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Hello guys, yesterday i used the maps and it said i need to turn my 3g on i usually have it off. And when i press navigate it said i need to enable gps and i did. So my question is doesnt gps run without 3g or internet on other phones? And also i wana know does it use data?
because google maps requires an internet connection...
I all depends on which application you use for navigation.
Short answer:
Check with the software instrucions / help files to see how it behaves and works.
Long answer:
Some map software's have all the map data you need for your region already packed with it.
Advantage: No data need to be downloaded within the region, fast, works offline.
Disadvantage: Tricky to update the maps and often charge you for additional regions. Takes up space on the device.
Other apps download maps on the go as you navigate.
Advantage: Always the latest maps as you navigate. Takes less space on the device. Disadvantage: slow or even non-functional with poor or no data connection.
Google maps and Google navigation are of the latter one. They downloads maps as you navigate. therefor it is a good idea to have a data-plan with your provider so no additional expenses comes to.
They are free to use, so if you already have a data-plan with your provider, it's practically free.
On the X10, there are one application included by Sony Ericsson on most X10 sold out there: Wisepilot.
Wisepilot are the kind where you buy maps and download them into your phone, once this is done, it will use little or none of your data-connection.
I'm not sure, but I think Wisepilot are the kind that can be used offline once maps are bought and downloaded.
It can use the data-connection to download additional information such as "speed limit cameras", "spots of interest" and so on.
Try Mapdroid
This app downloads the MAP files when internet is available and can be used offline also with GPS activated..... try this, this is da best app
To US and Canadian Users
hey, when you use google navigation, will you be able to use the voice guidance??? I am having troubles to use the voice guidance...not sure how to activate it....
Having to buy the maps and such for wisepilot.. I wish there was a better solution for GPS on the x10. I wouldn't mind using it, but not necessary.
You can use GPS without 3G. I can even get a lock with my phone in airport mode and inside a cement building. When I say cement I mean cement, the floor, walls, and ceiling are all cement (hurricane proof). It is the third (top) floor however.
GPS software on x10
Currently I installed Navigon, Ndrive, MotoNave and Copilot 8 on my x10i with various world maps and all fully functional without 3g or network connection, direct data from satellite in orbit with the phone inbuild GPS receiver. Why you may ask? Because I can. How you may ask? The answers is out there! I am giving you the knowledge , now go and find your answers.
X10 is an Awsome device.
Another solution is to use the Brut Google Maps mod. It allows you to view previously viewed maps from the SD card. It saves the Google maps cache to your SD, but the only downside is that you have to view all of the places you want to travel on at all zoom levels.
If anyone needs it, I have the majority of Menorca done at all zoom levels......
I tend to use google navigation, the best bit of this is when you have your route downloaded and the voice guidance starts, you can then switch off your 3g and it still routes you. Obviously if you take a wrong turn it won't be able to download a new route until you switch 3g back on, but hey
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Wow really.. so I can use my phone's gps rather than my car's and I DON"T need 3g?? that's sweet..
Only too bad I don't know how to install any other GPS on my phone... I'm such a noob. Back to my magellans GPS .. ool
Anyone willing to go through the process with me ? haha
twentybenson said:
I tend to use google navigation, the best bit of this is when you have your route downloaded and the voice guidance starts, you can then switch off your 3g and it still routes you. Obviously if you take a wrong turn it won't be able to download a new route until you switch 3g back on, but hey
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do you mind to share how you activate the voice guidance??? I am having troubles activating this in my google navigation....
Sighx said:
Wow really.. so I can use my phone's gps rather than my car's and I DON"T need 3g?? that's sweet..
Only too bad I don't know how to install any other GPS on my phone... I'm such a noob. Back to my magellans GPS .. ool
Anyone willing to go through the process with me ? haha
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Use Google, i have Sygic with France, Spain, Andorra and Portugal maps up to date, included shops, hotels, restaurants, radars...
I repeat, use google and you will find out
oXunknownXo said:
Use Google, i have Sygic with France, Spain, Andorra and Portugal maps up to date, included shops, hotels, restaurants, radars...
I repeat, use google and you will find out
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I have searched Google. I live in Canada so I would need North American maps.. ha.. but however, I still don't get the installation process. I am not very computer literate as many of you guys are ):
njfpolyr6 said:
To US and Canadian Users
hey, when you use google navigation, will you be able to use the voice guidance??? I am having troubles to use the voice guidance...not sure how to activate it....
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It automatically did it on mine. On google map, tap on Direction. When you enter direction it will ask you to activate GPS (if not already activated).
RumpleStealthSkin said:
It automatically did it on mine. On google map, tap on Direction. When you enter direction it will ask you to activate GPS (if not already activated).
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the google navigation works fine, just there is no voice guidance... It only has the "beep" sound when it is about to change in direction (like make left/right turn, stay in the lane, or heading out to the exit) So I am wondering how to make it with turn by turn with voice guidance turn on...
iHim said:
Currently I installed Navigon, Ndrive, MotoNave and Copilot 8 on my x10i with various world maps and all fully functional without 3g or network connection, direct data from satellite in orbit with the phone inbuild GPS receiver. Why you may ask? Because I can. How you may ask? The answers is out there! I am giving you the knowledge , now go and find your answers.
X10 is an Awsome device.
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what nav app did u like the most out of those? i currently have motonav, its great but button presses are somewhat laggy. what do u reccomend?
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njfpolyr6 said:
the google navigation works fine, just there is no voice guidance... It only has the "beep" sound when it is about to change in direction (like make left/right turn, stay in the lane, or heading out to the exit) So I am wondering how to make it with turn by turn with voice guidance turn on...
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Try going to your phone Settings/Speech Synthesis/Install voice data...
If that doesn't work the I've no idea
Good luck!
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I like em all but the one I find myself using the most is Copilot 8 and yes you are right, button presses are laggy on Motonav. I travel all over the world with my job so these GPA apps are very handy to have on a single device.
Best device for my needs. Great apps, awesome GPS, great camera, storage space (16GB), 3G & wifi and movies.
twentybenson said:
Try going to your phone Settings/Speech Synthesis/Install voice data...
If that doesn't work the I've no idea
Good luck!
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Looks like i am out of luck. the "install voice data" optioned was dimmed out, and i wont be able to install it.....
I'm new to smart phones. The Atrix is my first one. I apologize for asking what may be a very trivial question, but I simply don't know much about apps and services and costs associated with them.
I'm interested in GPS navigation services that I can use with my phone. There is a default app on the Atrix called AT&T Navigation. Is this linked to the AT&T navigation service that costs $9.99 per month?
I don't want to spend a lot of money on a subscription because I don't need driving directions very often. Are there any navigation services that do not require a monthly subscription? Free would be ideal. A low cost per use might do. A monthly subscription service doesn't fit my needs.
Google maps
Just use the navigation app on there or the maps app
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StyleUkno said:
Just use the navigation app on there or the maps app
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well, i personally cant get the navigation app to lock on and work for the freaking life of me. not sure what the prolem is, it just stays loading forever, showing something like "accessing navigation services" or something similar.
my GPS test app does show me locking onto satelites and being accurate within about 16 or 17 feet though
oFUNGUSo said:
well, i personally cant get the navigation app to lock on and work for the freaking life of me. not sure what the prolem is, it just stays loading forever, showing something like "accessing navigation services" or something similar.
my GPS test app does show me locking onto satelites and being accurate within about 16 or 17 feet though
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Mine did that at first, then after reloading the app or rebooting, it worked. Not sure what it was looking for.
Gr8Danes said:
Mine did that at first, then after reloading the app or rebooting, it worked. Not sure what it was looking for.
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yeah i just tried it again.....and it loaded up right away but the app still didnt lock onto the gps for about 3 minutes
Are u using it with the wifi on or off. I use mine without the wife and im get locks quickly down to 2 meters. you could try that.
I used the Maps and got a lock within seconds and its showing location of where i'm at down to within 1 foot.
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Are u using it with the wifi on or off. I use mine without the wife and im get locks quickly down to 2 meters. you could try that.
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I prefer to use mine with the wife; it's more fun
oFUNGUSo said:
well, i personally cant get the navigation app to lock on and work for the freaking life of me. not sure what the prolem is, it just stays loading forever, showing something like "accessing navigation services" or something similar.
my GPS test app does show me locking onto satelites and being accurate within about 16 or 17 feet though
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Make sure you have the latest version of Maps (5.1 IIRC) from the market. I had the exact same issue but updating Maps fixed it.
AnyMal said:
I prefer to use mine with the wife; it's more fun
Make sure you have the latest version of Maps (5.1 IIRC) from the market. I had the exact same issue but updating Maps fixed it.
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HA! good call, it needed an update. i appreciate you!
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Make sure you have the latest version of Maps (5.1 IIRC) from the market.
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The first hint of an answer I can understand. From the above statement, I infer that Maps is an application that one can obtain from the market. I assume the Market icon that appears on my phone is what is referred to.
When I click on the Market icon, it directs me to create a Google account. Bummer. I'm not all that interested in creating multiple new accounts to use this phone (motoblur, google, what next?)
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The first hint of an answer I can understand. From the above statement, I infer that Maps is an application that one can obtain from the market. I assume the Market icon that appears on my phone is what is referred to.
When I click on the Market icon, it directs me to create a Google account. Bummer. I'm not all that interested in creating multiple new accounts to use this phone (motoblur, google, what next?)
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I am not sure why you're bothered by the need to create a Google account to fully utilize this phone. What's wrong with having a one-stop-shop for all your contacts, calendars, messages, app purchases? Having this account simplifies your life beyond what a PC can do for you since everything is stored in the "cloud", and should you choose to change your device once you'll log in to your new phone all that data will follow you automatically eliminating the need to ever connect your phone to a computer. Anyways, if you want to download apps from the Market you'll need a Google account, plain and simple.
What bothers me the most is the need for yet another account, payment method, and email address to keep track of. I already manage around two dozen personal email accounts and I have several ways to pay for services online. The more email addresses one has, the more spam one must deal with. The more payment methods one has, the more fraud risk one is exposed to.
Besides that, I don't want any contacts associated with an account I use for payments. It appears that I'll have to set up a google account so I can use the Android Market. I hope I can avoid having it disclosed to anyone else.
Do you not have a Gmail account that you use for email?
I do not currently have a Gmail account. But it appears I'm going to end up with one.
Yeah, but thats with any smartphone. You would need an account for the Apple App Store, Blackberry App World, etc. Nothing to be bummed about though
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I do not currently have a Gmail account. But it appears I'm going to end up with one.
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I felt the same way initially. Now with all my shi up on google's cloud I couldn't be happier.
Here is something to consider about the decision to have a google account.
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Anyone know if such a program exists and specifically for car navigation (unlike the offroad one currently on the market)? Kinda like Microsoft Streets & Trips but for Android. I am hoping to use my Xoom as a offline GPS since it is Wifi only model.
There are several. The cheapest is CoPilot. I have it as a backup for when I don't have data. The US only version is normally $4.99 (but I got it on sale for $2.99). I find it OK, but I prefer Google Maps Navigation.
Another is Navigon (it's quite a bit more expensive). A market seach should turn up some more.
Don't forget that Google Maps Navigation will cache the map and route for you . So you can start Navigating while you are in a WiFi hotspot and it will cache all of the maps to finish your navigation. Of course, if you get too far off route then you will have a problem.
rlrbjr said:
There are several. The cheapest is CoPilot. I have it as a backup for when I don't have data. The US only version is normally $4.99 (but I got it on sale for $2.99). I find it OK, but I prefer Google Maps Navigation.
Another is Navigon (it's quite a bit more expensive). A market seach should turn up some more.
Don't forget that Google Maps Navigation will cache the map and route for you . So you can start Navigating while you are in a WiFi hotspot and it will cache all of the maps to finish your navigation. Of course, if you get too far off route then you will have a problem.
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Yeah that's kinda what I'm worried about. I need this to be a 100% offline app with full stored maps. Also obviously to be compatible with the Xoom.
which phone do you have, you could enable your wifi hotspot using your 3G network. (I do it on my desire Z/G2)
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which phone do you have, you could enable your wifi hotspot using your 3G network. (I do it on my desire Z/G2)
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I have a Blackberry and has no option for Wifi or Bluetooth tethering. I can only do Dial-Up Networking but android doesn't support it as a client.
Have you tried Aura Sygic? if it works on XOOM and Honeycomb?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sygic.aura&feature=search_result
And you can find it for free on a site for Pirates.
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bd85 said:
Have you tried Aura Sygic? if it works on XOOM and Honeycomb?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sygic.aura&feature=search_result
And you can find it for free on a site for Pirates.
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I used Sygic back when I had a WinMo. Was a good app. I'll check this out.
Found several apps:
Aura GPS Navigation
MobileNavigator USA
Locus Free
CoPilot Live USA
NavDroyd
Anyone try any of these and know which works with the Xoom?
Anyone know how to get gps working on this without Wifi? Or a way we can download maps that work in google nav?
Envain said:
Anyone know how to get gps working on this without Wifi? Or a way we can download maps that work in google nav?
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I believe that you are required to have a wifi/data connection to use google navigation. You can cache that maps manually but I think this only provides you with the maps themselves, not navigation.
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I believe that you are required to have a wifi/data connection to use google navigation. You can cache that maps manually but I think this only provides you with the maps themselves, not navigation.
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Yeah been trying out the cache and that's really disappointing i was hoping to use it in my dash. they don't make it clear on their site that its required to have a data connection.
GPS works fine without WiFi. If you want to use navigation, start your route where u have a wifi connection. Or you can use a different app that has offline navigation
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For offline navigation I suggest navigon
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Problem with starting my route with wifi is for work i move around a lot from client to client, not always having a hotspot..that being said i was hoping to use this device without having to tether but it looks like for me thats my only option.
Envain said:
Problem with starting my route with wifi is for work i move around a lot from client to client, not always having a hotspot..that being said i was hoping to use this device without having to tether but it looks like for me thats my only option.
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Yes, for now, that would be one of your only options. Another option tho, use a different navigation app.
I keep reading everywhere that i should keep my gps off because it drains the battery very quick but im a little confused, if it turn it off then doing stuff like sharing my location on facebook, twitter, foursquare wouldnt work? if i make a check in foursquare for example it wont work if i have my gps off? or they use internet to track my location? can these applications turn on the gps by themselves or i have to turn it on by myself everytime?
In reality how much battery would be drained if i leave the gps on all the time?
Also i'm confused by google services i think they're a little redundant: Google navigation and google maps? can't you do the same "navigation" with google maps ? you can get into google navigation inside google maps but there's still a shortcut for navigation What's the difference?
Also you have local but it uses google maps and then you have latitude and earth which is basically the same but with a wrold map .
Can anyone enlighten me?
Chad_Petree said:
I keep reading everywhere that i should keep my gps off because it drains the battery very quick but im a little confused, if it turn it off then doing stuff like sharing my location on facebook, twitter, foursquare wouldnt work? if i make a check in foursquare for example it wont work if i have my gps off? or they use internet to track my location? can these applications turn on the gps by themselves or i have to turn it on by myself everytime?
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Locations can be determined from networks (either cell towers or wifi networks), just not as accurately or quickly.
Chad_Petree said:
Also i'm confused by google services i think they're a little redundant: Google navigation and google maps? can't you do the same "navigation" with google maps ? you can get into google navigation inside google maps but there's still a shortcut for navigation What's the difference?
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Navigation navigates. Sounds obvious, but it is different than just maps. Navigate gives turn-by-turn navigation. Maps is just maps. It finds stuff... including your location. And can show you a path from point A to point B.
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Also you have local but it uses google maps and then you have latitude and earth which is basically the same but with a wrold map .
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I thought latitude was more of a social check-in app.
I am no expert and am new to android, so someone may be better at explaining things.
Chris
Apps can't turn GPS on without asking you first / sending you to the settings to enable it. Like cmalinowski said, it still has ways of figuring out your general location.
Latitude is a social thing. I'm pretty sure about four people use it, all Google employees.
For navigation I use waze, and I used to use Foursquare instead of latitude.
Regarding your question, you must have the location services ON, in order to have all the features.
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Locations can be determined from networks (either cell towers or wifi networks), just not as accurately or quickly.
Navigation navigates. Sounds obvious, but it is different than just maps. Navigate gives turn-by-turn navigation. Maps is just maps. It finds stuff... including your location. And can show you a path from point A to point B.
I thought latitude was more of a social check-in app.
I am no expert and am new to android, so someone may be better at explaining things.
Chris
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Yeah for sure the location when i use just 3g is not very accurate, it says i'm in places like 2 km away
Navigations works only by car and by foot, no bus or subway directions right?
So a good example of how to use google services is use the maps to get the directions: lets say you take the subway and when you get off and start walking you switch to navigation so you know in which street/alley should you cross, right?
Ok so latitude is sort of a foursquare then?
calanizzle said:
For navigation I use waze, and I used to use Foursquare instead of latitude.
Regarding your question, you must have the location services ON, in order to have all the features.
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Yes i have the location services on but its kinda worthless because if you have the gps off they dont work at all or just work poorly
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Apps can't turn GPS on without asking you first / sending you to the settings to enable it. Like cmalinowski said, it still has ways of figuring out your general location.
Latitude is a social thing. I'm pretty sure about four people use it, all Google employees.
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Poor google, its a shame , just like google+, very pretty but no one uses it
i never turn my gps off. the big savings in battery is keeping the screen brightness down. the screen is so good that i can keep mine almost all the way down and it is still pretty bright.
I honestly don't think you have to worry about gps on off or other options... I have everything enabled, and i mean everything, all the time - and my battery easily lasts a day under moderate usage.
when im heavy using it, I admit i throw it on the usb charger to pc at work. but if i dont it will be around 6-10% by the evening.
it's irrelevant for me because i do charge it every night. ultra small price to pay for vast functionality that the phone offers.
they designed it in a way that if an app is not calling it then GPS is turned off automatically. there is really no reason (now) to keep GPS off. just leave it on and let Android decide if it is needed.
and the battery drain from Navigating with public transportation would leave the phone dead in an hour.
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wngmv said:
they designed it in a way that if an app is not calling it then GPS is turned off automatically. there is really no reason (now) to keep GPS off. just leave it on and let Android decide if it is needed.
and the battery drain from Navigating with public transportation would leave the phone dead in an hour.
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Ok i will keep my gps on then , yeah the battery MELTS with maps and/or navigation :crying: