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Root Access, Can't Uninstall Bloatware

So I'm rooted on my Evo and as far as I can tell I've flashed the stock rom that should allow me to uninstall the bloatware, however, I dont see any uninstall options for that crap like facebook.
Anything I'm doing wrong?
I followed this guide to root and flash. I've tested my root using the "Terminal Emulator" and typing "su" and it returned a "#"
Thanks XDA, I love most of you

You know you need to uninstall from your computer using adb
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I've installed Android Debug Bridge but I was under the impression that rooting my phone would allow me to do things on my phone, such as install and uninstall what I want.
Could you explain the process more or send me to a link that does?

If you want to do it in android you either need console program or a file manager. Root explorer us the best one and easiest. Looks just like a typical explorer, tap the rw/ro button for read only or read write and delete away.
You have to have completed the second part of unlocking nand. Otherwise your only option is using a computer and adb in recovery.

They dont make this easy do they? I would have figured Android to be very open for things like this, I'm starting to feel like I have to "jailbreak" again, only this time it's to remove crap.
This seems like so much work to get rid of facebook and sprint tv.

It took me 10 minutes total including the file downloads. Its a one time thing and there is a learning curve with any new platform.

Aridon, is there a free explorer you'd recommend? I dont mind buying software, just want to make sure I'm not mistaken before I buy something that is worthless to me.

You get a trial on any purchased software in android. After its installed if you go backto market and pull it up again there will be a refund option. So no risk. I think its for 24 hours.
As for a free one I'm not sure when I first started messing around with android I bought it because people said it was the best. I don't have any regrets.
Just remember to tap the top button for rw. Long press brings up options. Menu had an option for multiple file select and other goodies. its very powerful.

Aridon, thanks for everything, just 1 more question. I bought it, and the program is slick. I went to /system/app and deleted facebook, is that all I need to do?
Cause I still see it in the menu
I may have done a bad thing, my phone just reset itself.... I need a trainer to be with me at all times.

So after that restart, the files I thought I deleted are back.

Yes just go into system/app, make sure it says rw up top which means read write access, then select the file, general an .apk and .odex and delete. Not all files have both and some roms don't have any .odex files.
I'll be up for another 30 min or so and I'll keep an eye on this thread in case you have any questions.

Ok that means the second part where you unlocked nand wasn't done correctly. Make sure you go slow, download the files again because they are different and watch for errors.
The only hiccup I had was when I copied the new recovery and other files to my sd and tried to adb push it gave me some kind of can't find file error. I had to reboot and it was fine. It send after the boot I could go back in and adb the files it must have been some kind if a refresh error on the sd while in recovery.
Edit. I'm responding on my evo and in bed so excuse errors.

Go to sleep, I'll resume this thread tomorrow if I'm still having trouble. You Sir, are a life saver. This is why XDA is THE FORUM for anything mobile.

Good night then.
I know it can be a bit of a pain to do this but I promise you it will be worth it. Things have only just started and the custom roms are already awesome. Once we get the source code things are going to be insane over here.

Got it! Everything is working well. However, now my voice mail says it can not download messages.... Rebooted and it's all good.
Facebook and Twitter Free! Also, no more Sprint crap.
Life is good, again.

Another terminal substitute is Android Commander, out is naturally a file explorer that allows transfer and deletion off whatever you want. This program runs in your pc.
As Was mentioned above, root explorer is the easiest way.

Aridon said:
If you want to do it in android you either need console program or a file manager. Root explorer us the best one and easiest. Looks just like a typical explorer, tap the rw/ro button for read only or read write and delete away.
You have to have completed the second part of unlocking nand. Otherwise your only option is using a computer and adb in recovery.
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So with Android - one simply deletes the application rather than un-installing it? That doesn't cause problems with the system thinking the application still exists somewhere?

DrawnToScale said:
So with Android - one simply deletes the application rather than un-installing it? That doesn't cause problems with the system thinking the application still exists somewhere?
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It depends on where it is installed. /system/apps do not allow you to just uninstall you have to delete it. One this is done its gone. Obviously if you delete phone.apk you are going to have issues or if you delete a process that is running you may get a force close but for the most part unless you delete an app like people or dialer you are fine. After the single force close everything works properly.
Some custom roms moved programs to /data/app which allows them to be removed the other way.

Tried to Root...

New Member here,
I tried to root without success. Downloaded file, placed in sd card directory, successfully rebooted into recovery and launched file. Was notified it was a success and phone rebooted properly.
However, Titanium is telling my phone is not rooted and I cannot seem to mount my phone anymore to re-try the process. (deleted the file and need to replace it)
Any thoughts would be appreciated. The phone seems to be fine otherwise.

Lordjish said:
New Member here,
I tried to root without success. Downloaded file, placed in sd card directory, successfully rebooted into recovery and launched file. Was notified it was a success and phone rebooted properly.
However, Titanium is telling my phone is not rooted and I cannot seem to mount my phone anymore to re-try the process. (deleted the file and need to replace it)
Any thoughts would be appreciated. The phone seems to be fine otherwise.
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Downloaded what file?

update.zip.
Titanium seems to be working now (despite telling me over and over that debugging isn't enabled for development while it is : /)
Mounting still isn't working...not sure what to do about that. Are we unable to mount while USB debugging is enabled?

To root my phone I downloaded "One Click Root" to my PC. Put the contents in to a folder and then click the .exe file. Make sure your Vibrant is plugged in and then click the one click root button.
You need to make sure you have the latest Samsung driver installed and Microsoft .NET Framework 4 before you try to root.

It's as if my computer cannot see the phone anymore because it's rooted? I connected it to the computer and it thought it needed to install drivers...which of course there are none. I've used the computer numerous times to mount, so this is bizarre.

Lordjish said:
It's as if my computer cannot see the phone anymore because it's rooted? I connected it to the computer and it thought it needed to install drivers...which of course there are none. I've used the computer numerous times to mount, so this is bizarre.
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Make sure debugging mode is not selected and when you plug your phone in to the pc does your phone give you an option on how to connect to your pc?

Yeah thanks ....Through trial and error ...and a usb driver reset program...something made it work again.
Now dare I try and install ROM? : D

Lordjish said:
Yeah thanks ....Through trial and error ...and a usb driver reset program...something made it work again.
Now dare I try and install ROM? : D
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Sure. Make sure you are rooted by downloading OCLF from the market. This will let you know if you are rooted or not. Make sure you have clockworkmod "rom manager" installed. Put the rom on the root of your phone (do not unzip it) and use rom manager to install it. Do a backup of your phone first. Should be good to go.

Thanks Lethal....
This is going smoothly and am now making a back up of my phone

Let us know what ROM you decide to go with. Nero v3 is the new hotness.

Lordjish said:
Thanks Lethal....
This is going smoothly and am now making a back up of my phone
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Hey no problem. I am happy I was able to help you out.

I chose Axura. I've successfully installed but I have no widgets besides messaging, market & maps.
How do I restore Dialer, Contact, etc widgets?
How do I access an applications list besides the manager?
How do I restore my apps that I backed up through titanium...do I reboot? I just don't want to screw it up
I chose ADW if that makes any difference
It's already amazing how much faster and responsive the phone is!

UPDATE: I've switched to Launcher Pro...and things look better. So basically I just need to know to restore contacts, apps, etc

Lordjish said:
UPDATE: I've switched to Launcher Pro...and things look better. So basically I just need to know to restore contacts, apps, etc
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AND............. there you have it ......... With a the new joy of discovery..........
........... A new ROM addict...........

All thanks to the generous people of this forum I went from rooting to ROM installation in a few hours. Thank you!
(For those hesitating to mess with these things it's very easy!)

Lordjish said:
UPDATE: I've switched to Launcher Pro...and things look better. So basically I just need to know to restore contacts, apps, etc
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When you download all your widgets and apps you want, you will want to download Titanium Backup which is great for backing up everything. If you decide to flash to a new rom or an updated rom you can simply restore all of your apps and widgets easily. Contacts as well if you chose not to store them to your sim card.

Lordjish said:
It's as if my computer cannot see the phone anymore because it's rooted? I connected it to the computer and it thought it needed to install drivers...which of course there are none. I've used the computer numerous times to mount, so this is bizarre.
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Im experiencing the same problem. The only difference is that Im not yet Rooted. My computer isn't detecting my phone.

[Q] what are the advantages and disadvantages of rooting and are there any risks?

Could somebody please tell me what the advantages and disadvantages of rooting the flipside are, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, are there any risks??
Will I be able to take of all of these ATT apps?
Will I be able to move my apps from the phones memory to the SD card?
Can the phone be unrooted?
Will all of my apps still work?
What is the best route to root? I have the z4root.
I am much indebted to anyone who will answer these questions. Thanks.

z4root will work fine, it's nice an easy to use. Rooting won't give you an easy way to move apps to the sd card, but you can remove the AT&T (and other system) apps. You can either do it by hand, or with any number of apps on the market. I prefer titanium backup, personally. All of your existing apps will work, there's no change there.
The only real disadvantage is that you'll have the power to screw up your phone. You can potentially screw up bad enough that you'll need to reflash the stock .sbf file. Generally, this takes some real screwing around, but just thought I'd point it out.

Thank u for your thourough answer. What do you mean by screw it up. How could I do that and how do i avoid it. Are you saying by virtue of the fact that i'm rooting that i'll screw it up, or it's something that i may do afterwards that may do it? Thanks.
also, are there any other advantages to rooting other than taking off the apps?

The act of rooting itself shouldn't screw anything up, but having root means you could possibly do something later that would. Generally, you'd have to be messing with stuff you have no business messing with. With root, you can remount the system directory as read/write, and then end up deleting or modifying a file that won't let the phone boot, which means you'd need to reflash. Stay away from the command line if you don't know what you're doing, and don't grant root access to apps you don't trust, and you're reasonably safe.
Other than removing system apps, like the AT&T garbage, you can also backup and restore apps and their data, which is great for if you need to reflash, if you switch phones, etc. There's not a TON of stuff that requires root, but honestly, removing the AT&T junk is definitely a good reason to root, the phone feels much faster after scrapping a lot of the blur and AT&T stuff.

I'm assuming then that any android/att/Motorola updates will not be problem either? BTW, do you if and when Motorola will bupdating the flipside to 2.2? Thanks.

There shouldn't be any problem updating with an official update if/when we get one, but you'll need to re-root and remove the AT&T stuff again. There's no word on when we'll get 2.2, but I'd assume we'll get it at some point.

Ok. I just rooted! Yeah, it worked! But i cannot figue out how to delete the att bloatware. I go into the apps manager and click on one of the att apps, and there is still no option to uninstall; only to clear the cache. Also, I downloaded the titanium and I cannot figure out how to do it from there either. Plus, I still had to sideload the titanium which i tbought that i would not have to do once i rooted.

mordechai said:
Plus, I still had to sideload the titanium which i tbought that i would not have to do once i rooted.
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You need to enable Unknown Sources before you can install non-Market apps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867637
This is also an example of how you can mess up your phone by having root access.

That is part of the problem that i do not have that option in two.one. that is why i had to sideload all of those programs. are you saying that i screwed up my phone. i tried clicking on the link but this googlw ad comes up and i cant get past it.

Ok, i got through to the link. But the guy seems pretty shaky as to whether you should follow his instructions. Is this legit or what?

Maybe one of you guys can help. I'm new to alot of this but my last droid x was rooted and it was great I used z4root worked perfectly. But now I have a new X and a z4root apk. On my laptop, now what? Last rooted X, I was fortunate enough to catch z4root on the market, like a day before they updated. HELP!!!!!
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There are instructions in another post in this forum on how to enable Non-Market Apps, also known as Unknown Sources. With Titanium Backup, make sure that you grant it root permissions when it asks, and that it says something like this on the overview:
Root access: OK (BusyBox 1.17.2 from system)
HyperShell (FAST!): YES
Fast/Auto app install: Yes (using HyperShell)
SQLite: YES (SQLite 3.7.2 included)
Then just click on Backup/Restore at the top, and you'll get a list of all your apps. If you don't have backup/restore at the top, your sd card isn't mounted on the phone, unplug your usb cable and hit Menu > More > Reload application.
From Backup/Restore, you get a huge list of all the apps on your phone. Just scroll down to the AT&T stuff, tap them, and click uninstall in the top-right corner. If you're not sure if you want to uninstall something, because it might belong to something important, click Freeze instead. Freezing will stop the app from running, and stop it from showing up in your tray, but you can easily unfreeze it to restore it if it turns out it was important.
Here's the list of stuff I have frozen/uninstalled:
AdService 1.0
all of the "AT&T" apps
all of the "com.motorola" apps
Data Manager and Data Manager Service
Help Center
Home (I use ADWLauncher, don't remove this if you don't already have an alternative launcher installed)
MediaSync
Mobile Video
all of the "MotoBlur" apps
My Uploads
Phone Portal
Quick Contact
Social Messaging, Social Messaging Service, Social Networking, and Social Status
Sticky Note
Video Editor Lite
Vlingo Voice
Weather 2.1
WHERE
Work Contacts
Mobile Banking
Magic Smoke Wallpapers
Kodak Perfect Touch
AT&T Address Book
Quickoffice
YPmobile
As for enabling unknown sources, it's a bit of a pain, you'll need to be comfortable with a command line to do replace the files, and comfortable with a hex editor if you want to edit your own instead of reusing someone else's files. I managed to screw up my phone in the process and had to completely reflash and start over, it wasn't fun.
His instructions do work, but his .sh file doesn't work, you'll need to paste the commands one by one into your command prompt. I preferred to edit my own files, so I wouldn't have the same market ID, and that's just slightly more complex. I can help you through it either way though, just make a post over in that thread if you're having problems.
bubba90744 said:
Maybe one of you guys can help. I'm new to alot of this but my last droid x was rooted and it was great I used z4root worked perfectly. But now I have a new X and a z4root apk. On my laptop, now what? Last rooted X, I was fortunate enough to catch z4root on the market, like a day before they updated. HELP!!!!!
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You just need to get z4root installed on your phone, it should be pretty straightforward. The Droid X shouldn't be blocking non-market apps, so just download it from your phone and run the .apk to install.

So do I hook my phone up to my laptop, and put the apk. on my sd?
Or download the apk. directly to my phone from the site?
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I found the link, but the directions are too complicated for my novice understanding of technology. It looks like I am stuck. I don't want to try what he's saying and take any chances. Are there any other alternatives? Or do you have any other suggestions as to how to make the most of the space that I do have with the att bloatware, because I am constantly running out of room. It is a strange phenomenon that I don't understand, that when I turn on the phone it will have around 40mb to play with, and after a few hours it is down to 16 and then 10, and then before I know it, the phone is telling me that my memory is full. So then I reset and it's back to ~40 again. Do you have an explanation? Thanks.

[Q] Missing Notification Bar

Hey all. I have a Droid X that has been running with Launcher Pro Plus for the past few months.
I rooted my phone the other day and everything was going fine. I downloaded Titanium Backup, ShootMe, and then Metamorph.
I've been checking out droidpirate.com and downloaded a few different notification bar color schemes, which were working fine. Today I downloaded another and decided I wanted to change it, so I switched to a new one through Metamorph, applied it, and rebooted my phone. Upon restart it was still the same color as before, so I applied again and before I could restart it gave me an error message that the status/notification bar (not sure which it said at the time) had crashed.
I restarted it, and ever since then I've had no notification bar. I've tried reapplying the color schemes in Metamorph and restarting after, but nothing has changed.
I've gone to the Launcher Pro settings and toggled on and off the "hide notification bar" setting which hasn't changed anything. I've restored my backup in Titanium Backup and it is still the same. I'm not sure what else to do at this point.
What do you all suggest? It really sucks to not see my battery meter, time, etc. when I open my phone. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!

I don't know if this is best practice, but I would just re-sbf / reinstall rom.

FluffyMittens said:
I don't know if this is best practice, but I would just re-sbf / reinstall rom.
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Does that mean flashing the Droid X rom? I am new to all of this, so I'm sorry if these are stupid questions. And what guide would you recommend for going about doing this? Thanks!

Download RSD Lite and flash an SBF. There's a sticky telling you how to do this I'll subscribe to this thread in case you have any questions.

Great, thanks for the info! I'll give this a try tomorrow.

Wait!
Before you do that...
(Which is good advice, and would be my second choice...but you'll be without all of your applications and settings. This will put you on complete stock!)
http://www.chadhaney.com/droidXDefault/4.5.602/
Download the file that this theme was changing.
(system/framework/framework-res.apk I think?)
Download "Root Explorer" from the market...or a free alternative if you can get one to work.
I think "ES file explorer" works, but I've never tried it.
Check the "permissions" on the file you'll be replacing...and change the new file to have the same permissions (prior to moving, just to be safe).
Move and replace the new file into place.
If your phone didn't reboot during that process...
Double check the permissions again...
And reboot.

I knew it was only a matter of time, and that's a good resolve. Thanks for the alternative!

Jubakuba said:
Wait!
Before you do that...
(Which is good advice, and would be my second choice...but you'll be without all of your applications and settings. This will put you on complete stock!)
http://www.chadhaney.com/droidXDefault/4.5.602/
Download the file that this theme was changing.
(system/framework/framework-res.apk I think?)
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I'm not seeing that file on the website you mentioned. If I ctrl+f framework, all I see is a GoogleServicesFramework.apk file. Would it perhaps be the StatusWidget.apk from that list that I am looking for?

Status widget doesn't sound right, but I have never had to recover my notifications bar before.

http://www.mydroidworld.com/topic/8240-official-gingerbread-update-45602-rooted-and-ready-or-stock/
Sorry man, at work...and can't check...but this should have it.
Or if you've purchased Rom Toolbox or Rom Manager...they have some .zips you can download via your phone and extract with your PC.

Ahh this is all confusing me. I can't find the framework-res.apk on that site either. Would it work to just hard reset my phone then download an app restore app? Then re-root it and restore everything to how it used to be with Titanium?

The framework-res.apk was an attempt to fix your phone without wiping your apps and all that fun stuff. A hard reset wouldn't fix the problem because the file, in theory, is still corrupted or not working. I would sbf your phone. It looks creepy but it's just resetting back to stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11118819&postcount=2
Go down to SBF: What is it, and what does it do?!?
If the files are offline because of the SOPAA thing, let me know.

Alright, looks like that's what I'm gonna try. Thanks to both of you for all the help, it is greatly appreciated . Before I go through with it I was just wondering, if I backup all my apps to my SD card with "App Backup and Restore" then reinstall the app after the backup, I'm guessing it should be able to reinstall my apps from the SD afterwards? (I wouldn't use Titanium to restore because I'm assuming that would restore my phone with the flawed system data I have now)

The apps themselves wont be flawed. The phone runs off a whole bunch of apk's. Just the apk that controls the notification bar was messed up. You should be fine with backing up your apps regardless of method. Use what program you're comfortable with.

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The apps themselves wont be flawed. The phone runs off a whole bunch of apk's. Just the apk that controls the notification bar was messed up. You should be fine with backing up your apps regardless of method. Use what program you're comfortable with.
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Agreed...
But to reiterate...
Titanium won't bork you in any way.
Simply use the option>batch>restore USER apps option and you'll be %100 back to where you were...aside from having to change your settings back to where you had them...
Also...
Facebook and any "Overclocking" applications seem to behave badly when restored.
Not in a negative way...
But I always uninstall them after a restore and install manually through the market...
Facebook won't receive push notifications if you don't.
And Overclock apps simply may not work.
Everything else (game data...whatever) will be exactly as you had it.
Check my sig if you need...
And use the sections about backing up and restoring your data.
Ignore the actual rom flashing part...as it's irrelevant in your situation.
There is also another SBF link in there if the one Fluffy posted is dead.

So I downloaded the latest RSD lite with no problems, but whenever I try to download the "Droid X 4.5.602 SBF Gingerbread 2.3.3" file, it leads me to http://www.multiupload.com/57SX6Q5HJI which lists the file as 602.sbf.zip but downloads as a program called "iLivid", which is a video downloading program.
Any suggestions?

Different Mirror?
http://www.mydroidworld.com/topic/8503-official-45602-sbf-for-droid-x/

Figures, thanks a bunch. I tried the download links from two different forums and both led to that same program download, but it looks like I've got the right one downloading now. Thanks again for all the help, I'm going to try the whole restoration process this weekend when I have more time. I'll let you know how it goes.

ec91199 said:
Figures, thanks a bunch. I tried the download links from two different forums and both led to that same program download, but it looks like I've got the right one downloading now. Thanks again for all the help, I'm going to try the whole restoration process this weekend when I have more time. I'll let you know how it goes.
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I am totally up sh*t-creek and looking for that .602 SBF - can you point me in the direction. (Damnable SOPA!)

http://www.multiupload.com/ZCEAXVOASG
off of:
https://sites.google.com/site/1kdsdroidx/

Need some help of a rare sort... deleted folders arent deleting!

Ive purchased the full version of No Bloat, trying to get things more manageable on my device.
There are things that are not removing, despite me telling them to.
in system/app/flipboarddebriefing/arm/<somefilename>.odex
this is a reminant of an app i have already removed...so i wanted to fully delete it... but it wont delete!! Root browser says it deleted, for a quick second... but the damn thing stays there.
i *am* rooted, i *have* removed system apps with other apps (at first uninstall master, but since ive discovered that wont recover properly on my device, im using nobloat now).
Why if i have root, and am using a root based browser, are things NOT removing as though i am not rooted??!? I downloaded root checker today, and yes i am in fact rooted successfully.... so what gives? i DONT understand this, not one bit.
Im on rooted but stock samsung galaxy s5 neo, with twrp recovery installed, and a full nandroid backup made. successfully.
I dont understand why some root features are going smooth while others are almost like in high school when deep freeze was installed on the library computers, where no matter what you did, next reset (or in my case, not even a reboot required!) things were exactly as they were *before* you messed wth them, things unchanged.
why is this happening to me?? i never did enable knox so it cant possibly be that... can it??
ETA i have tried going in through the file explorer in twrp... but even in there i cant access the system folder at all, let alone delete things. A few days ago, some things in another folder werent deleting, so i went into twrp and ultimately deleted them, and those did stay deleted.
I just plain dont understand. s2 = root = do whatever the heck you want. s5=root=well remove some apps for you but its remains will stay on your system, for-evvvv-errr.
is there some sort of build in deep freeze type app that i can go in and get rid of (some how, if it will let me, frig).

Can anyone help me with this? Still not working properly...
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Pawprints1986 said:
Ive purchased the full version of No Bloat, trying to get things more manageable on my device.
There are things that are not removing, despite me telling them to.
in system/app/flipboarddebriefing/arm/<somefilename>.odex
this is a reminant of an app i have already removed...so i wanted to fully delete it... but it wont delete!! Root browser says it deleted, for a quick second... but the damn thing stays there.
i *am* rooted, i *have* removed system apps with other apps (at first uninstall master, but since ive discovered that wont recover properly on my device, im using nobloat now).
Why if i have root, and am using a root based browser, are things NOT removing as though i am not rooted??!? I downloaded root checker today, and yes i am in fact rooted successfully.... so what gives? i DONT understand this, not one bit.
Im on rooted but stock samsung galaxy s5 neo, with twrp recovery installed, and a full nandroid backup made. successfully.
I dont understand why some root features are going smooth while others are almost like in high school when deep freeze was installed on the library computers, where no matter what you did, next reset (or in my case, not even a reboot required!) things were exactly as they were *before* you messed wth them, things unchanged.
why is this happening to me?? i never did enable knox so it cant possibly be that... can it??
ETA i have tried going in through the file explorer in twrp... but even in there i cant access the system folder at all, let alone delete things. A few days ago, some things in another folder werent deleting, so i went into twrp and ultimately deleted them, and those did stay deleted.
I just plain dont understand. s2 = root = do whatever the heck you want. s5=root=well remove some apps for you but its remains will stay on your system, for-evvvv-errr.
is there some sort of build in deep freeze type app that i can go in and get rid of (some how, if it will let me, frig).
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The reason why it keeps coming back is becoz some of the apps are PRELOADED by default and to get rid of them for good you need to go to the root of those apps.
Use any root explorer app
1. Check /preload/ folder..make sure you delete the apps there as well
2. Check /System/CSC/ and look for any /System/app/ and /System/priv-app/ and do the same as above.

Hmm... I'll give it a look, but I even had problems with deleting data from a user app in the same manner...
Eta, I have nothing in my preload folder at all.. At least not that root browser is seeing.
Tried Flipboard deleting the odex file again, still not working.
Any other suggestions?
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Pawprints1986 said:
Hmm... I'll give it a look, but I even had problems with deleting data from a user app in the same manner...
Eta, I have nothing in my preload folder at all.. At least not that root browser is seeing.
Tried Flipboard deleting the odex file again, still not working.
Any other suggestions?
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Which root/file explorer are you using?
EDIT: Ok I see you said Root browser.
Try another file explorer like ES file explorer