems to be holding a better signal? Over the past 3 or 4 days my signal within my house a bit stronger and when I first enter my room to go to bed at night I have a signal but it eventually drops out completely. Am I delirious or is this possible? Mind you I had no issues with my Hero, Touch Pro, or Pre in these same places. I work along side a few people who have Evo's and I have been running tests and they are pulling a much stronger signal than me. Basically I have till the end of the month to make a decision..first and foremost I need a phone that works, but I waited for the Epic because, in my opinion, it is superior to the Evo. Is it possible that with future updates that signal/reception could improve? Any other comments/opinions? Thanks.
As an old Evo owner I can tell you that the Evo has received about 3 or 4 radio updates since release. Its initial service was about the same as the Epic's currently.
As for updates (radio aside), they should come, most likely with Froyo as why rush to fix a bunch of stuff in 2.1 when 2.2 should literally be a few weeks off.
The development community is far less potent with the epic for obvious reasons. We absolutely need a custom recovery for rom development and until that happens you won't see anything as we just don't have an easy way to flash to the device. Unfortunately that is beyond my capabilities right now so hopefully with Verizon launching their version we will get some love as the two devices are more similar than the GSM counterparts.
On the one side the Epic needs custom roms far less than the evo. It however needs some updates from Samsung and Sprint. Double edge sword I guess.
I've been using my Focus for a few weeks now and absolutely love it. WP7 obviously needs more features and settings, but MS will be cranking those out soon.
A friend of mine really liked the phone and bought the LG Quantum WP7 and she is very happy with it. When she upgraded her phone, everyone at work was telling her to get an iPhone. Talk about peer pressure! I was surprised that she said no way and wanted a WP7 phone instead after seeing mine.
I've even got some compliments from iPhone users, mainly on how quick and smooth the OS feels.
Time will tell but WP7 is definitely here to stay.
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I've been using my Focus for a few weeks now and absolutely love it. WP7 obviously needs more features and settings, but MS will be cranking those out soon.
A friend of mine really liked the phone and bought the LG Quantum WP7 and she is very happy with it. When she upgraded her phone, everyone at work was telling her to get an iPhone. Talk about peer pressure! I was surprised that she said no way and wanted a WP7 phone instead after seeing mine.
I've even got some compliments from iPhone users, mainly on how quick and smooth the OS feels.
Time will tell but WP7 is definitely here to stay.
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Same happened to me, even Iphone 3GS users felt very tempted to switch to WP7... I have a Focus.
I traded for my Focus (iP4). I have a friend that says they are going to WP7 when their upgrade comes around.
My boyfriend got a Focus after I got mine. He said because, "You look like you really are in love with that phone" (with an eye roll)
But I don't know how much it counts because I let him use my get-one-free from AT&T, so he didn't pay anything for it.
I was following WP7 for 4 months before it came out. I got the Focus the first day and the O/S has exceeded my expectations. Second day I had one sold to my lady friend after she saw mine. A friend of my friend saw hers and bought one the 3rd day. My wife has never had a smart phone and use to be intimated but now in 1 month will buy a Focus after using mine. I believe we are some of the best salesman and women and showing others the smooth O/S sells units. If Microsoft was smart they would give owners incentives to show the phone and compensate people in some manner. I exactly felt the sales initially would be slow but the more peeps that get them in their hands the more friends that will be exposed and that will drive a faster and sustained market share
Also, I have found that turning on Birdy Bounce and passing the phone around does wonders. My whole family went retarded over it this weekend. Dad had problems accidentally activating the capacitive Bing button, though.
We are passing them around to Android and iPhone users at work for test runs. After they use the phone for the day, we're having trouble getting them back. We've been using the Focus and the HTC Surround in that testing. The Focus is far and away the Favorite. If Verizon comes out with the HTC Trophy like they are targeting in January, we may start rolling WP7 out to users who want it on Verizon. I can't roll out the Focus until we get a few SD cards that are certified to work. 8GB isn't enough for folks who have music. 16GB in the Trophy should be enough to start. it would be great if Samsung came out with a CDMA focus with at least 16GB on the phone or a certified SD card preinstalled.
On the SD card thing, I have used Sandisk 16gb Class 2 and 4 and they both work somewhat. After two weeks or so i started having some minor issues. Nothing like the 32GB gave me but I would see perhaps one or two soft resets a day. . that is why I can't recommend the Focus yet for my users. Focus ran great with only the base 8gb in the unit. No resets at all. But I need the extra space for my music library.
Blizzard
So after a day at work (8-4:30) I drove my friends (carpooling) to Severance Hall in Cleveland, OH. We set out at 5pm and arrived at the Hall at 9pm due to the snow.
At the end of the concert (10pm), we drove home and arrived home at 1am in the morning - it made for a very long day and a very long drive that normally takes about 40 minutes.
The crux of the story is this, in the carpool, four of us have an iPhone 4 and I have the Focus. Everyone's iPhone died on the way to the concert (no battery). Therefore, since the journey home was taking so long, everybody in the carpool borrowed my phone to call home and talk to their families. Everyone was extremely impressed at the responsiveness of the Focus and Windows Phone 7 - they absolutely loved it. They commented on the fluidity of the OS, the ease of use (I didn't tell anyone how to use the Phone - they figured it out themselves).
They asked hundreds of questions, used the internet, etc. etc. They were thoroughly impressed with the Phone.
The one thing that everyone agreed on and kept commenting on was ease of use - and I have to agree, it's a very easy to use OS.
Well done Microsoft.
M
ps. My phone died at 1:10am, it was a day of light to medium use (I know that's highly subjective....)
Two friends were due for upgrade along with me (I was due for 4 months but waiting for WP7) and after using my Focus they instantly got one each (surrounds - it was free!).
Both were upgrading from dumbPhones.
all my friends are poor and have no phone upgrades
but they all like the samsung focus
my phone is constantly being borrowed when im somewhere
My wife switch from iphone, and is very happy so far. Her iPhone is not going back to her purse any more.
She enjoy the integration of the social network, the keyboard, the great image and colors of the Samsung Focus
My in-laws liked my focus so much, they bought a pair of of the LG's, cause they wanted keyboards. Btw, they are big mac fans.
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...Second day I had one sold to my lady friend after she saw mine. A friend of my friend saw hers and bought one the 3rd day. My wife has never had a smart phone and use to be intimated but now in 1 month will buy a Focus after using mine...
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Are you not afraid your wife will either read this post or ask your friend who your (boom chicka bow wow) "Lady Friend" is and you will be in big trouble?
Yes, I keep catching my wife looking over my shoulder. She's on the iPhone 4. I have to admit, the iPhone 4 is a VERY nice phone (after Jailbreaking), but I didn't want to fall into the Apple Trap . I've handed the Focus to her to use, and she's quite impressed also. It's smooth and easy to run. Screen is very impressive.
My girl is now tyring to Bogart my focus. She wants me to use her iPhone 3GS. Now I just traded my iP4 to get the Focus last week. No way is she getting my Focus. Gonna find her a deal online somewhere, so we'll have one more people on the WP7 team!
IMHO anyone who uses WP7 for atleast 10 mins will love it. I just showed it to one of my friends who was lecturing me for not buying an iP4 instead and even he loved it.
I think word of mouth is really the best way to promote WP7. So plz guys/gals show your WP7 device to as many people possible.
Whole family.
My mother bought one on my recommendation (Android to comples for her, iPhone too fragile for her). Loves the integrated voice command.
Father saw it at Thanksgiving and wondered why she got it. Later in the day he was wondering what the Knicks score was, brother stepped up to my mother's phone and said, "Knicks score" and up it came. Bowled my father away, and he bought one.
Brother and sister-in-law loved it too. They are getting one. My son, well, he is a Sprint fan and is waiting for them to carry it. As for me, couldn't wait. Got the Focus - love it.
Since then, showed a friend, and he and his wife got the LG - he loves the keyboard. She's a Mac person, but seems to be warming up to it.
So what is the best choice to keep stock Android on ATT? I am happy with Nexus 1 now, but what about the future. Seems like every Nexus developer is leaning toward T Mobile.
P. C.
They will consider AT&T when AT&T stops butchering Android by removing stock features.
There is actually no foreseeable stock Android phones for AT&T.
The best chance is sometime Q1 2011, the Nexus S could possibly be released with AT&T 3G bands.
The only thing AT&T is interested in doing with Android currently is figuring out ways you can pay them more money in the Android Market.
The Nexus One and the Bell Desire Z (NAM) are the two top Android phones for AT&T. The Desire Z runs Sense though.
ATT
So I guess we use the N1 forever.
P.C.
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So I guess we use the N1 forever.
P.C.
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I'm contemplating switching providers. I have no issues with their service and everyone I know uses them so it's a hard choice for me, but this lack of any good android options is really starting to piss me off. Every time you hear about an android device coming to att it's always some low end crap. The captivate is their best current option, but it feels cheap and it's already showing the tell tale signs of samsung and att leaving it in the dust.
I want to switch providers. I was blinded by the iPhones awesome reception and when i first got the nexus one half a year back, i thought it had worst reception compared to iphone (3gs, i also had edge 3 years back). Then apple said "Oh ya, we got the equation" wrong and now their reception is worse! I hate AT&T. I can have full bars sometimes but when that only leaves me hardly any connection, what good is it.
I've used my friends Incredible on Verizon and i'm very happy with its load speed. Right now, I'm gonna hold on to my Nexus one on AT&T. I want to switch my family over to another company but not sure where yet, waiting on a cool phone. Nexus S didn't stand out too much, with a lack of sd slot, i wouldn't have enough memory!
Plus, I want to see more tablet next year with the Nvidia chip. That'll probably be my next purchase!
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I'm contemplating switching providers. I have no issues with their service and everyone I know uses them so it's a hard choice for me, but this lack of any good android options is really starting to piss me off. Every time you hear about an android device coming to att it's always some low end crap. The captivate is their best current option, but it feels cheap and it's already showing the tell tale signs of samsung and att leaving it in the dust.
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This is my dilemma as well. I get fantastic coverage and VERY fast data(3.50 down, 1.28 up) in my city(as well as everywhere I go), but I am also tired of not getting any decent Android devices. I've been with ATT for ten years and I'm about ready to walk away...even from grandfathered unlimited data. The only thing keeping me here is the unlimited data and the wifi hotspot/tethering abilities of the N1. If my N1 were to crap out, I'm gone to Verizon. I can get fast data, great coverage AND a nice choice in Android devices from them.