WP Benchmark SD Card Comparison - Venue Pro General

There was recently a WP7 benchmarking app called WP BENCH released in the market and I am interested to see how the stock sd card is functioning compared to the user replaced sd cards. The benchmark consists of 3 main parts. These are CPU, DATA and GPU.
Stock 16GB SD Card (NoDo)
*non typical result
CPU
Sequential: 21558*-10875 ms
Parallel: 13058*-10312 ms
Data
memory: 13.07-9.8* MB/s
storage: 3.56-0.19* MB/s
GPU
Frames: 698-666*
avg: 23-22 FPS

Here are my results. DVP unlocked 8GB NoDo Tmo USA. Base on my 5 tests, the Storage speed on test #1 is .25MB/s and the others are ~3MB/s+.
Test #1 with reboot
Sequential 10888ms, Parallel 10470ms
Memory 13.07MB/s, Storage 0.25MB/s
694 frames, avg: 23FPS
Updates:
Test #2 no reboot
Sequential 10859ms, Parallel 10404ms
Memory 13.07MB/s, Storage 3.27MB/s
676 frames, avg: 22FPS
Test #3 no reboot
Sequential 10938ms, Parallel 10414ms
Memory 13.07MB/s, Storage 3.02MB/s
689 frames, avg: 23FPS
Test #4 with reboot and #5 without reboot
results were consistant with tests #2 and #3.

My storage on DVP 8GB no-do was 3MB/s

kartbart said:
My storage on DVP 8GB no-do was 3MB/s
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Same here on my pre-nodo 8GB DVP.
FWIW I also tried on a stock Samsung Focus (no SD card, no updates) and got 2.6MB/s.

I have a 32GB Transcend card (upgraded 16GB model), no NoDo (OS version 7008).
CPU
Sequential : 10892
Parallel: 10552
Data:
memory: 13.07 MB/s
storage: 1.56 MB/s
GPU:
640 frames, 21FPs

Replaced stock 16GB card with another class (6) SanDisk 16GB from RadShack
NoDo
CPU
time: 21292 ms
Sequential: 10856 ms
Parallel: 10436 ms
Data
time: 17442
memory: 13.07 MB/s
storage: 3.02 MB/s
GPU
Frames: 692
avg: 23 FPS

Did 2 runs on my stock 16gb DVP w/ NoDo
CPU
sequential: 11014, 12584 ms
parallel: 10462, 11296 ms
DATA @ 0.8 MB
memory: 13.07, 13.07 MB/s
storage: 0.09, 0.35 MB/s <-- huge variability!
GPU
699 avg 23, 692 avg 23 FPS

Installed NoDo on my 8GB and now getting 3.25MB/s pretty reliably. Pre-NoDo was 3.0MB, so results didn't change much and are probably within the margin of error.

16GB Stock card....
First Run:
Memory : 13.07mb/s
Storage : 0.14mb/s
Second Run:
Memory : 12.9 mb/s
Storage : 0.19mb/s
Third Run:
Memory : 9.8 mb/s
Storage : 0.13 mb/s
So am I to believe that the 'Memory' test was for reading and the 'Storage' was for writing?
If this is the case, these damn cards are as defective as could be. I know 2 other guys with Venue Pro 16 GB and they both have the same problem.
How the hell do they get an entire warehouse of defective cards? Did they buy these things refurbished?

Here are my stats based on a 8GB stock Dell Venue Pro pre-nodo:
Test #1 - Power Off & Power On
CPU: Sequential 10866 / Parallel 10471 - 21337ms
DATA: Memory 13.07 / Storage 3.56 - 14810ms
GPU: Frames 694 / Average 23
Test #2 - after 15 minutes of browsing & calls
CPU: Sequential 10868 / Parallel 10470 - 21338ms
DATA: Memory 13.07 / Storage 0.53 - 77737ms
GPU: Frames 692 / Average 23
Test #3 - after 30 minutes of idle
CPU: Sequential 10884 / Parallel 10468 - 21352ms
DATA: Memory 13.07 / Storage 3.56 - 15007ms
GPU: Frames 681 / Average 23

manually replaced with Sandisk 32G Class 2 after NoDo (changed dehydrateonpause to 0):
Test 1 @ 0.8m:
Memory 13.07m
Storage 3.27m
Frame:668 average:22 FPS
Test 2 @ 0.8m:
Memory 13.07m
Storage 3.02m
Frame:660 average:22 FPS

So who's got the best 32gb sd card?
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220452&cm_re=32gb-_-20-220-452-_-Product
And will a class 10 word, or does it have to be 2?

Updated my 16gb DVP w/ NoDo to 32gb Sandisk class 2
Did 2 test runs immediately after
1) installing 32gb micro sdhc
2) set up phone
3) set up all my accounts
4) installed 60 apps & games over wifi
5) synced with PC, copying pictures, videos, and songs totalling 11 GB
AND I HAVEN'T FROZEN OR HAD TO REBOOT ONCE!!!
CPU
sequential: 11049, 11068 ms
parallel: 10486, 10322 ms
DATA @ 0.8 MB
memory: 13.07, 13.07 MB/s
storage: 3.27, 3.27 MB/s <-- MUCH IMPROVED!
GPU
23, 22 avg FPS
Also, the ##634# CIT sd card test now shows status 0 OK.
All in all, I'd say the sd card swap was a huge success.

I got a class 4 SanDisk from Amzn and the write speed dropped (from previous 8 GB SanDisk class 4) from 3 MB/s to 0.64 MB/s.
Update: Ok, just reinstalled and re-ran the WP Bench app - and data performance shows 13.07 MB/s for reads and 3.27 MB/s for write. I say the WP Bench app has issues

For those interested, I posted about my experience in upgrading to a 32gb card.

kartbart said:
I got a class 4 SanDisk from Amzn and the write speed dropped (from previous 8 GB SanDisk class 4) from 3 MB/s to 0.64 MB/s.
Update: Ok, just reinstalled and re-ran the WP Bench app - and data performance shows 13.07 MB/s for reads and 3.27 MB/s for write. I say the WP Bench app has issues
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You´re right. It happens to me as well. I have a Samsung Focus, NoDo installed (with Chevron.Updater), and a Sandisk 16Gb Class 4 loaded with 13Gb.
The storage speed varies from 0,18 to 4.9mb/s but the higher speeds (above 3mb/s) I only got during the first 3 or maybe 4 times running Wp Bench.
Nevertheless, the usage of my device has no lags at all, even when WP Bench shows a slow storage speed.
So, I think that this odd speed variation is due to a WP Bench´s issue or, even if it doesn´t has an issue, the way that WP7 manages the device´s memory is causing this odd behavior on WP Bench´s speed results.

What I do see - and I've seen others post about it as well is that when you download large apps (Fruit Ninja, Star Wars game, etc), the phone grinds to a halt. I didn't have to pull the battery, but I did have to do a power-off/on. I noticed that leaving the phone in the download screen helps - takes a looooong time to download but it does eventually finish.
Don't know if DVP firmware or Mango or something else is needed to address this.
I do have 14 of 32 filled.

kartbart said:
What I do see - and I've seen others post about it as well is that when you download large apps (Fruit Ninja, Star Wars game, etc), the phone grinds to a halt. I didn't have to pull the battery, but I did have to do a power-off/on. I noticed that leaving the phone in the download screen helps - takes a looooong time to download but it does eventually finish.
Don't know if DVP firmware or Mango or something else is needed to address this.
I do have 14 of 32 filled.
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It seems that you´re having a microsd card incompability with your device. Check this thread below where I have recommended a microsd card that doesn´t present any incompability issues like slowness, auto-resets and data loss.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834144&page=103

Here's the test results for my custom 32gb DVP w/ FW 212 & Mango 7712
CPU
sequential: 8251 ms (improved from 11055)
parallel: 7792 ms (improved from 10400)
DATA @ 0.8 MB
memory: 13.07 MB/s (same)
storage: 13.07 MB/s (improved from 3.27?!)
GPU
23 avg FPS (same)
Looks like either the new mango or the new FW really boosted my cpu and data/storage scores... anybody else care to share results? I'm interested to see what improved with just the new FW, so if somebody can run the test on NoDo w/ and w/o the new FW that'd be great.

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SD writes faster than it reads?

Hi. I've benchmarked my class 2 SD card with several different benchmark programs (both android and pc) and they all return the same result: read - 1.5 mb/s and write - 5 mb/s. Is this normal?
You might be experiencing what is called write caching.
This would lead to display of higher speeds with small amounts of data.
Try copying a large file - 2GB or more, for instance - and you will see that it will stabilize around your actual write speed at some point. It might still be 5MB/s as the Class 2 of your SD card guarantees minimum speeds, not maximum

[POLL] Which microSD card works best for you?

With all of the vast information over numerous pages of peoples experiences with different cards, i thought i would make a poll which should give us a very good indication of the card most likely to work.
This is NOT an indication of a card that WILL work, as many of you know. This will provide you with a statistical outlook on which card is more likely to be a success.
So, please choose the card you have had the most successs with.
And please feel free to have a conversation in the thread about your experiences, we need this to remain at the top of the forum.
If a moderator could lock it at the top that would be great!
**I Hope i have added the most common ones, if yours isnt listed, please state it below.**
wow, no ones voted, thought this might be a good idea... but apparently not.
Fair enough, was worth a try.
give it a chance, thats the first i saw this, you must have posted it at a busy time of day and it shot off the screen
Probably worth printing in BIG BOLD LETTERS
that this doesnt give an indication of a card deffinitely working, thats my biggest gripe with the other thread, "Confirmed" my arse
Not to be a nag, but, could part numbers be listed for these cards? It makes it much easier to find the particular card that may work rather than just a 8gb class 2 sandisk, of which there may be 2 or 3 different part numbers.
Can anyone please tell me how to know class of the sd card?
and which one comes with hd2 originally?
The Class number it printed on the front with a circle around it.
I also have pretty conclusive evidence that the Crystal mark program is a bit useless at determining if a card will work.
First of all i was a bit skeptical because a card which worked, was apparently slower than a card that didnt work.
I have Benchmarked the results of the SAME CARD ( Sandisk 8GB Class 2) on two different readers.
1. (the card reader inside my computer, microsd inside a SD card adapter) Gives me;
Code:
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CrystalDiskMark 3.0.1 x64 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]
Sequential Read : 4.814 MB/s
Sequential Write : 5.657 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 4.800 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 1.551 MB/s
Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 2.705 MB/s [ 660.5 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 1.488 MB/s [ 363.3 IOPS]
Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 2.402 MB/s [ 586.5 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 0.780 MB/s [ 190.4 IOPS]
Test : 50 MB [F: 0.1% (5.0/7572.0 MB)] (x1)
Date : 2011/08/16 12:52:48
OS : Windows 7 Ultimate Edition SP1 [6.1 Build 7601] (x64)
2. And the USB card reader dongle that came with the card
Code:
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CrystalDiskMark 3.0.1 x64 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]
Sequential Read : 20.049 MB/s
Sequential Write : 6.554 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 19.448 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 1.228 MB/s
Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 3.907 MB/s [ 954.0 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 0.471 MB/s [ 115.0 IOPS]
Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 3.714 MB/s [ 906.8 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 0.276 MB/s [ 67.4 IOPS]
Test : 50 MB [F: 0.1% (5.0/7572.0 MB)] (x1)
Date : 2011/08/16 12:53:32
OS : Windows 7 Ultimate Edition SP1 [6.1 Build 7601] (x64)
As you can see the speeds vary by a huge amount. Havent had the chance to test this card out on my phone yet.
Just flashing a clean rom at the moment, before i insert a new card (which everyone should do!)
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Can anyone give some feedback about this card?
Thanks!
actually, i know we were talking before about this, could you try the card attached to the phone its self
what your saying actually makes perfect sense, connecting a card to reader is essentially adding a different layer of hardware/protocols between the computer and the card, different "readers" may employ different tech which may in turn effect performance
I wonder what the results of your card would be attached to the phone itsself and connected to a hard USB port (not an external HUB) that way we would be using the same reader. All the cards ive tested for IOPS still appear to show that random reads / writes need to be +600 / +20 IOPS, lower than that and they become unstable
Mass13 said:
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Can anyone give some feedback about this card?
Thanks!
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What feedback do you want on it? It may or it maynot work, i would be carefull before forking out that much money! Go for a smaller card, then if it doesnt work, you can buy another one... my advice anyway
dazza9075 said:
actually, i know we were talking before about this, could you try the card attached to the phone its self
what your saying actually makes perfect sense, connecting a card to reader is essentially adding a different layer of hardware/protocols between the computer and the card, different "readers" may employ different tech which may in turn effect performance
I wonder what the results of your card would be attached to the phone itsself and connected to a hard USB port (not an external HUB) that way we would be using the same reader. All the cards ive tested for IOPS still appear to show that random reads / writes need to be +600 / +20 IOPS, lower than that and they become unstable
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Yea i was thinking the same. Ive just tried doing exactly that (there is only 200mb viewable) and it gives me a write error.
stevemilw said:
Yea i was thinking the same. Ive just tried doing exactly that (there is only 200mb viewable) and it gives me a write error.
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intresting, have you tried android to gain access to the card, dont know why it does that, works fine here, unless again there is some thing we are not seeing at a low level that effects cards.

Slow internal /sdcard write speeds ?

I just tested our TF101 with "sd card tester" and the write speeds are really slow - 2.24 MB/s for a 472MB test file while the read is pretty decent - 12.09 MB/s. Compared with my new Kingmax MicroSD Class 6 doing :
read speed - 9.89 MB/s average
write speed - 10.81 MB/s average
How's it possible that the write speed is so incredibly slow? Could anyone test it out with the "sd card tester" app from the Android Market and let me know?
i got 9.59 write speed and 11.54 read speed
damn...
the internal memory is so slow at writing..
i use a cache of 3072 with 300mb test file lenght
internal sd card:
write 2.68 mb/s
read 19.97 mb/s
class 6 external card
write 10.44 mb/s
read 18.66 mb/s
Internal
Write 8.18
Read 16.07
External 8Gb MicroSDHC class4
Write 43.77
Read 43.29
FullSD Panasonic HighSpeed
Write 31.7
Read043.78
FWIW my write to internal SD was ~5 mb/s initially. I freed up about 6 gigs space by deleting some video content and it improved to close to 9 mb/s.
Those with > 5mb write speed, are you guys on custom or stock rom?
also guys please try it on a larger test file like > 2gb if you have the space or as much as you can, the results would be more accurate. using a small test file i could get around 9mb too

[Q] Recommended SD transffers

Hi. If your WP7 installs and runs apps correctly, then could you please make a WPBench data test on 5MB and tell me your storage transfer please?
Mine is 3.5MB/s and it takes about 10 minutes to install 10MB app.
kubekpop said:
Hi. If your WP7 installs and runs apps correctly, then could you please make a WPBench data test on 5MB and tell me your storage transfer please?
Mine is 3.5MB/s and it takes about 10 minutes to install 10MB app.
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your card is too slow... from my experience all below 5 MB/s is slow and make too much problems and "hiccups"
for my Sandisk 32GB Class 2 transfer rate is around 8 MB/s
Will SanDisk's 16GB class10 (already ordered) be better? And why this one is so slow?

Kingston microSDXC UHS-I U3 too slow as the internal memory?

I noticed little issue with my brand new Moto X Play (upgraded to Android 6.0). I bought sd card Kingston microSDXC 64 GB UHS-I U3 90 MB/s read and 80 MB/s write, put to device and formatted as internal memory. After successful formatting phone displays popup: "Card is too slow". I did benchmark (A1 SD Bench). Results: Read about 20 MB/s and Write about 15 MB/s. The strange thing is that I do not feel any lag when I launching app installed on sd card (it launches nearly in the same time as from phone internal storage). Has anyone had a similar problem?
Kubasagan07 said:
I noticed little issue with my brand new Moto X Play (upgraded to Android 6.0). I bought sd card Kingston microSDXC 64 GB UHS-I U3 90 MB/s read and 80 MB/s write, put to device and formatted as internal memory. After successful formatting phone displays popup: "Card is too slow". I did benchmark (A1 SD Bench). Results: Read about 20 MB/s and Write about 15 MB/s. The strange thing is that I do not feel any lag when I launching app installed on sd card (it launches nearly in the same time as from phone internal storage). Has anyone had a similar problem?
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I experienced the same thing with my phone. After formatting my new strontium 64 gb uhs 1 card for internal show, it displayed the 'card too slow" message. After running the benchmark test, I got around 25mbps read and 14 mbps write speed.
Planning to return the card. How has your experience been so far using this card?

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