A lot of roms say that they require clockwork recovery 3.0.0.6 to flash them. I know there's a way to flash it manually, but I personally want to wait until rom manager supports it. Is it absolutely necessary that 3.0.0.6 is there? I have 3.0.0.5, and i'm fine with switching between that and 2.5.1.2 in order to flash roms. Namely, i want to flash royalmint as it looks quite sick. quite sick indeed.
If you're willing to use 3.0.0.5 to flash Gingerbread ROMs and 2.5.x.x to flash Froyo ROMs, then it's not necessary. It's a whole lot easier to have one recovery though, obviously. ROM Manager does support 3.0.0.6 as far as managing backups, if that matters to you.
If your fine with re-flashing then not really. There are some fixes and code improvements but for the most part its up to you. but i'd suggest the 3.0.0.6 just for the convenience and i haven't heard of anyone reporting issues related to it. So as far as being safe id say its as safe and flashing back and forth to begin with. but don't do anything your uneasy about cuz if something does happen you are solely responsible.
If nothing else you could flash the newest version of 3.0.0.6 just so you don't have to flash "stock" recovery when you need/want to recondition/retrain your battery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1014554
Isn't there a problem with backup in 3.0.0.5? Either way, the maker of Rom Manager works with the CM team, so there are literally 20 phones out that they are trying to provide support for. It's not that they guy has seen the fixes/updates in 3.0.0.6 and decided they were wrong, he just has a lot on his plate. The improvement is worth it, for compatibility, if nothing else. Add in the ability to charge while off in the newest 3.0.0.6 and it is literally a one-stop recovery. Do what you like, you don't NEED it, then again you don't NEED custom ROMs, or cell phones, or forums. So I guess it's all relative, but it IS important for flashing and ensuring a calibrated battery.
kimbernator said:
A lot of roms say that they require clockwork recovery 3.0.0.6 to flash them. I know there's a way to flash it manually, but I personally want to wait until rom manager supports it. Is it absolutely necessary that 3.0.0.6 is there? I have 3.0.0.5, and i'm fine with switching between that and 2.5.1.2 in order to flash roms. Namely, i want to flash royalmint as it looks quite sick. quite sick indeed.
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You do not NEED the 3.0.0.6 but it does make life easier. If you don't mind re-flashing the images then more power to you.
3.0.0.6 makes life easy. Trust me. I flash backup and restore alot through diff builds.
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I love 3.0.0.6 and has made life a lot easier, but don't believe it is necessary. Have heard that some of the bootloop issues are from using 3.0.0.5, but don't know if that holds any salt. Some of the mods are not compatible with 3.0.0.6 though.
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ptran said:
I love 3.0.0.6 and has made life a lot easier, but don't believe it is necessary. Have heard that some of the bootloop issues are from using 3.0.0.5, but don't know if that holds any salt. Some of the mods are not compatible with 3.0.0.6 though.
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You're giving out bad information. As has been said over and over, 3.0.0.6 is absolutely necessary to flash both Froyo and Gingerbread ROMs, and there is NOTHING that it is not compatible with. With 3.0.0.6 installed, you can flash ANYTHING, which is why it's so highly recommended.
Not true. Some of the older mod scripts are not compatible with the newer clockwork recoveries (see faves to anything post by trueblue_drew) and thus will get a script error if you don't flash back prior to flashing it. Most mods will work, but NOT all.
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Not true. Some of the older mod scripts are not compatible with the newer clockwork recoveries (see faves to anything post by trueblue_drew) and thus will get a script error if you don't flash back prior to flashing it. Most mods will work, but NOT all.
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Please link to those mods so people are aware. So you're saying they work when flashed on 2.5.x.x but not 3.0.0.x?
Yes. I thought the same thing as you until I tried flashing an anything to mms favorites button this morning and then got the script error. Read through the post and found out why. Will post a link to the thread.
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forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885967&page=12
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forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885967&page=12
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For those that might want that, that's good to know, thanks. I still think that considering all factors, 3.0.0.6 is still the best overall recovery solution, but it's good to know that it doesn't work for 100% of flashable items.
Agreed. Flashing back and forth seems like a waste of time overall.
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Not true. Some of the older mod scripts are not compatible with the newer clockwork recoveries (see faves to anything post by trueblue_drew) and thus will get a script error if you don't flash back prior to flashing it. Most mods will work, but NOT all.
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And the devs for those mods only have to change the update script to an updater script. Its fairly easy to do, and is technically the right way to do things.
3.0.0.6 does not support flashing amend scripts. Google has moved to using Edify scripts, or updater-scripts. That is the only type of script that 3.0.0.6 will support.
and for those mods (that are not full ROMs and simply minor add-ons) you can select all clockwork recoveries, switch to 2.5.1.2, flash your amend script, reboot, all clockwork recoveries, 3.0.0.5, and you're back on 3.0.0.6. They are not (for the most part) game-changing situations where you find yourself in a bootloop and it is important to have a versatile recovery like 3.0.0.6. Most of the flashable fonts on XDA are amend scripts as well, so using that method is an easy workaround for cosmetic upgrades and other framework tweaks. You can make a mistake and put yourself in a bootloop flashing these things, but first timers and people struggling to understand what is important about the different recoveries are dealing with ROMs for the most part. If you are getting to the details with other mods, you should at least take the time to get to the details about ROM Manager and the differences in the available recoveries.
I had no clue that this forum had gotten bigger than an answer or two 0.o
Anyways, i have a couple of reasons for not flashing 3.0.0.6 manually. I'm still a bit of a noobie, i got my very first android phone on christmas and i have managed to flash multiple release candidates of cm7 since then. I haven't gained 100 percent confidence in my abilities yet. Also, the instructions say that flashing 3.0.0.5 in rom manager will flash 3.0.0.6, and 2.5.1.2 will flash stock recovery. It seems like if any newer recoveries were released it would be impossible to use rom manager to update it with the slightly different set up.
Also, i heard another guy say that having the phone boot in to recovery when plugged in to power could be a failsafe if the phone won't boot normally, so i'll stick with 3.0.0.5 until rom manager officially flashes 3.0.0.6 the easy way.
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Also, i heard another guy say that having the phone boot in to recovery when plugged in to power could be a failsafe if the phone won't boot normally, so i'll stick with 3.0.0.5 until rom manager officially flashes 3.0.0.6 the easy way.
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The original version of 3.0.0.6 in option94's thread also boots into recovery when plugged in.
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Hey All,
I have a super big problem >.<
I was trying to get clockworkmod recovery working on my phone and somehow it made me lose root access on CM6 and also I lost I lost my RA Recovery.
What do I do!?!?!
please help
PS: I still have S-On my phone
jvward said:
Hey All,
I have a super big problem >.<
I was trying to get clockworkmod recovery working on my phone and somehow it made me lose root access on CM6 and also I lost I lost my RA Recovery.
What do I do!?!?!
please help
PS: I still have S-On my phone
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Follow the process to root again
Any Idea why that happened?
Do I need S-Off?
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Any Idea why that happened?
Do I need S-Off?
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i have no idea why that would happen ,, man im sorry , i only left it in cuz i know some people who use is ,
Hey Can I ask what does it offer outside what anons does?
jvward said:
Hey All,
I have a super big problem >.<
I was trying to get clockworkmod recovery working on my phone and somehow it made me lose root access on CM6 and also I lost I lost my RA Recovery.
What do I do!?!?!
please help
PS: I still have S-On my phone
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I have doen this too, Clockworkmod replaces Amon's, just reflash amons and it will come back.
Thanks,
I got it working again, but just wondering how would I used this recovery manager if I wanted to ?
I dont think it was properly flashing its own recovery image.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks!
jvward said:
Thanks,
I got it working again, but just wondering how would I used this recovery manager if I wanted to ?
I dont think it was properly flashing its own recovery image.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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Don't use CLOCKWORK recovery unless you want a nice looking brick.
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Don't use CLOCKWORK recovery unless you want a nice looking brick.
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Using Clockwork turns my phone into an Iphone 4?
Jking, does it bring anything to the plate that anons does not? and if so does anyone know if there is a way to manually flash the recovery image from them onto the phone, because if I use it, it just make my phone sit at the skate board screen?
jvward said:
Using Clockwork turns my phone into an Iphone 4?
Jking, does it bring anything to the plate that anons does not? and if so does anyone know if there is a way to manually flash the recovery image from them onto the phone, because if I use it, it just make my phone sit at the skate board screen?
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It does have some pretty nice features, but it could cause a brick in the future.
I used it about a month before i had any problems with it.
I wasn't able to flash or restore any nands i had made, it would just spit out error after error. I even tried flashing the ROOT rom and that didn't help either. then when i tried rebooting it just never turned on again and I had to get the phone replaced. On other phones it works great, but on the eris its no good.
I would suggest stay with RA unless you're willing to risk your phone and money.
Cool,
I was just interested in the update rom feature for the Eris, but oh well if its that dangerous >.<
Thanks!
Quick question T2noob, I just noticed your post on the blog for clockwork recovery where you ever able to get past this error.
"The recovery for for the eris 1.8.1.1 isn't working, I tried to reboot into recovery but it never boots, it just stays at the android skateboard screen. If you need anything, testing, info on the phone, ect you can email me at XXXXXXXX"
Yea You need to flash RA then Clockwork thats how he had me fix it, but like i said don't use Clockwork recovery just take a look at this thread im not the only one
http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=687272
I find it really odd that so many people have trouble with clockwork. Been using it to flash ROMs for months with no issues. Hopefully don't have any in the future!
i've used clockwork mod for 3 weeks now without any problems. also have rom manager installed, same author. i absolutely love both apps. i came from a v3 leak and couldn't get amon recovery to load on my phone, this worked like a charm first time. also i read in the forums that amons recovery is no longer supported by the author unlike clockwork mod which the author updates frequently.
t2noob said:
Yea You need to flash RA then Clockwork thats how he had me fix it, but like i said don't use Clockwork recovery just take a look at this thread im not the only one
http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=687272
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that thread you linked too only has you and the op posting in it. in fact i read that thread before i installed it and thought to myself that 2 people aren't enough to convince me it causes any more problems than amon's. personally i only used clockwork because that is what i could get loaded on my phone and have loved it since. also its been updated like 4 times since May when that link was started. so if it bricks my phone so what it just a phone and everythings backed up in triplicate anyways. be a nice excuse to get me a new toy.
I also believe the op's problem is that he used rom manager to flash amons recovery. now its my understanding that doing that removes clockwork mod recovery and replaces it with amon's. so he actually had a problem with amon's recovery and not clockwork mod recovery. i think the problems occur when people use rom manager to falsh a different recovery instead of clockwork mod which it is made to work with. just my ramblings here.
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that thread you linked too only has you and the op posting in it. in fact i read that thread before i installed it and thought to myself that 2 people aren't enough to convince me it causes any more problems than amon's. personally i only used clockwork because that is what i could get loaded on my phone and have loved it since. also its been updated like 4 times since May when that link was started. so if it bricks my phone so what it just a phone and everythings backed up in triplicate anyways. be a nice excuse to get me a new toy.
I also believe the op's problem is that he used rom manager to flash amons recovery. now its my understanding that doing that removes clockwork mod recovery and replaces it with amon's. so he actually had a problem with amon's recovery and not clockwork mod recovery. i think the problems occur when people use rom manager to falsh a different recovery instead of clockwork mod which it is made to work with. just my ramblings here.
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take it as a grain of salt, if you come into the irc there are devs there that had this happen to them and can tell you what exactly happens. And I used ClockWork for about a month before i got the brick so...do as you like with this information.
well there are a lot of people running clockwork mod without problems. i went to the cyanogen forums looking for who was running cm6, like the op, and there are just as many people using clockwork as amon's. and there were a few reports of nandroid recovery failures using amon's in cm6 as the reason why they switched to clockwork.
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well there are a lot of people running clockwork mod without problems. i went to the cyanogen forums looking for who was running cm6, like the op, and there are just as many people using clockwork as amon's. and there were a few reports of nandroid recovery failures using amon's in cm6 as the reason why they switched to clockwork.
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I heard that clock work is a great recovery on other devices, but on the eris it's not good the irc devs also worked with the guy who makes the recovery email him if you like he will tell you he had gotten complaints about on the eris. And there isn't an official cm6 for the eris so the people you talked to were running it for other devices. Like I said a grain of salt.
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Well I would like to test it out but the recovery image it drops over anons does not seem to work anyone have any moderately detailed instructions on to how to get it to work?
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Hello,
I need some help. I decided to try out a mod while at work today. i tried it out and didnt like it too much and try to restore my last back up that i did before the change. the phone cut off then back on and was stuck on the mytouch 4g screen and has been this way for about 3 hours.i took the battery out and i went to the hboot screen and tried a factory reset and then the rom manager opened up (v3.0.0.5). from there i went to reboot now and it goes back to the my touch screen. idk what to do and i need help. im new to the droid and am unfamiliar with the terms. can anyone help PLEASE. if possible to gtalk me at j.d.louisy.
thisisjay said:
Hello,
I need some help. I decided to try out a mod while at work today. i tried it out and didnt like it too much and try to restore my last back up that i did before the change. the phone cut off then back on and was stuck on the mytouch 4g screen and has been this way for about 3 hours.i took the battery out and i went to the hboot screen and tried a factory reset and then the rom manager opened up (v3.0.0.5). from there i went to reboot now and it goes back to the my touch screen. idk what to do and i need help. im new to the droid and am unfamiliar with the terms. can anyone help PLEASE. if possible to gtalk me at j.d.louisy.
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calm down take a breather us XDA users got your back, OK take out the battery and put it back in then go to the Hboot ( hold power and volume down) then once you get to the Hboot Settings use volume down to get to RECOVERY (i think its the third one) then once you get into Clockwork Recovery scroll down to (Backup and Restore) click then press (Restore) and then choose your Restore file it usually Year-month-day hope i helped you donate pls if i did
BE SURE TO KEEP THE CHARGER IN!!
p.s. if it turns off while its restoring even with the charger in let it boot into recovery mode and let it charge up a bit
incase you still need help gtalk me [email protected]
and p.s. CWM 3.0.0.5 is for gingerbread only
Certain roms require certain versions of clockworkmod. I don't know if this also applies to restoring from backups, though. Which type of rom did you flash?
If he flashed the add on 3.0.0.5 has ext3/ext4 support. Should be able to flash froyo and TB Rome.
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3.0.0.6 supports ext3/ex4 3.0.0.5 only does Gingerbread
Edit: I'm being a dumbass yea what he said was right I'm overly tired and I have to explain to her why I was being a dumbass and trying to flash through fastboot but what I don't understand is why its still stuck at the boot screen
thisisjay said:
Hello,
I need some help. I decided to try out a mod while at work today. i tried it out and didnt like it too much and try to restore my last back up that i did before the change. the phone cut off then back on and was stuck on the mytouch 4g screen and has been this way for about 3 hours.i took the battery out and i went to the hboot screen and tried a factory reset and then the rom manager opened up (v3.0.0.5). from there i went to reboot now and it goes back to the my touch screen. idk what to do and i need help. im new to the droid and am unfamiliar with the terms. can anyone help PLEASE. if possible to gtalk me at j.d.louisy.
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Three options
Option one: (easiest)
Since you flashed 3.0.0.5 you must flash a Gingerbread ROM, (Which you can download from here ). Make sure to flash the G/apps after you flash the ROM.
Option two:
you can flash a 2.x.x.x Recovery image, or flash 3.0.0.6 via script or manually do it via the HBoot.
Option three:
Flash the PD15IMG and start over from ground one.
thank you so much for the advice and help. i could bang my head on the wall for trying to load gorillasens. i shouldve left it alone. once i get home from work i will give it a try again.
thisisjay said:
thank you so much for the advice and help. i could bang my head on the wall for trying to load gorillasens. i shouldve left it alone. once i get home from work i will give it a try again.
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Ah. i think i see what happened. You rooted your phone. downloaded Clockwork Rom Manager, then flashed a recovery image (which was version 3.x). then tried to flash a 2.2 ROM.
Okay. so what.....
a common mistake but one that can be avoided by doing a little research.
Clockwork's 3.0.0.5 recovery image is only compatible with Gingerbread (2.3) based ROMs.
Clockwork's 2.x recovery image are only compatible with FroYo (2.2) based ROMs.
gorilla is 2.2 So it's not cannot be flashed by the recovery image you are using.
if that is correct then the text in the recovery image should be orange in color. If that is correct.....If i were in your shoes i'd load CM7 w/ the GAPPS > download CWRM from the markert > scroll to the bottom (all clockwork recoveries) and flash the newest 2.x. then boot into recovery / make sure the text is GREEN, not ORANGE, wipe then flash your GorillaSense.
Can you cite a source, because I've also heard people claim that Clockwork 3 is backwards compatible, but there was no evidence either way...?
How would you go about switching from a 2.2 ROM to a 2.3 ROM? Do you have to backup with CWM 2, then install CWM 3 to install the new ROM? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me...?
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danger-rat said:
Can you cite a source, because I've also heard people claim that Clockwork 3 is backwards compatible, but there was no evidence either way...?
How would you go about switching from a 2.2 ROM to a 2.3 ROM? Do you have to backup with CWM 2, then install CWM 3 to install the new ROM? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me...?
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3.0.0.5 is not backwards compatible, which is the official 3.x that you download via the Application. 3.0.0.6 which is "beta" flashed via the HBoot is backwards compatible.
It's seriously jacked if you ask me.
to go from lets say CM6 > CM7 one would do a nandroid backup of CM6, then go to CWRM flash the 3.0.0.5 recovery image > boot into recovery and flash the CM7.
now to get back to a 2.2 ROM you have to scroll to the bottom of CWRM app's and flash a 2.x version of the recovery then do your nandroid restore, flash the 2.2 recovery image.
From what i've heard once 3.0.0.6 is finished you can use that for everything.
What a pain...
I'm real sketchy about the Clockwork 3 recoveries for the Nexus, because they've been screwing up partitions (mine included). Has there been any problems with Clockwork 3 on the Glacier?
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danger-rat said:
What a pain...
I'm real sketchy about the Clockwork 3 recoveries for the Nexus, because they've been screwing up partitions (mine included). Has there been any problems with Clockwork 3 on the Glacier?
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I haven't had any problems with mine. The only problem that was noted was the 3.0.0.5 prior to the official release wouldn't do Nandroid Backups directly from the application. Some were reporting it work work from the recovery image, but mine never did.
and i have a feeling the reason it's screwing with Partitions is this (CM7/CW3.x) is a Ext4 set up. And CM6/CW2.x is a Ext3 set up.
but since it went official the only problem i've seen is people flashing the the wrong recovery for the wrong ROM. People are flashing 3.x because 3 is higher than 2 so they think it's an upgrade and have no clue on the who/what/when/wheres and whys of what its for.
The partition thing is different for the Nexus, because they are cross compatible to a certain degree. I rolled back to CWM 2, but I can still flash CM7 no probs...
It's interesting to note the differences between the two platforms though (Nexus vs Glacier).
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danger-rat said:
The partition thing is different for the Nexus, because they are cross compatible to a certain degree. I rolled back to CWM 2, but I can still flash CM7 no probs...
It's interesting to note the differences between the two platforms though (Nexus vs Glacier).
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Yea between Google's way of doing thing and HTC, but i'm sure the chip-set has something to do with that. and with the sexy nexi only having 512Mb of memory the factor of tricking the phone to use the SD card has something to do with it i'm sure.
i have the 3.x recovery and i can flash iceglacier which is a 2.2 rom with out any issues. what i can't do is restore my backup from my other phone onto this replacement i just got. i made the backup with the 3.x recovery but i just keep getting stuck at the mytouch bootup screen... gonna try flashing the 2.x recovery and see if it lets me do the restore.
hey there everyone. just giving an update.......phone is still messed up. we tried putting gingerbread on and no go....tried flashing to PD15IMG and starting over. no go, it kept saying that "main version older <bad>" the phone wont go past the htc screen. im going on day 3 and no phone. *sigh* open for more advice. should i just buy another phone?
OMG OMG OMG i fixed it.......thank you for this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957457 i re downloaded the PD(insert file name) and it worked. i broke down in tears. thank you guys sooooo much.
I used the .zip file to restore my mytouch, but now it wont go into Hboot.
I got the same problem and is fixed thanx to this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957457
now I have to root the phone again
Thank you
Thank goodness someone had this problem
I just ran into the same issue. whew good thing xda is here!!! Thanks fellas
I'm a noob, but I've done my research on rooting and flashing before I rooted. This post is simply to stress how much of a crutch clockworkmod is to rooted users unnecessarily. Its surprising how many topics on these forums come from users dependent on clockworkmod. Clockworkmod is an awesome app as long as you don't use it for ALL of the heavy lifting. Amon Ra is a great recovery tool as well.
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Rom Manager and Clockwork recovery would be awesome... if they worked reliably. I've been flashing manually using Amon Ra and have had a lot less problems than I did trying to do it the "easy way".
Rom manager is what I meant by clockworkmod. I am still a noob ;-)
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Sry0fcr said:
Rom Manager and Clockwork recovery would be awesome... if they worked reliably. I've been flashing manually using Amon Ra and have had a lot less problems than I did trying to do it the "easy way".
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I agree. I won't use anything other than Amon Ra recovery. Too many issues with Clockwork.
a lot of people simply use rom manager to download the rom then flash it manually through recovery. rom manager is just a nice easy way to get access to a **** ton of roms without scouring the net for download links and dealing with file hosting sites and such. same can now be said about kernel manager.
DomSim said:
a lot of people simply use rom manager to download the rom then flash it manually through recovery. rom manager is just a nice easy way to get access to a **** ton of roms without scouring the net for download links and dealing with file hosting sites and such. same can now be said about kernel manager.
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Exactly. Ease of use. Don't deny that some 'less experienced' users take advantage of such services and put off actually learning the 'long form' methods, but doesn't mean they're entirely bad. I've seen experienced users condemning anyone that uses them and I find it kinda lame. Besides, no ones fault but the end user when they mess something up. We will forever see posts about simple issues, so this won't stop it.
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Rom manager gives you easy access to Rom downloads & reviews, but a lot of times the roms listed are few and outdated. In my opinion, forums will give more insight on roms & kernels. As for resources, here's my main two:
Roms - http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic/ROMs
Kernels - http://ttechnology.home.comcast.net/~ttechnology/downloads.html
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I didn't think you could use rom manager with anything other then clockwork mod
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Crossrocker said:
I didn't think you could use rom manager with anything other then clockwork mod
You can't as far as I know. Rom manager disables features if clockwork mod isn't set as your recovery.
Gimme a couple a days to come up with a new sig that is cool.
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Thank you for this post!
Some good info here.
I haven't used Rom Manager or ClockworkMod since my first flash months ago, but I read in a guide someone gave someone about "manual flash override" or something like that. I understood that to mean you could enable that setting, use Amon Ra, and still use Rom Manager for certain things - like downloading.
Can someone confirm this? I'm just curious, I prefer Amon Ra for many reasons & like to do everything manually to avoid errors, but it would be neat if there was that feature... just so people have options.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
what type of problems are we having with clockwork? ive used it to flash a cm7 rom with no problem at all.
I have never used rom manager to install a rom.
I use clockwork recovery to flash roms and I don't have any issues.
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I haven't used Rom Manager or ClockworkMod since my first flash months ago, but I read in a guide someone gave someone about "manual flash override" or something like that. I understood that to mean you could enable that setting, use Amon Ra, and still use Rom Manager for certain things - like downloading.
Can someone confirm this? I'm just curious, I prefer Amon Ra for many reasons & like to do everything manually to avoid errors, but it would be neat if there was that feature... just so people have options.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
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Yes you can! I use AmonRa for all of my flashing and wiping, but I still use rom manager for downloads and reviews. You can accomplish this by installing AmonRa directly in hboot. The AmonRa thread will give you instructions and required files.
It is nice to be important, but it is more important to be nice.
You don't want to flash AmonRa through rom manager because it disables most of the app features. Simply install AmonRa in hboot and rom manager is unaffected. This does disable the flashing capability of rom manager, but that's the purpose of this topic.
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Vdubtx said:
I agree. I won't use anything other than Amon Ra recovery. Too many issues with Clockwork.
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I use Amon Ra too. I'm new to Android, but did a **** ton of research on the whole process. A lot of people would agree that Amon Ra is better than Clockwork, but each have their strengths and weaknesses.
I find Amon Ra's UI better organized, easier to use, and more responsive.
When I tried to flash SavagedZen or Baked Snack with clockwork it just wouldn't work. Switch to AmonRa and no problems since.
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You can flash both clockwork and amon ra from rom manager.my evo works great with rom manager new update of rm is cool which gives u option for dalvic and other things.
I've had so many less issues using AmonRa such as boot loop & difficulty restoring backups.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
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Someone asked if it was possible to flash ClockworkMod Recovery through hboot instead of using RomManager. The answer...yes.
Primary reason something of this nature may be useful, as I see it, is if your recovery is damaged, your ROM is bootlooping, and you don't want to use or have access to ADB.
In that case you would:
remove your sdcard from your phone
place the zip on the root of the sdcard (using an adapter or another phone) and make sure it is named the appropriate "PG05IMG.zip"
place the sdcard back in your phone
boot to bootloader as if you're installing a radio (power+VolDown from powerOff). It will then find the zip, recognize it as recovery and ask if you want to install (if it does not prompt then select "Bootloader" from hboot).
Follow the instructions and after it finishes flashing pull your battery to power off (since the ROM will be bootlooping and hboot will constantly find the zip)
Now remove the sdcard and delete the zip (via adapter or other phone) like you did to put it on the sdcard, then place the card back in the phone.
Boot back to bootloader (Pwr+VolDwn)
Select "Recovery" and use CWR to wipe data/cache, flash a new rom, restore, or whatever you wish.
Obviously not the only reason since some people prefer this method over RM but clearly in that case the whole sdcard switching mess is unnecessary. Just do steps 2 and 4 and reboot when prompted like you do with radios.
Remember to remove any PGO5IMG.zip from your sdcard when done.
If this isn't useful to you, so be it. I just figured I'd throw this out there. Maybe it will help someone.
I will keep this updated as new versions come out for those few that find it useful.
**Credit to Koush and jcase**
All I did was decide to throw them in a zip that was useful in some situations for panicking users.
Updates
8/9/2011: Added latest official stable for mecha (4.0.1.5) released 8/8/2011.
8/30/2011: Added latest official stable for mecha (5.0.0.1) released less than an hour ago. Added mirror.
8/31/2011: Added latest official stable for mecha (5.0.0.8)
9/1/2011: Added latest official stable for mecha (5.0.1.0)
9/5/2011: Added latest official stable for mecha (5.0.2.1)
2/1/2012: Added touch based CWR released this morning (5.8.0.2) *NOTE: Have not personally tested.
If any of these cause problems please let me know immediately.
Latest Official=5.0.2.1
jcase modded=4.0.0.5
Mirror: http://www.mediafire.com/?9zt68cegl6qa3
MD5:
66750618ecfba292c0b0e42c50c2c3ee - (CWR3.1.0.2)PG05IMG.zip
1f390edad7e87310fe80b3264a57b14b - (CWR4.0.0.5)PG05IMG.zip
6aac529cedcd2b22afac7391a4cb7efb - (CWR4.0.1.5)PG05IMG.zip
bf25b2601441b9fffb7d68954c4ff3b5 - (CWR5.0.0.1)PG05IMG.zip
dfe1ddf0c574977ee2c1828735ef2dc0 - (CWR5.0.0.8)PG05IMG.zip
8474c8d607177b0144eec624dea687b7 - (CWR5.0.1.0)PG05IMG.zip
c4c1d9c5e553fd7b151352551b931369 - (CWR5.0.2.1)PG05IMG.zip
58557e1e355c795d748c2e6c66251f0a - (CWR5.8.0.2)PG05IMG.zip
Absolute_Zero said:
Someone asked if it was possible to flash ClockworkMod Recovery through hboot instead of using RomManager. I didn't see the need at the time but I took a few minutes to throw together a test. Let me know if it works for you or not.
I tested flashing the stock recovery from the custom firmware, confirmed it had replaced CWR, then used this to install CWR back.
Primary reason something of this nature may be useful, as I see it, is if your recovery is damaged, your ROM is bootlooping, and you don't want or have access to ADB. In that case you would just pull your sdcard, place this on the root (via adapter or someone else's phone) named the appropriate "PG05IMG.zip", place back in your phone, and boot to bootloader as if you're installing a radio. It should then find it, recognize it as recovery and ask if you want to install.
Additionally, seems if it is as easy as swapping the .img out which is all I did, then the original custom upgrade firmware flashed in the last step of the root guide could include this. Then you'd have CWR immediately after finishing the permaroot guide.
If this doesn't work and doesn't have any use for anyone, so be it. I just figured I'd throw this out there.
BTW, this is ClockworkMod Recovery 3.1.0.2 (latest for mecha at time of posting).
Note1: Only tested on Engr hboot with S-off obviously
Note2: I don't have access to an MD5 generator where I am so people that test this should have a booting ROM with RomManager or at least know how to manually reflash ClockworkMod Recovery if it doesn't work.
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Good work.on this... A LOT of people are going enjoy it!! It is also a great way to install the modded 4.0.0.5 Clockwork with the boot to bootloader option.
I always had to "flash recovery" in adb.
Props!!
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good post will definitely come in hand props
DroidTh3ory said:
Good work.on this... A LOT of people are going enjoy it!! It is also a great way to install the modded 4.0.0.5 Clockwork with the boot to bootloader option.
I always had to "flash recovery" in adb.
Props!!
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There's a modded 4.0.0.5 CWM Recovery out there?? Where can I find the post for this ?
Sword.Zero said:
There's a modded 4.0.0.5 CWM Recovery out there?? Where can I find the post for this ?
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Post a link to it and I'll make one when I get home. That way I can test again. Hopefully the modded one you speak of is fully stable and functional.
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Post a link to it and I'll make one when I get home. That way I can test again. Hopefully the modded one you speak of is fully stable and functional.
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Here is your package with the 4.0.0.5 Modded Recovery ready to flash in HBOOT.
JCASE created the Recovery, so him the love for it. I all I have done is use it. LOL It gives you the option under "advanced" to "reboot bootloader". So you can install the ROM, then simply boot into boot loader to flash the radio.
View attachment (CWR4.0.0.5)PG05IMG.zip
DroidTh3ory said:
Here is your package with the 4.0.0.5 Modded Recovery ready to flash in HBOOT.
JCASE created the Recovery, so him the love for it. I all I have done is use it. LOL It gives you the option under "advanced" to "reboot bootloader". So you can install the ROM, then simply boot into boot loader to flash the radio.
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In your case it would probably be easier to just use flash_image from terminal on the phone (i.e. flash_image recovery /sdcard/recovery.img) assuming your current rom has it (if not just search and download it) or you have RM installed. The main case I saw this being useful was if you didn't have or want to use ADB and your ROM was unusable (e.g. bootlooping). I may add Jcase's modded recovery to the OP as well since it seems useful/wanted by some.
I thought the one JCase made had issues with nandroid backups installing? I could be wrong but for some reason I remember that issue for several people.
Mustang302LX said:
I thought the one JCase made had issues with nandroid backups installing? I could be wrong but for some reason I remember that issue for several people.
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I have been using for a good month now on 3 different bolts... Never had a issue??
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Additionally, seems if it is as easy as swapping the .img out which is all I did, then the original custom upgrade firmware flashed in the last step of the root guide could include this. Then you'd have CWR immediately after finishing the permaroot guide.
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actually,thats allready how it is ive rooted mr2 twice and the mr1 upgrade allready has clockwork installed.
it is that easy,i have done this,and i have also removed the hboot and stock recovery from PG05IMG RUUs so that i could flash without destroying recovery and my eng bootloader.
thanks for putting it together and offering the download, it has many uses, as people will see. the biggest one allready having been mentioned,if something screws up your OS and recovery,its easy to get it back.
did you make up your own android info file? or what did you take it from?
again thanks for posting this,it was commonplace to install inc recoverys in hboot,and ive done it on the eris as well
DroidTh3ory said:
Here is your package with the 4.0.0.5 Modded Recovery ready to flash in HBOOT.
JCASE created the Recovery, so him the love for it. I all I have done is use it. LOL It gives you the option under "advanced" to "reboot bootloader". So you can install the ROM, then simply boot into boot loader to flash the radio.
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thanks for the download. has he put up any posts on it? or is it still being developed?
scotty1223 said:
thanks for the download. has he put up any posts on it? or is it still being developed?
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I believe he has it posted on rootzwiki
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cool,thanx... ill go over there and look for it.
edot:
here if anyone else wants it
Thanks for this. Just flashed 4.0.0.5 after being afraid/too lazy to do it through ADB (which is also a pain because I have it on my Windows partition whereas I regularly use Mac).
scotty1223 said:
actually,thats allready how it is ive rooted mr2 twice and the mr1 upgrade allready has clockwork installed.
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Figures. It was too simple of a concept not to have been done but I didn't see anyone that had done it in Tbolt. I also hadn't seen anyone mention it was in the custom firmware either and I didn't have time to check this morning before I left for work. I guess I can pull that part out of the OP since you say it's already in there.
thanks for putting it together and offering the download, it has many uses, as people will see. the biggest one allready having been mentioned,if something screws up your OS and recovery,its easy to get it back.
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Exactly my reasoning. I've seen to many people unaware of what to do in that situation
did you make up your own android info file? or what did you take it from?
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I checked a few from the firmware and radios and they all looked the same so I just pulled one of those.
again thanks for posting this,it was commonplace to install inc recoverys in hboot,and ive done it on the eris as well
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First HTC android phone I've owned but as I said, makes sense it would have been done a long time ago for other HTC phones.
DroidTh3ory said:
I believe he has it posted on rootzwiki
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Hey get out of here, you've got candy to make! I keeeed I keeeed! Great work on the recovery guys, VERY useful!
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DroidTh3ory said:
I have been using for a good month now on 3 different bolts... Never had a issue??
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Yup. Been using it since it's release. Restored many backups with absolutely no issues.
Absolute_Zero said:
Figures. It was too simple of a concept not to have been done but I didn't see anyone that had done it in Tbolt. I also hadn't seen anyone mention it was in the custom firmware either and I didn't have time to check this morning before I left for work. I guess I can pull that part out of the OP since you say it's already in there.
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id be willing to bet most people dont know,lol.they prolly just blindly downloAd rom manager and flash it. i checked to see if it was there,after seeing this as one of the last statements in the root post: Reboot your phone. You should now have full root permissions, an engineering kernel and recovery.
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First HTC android phone I've owned but as I said, makes sense it would have been done a long time ago for other HTC phones.
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its one of the things i really love about htc. i got used to installing recoverys,splash screens,etc. on my incredible,then started experimenting with img files on my eris,and discovered it was quite possible to simply move the images around kinda neat if you want to try a leaked ruu but dont want to wait for someone to post a CWM flashable roms. just pull out the hboot and stock recovery and flash away
it was quite common to manipulate things in hboot on the inc,but never mentioned in the eris forum,where most of the gurus frowned upon the s-off bootloader.kind of a shame... more bricked eris's prolly could have been revived after the clockwork fiasco if s-off was part of the common root process.
thanx for the android info info. when i make them up,it doesnt seem to matter which one i use. i dont think it even checks the text inside,i think you just need a text document titled "android info" lol
Thank you for the updated 5.0.0.1 cement recovery.
cam30era said:
Thank you for the updated 5.0.0.1 cement recovery.
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Autocorrect fail? or did you have a problem with 5.0.0.1?
I am real new to the KindleFire community but so far loving my Kfire. I see in slot of posts they say to use TWRP to install or update a ROM. Since I have CWM installed can I use it instead are they interchangeable for installing files?
Hope that make sense.
Thanks
Rod
most people are taking about twrp because it was the first recovery for the kf
cwm is quite new for the kf
you can use both to install roms ...
Cwm is able to be updated by current developers. Twrp looks cool, but just needs to be updated. If someone updates the reboot wrappers it'd be a winner. But I do like and prefer cwm
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yeah twrp is dead for our device. cwm is still alive though
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yeah twrp is dead for our device. cwm is still alive though
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Is there or link or how-to to swtich from TWRP to CWM? Does CWM have all the features as TWRP? I have been using TWRP since I rooted the KF, have used it to back up, flash new roms to try out, flash back to my backup. CWM does all this, just dosn't have the nice CWM interface?
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Is there or link or how-to to swtich from TWRP to CWM? Does CWM have all the features as TWRP? I have been using TWRP since I rooted the KF, have used it to back up, flash new roms to try out, flash back to my backup. CWM does all this, just dosn't have the nice CWM interface?
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The easiest way is to use THIS method, just be sure to unzip the file on your Kindle rather than on a computer or it may not work correctly. The only difference I've noticed between CWM and TWRP is that CWM does not compress the backup so the file is a lot bigger, my backups used to be in the low 500mb range and now they are in the low 800's.
Any particular reason to migrate to CWM? I have TWRP from the first day ant it doing a job very well. So, did CWM have any new features?
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Any particular reason to migrate to CWM? I have TWRP from the first day ant it doing a job very well. So, did CWM have any new features?
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Development should be the main reason imo I think the interface looks way better. I got annoyed by the flickering backlight with twrp. It does all the same things, but cwm looks better. Plus before I switched, twrp wouldn't flash roms or gapps all the time, it would get stuck and I would have to reboot
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gett said:
Any particular reason to migrate to CWM? I have TWRP from the first day ant it doing a job very well. So, did CWM have any new features?
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For me there was not a reason to use TWRP as I have been using CWM for the last several years on smartphones and was more comfortable with it. I also read several articles where people had issues with TWRP so with as much problems as I was having trying to root my kindle because of USB driver I wanted to stick with something I know. So I thought it best to stick with and old friend I was used too. Not saying one is better than the other I just like CWM better for me and think it gives me more options to perform operations on my phone and kindle.
Rod
How have the pros and cons changed with the intro of TWRP 2.1? I am currently using CWM touch but prefer the TWRP interface, but don't want to sacrifice any features.
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How have the pros and cons changed with the intro of TWRP 2.1? I am currently using CWM touch but prefer the TWRP interface, but don't want to sacrifice any features.
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all the reboot option in twrp are still broken so Cwm is still the way to go and mabe im ocd but i like haveing Cwm on my phone and tablet plus you dont have to worry about accidenty hiting reboot to recovery and being in a boot loop
different versions of CWM touch?
I just switched from CWM touch (DooMLorD) v1.0 Final to v5.0.2.7-kf1.5 I was wondering what the differences are? I tried the Change UI color feature, but it doesn't seem to work, just stays red. is there something I'm missing? and what else was changed?
its just cleaned up. not sure why it wont change colors, works fine on my device I tested all the colors when I posted the screen shots.
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smirkis said:
its just cleaned up. not sure why it wont change colors, works fine on my device I tested all the colors when I posted the screen shots.
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I installed it and changed it to cyan with no problem! Thanks!
PS, not to resurrect a dead issue, make sure you use Root Browser (if you used Root Explorer it may not have updated check the version).
smirkis said:
its just cleaned up. not sure why it wont change colors, works fine on my device I tested all the colors when I posted the screen shots.
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Hmmm....I followed the instructions to the letter, even retried it, then rebooted, no luck, installed TWRP, rebooted, reinstalled CWMT 1.5 still no luck with colors. It's not really a big deal, I'm just Being kinda OCD! Everything else about it work perfect though....
P.S. I realize this probably belongs in the DEV thread, but I can't post there yet YAY For Noobs!!