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coreplayer mobile - buy it, its fantastic!

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They did the same thing with coreavc, all sorts of things promised yonks again and never delivered.

Thanks for your post, though personally I've not rencoded anything for Coreplayer, everything plays fine.

O and O said:
Thanks for your post, though personally I've not rencoded anything for Coreplayer, everything plays fine.
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Try playing some 800*480, the processor isn't capable of it alone. Album and WMP can use acceleration on mp4/h264, so are capable of running higher res/bitrate files.

DVD rips play way better on Coreplayer. And most people just can't be arsed to encode a file for an hour while they can just play it instantly and fluidly with coreplayer.

dvd rip
yawn...........

I found coreplayer to juddery for full resolution movies. I find myself re-encoding most stuff anyway since there is no AC3 support and then i play them through windows media player. Works fine for me then.

As an interim measure they could just have implemented DirectShow support.
PocketPlayer has it and consequently it has hardware acceleration.
It may not allow CorePlayer to give us support for additional codecs but at least people wouldn't get mad because they've spent good money on a program that runs far slower than the free one that came with the phone.
I'm disappointed that almost 5 months since I bought CorePlayer it's still sitting there unused. For me it's been a waste of money, and I heard that they're expecting us to pay to upgrade to version 2.

Core player 1.3
I've used CP1.3 and it playes Rips without a problem (axxo, fxg, you name it) no conversion needed. 700mb straight on SD. Word of advice from the wise Don't buy, first you try.

They don't have a trial version available... but they claim on the forum that they do offer a refund if you buy it and aren't happy.

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They don't have a trial version available... but they claim on the forum that they do offer a refund if you buy it and aren't happy.
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Be creative...

I have to say i to have run out of patience with Coreplayer. None of the core products seem to do anything to be honest. I tried Corecodec on my netbook, but it didn't improve performance over ffdshow at all, if anything it just made the output look worse.
For the HD i just use MP4forHD, conversion takes but moments on my quad core anyway.

Bugblatter said:
As an interim measure they could just have implemented DirectShow support.
PocketPlayer has it and consequently it has hardware acceleration.
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Pocket player is very slow when playing a .mp4 vide on my HD.
But WMP can play it fine. So either pocket player don't use the hardware acceleration or there is a settgin somewhere to enable it (so if you know about it please..pleas...).
I'm looking ofr a software that can remember where I am in a video (coreplayer can do it, I think pocket player can also do it). And that can use the hardware acceleration like in WMP.
Is there a plugin for WMP that could help me ?

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MOD EDIT
coreplayer is not freeware......please don't promote warez here.
thank you

Wow... nice flame, how about inviting me?
As far as stoolzo he was warned and then banned for not following the forum rules, no diff then he would here if he posted here out of line.
As far as the other posts/flames...
arfster... pls be specific to CoreAVC.... we have delivered everything we stated for 1.x including NVIDIA CUDA support. What we you looking for, higher res video not created for mobile devices? Come on.
arghness... correct we have no trial but we also have a no questions asked refund policy for CorePlayer. If it does not work for you, then you deserve your money back, simple.
Bugblatter... directshow is coming and as of now I am unaware of any other media player that supports as many hardware GPU schemes that CorePlayer does; Xscale, QtV (overlay), RMI, PS2, ATI Imageon and Coming later this year is both CUDA and OpenCL.
Bugblatter... also please tell me when PP added hardware accelleration support. For what GPU's?

beta_boy said:
Coming later this year is both CUDA and OpenCL.
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Will the Blackstone make use of this? The QTv support isn't useful at all, at least it doesn't improve the playback .
You have announced (here) that you plan to support QTv, how is it going on this matter?

stoolzo said:
After reading various reviews and the bumpf on their website about qtv and codec support i decided to purchase copeplayer for my touch hd. I soon found that where it was definately better than tcmp it wasnt £20 better. The main reason for the purchase though was the promise to have full QTV support which was promised by one of the developers "betaBoy" in various forumn threads. When it because clear that these promises where becoming empty I created a few threads to discuss this and question where the delays wre coming from. For this had all my threads deleted and after question "betaboy" through the private message forum I was banned for suggesting that it would be better to rencode existing media and use the HTC album player as it had full acceleration. Coreplayer are clearly hiding the fact that coreplayr will never have full support for the TOuch HD chipset and DO NOT PURCHASE THIS..!!!. Re-encoding is a pain but the results are nothing less than miraculous.
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Thank you for the useful news. But does TCPMP really work on Touch HD ? When I tried it I got an error and a log file to submit to developers... but it seems the project was discontinued. Maybe do exist more versions ? Some advice, please

forum ban
yawn............

its amazing what you can find on google
yawn..................

I've said this before and I will say it again in case you may have missed it.
We are ALL limited for supporting Qtv and by 'WE' I mean _ANY_ developer. Qualcomm has never released an SDK with any details of Snapdragon/Qtv's API's and what we have done in CorePlayer is reverse engineer what we could to support 'overlay only'. No other media player has attempted to do this and we did this are the specific request of our Community, including here at XDA.
Now as far as fully supporting Qtv/Snapdragon... we are working on directshow support atm for Windows and Windows CE/Mobile and it looks on the surface that we 'may' be able to full support the embedded CE/WM directshow filters that are on the supported devices.
The question is if we will need to finish the CE/WM port of the Haali Media Splitter. We are still a few weeks away before we get to the point but I'll fill everyone in as we continue to work on it.

"Flash isn't hardware accelerated"

Just wondering, where does this come from? I've seen this in multiple threads now, but have never seen any official source?

I read this somewhere on a reputable blog can't remember which one. That is why it is still beta apparently.

Adobe hasn't pulled the trigger on tapping into the hardware yet.

semi related question but I don't feel like creating a thread for that : Is Flash included in the FroYo update ? I thought it would but I just installed Paul's pre-rooted FroYo update, and I don't seem to have flash :-/

It is not included. But it is supported. Go to the market and search for it. Then download it.

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Adobe hasn't pulled the trigger on tapping into the hardware yet.
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Can you link where this was posted?
Again, I've heard this so many times now, but I've yet to see where this information is coming from!

I've mostly heard it from interviews with adobe people, and presentations of the beta from months ago.
A quick search brought this first link up.
That might change with the formal launch of Android 2.2, when handset manufacturers use hardware decoding for Flash. In the beta, it's done through software.
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/techchron/detail?&entry_id=64059
Even on computers, flash isn't tapping into hardware. It's the reason people hate flash. It's a huge resource hog as it calls on too much ram and cpu instead of asking for the graphics side of the computer.

Yup, that's what I read. Beta = software only.

Oh thanks Markdental, got it ^^

JCopernicus said:
I've mostly heard it from interviews with adobe people, and presentations of the beta from months ago.
A quick search brought this first link up.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/techchron/detail?&entry_id=64059
Even on computers, flash isn't tapping into hardware. It's the reason people hate flash. It's a huge resource hog as it calls on too much ram and cpu instead of asking for the graphics side of the computer.
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Hmm, not exactly official...
Did Adobe (or Google) ever say it themselves?
OR is there a way for us to determine this ourselves?

Flash has always been based on software, on any platform.
10.1 is supposed to bring relief to computers, phones, laptops and netbooks alike. The beta is still based on software. The end goal of 10.1 is to have it hook into hardware, but that hasn't happened yet.

JCopernicus said:
Flash has always been based on software, on any platform.
10.1 is supposed to bring relief to computers, phones, laptops and netbooks alike. The beta is still based on software. The end goal of 10.1 is to have it hook into hardware, but that hasn't happened yet.
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I think Paul is just looking for some proof that this is the case. Not just more people saying the same thing.

In the release notes (new user, cant link) it says:
H.264 video hardware decoding
Flash Player 10.1 introduces hardware-based H.264 video decoding to deliver smooth, high quality video with minimal overhead across mobile devices and PCs. Using available hardware to decode video offloads tasks from the CPU, improving video playback performance, reducing system resource utilization, and preserving battery life.
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but under Known Issues it says
Flash on Android supports software decoding for all the same H.264 profiles as Flash on the desktop, and uses the hardware decoder for videos using H.264 Baseline Profile and Level <= 3.2.
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which makes me believe that GPU acceleration is in place, but not for that many videos yet.

F-Forward said:
In the release notes (new user, cant link) it says:
but under Known Issues it says
which makes me believe that GPU acceleration is in place, but not for that many videos yet.
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Hmm if so..what sites or video player would be H.264 based?

Markdental said:
I think Paul is just looking for some proof that this is the case. Not just more people saying the same thing.
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Sure I guess, but all that stuff is based on engineers and employees displaying the betas.

Markdental said:
I think Paul is just looking for some proof that this is the case. Not just more people saying the same thing.
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Yes! Exactly.
F-Forward said:
In the release notes (new user, cant link) it says:
but under Known Issues it says
which makes me believe that GPU acceleration is in place, but not for that many videos yet.
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You can always just remove the http://www. part to provide a text link.
Anyway, found it: http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Flash_Player_10.1_for_Android
As you said "Flash on Android supports software decoding for all the same H.264 profiles as Flash on the desktop, and uses the hardware decoder for videos using H.264 Baseline Profile and Level <= 3.2."
So... Wouldn't that be proof right there that Flash on Android already *DOES* support hardware decoding?

Engadget states that; "according to Adobe, the pre-release beta they have doesn't support hardware acceleration" - unless they are using a different beta, there currently is no hardware acceleration in the version of Flash we are currently using.
http://i.engadget.com/2010/05/20/android-2-2-froyo-beta-hands-on-flash-10-1-wifi-hotspots-an/

There is an official statement from Adobe that the final version will be hardware accelerated using the H.264 codec. This does reqiure websites to update their flash content to support the mobile version... however some sites won't if they already use H.264 for their video encoding in their flash. Games are the big one that will need to be updated and optimized.
I am at work, so can't really search too much for it, I am limited to only a handful of phone websites, with my phone I can find info, but copying over a link is a lot of work.

pjcforpres said:
There is an official statement from Adobe that the final version will be hardware accelerated using the H.264 codec. This does reqiure websites to update their flash content to support the mobile version... however some sites won't if they already use H.264 for their video encoding in their flash. Games are the big one that will need to be updated and optimized.
I am at work, so can't really search too much for it, I am limited to only a handful of phone websites, with my phone I can find info, but copying over a link is a lot of work.
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Any idea which site it was?
And work on a Sunday! Boo. Also, a neat trick: open up the Gmail app, hit compose, paste whatever you want, and save as draft. Boom, now it's in Gmail on your desktop. Great way to transfer data back and forth easily.

Paul22000 said:
Any idea which site it was?
And work on a Sunday! Boo. Also, a neat trick: open up the Gmail app, hit compose, paste whatever you want, and save as draft. Boom, now it's in Gmail on your desktop. Great way to transfer data back and forth easily.
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I can't login to my gmail at work, though. I guess I could post it with my phone, but to be honest a little too lazy.
It was on Adobe's website, and there were a couple news articles about it as well...
http://www.24worldnews.com/adobe-flash-10-1-for-android/14512/
I hope that works for you for now, it should be a news brief of the Adobe announcement.

CoreAVC for Android

FYI for those looking to get MKV support & accelerated H264 playback on the Xoom, may want to petition Moto and ask them to license CoreAVC for Android,
http://twitter.com/CoreCodec/status/42963261569777664
Hopefully, CorePlayer to come soon.

e.mote said:
FYI for those looking to get MKV support & accelerated H264 playback on the Xoom, may want to petition Moto and ask them to license CoreAVC for Android,
http://twitter.com/CoreCodec/status/42963261569777664
Hopefully, CorePlayer to come soon.
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I used that years ago on an older Windows desktop that would not play any MKV reliably and it worked great.

posted it on their forum:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/46992

onicrom said:
posted it on their forum:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/46992
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Thanks... added my two pennies.

http://twitter.com/corecodec
GunmanTheH:
@CoreCodec Hope retail will come soon
CoreCodec:
@GunmanTheH the plan is to get it out asap, preferably by mid-month to retail.

Excellent. CorePlayer was my go to player on Windows Mobile. Hopefully this'll be available when I get my Xoom next month.

I dunno if moto would even be able to include this in the zoom, because it's a Google experience device. I will post on their forums tho along with you all.

Maybe Google needs to be made aware of this.
It would be awesome for MKV vids, but will it help out with other formats, as well?

I think getting the retail version will be the faster and more expedient route for most, as waiting for the firmware route, even if Moto is responsive, will take weeks or months.
However, it's important to let Moto know that you, as their customers, consider this feature as important and want it incorporated into the firmware. This allows derivative custom ROMs to also include the software on a quasi-legal basis, as the OEM license could be argued as being applicable for the device regardless of the firmware used.
@arrtoodeetoo
Supported formats in the link below are for CorePlayer,
http://corecodec.com/products/coreplayer
Note that the two popular audio codecs used mostly in "downloadable" HD videos (DTS and AC3) are not among the list. Betaboy (CC dev) has explicitly confirmed that AC3 won't be supported.
That means that those who have said videos will need to convert their audio tracks. This is fairly simple and fast (and can be batch processed), taking only minutes per full-length video.

Looking forward to this going live and hearing how it plays out.

Here are the platform-specific errata notes for CorePlayer.
http://forums.corecodec.com/threads/402-**-CorePlayer-Platform-Specific-Limitations-and-Notes
Ignore the list (it's 4 years old). The thing to note is the CC dev's remark below:
"Limitations are gonna be hard to pinpoint atm as there really is none other then bluetooth limitations. Codecs will become less of an issue as we will have in app purchasing for additional codecs."

Damn... I haven't used Core since my last winmo phone... I hope they don't charge to much for codecs. 1 or 2 bucks a pop each.

Wow I still have my COreplayer install file from my 5 year old phone! I would Love to see this on Honeycomb
PLz Moto Make it so!

I just posted on the thread at the Motorola Owner's forum. I am not holding out a tremendous amount of hope for OEM licensing, but CorePlayer should do the trick.

Regardless of whether Moto will or won't license Core, they need to know that the Xoom's multimedia support is awful. They won't know unless we tell them. From the Moto admin's responses, they're clueless.
http://twitter.com/corecodec
Re: Core - To clarify, the retail version mentioned as being released soonish is likely the CorePlayer 2.0 for Android & iOS. CoreAVC 2.5 is available to devs & OEMs, and will be available to Win/Lin/Mac (not Droid/iOS) end-users later.
CorePlayer notwithstanding, I still can't imagine that Nvidia would be content with having the entire wave of Tegra2 tabs being stuck with no accelerated multimedia support.
You can voice your queries about the Tegra2 multimedia support here,
http://tegradeveloper.nvidia.com/tegra/forums/tegra-forums/android-development

I want to contact Samsung!!!!

Hi everyone.
Recently i have updated my galaxy tab 10.1 wifi to touchwiz ux. I haven't rooted my tab, so i got all stock roms.
The tab was so so good and smooth before touchwiz. I was playing any video format with the stock video player. After updating to touchwiz, i got "sorry, this video cannot be played" for mp4 videos. So, the touchwiz has removed the video support.
Can anyone give me the site or email to contact Samsung support and ask them:
Will u roll an update to resolve Touchwiz bugs?
Thanks,
Sultan,

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/contact#

Just shoot a tweet to Koush. I heard he got a sweet gig there.

Sultan.MA said:
Hi everyone.
Recently i have updated my galaxy tab 10.1 wifi to touchwiz ux. I haven't rooted my tab, so i got all stock roms.
The tab was so so good and smooth before touchwiz. I was playing any video format with the stock video player. After updating to touchwiz, i got "sorry, this video cannot be played" for mp4 videos. So, the touchwiz has removed the video support.
Can anyone give me the site or email to contact Samsung support and ask them:
Will u roll an update to resolve Touchwiz bugs?
Thanks,
Sultan,
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Try the number in the link that JYE75 posted. I find it surprising that you're having problems playing videos after Touchwiz.... my 2nd Tab (3rd one is on the way) played those types od videos with no problems both before and after the update. Hope they get it resolved for you.

I love Samsung for quick and easy support... have you ever tried to get something from HTC?
https://twitter.com/#!/SamsungSupport
By the way, your "bug" is "working as intended".

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I love Samsung for quick and easy support... have you ever tried to get something from HTC?
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Not sure what HTC support is like for carrier phones, but the couple of times I had issues with my N1 they had overnight cross-shipped replacements to me without any complaint.

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Just shoot a tweet to Koush. I heard he got a sweet gig there.
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Koush got hired by Samsung too? I didn't know that, I know that they grabbed Cyanogen.

Sultan.MA said:
Hi everyone.
Recently i have updated my galaxy tab 10.1 wifi to touchwiz ux. I haven't rooted my tab, so i got all stock roms.
The tab was so so good and smooth before touchwiz. I was playing any video format with the stock video player. After updating to touchwiz, i got "sorry, this video cannot be played" for mp4 videos. So, the touchwiz has removed the video support.
Can anyone give me the site or email to contact Samsung support and ask them:
Will u roll an update to resolve Touchwiz bugs?
Thanks,
Sultan,
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not sure why it is not working for you? I converted a bunch of videos to mp4 before touchwiz update. After the update I removed RockPlayer because the stock touchwiz video app played all my videos flawlessly, including the ones I converted for 5.1 surround sound...

OP is correct. It was widely reported that TW update won't play certain H.264 video encoded with certain profiles which plays fine in 3.1 non-TW ROM. Check the earlier TW threads and you will find all the complaints there. I suspect Samsung will roll up any of these fixes into next ROM updates instead of releasing a quick fix. Of course, next ROM updates will also come with new bugs.
EDIT: see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1203895&highlight=touchwiz+h.264

Ironically my experience is exactly the opposite of the OP. I often received the message that a video couldn't be played on my Tab. I had downloaded 3 other players to be able to play all the video I had.
Once Touchwiz installed that went away and it will now play all of my videos in the supplied video player.

Need an Android Stick.... What would you recommend?

I want to get an Android Stick in the next day or so and wanted to know what you guys would currently recommend?
Seems to be that these 3 are very good ones, have good reviews and are sold on Amazon. I listed them in order of how I was thinking about going.
1. Tronsmart MK908 II
2. Tronsmart T428
3. Tronsmart CX919
Or is there something else out there that is better.
Basically want something for general Android use. Internet, Gaming, light Productivity.
I have an OUYA, Gamestick, Nexus 7' iPads. So that might give you an idea.
I know how to do very basic hacking. Rooting and what not, but would love to have all of it pre done if possible.
Any help and thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

No one has any thoughts? I would like to try and order something today. Leaning towards the MK908 II. Seems fast and responsive. Wifi and Bluetooth are better, comes rooted, and has both a 720p and 1080p kernel.

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No one has any thoughts? I would like to try and order something today. Leaning towards the MK908 II. Seems fast and responsive. Wifi and Bluetooth are better, comes rooted, and has both a 720p and 1080p kernel.
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I recommend mk908ii too

I've got the 908, very worth the money, i'd recommend it.

Keep'm coming guys, I'm also looking to buy one of these babie.

John Waugh said:
I've got the 908, very worth the money, i'd recommend it.
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how much are they roughly?

I see the recommendation for the mk908ii but can it play 1080 in XBMC? I would rather a amlogic than a rockchip based one if XBMC is the main purpose.

I would like to know if they support;
VPN
Bluetooth keyboards
Adobe Flash
DLNA
Gamepads usb and bluetooh
Zattoo player
Cameras for Google Hangouts
One more thing how often they upgrade the firmware, is it planned to have android kitkat on them?
Thanks a lot.

tcblues said:
I would like to know if they support;
VPN
Bluetooth keyboards
Adobe Flash
DLNA
Gamepads usb and bluetooh
Zattoo player
Cameras for Google Hangouts
One more thing how often they upgrade the firmware, is it planned to have android kitkat on them?
Thanks a lot.
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Well yes to all, if not, a custom rom will support it.
I doubt they will get official update to 4.4, no doubt at some point a custom rom will support.
I brought a mk908 v1 for the prospect of running a full linux distro on it and having a far more powerful raspberry pi. While ive got ubuntu running with all the trimmings, still lack hardware acceleration 2d & 3d. Also missing vpu acceleration so only software decoded video, but for reference with this is still powerful enough to soft-decode a 720p bluray smoothly. hwa will be here soon though.
Under android with a custom rom/ kernel i got 20,000 in antutu which blew me away. Defiantly impressed by the rk3188 soc.

Thanks a lot!!!
And what about the MiniX NEOX7 deserves to pay more money for it compare to the normal sticks we talked in here?
http://www.minix.com.hk/Products/MINIX-NEOX7.html

tcblues said:
Thanks a lot!!!
And what about the MiniX NEOX7 deserves to pay more money for it compare to the normal sticks we talked in here?
http://www.minix.com.hk/Products/MINIX-NEOX7.html
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I bought a Minix Neo X7 for my parents mainly for Skype. Unfortunately, atleast with the current 006c firmware, Skype or Hangouts doesn't work. Checkout minixforums.com. There seem to be quite a few issues with video playback & camera support. I cannot say anything personally because I couldn't try the device myself (I am not at home). Hopefully, the new firmware that is expected to come out in November will have the issues fixed. Otherwise, I am afraid it will turn into a paper weight for me.

So considering all options... would you think that Tronsmart MK908 II is the best option available?
I want to buy it as a christmas present for a couple of people and me

tcblues said:
So considering all options... would you think that Tronsmart MK908 II is the best option available?
I want to buy it as a christmas present for a couple of people and me
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If that questions was meant for me, sorry. I don't have much knowledge about these devices to make a recommendation. SomeCoolTech in YouTube has done reviews for some of these. May be you can check that out. Unfortunately, his review praised Neo X7 as well. So, I would be cautious in making any purchase decisions solely based on those videos. Keep in mind that we (my parents) didn't try any video playback with X7. I was disappointed with it because of the video chat issues. From what I understand, Minix X5 doesn't have those kind of camera issues, so I am hoping it will be fixed in the next firmware update.