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the g1 is a phone. and a music player. talk about this.

hey i know the whole OMG APPS2SD WE HAVE ROOT thing is big around here. but i dont have use for apps2sd at all. i have 14 apps and i change firmware like 9001 times a day when something new comes out. but i have 2gigs of OGG music files. and every firmware i have used ends up bugging out when im playing music and i get a notifacation with the usb headphone adapter connected. could we get a firmware optimized for music and enjoying it instead of showing off our rooted phones with no real use behind it. redirect this post if you need to. i know the whole "WRONG FORUM TOPIC LOCKED" thing happens alot here.

you can try the getting the EQ mod or the Max volume mod as well

would there be any use in me attempting to set up the sdk and pulling an all nighter to learn how to make my own NON BLEEDING EDGE but very stable release? cuz i would love to just have a stable phone with every volume thing and EQ pre installed. and that pesky sound service bug, dats gotta get fixed.

navdroid said:
would there be any use in me attempting to set up the sdk and pulling an all nighter to learn how to make my own NON BLEEDING EDGE but very stable release?
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kinda answered your own question there didnt you?
navdroid said:
cuz i would love to just have a stable phone with every volume thing and EQ pre installed. and that pesky sound service bug, dats gotta get fixed.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517745
has preinstalled max volume, also a selection of the roms

You don't need the sdk to use the audio mods. Read a little bit more, and you will discover that you can use lucidrem's script to download the the audio mods without a pc. It takes a little patience,some time, and using the terminal. But it is easy if you follow the instructions. Also the developer of the audio mods also has several custom roms with the mods built in.
Edit. If you want a stable Rom use jf1.51, thedudes 1.2b you can add the audio mod on top of the using the bat files that comes with the audio mods

i'll try out *** - JF1.51 CRB43 US with V2 then. im used to using the terminal, its not a problem to mod my own, but being able to just quickly flash my phone back is too tempting. and @ubernicholi, i was meaning the sdk to build my own firmware as a whole. i assume its going to take me a while to understand why this whole multiple firmware bidness is a good thing, when its basicly taking all the newest unsupported code from the tree, and applying it and modifying it for the Dream handset, and in doing so, giving it 3rd party support. like downloading windows xp black pirate edition on TPB, to me its useless. ahhh the beauty of open source ^__^

why not go back to stock? it's not bleeding edge and it'll play your music just fine.
theres no shame in that.
wait. no, no...there is shame. terrible, terrible amounts of shame.

yea, but then i cant use debian. which is pretty cool so far.

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you need to go to bed

lol I apologize I couldn't resist. So if a music centric build is what you are looking for, then it would be possible to strip out a lot of unnecessary features. First off, I think Google sync which is constantly running in the background can be taken out. Applications that are constantly refreshing, such as Mail can be removed. I understand you have apps to SD currently installed. Try internalizing the Music.apk, moving it back into the faster more reliable internal memory. Moreover, a good place to start I believe would be with the Google Ion build, which is lightning fast.

if i knew how to do that, i would slim down a stock JF update.

I think you should start out by flashing to Google Ion. Then, using ADB on your computer, enter ADB shell and being to manually remove the unnecessary applications. Whatever you don't need, take it out. As for Google sync, go to settings and disable it. Also in settings, disable notifications. At a point, you can even just turn off the radio and switch to airplane mode. That way no other services are running and you can listen to music uninterrupted, at the cost of not being able to accept calls.

wow, thanks for the support. i was looking at ION and thinking that it would be perfect. but im not really sure how to set up the development on fedora 11.

navdroid said:
wow, thanks for the support. i was looking at ION and thinking that it would be perfect. but im not really sure how to set up the development on fedora 11.
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Ion FTW.
You set it up the same as you do on any other distro...
and...
what do you honestly do with debian on your phone?

As in on your computer? Are you running Linux or any operating system based on Linux? If so, unfortunately I can't help you there, I mostly use Windows and occasionally Wubi ):
(In all honesty I have very little knowledge when it comes to running Linux on a computer, so sorry about that haha)
I forgot to add, maybe increase your processor clock speed to 528Mhz. Look for an app called SetCPU. It is here on the forums for free, as the creator is among us or alternatively download it from the market, however it is a paid app on their.

if u use ion use R1 its faster than R2 in my opinion

i use um that overclock widget, i love that thing, works so well. umm. debian on my phone is pretty cool. it has potential. umm i might set this up and get a small release with just my name and roadmap on it.

navdroid said:
i use um that overclock widget, i love that thing, works so well. umm. debian on my phone is pretty cool. it has potential. umm i might set this up and get a small release with just my name and roadmap on it.
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Hmm.. looking at your signature, overclocking your PC, and even getting Debian to work in the first place, I think you are definitely capable and very experienced. Best of luck to you
Let us know if you are able to get that stripped down version of Google Ion working. I would do it, but I don't know how to resign updates and I just finally settled down on Haykuro 6.0.1 after a ROM struggle between JAC's Hero, TwistedUmbrella's Hero and JF1.51 where I was flashing a new ROM on a daily basis.

my only thing is my work ethic and lack of programming experiance. if anyone could help me get started. hell, i might actually post something in the android development outlining the project goals and stuff like that.

[APP] StegDroid Alpha v 0.75

Hi guys/gals
I'm working on this app for my final year dissertation. It performs Echo Steganography on wave files. My app uses this to encode short text messages in an audio file, then share it. I've just got the Steg side of things working, so I wanted to get some early feedback on whether it works for other people (and if it's awfully slow - it uses a lot of Fourier Transforms etc...).
This is very early days, so the app isn't anything like ready for primetime yet, but the basics are in place. I'd really appreciate it if you could download it and:
* Have a go at embedding some text in a recording and seeing if it correctly extracts it again.
* Run the tests available in the menu
* Email me one of your recordings (tfmw2 [at] cam [dot] ac [dot] uk) to see if I can extract the data on my phone.
* Supports encryption with a shared key
* Transcodes audio files to ogg format for sharing
Updates (0.75)
* Added Multicasting of messages to contact groups
* Fixed bug with sharing files in paranoid mode
* Better memory management, should work more reliably with longer messages
* Reduced error rate (less garbled messages)
* Reduced file size by 33%
* Other bug fixes
Any problems let me know!
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I'm not sure what this does =\

The app records a file from the microphone and embeds a secret message into it. You can send that file to someone, and if they've got the same app they can extract the secret message from the audio file. Anyone listening to the audio file wouldn't be able to tell that it's got a message hidden in it, as the difference is hard to distinguish with the human ear.

I've uploaded a new version, it's a bit more stable and a bit easier to use!

Interesting, maybe we can team up this will be an interesting feature for my project

Works pretty well, cool idea too!
I was able to make it fail though by using a long jumble of letters (I screenshotted before and after to compare) but it still only got about 5 wrong (little diamond with a ? In the middle).
Nice work!
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

Thanks Meltus
Could you let me know the length of the string. Were the wrong characters at the end or distributed throughout? What kind of audio input were you testing with (voice message, background noise, music etc.)?

Update
Now supports basic crypto. Run tests from the menu before you start to check the crypto test passes (if it doesn't, let me know!).

fredley said:
Thanks Meltus
Could you let me know the length of the string. Were the wrong characters at the end or distributed throughout? What kind of audio input were you testing with (voice message, background noise, music etc.)?
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Length of the string was about 30 characters, the wrong characters were distributed and were just regular letters.
As for the audio it was just me tapping on the mic for about 20 secs.
I've been doing more tests too and it only seems to occur when you have a few repeating characters. I typed out the keyboard lines and it got it correct, until i started repeating every other character a few times, then it started to get a few wrong.

Meltus said:
Length of the string was about 30 characters, the wrong characters were distributed and were just regular letters.
As for the audio it was just me tapping on the mic for about 20 secs.
I've been doing more tests too and it only seems to occur when you have a few repeating characters. I typed out the keyboard lines and it got it correct, until i started repeating every other character a few times, then it started to get a few wrong.
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That's strange! The embedding works bit-by-bit, rather than byte-by-byte, so it's very strange that repeated chars should cause an issue. I'll look into it though. Did you try the same test with continuous sound, such as music? I'll see if I can replicate it here. What hardware/android version are you using?

Are you using a set algorithm to code messages and decode them? Or does it shift from how long the coded message is to the non-coded message? This is an interesting app that could serve a lot of uses, excellent idea! Hopefully this is seen all the way through to "perfection", its a keeper.
I will be watching this blog closely and will test the app. Cant wait until its totally complete.
--CueSA

fredley said:
That's strange! The embedding works bit-by-bit, rather than byte-by-byte, so it's very strange that repeated chars should cause an issue. I'll look into it though. Did you try the same test with continuous sound, such as music? I'll see if I can replicate it here. What hardware/android version are you using?
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I'm using a Nexus One with 2.3.
I didn't try it with other types of sound so it's not the most accurate of tests, but i'll have another go today.

I've had some issues with occasional chars being wrong, I may put in some kind of CRC, but I don't think it's that serious. It may have something to do with various microphones and their sensitivity.
In other news, now upgraded to version 0.4, which converts encoded files to ogg format, and can extract messages from ogg files too! (would be a bit silly if it didn't). Files are ~90% smaller as a result!

I could see an RDS type implementation or advertising uses that would let you encode whatever data you wanted in the audio if the mobile app did something like SoundHound where you could have it listen for the message. If you could create a background app that listened for any messages and alerted when heard, without totally draining the battery, I could see implementations with nielsen ratings showing accurately what you saw and when.

ledridge said:
I could see an RDS type implementation or advertising uses that would let you encode whatever data you wanted in the audio if the mobile app did something like SoundHound where you could have it listen for the message. If you could create a background app that listened for any messages and alerted when heard, without totally draining the battery, I could see implementations with nielsen ratings showing accurately what you saw and when.
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I believe this tech (or at least, steganography in general) is already used to watermark copyrighted material, in some cases uniquely. Authorities can then look at an illegally shared file and trace its origin or something like that. Certainly it's possible.

Just updated the version on the market, now integrates much better with email apps/file managers. Let me know if you can't launch StegDroid from your favourite app!

Make sure that your app stays your app. Many universities are after students' apps.
posted via the xda app with my Evo

Ha, it's ok, I signed away any rights I had to this app when I joined this course 3 years ago. It'll remain free and be properly open-sourced though.

you're famous OP
http://mobilitydigest.com/is-that-a-txt-in-your-ogg/

Thanks for finding that!

Will Lollipop save my Moto X?

I've been using the Moto X for a few days now and getting increasingly frustrated with it because Motorola have removed/changed features in their not so "Pure Android" build.
At this point I've already requested Motorola to arrange a return.
My main gripes are 2 features that I used daily:
1. They appear to have removed internet calling from the dialer, I can no longer receive calls on my business SIP line without third party software.
2. The equaliser doesn't work with bluetooth headphones. This device actually makes Beats Studio Wireless headphones sound tinny. I've tried a couple of the "top rated' EQ apps but the Moto X still sounds inferior to the Nexus 5.
Could anyone with Lollipop possibly confirm if either of these standard features on a Nexus device are available in Moto X Lollipop?

Internet dialer is a nexus exclusive. Not sure about the equalizer on Bluetooth.
Have you tried side loading the nexus dialer? I believe there is a thread in the themes and apps section.
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Google Dialer

I thing this is not a dialer issue. If you're rooted, unzip attached file and put it into the system/etc/permissions. Than change permissions of the file to rw-r-r. Find internet calling in your dialer menu and set credentials. If you succeed please leave the observations. Especially how the voice sound on the other end (possible distortion or echo).

svtfmook said:
Internet dialer is a nexus exclusive. Not sure about the equalizer on Bluetooth.
Have you tried side loading the nexus dialer? I believe there is a thread in the themes and apps section.
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This is a bit of an improvement from the default dialer, you get the caller id stuff but no internet calling.

piskr said:
I thing this is not a dialer issue. If you're rooted, unzip attached file and put it into the system/etc/permissions. Than change permissions of the file to rw-r-r. Find internet calling in your dialer menu and set credentials. If you succeed please leave the observations. Especially how the voice sound on the other end (possible distortion or echo).
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I'll give this a try later and see if it works, fingers crossed as carrying 3 phones around is a massive pain!

Im on lollipop. Don't see SIP options in dialer. Google voice is an option for internet calking ,as its integrated into hangouts now.
As far as EQ, stock one doesn't do Bluetooth but I'm using this eq which does
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smartandroidapps.equalizer

#2
Ive been having similar issues with my audio out, either in my car or with my headphones. The max output is considerably lower than my HTC 8X and overall i found it to be kind of flat even with a good EQ. Ive tried over 10 different EQ including using a local player like Poweramp that has good controls but it doesnt make any real difference.
Ive actually found a benchmark for audio out and it does seem that this phone is being held back. Music is a big part of the use for my phone so if i cant get it right I may also return mine. I have been doing some reading and it sounds like ViPER4ANDROID may fix the problem but you will have to root your device. Ive never done that before but XDA has a ton of very helpful resources so I am consider trying it.
the benchmark can be found over at Phone Arena, sorry im not able to post the link since im still a new user.
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There's a workaround for native SIP here for moto g, i think it would work for moto x 2014,too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/general/mod-enable-native-sip-voip-calls-t2826500

I'm just waiting for Faux123 kernel once stable Lollipop is released

MyMotoXhummm said:
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Ive been having similar issues with my audio out, either in my car or with my headphones. The max output is considerably lower than my HTC 8X and overall i found it to be kind of flat even with a good EQ. Ive tried over 10 different EQ including using a local player like Poweramp that has good controls but it doesnt make any real difference.
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I thought the DAC was part of the the snapdragon 801 processor, both the M8 and moto x have the same 801

I've been quite busy and haven't had a chance to try any of the suggested solutions yet, but I need to send the phone back now so will try and check them out before I do.
The phone has grown on me and if it wasn't for the fact I just ordered another X on the Cyber Monday deal for £100 cheaper I would have kept it after all.

Have you been able to test the mod for SIP VoIP? I'm also missing this feature coming from my Nexus...
PS
Merry Christmas!

The lack of Bluetooth Audio EQ is pretty frustrating, I agree. I will try Viper4Android eventually but I worry that it might bypass the dedicated audio chipset, significantly increasing battery drain.

It's even worse with Lollipop, I was using Bass Booster Pro which worked great on Kitkat but is non-functional on Lollipop...
I've been using my Nexus 5 for listening to music as the Moto X fails miserably in this area.

I followed the instructions in this Moto G thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/general/mod-enable-native-sip-voip-calls-t2826500
and it unleashed the SIP VoIP features on my XT1095 a la Nexus!
I have successfully registered and dialed using my voip.ms account (too late to actually connect and talk... will do so in the morning). Note that the option dialog actually shows both the cellular operator by name as well as my voip.ms username for selection rather than just the Nexus generic options.
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I've been using the Moto X for a few days now and getting increasingly frustrated with it because Motorola have removed/changed features in their not so "Pure Android" build.
At this point I've already requested Motorola to arrange a return.
My main gripes are 2 features that I used daily:
1. They appear to have removed internet calling from the dialer, I can no longer receive calls on my business SIP line without third party software.
2. The equaliser doesn't work with bluetooth headphones. This device actually makes Beats Studio Wireless headphones sound tinny. I've tried a couple of the "top rated' EQ apps but the Moto X still sounds inferior to the Nexus 5.
Could anyone with Lollipop possibly confirm if either of these standard features on a Nexus device are available in Moto X Lollipop?
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[Development] Reverse camera app with 360 view

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I've noticed that these things are becoming popular and I thought why not make one for my Android head unit?
(I have Intel Sofila 3GR variant)
After doing some research in Computer Vision and hacking UIServer app, I'm happy to announce that it works
You can see a live demo in my youtube channel - https://youtu.be/bRYOB4MqHmo
The solution is software only:
1. it uses a computer vision algorithm that I've created that changes the perspective of the rear camera to top view.
2. A simple, analog, 480TVL video camera is enough for this algorithm! which means no hardware mods are needed!
3. An initial calibration process per camera per car is needed (usually takes 5-10 minutes)
4. In addition to the top, 360 view, it also undistorts fisheye lens!
It translates rear camera view:
into top camera view, with a memory of previously seen space:
Hope to release the app when it will be steady enough.
Until then, I've ordered a PX5 CPU based Android for better performance.

Looks promising!

Not bad. Keep going and updating.

thanks!
I've did some retouches, now it looks even better - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzpn0ROKkX8

What's the CPU load like when that's running ? I presume you have added the usual heatsinks & fan to your Joying ?

All original hardware, no extra heatsinks (its 20-5 Celsius out here right now).
It runs 2 threads at full speed so it takes like 50% cpu load (100% for each thread that runs on an individual core).

Holy f**k this looks amazing. I would love to try it out (got a joying PX5 unit).

This is awesome ! Any release soon ? even if it's beta

You will have the self driving car manufacturers paying you billions for this soon ?

can't wait to try this!

any updates on this?

I have "Joying SC9853i",
would be nice to try this app !!
hope you will release it for Joying SC9853i !!

Hi, sorry for not updating for a while, it's not easy to find free nights for that project.
I've stabilized the code a bit but it still isn't good enough for releasing it - it jerks when reversing too fast and my analog backup camera has a very poor and noisy quality which doesn't help either.
Another issue I'm facing is that in order to listen to reverse gear interrupt I have to do dedicated reverse engineering for each model which isn't trivial.
What I do have and will update soon is more videos, I've added a feature for recording the top view perspective. It does work perfectly in many scenarios and even OFF ROAD! which is very cool!

ValkA said:
Hi, sorry for not updating for a while, it's not easy to find free nights for that project.
I've stabilized the code a bit but it still isn't good enough for releasing it - it jerks when reversing too fast and my analog backup camera has a very poor and noisy quality which doesn't help either.
Another issue I'm facing is that in order to listen to reverse gear interrupt I have to do dedicated reverse engineering for each model which isn't trivial.
What I do have and will update soon is more videos, I've added a feature for recording these cool top view perspective. It does work perfectly in many scenarios and even OFF ROAD! which is very cool!
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Is your joying active cooled? may help with the jerking.
Why listen for the reverse and not just use it as an app first, and listen for that intent later?
Can't wait to see those video's! subscribed to your youtube

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Is your joying active cooled? may help with the jerking.
Why listen for the reverse and not just use it as an app first, and listen for that intent later?
Can't wait to see those video's! subscribed to your youtube
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Thanks
1. I want it to be automatically - as soon as I hit reverse gear I want to see that top view (and that's what we have now ).
2. not only this interrupt needs special treatment per different MCU model, but also getting the video feed is not always trivial. Those Chinese manufacturers aren't using Android HALs as they should be using. That means - I can't just open an android Camera view and see the reverse camera (in Joying luckily it is like that, but in others like ALLWINNER its sucks, need to hack into some process and send it a proprietary IPC message)
3. I haven't modded it for cooling but it has some fan in there. I'm in a hot country (32 celsius easy) so it might worth a try because sometimes FPS is high and sometimes very low without any good reason.

ValkA said:
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1. I want it to be automatically - as soon as I hit reverse gear I want to see that top view (and that's what we have now ).
2. not only this interrupt needs special treatment per different MCU model, but also getting the video feed is not always trivial. Those Chinese manufacturers aren't using Android HALs as they should be using. That means - I can't just open an android Camera view and see the reverse camera (in Joying luckily it is like that, but in others like ALLWINNER its sucks, need to hack into some process and send it a proprietary IPC message)
3. I haven't modded it for cooling but it has some fan in there. I'm in a hot country (32 celsius easy) so it might worth a try because sometimes FPS is high and sometimes very low without any good reason.
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2: I'm running this rom but can't see the reverse camera on my device unless I supply power to the "back" wire.. So I'm curious if it would work with mine.
3. I've got a joying single DIN and it just overheats on the regular (Dutch weather, so not that hot) and it thermal throttles a lot or just shuts off/boot loops because of it, and I've ordered a cooling kit online.. so it's likely

pafo42 said:
2: I'm running this rom but can't see the reverse camera on my device unless I supply power to the "back" wire.. So I'm curious if it would work with mine.
3. I've got a joying single DIN and it just overheats on the regular (Dutch weather, so not that hot) and it thermal throttles a lot or just shuts off/boot loops because of it, and I've ordered a cooling kit online.. so it's likely
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2. same on mine.

Truly a beautiful project !!
I hope you will soon be able to have a working version that you can share.
Thank's for your job!!

will this work on a PX5 dasaita unit?

dominicanodcora said:
will this work on a PX5 dasaita unit?
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Right now I'm ordering a PX5. I believe it will have superior performance

OPPO Watch International Version

Hey Guys,
Just bought an OPPO Watch, Australia Wear OS.
For me at least the watch is pretty good, Still needs some software/firmware development but very fast and for me the battery lasts two days easily.
Couple of observations that others may be able to help with or ideas.
After watching several YouTube videos there appears to be (on the Chinese version) about 3 times more watch faces available. Only seems to be about 13 available to me on the international version. And they are not very practical faces.
Also the Chinese version seems to come with an app called "App Market" where you can download apps (and faces) specific to the oppo watch. A bit like Samsung watches. This app is nowhere to be found on my OPPO Watch.
It has a few quirks, The inbuilt timer (which is a direct visual copy of Apple watch) gives no audio notification when finished if you are wearing the watch. However if you are not wearing it then there is an Audio notification(very strange).
Anyway maybe others will engage in this discussion.
Cheers
Chris

I have already my 2nd Oppo Watch and it suffers from a screen burned-in issue. If you enable the Always-On-Display, after few hours you can see the ghost image:
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You can clearly see in the background the "X" coming from the one of the default Oppo watchfaces.
I have reported it to the customer care in Poland, they've sent me a new one with the same issue:
After reporting it back, they did some test on multiple other parts and proved the issue is there on all of them and it's unsolvable. It looks like Oppo released an untested product with a major screen issue. Only thing they offered me is the money back...

Burn in is not good! Wait for next generation....

Thats really bad. Surly we got over the screen burning issues with devices back in the days of plazma TVs. My very First Apple Watch original had the same burn in problem, however that seemed to be fixed with a firmware update.
Fortunately its not really a problem for me. I am not a fan of always on displays , and never use them on Watches or phones.

^^ yes, I understand that the screen burn in is something that must happen after some time (like months) of usage, but not after few hours!
Anyway, I fully agree with you - when you don't use AOD, you probably won't have this issue. Moreover, if you turn the screen off completely for few hours (for example overnight) then the ghost image is gone. It's back again after about 2-3 h of AOD.
I hope to get this fixed by FW update instead of money back.

Oppo just confirmed the issue and they will be rolling out an update this week that is supposed to minimise this issue. We will see...

kicikk said:
Oppo just confirmed the issue and they will be rolling out an update this week that is supposed to minimise this issue. We will see...
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Hopefully any update will also fix the issues I raised in my first post. Very limited number of watch faces available to international customers. And no access to the oppo app store.

I think the international version will never gain the access to the Oppo App Store, as this is only for the China Market. The Chinese model itself is not based on WearOS so they had to invent some substitute to the Google Play Store in order to allow users to download apps. Similar situation happened to Huawei when they had to remove Google Services.
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I have checked your issue with the timer and indeed - it behaves the same on mine. But if you don't like it, you can just install the Google one and this one works fine.

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I think the international version will never gain the access to the Oppo App Store, as this is only for the China Market. The Chinese model itself is not based on WearOS so they had to invent some substitute to the Google Play Store in order to allow users to download apps. Similar situation happened to Huawei when they had to remove Google Services.
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I have checked your issue with the timer and indeed - it behaves the same on mine. But if you don't like it, you can just install the Google one and this one works fine.
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The lack of the Oppo App store is probably not a big deal. Just that from videos I have seen they have access to some terrific watch faces (mostly copies of apple watch ones). As for the timer, glad to know you have the same problem. I too installed the Google one and works fine. I just think the inbuilt one is more elegant.
A great App to install for notifications is "Feel the Wear"

I have found another issue. This one with the clock. After 2-3 weeks the clock is showing time +1 minute, although it is getting the time from the phone all the time. The phone itself has correct time. To fix it you have to force the time synchronization (in the watch settings disable auto time and enable back).
Frankly speaking it's a bit ridiculous that the watch can't display the time properly...

So I got today the promised software update. Looks like they've replaced the AOD screen of the mentioned watch face with an AOD of another watch face (the one with animated "flower") so it doesn't display the X anymore. Additionally they've introduced small movement of the AOD screen every few mins so that not always the same pixels are used to display the content. This seems to have fixed the issue.
Btw., Chris, the issue with the timer is still there

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I have found another issue. This one with the clock. After 2-3 weeks the clock is showing time +1 minute, although it is getting the time from the phone all the time. The phone itself has correct time. To fix it you have to force the time synchronization (in the watch settings disable auto time and enable back).
Frankly speaking it's a bit ridiculous that the watch can't display the time properly...
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That is pretty bad. Although I don't think that time synchronization problem is exclusive to Oppo Watch. Years ago I had an LG android watch and it use to get out of sync with just about everything.
Fortunately I don't have the problem you describe on my Oppo Watch. I live in a border town where one side is on Daylight saving time and the other not, so I imagine the clock is synchronizing several times a day.