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All i need is a little convincing...

Hey guys. Im new to the forum, I've been over at M3 with my Motorola Cliq. I have a full upgrade available to me, and right now im considering the Vibrant since my fiance just got the captivate and its pretty sexy.
The only problem is, I dont know anyone with a vibrant, so instead of googling for bonehead reviews, i figured id post here and get opinions from people who are actually involved with their phones (and i will most likely root it). So my main question is, why should I get this phone instead of waiting for the G2 or the MyTouch HD? What are its main downfalls? Also, how is root on this phone? Hows the tethering, overclocking/underclocking? It looks like theres plenty of ROM support. Also, after briefly skimming through these forums, I'm seeing a lot of stuff on a "lag fix". What lag are you referring to?
So I welcome your personal opinions, good or bad, i appreciate it. Thanks.
PS - Cosmetically I must admit I'm not impressed. The IPhone-like body repelled me at first, and it really does feel like it may be TOO light. But if the good outweighs the bad, im sure i can get used to these things.

best screen on the market
hummingbird processor is superior to snapdragons
it's thin and light, barely noticeable in your pocket
super easy to root, super easy to tether without apps (instructions for OSX)
major downfalls include waiting on samsung's lackluster support and some users are experiencing GPS issues
i personally thought my vibrant was still more responsive on 2.1 than an EVO i was playing around with on 2.2. i can't wait until this phone gets froyo, it should fly!

lolcopter said:
best screen on the market
hummingbird processor is superior to snapdragons
it's thin and light, barely noticeable in your pocket
super easy to root, super easy to tether without apps (instructions for OSX)
major downfalls include waiting on samsung's lackluster support and some users are experiencing GPS issues
i personally thought my vibrant was still more responsive on 2.1 than an EVO i was playing around with on 2.2. i can't wait until this phone gets froyo, it should fly!
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Thanks for your input. Well, I'm pretty used to horrible customer loyalty, having had to deal with Motorola for the past 10 months.
Thin and light: I must say, it feels like a toddler could snap it in half. That is one of my main concerns.

Hardware is cool firmware blows. If gps worked i would buy again

98classic said:
Hardware is cool firmware blows. If gps worked i would buy again
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Firmware may blow, but arent there ROMs out there that improve it?

Vibrant all the way!!!!! one of the best phone's out there!!!!!!!!

"Vibrant" screen, memory, speed, processor, thin phone, NO SLIDing KEYWORK, trackpad and touchscreen don't make senses to me... So vibrant all the way. For rooting i used "one click rooting" and lag fix i used Ryan's Lag fix, and to fix the GPS i used "vibrant-JI2-GPS.zip" (room manager needed)

TopShelf10 said:
Firmware may blow, but aren't there ROMs out there that improve it?
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Yes. I'm using Bionix's mods & he's got the GPS & all that other stuff fixed in his ROM. As long as you use a custom ROM it's all good.

I was disappointed with the stock firmware, and had started regretting my purchase. Then I rooted the phone and applied the bionix ROM, and now I'm loving my phone.
The thing is, Samsung takes a long while to support upgrades to Android, so if that's a problem, you may want to go HTC G2. Personally, I don't like the slideout keyboard, because they invariably feel more flimsy and prone to break than the candybar style of phone.
The GPS has been a problem for many people, myself included. Samsung has acknowledged the problem and is reportedly working on a fix. I can tell you that the bionix rom, like several others, incorporates a fix that has made it workable for me.
Another issue for many of us is the lack of a front-facing camera. Another poster has found the hardware for it online for $17 US, and I hear that one of the developers may be working on the software.
Overall the phone, once a custom rom is in place, is snappy and a good performer. After flashing the rom, my only real complaint has been the poor T-Mobile coverage, especially in my home. There is a recent rumor that T-Mobile is going to enable UMA (cell phone calls over wifi) for recent Android phones. That would pretty much finish off any of my complaints...
Hope this helps

I have not owned any other smart phones before I purchased this Vibrant. That being said, I absolutely love this phone. The only issues I have had with it is the GPS problem (takes forever to lock on and loses signal randomly than can't find a lock again for quite some time) and the "Lag". For clarification, the "Lag" is a very minor issue that affects only some phones, and is only noticed by the picky users IMO. Basically, you click on something and the phone "lags" out every now and than for maybe 1 second.
Now it needs to be stated that not all Vibrants are experiencing these issues. My wife has a Vibrant as well and has not noticed any major issues with her GPS, while I have on mine.
However, if you have no qualms with modding your device, the two major issues this phone has can easily be fixed. Rooting couldn't be simpler with the One Click Root (You install it on your computer, attach your phone, and click a button, than follow 3 easy steps on your phone). There are One Click Lag fixes that are just as easy (Which can be downloaded from the market). I have used it and it without issue. The GPS can be fixed by either flashing one of the multiple fixes out there, or simply installing a custom ROM from Bionix, or Eugene. (I am currently using Eugenes Frankin-Twiz and my GPS locks on in about 20 seconds, and hasn't lost signal once.)
That being said, I have heard that a JI5 update for our device is being rolled out pretty much as I speak via KIES. Don't know what that update fixes, but from what little I have read, people that had GPS issues are no longer having them after updating. I just backed up my current ROM and will likely be flashing the update shortly to test it out.
Hope this helps in your decision.

IDtheTarget said:
Another issue for many of us is the lack of a front-facing camera. Another poster has found the hardware for it online for $17 US, and I hear that one of the developers may be working on the software.
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WHAT??? i though it was impossible... do u have a link of this thread, i been looking for this bad not luck. Thanks

Dragoth12 said:
For clarification, the "Lag" is a very minor issue that affects only some phones, and is only noticed by the picky users IMO. Basically, you click on something and the phone "lags" out every now and than for maybe 1 second.
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You wouldn't say that if you used an app that hits the database hard.
Newsrob for example, an excellent google reader app. It's SLOW on a stock vibrant. Apply any of the lag fixes, and it FLIES.
For many apps, I would actually agree that it's nit-picky. However, Samsung F-ed up by trying to force their stupid proprietary filesystem on all of us when standard ones perform significantly better. There's no good reason to cripple this excellent hardware with crap software when free, open source software that is already in the Linux kernel Android is based on is so much better.

Thanks guys. Im surprised these threads dont have a "thank" button

i do regret jumping the gun on getting the vibrant, because i'm a huge fan of physical keyboards, and the g2 looks to have a pretty decent one. with that said, that is the only advantage the g2 has.
vibrant's pros-
display. i really don't think we'll see another phone that can match this phone's screen for a good while.
tv out. loading movies up on my phone and plugging them into the tv is fantastic!
gpu. everytime i check out some market games, the general comment concensus shows that the galaxy s phones never really have an issue running any games. the ps1 emulator running flawless is pretty much all the proof you need.
dev support. coming from the g1 with cyanogenmod, i was kinda worried that we wouldn't have any decent devs working on this thing, but my worries were unfounded. the user sombionix has made a ROM on his own (as far as i know) that has made this phone into the powerhouse it should be. the battery life is worlds better, it runs like i expected it to run when i first got it, and the list goes on. there's also a handful of other users whipping up some pretty decent themes and mods for us.
that's all i can think of at the moment. my personal cons with the phone are no led notification, no keyboard, and certain elements of touchwiz. i really wanna like tw, but there are some features that should be able to be changed or completely disabled.
so it's really up to you. just know (as i learned) that once you buy a phone you really want, there's gonna be 5 more just around the corner that you'll really want too. so just do some research, weigh the pros and cons, and go from there. luckily for us consumers, we've reached the point where there's nothing but good **** coming out, so let's reap the benefits.

I've noticed alot of Devs are moving towards the Vibrant, that says it all. Yes there are minor issues but fixes are already present and official fixes are on the way. Plus when we get Froyo, this baby will be on steroids. Get it! I hear that Walmart is selling it for $99. That should seal the deal for you.

ttabbal said:
I would actually agree that it's nit-picky.
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Im actually one of those picky users that you guys are referring to ....processor speed is number one on my list of things that i want out of a smartphonee, thats why i was concerned about this issue, but i hear nothing but positive results from these "lag fixes" so i dont think its enough to affect my decision. heres my list, in order, of important things in a phone for me:
1. Processor - 1gh hummingbird, which can be overclocked/underclocked....+1
2. Storage/Memory - this phone has pllllenty....+2
3. RAM - from what i gather, this phone is up to par, no more no less than the average Android smartphone....0
4. Modding abilities - The developer support for this phone seems very good, with a decent amount of ROMs to choose from that offer your basic root features, and software improvements +1
5. Display - no need to explain....+2
6. Keyboard - Lacks physical keyboard....-1
7. Design - IPhone look is too unoriginal and basic (not looking foward to people asking "derr, is that an iphone??"), phone seems way too prone to damage with being as light as a feather....-2
8. Firmware - I can't grade it, cause it's not something you can judge on paper, but its last on the list because ROMs usually address any issues....0
Well, based on my horrible, makeshift, totally irrelevant grading system...as a non-user, this phone gets a +3.
The only reason im dissecting and trying to pick all of your brains is because, 2yrs is a long time to commit to a phone, and like christpuncher said it will most likely be behind the pack within 6months, and i really want to make sure this phone will put up the longest fight possible.
Android 3.0 should be released around the New Year, whats the likelihood the Vibrant will see that?

huasamaya said:
WHAT??? i though it was impossible... do u have a link of this thread, i been looking for this bad not luck. Thanks
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Here ya go ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770854

More important then specs and what everyone else thinks in a biased Vibrant forum is what do you want and need. I've owned the MyTouch (1rst Gen) HTC G1 and iPhone (jailbroken), HTC Touch Pro II and Vibrant on T-Mobile. And have used the MyTouch Slide for a few days. I don't think you can compare these phones apples to apples.
At least in my expeirence and view, the MyTouch phones are more along the lines of messaging/social phone. It's outta your way when your not using it (small) and feels more like an on the go phone. In contrast my Vibrant feels more like a premier and capable phone. It's more of a multimedia targeted phone and boasts a stronger cpu and better display. The G2 will have a hardware keyboard and if you've used the Touch Pro II's keyboard (best in market IMO) then you'll have an idea how great HTC's hardware keyboards can be. I miss that keyboard but have grown to live without it on my Vibrant. The G2 from what I've read wont carry the huge specs (800mhz cpu?) of the Vibrant but then again it's not targeted at the same market. I see the G1 and G2 as the do everything good phone.
My best advice is to wait till the G2 comes out and head down to a Tmobile store and play with them. I was set on buying the MyTouch Slide when I headed down to the store and check out the Vibrant b/c of the rave reviews. After holding it in my hands and playing with it, I was amazed but still was going to get the MyTouch Slide. Then I compared price, specs, and features and the Vibrant in my case was a steal after I headed to Walmart where I got it for $150. The MyTouch Slide was selling for $179 at Tmobile.
Anyhow, I would personally purchase the Vibrant again over the MyTouch and I would only want the G2 because it adheres to Android rules more so then Samsung does (filesystem and stock apps).

watcher64 said:
Here ya go ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770854
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PLOP!!! i can't believe it!!! i hope they can make it work!!

TopShelf10 said:
Android 3.0 should be released around the New Year, whats the likelihood the Vibrant will see that?
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If I had to take a shot in the dark I'd say the Vibrant will NOT be seeing 3.0, but that is 100% speculation on my part. I'd imagine the G2 will get 3.0 and probably some updates further than that. That said, the dev support for the Vibrant is outstanding. At the moment I'm rockin' Eugene373's Frankin Twiz and Voodoo lagfix. I'd be willing to bet even if we don't get an "official" 3.0 update that we'll still see it on our Vibrants in due time.

lag?

i see a lot of people complaining about lag on the vibrant, my dad has one and i'm planning on getting one to replace my N1 as a normal useage phone (mostly because i'm stick of waiting 6 months for cyanogen updates now)
Anyway, i've noticed pretty much no lag on my dads vibrant for the last month or so. it sometimes takes a few seconds to load some of the default apps like dialer, contacts or messaging, but once your in there it's smooth as can be. Sims 3 is running amazingly smooth, and i can jump around avatar with pretty much no lag at all. and this is on a stock, unrooted, vibrant.
So i'm just wondering, so many people are complaining about the lag but i see none.
also downloading the update to my dads phone now so i'm curious to see how that will play into this.
*edit* oh and one thing i want to add, the 3d gallery, launcherpro, and any game is easilly running with a 2-3x faster framerate than my Cm6 N1. Honestly my dads phone makes my N1 look like a G1.

I've had the Vibrant since it's debut. I have an Exchange server at work and noticed horrible lag in the default email app and even worse in Touchdown. Tried RyanZA's v1 lagfix and was blown away at the speed difference. Now I have the JI6 update and the lag was better, but with the OCLF v2.1 applied my phone is so fast, it's stupid. If you don't think you have lag - try a lagfix and you'll see.
fF

My wife and I both have the vibrant. Hers is slow, and mine is not. I have no idea what the difference is because, although hers is stock and nine is not, the lag was not a problem for me even when mine was stock.

It's because she is a woman and women don't know how to use phones. LOL. JK! (Sorta)

^^^ eff yourself
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^^^ eff yourself
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Geez, calm down. Ever heard of a joke?

Where did you buy the phones though? Sometimes there are significant hard and software differences of each unit. For example, my first vibrant cant overclock, and it was hardware locked. This new one i have can do both flawlessly.
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neok44 said:
i see a lot of people complaining about lag on the vibrant, my dad has one and i'm planning on getting one to replace my N1 as a normal useage phone (mostly because i'm stick of waiting 6 months for cyanogen updates now)
Anyway, i've noticed pretty much no lag on my dads vibrant for the last month or so. it sometimes takes a few seconds to load some of the default apps like dialer, contacts or messaging, but once your in there it's smooth as can be. Sims 3 is running amazingly smooth, and i can jump around avatar with pretty much no lag at all. and this is on a stock, unrooted, vibrant.
So i'm just wondering, so many people are complaining about the lag but i see none.
also downloading the update to my dads phone now so i'm curious to see how that will play into this.
*edit* oh and one thing i want to add, the 3d gallery, launcherpro, and any game is easilly running with a 2-3x faster framerate than my Cm6 N1. Honestly my dads phone makes my N1 look like a G1.
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IMHO, and I own both a Vibrant and a G2, I did the same thing you are thinking about doing and I sold my N1 in the process. I kicked myself on a daily basis until I broke down and bought a G2.
The lack of a camera flash, non-working GPS, lag, 2.1 instead of 2.2, and a few other issues far outweighed the beauty of the screen for me. Don't get me wrong, the screen is F*#%ing AWESOME on the Vibrant. Its just that I found I couldn't live without a reliable gps, flash, (Adobe Flash is nice too), and the lag is annoying.
This is all my opinion of course, and to each his own. I recommend that if you get a vibrant you keep your N1 till you are sure you want the Vibrant. Personally I just sent my Vibrant back for the 3rd time, Including the original one that I bought, I will have my 5th Vibrant come tomorrow, I am ready to be rid of it but there is no resale value. Brand new in the box from Craigslist they sell for as little as $275. That is because of the BOGO and all the super deals on them right now.
Just my .02!

Didnt read anyother replies. But I'm just going to recommend going to the development section and just download a bionix rom. Its the fastest thing on this phone as far as roms imo. Voodoo makes this phone fly even faster but the stock 1.8 rom is still really smooth without it.
People who complain about lag should spend 2 hours reading various guides and getting firmiluar with that device in your hand.
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What do you need a flash for? Have you ever tried night mode with auto contrast on? Pretty awesome results unless you are trying to take pictures in pitch black.
And JI6 fixes both the lag and the GPS issues. If that isn't enough for you, bionix has done a wonderful job with his rom. Seriously, everything you are saying has either been fixed by JI6 or a dev.
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My phone was running Frankin Wiz with Voodoo Lag fix, My gps still sucked. The gps tracks jump all over the place no matter what I do.
I am talking strictly of the out of the box experience between the two devices.
My question to you as a consumer, not a power user or hacker, or moder or anything like that, just an average everyday consumer is this: Do you feel like after spending $500 (out of contract) on a "smart phone", that you should then have to spend several hours of your time learning how to install third party firmware and hacks on your device, just so that you can get the functionality that was advertised?
If you bought a brand new car from a dealership and found out that you had to replace the transmission and pay for custom engine modifications for it to run right, would you say to your friends, "Well the car has some problems but you can fix them by getting a new transmission and having the engine overhauled, I think you should buy one." HELL NO, you would say that the car is a POS and you would return it and get one that worked right and you would tell everyone.
Why are you defending a product that is flawed? I own the phone, I paid $500 for it. I think that it is not what I hoped it would be. I like to mod my phone, I shouldn't have to mod my phone. Does that make sense?
Just like I wouldn't recommend a flawed vehicle, I will not recommend a flawed phone. Simple as that.
Now let the arguing and flaming begin!

I see your point, but the point is that Samsung has addressed the issues. Cars are not perfect and have to have things corrected with them also. Ever heard of a recall or factory defect?
Seriously, JI6 is a Godsend. I was running that STOCK with no modifications for a few days and then decided to try the newest version of Bionix. It wasn't because anything was wrong, I just wanted something different. I just put that on my phone TODAY. Again, I was running STOCK JI6 and the phone was perfect. I didn't even install a lagfix. When I was on JFD, there was unbearable lag, JI6 none.
I tried Eugene's rom in the past and nothing against the rom, it wasn't for me.
I just think you need to do your research more. I can see you are frustrated but like I said, you could have a fully functional phone without any modifications with the newest update. Then if you choose to, and only if you chose to, you could install a different rom.

I am actually not frustrated at all. You see I have exchanged my Vibrant 3 times for Warranty. I will be trading it in on a MyTouch next month. I am so fed up with my samsung experience that I will probably never buy another phone from them. I may give the TAB a shot, but if it sux like the phone it will go back before the 14 days is up.
I have had my Samsung since July. I wanted to love the phone, but overall I am really disappointed. I am going back to HTC.

Gr8gorilla said:
IMHO, and I own both a Vibrant and a G2, I did the same thing you are thinking about doing and I sold my N1 in the process. I kicked myself on a daily basis until I broke down and bought a G2.
The lack of a camera flash, non-working GPS, lag, 2.1 instead of 2.2, and a few other issues far outweighed the beauty of the screen for me. Don't get me wrong, the screen is F*#%ing AWESOME on the Vibrant. Its just that I found I couldn't live without a reliable gps, flash, (Adobe Flash is nice too), and the lag is annoying.
This is all my opinion of course, and to each his own. I recommend that if you get a vibrant you keep your N1 till you are sure you want the Vibrant. Personally I just sent my Vibrant back for the 3rd time, Including the original one that I bought, I will have my 5th Vibrant come tomorrow, I am ready to be rid of it but there is no resale value. Brand new in the box from Craigslist they sell for as little as $275. That is because of the BOGO and all the super deals on them right now.
Just my .02!
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Have you tried flashing a Bionix rom? No lag issues. Gps is fixed. Night and day difference compared to the stock rom.
If not, the G2 and Mytouch HD are very good alternatives.
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Could there be some "bad" batches running around that suffer from this lag? Sort of like the harware locked phones... my first Vibrant was HW locked and I exchanged it and ended up with a non-HW locked phone.
On both phones, neither had any level of perceptible lag. Is it that bad that it's affecting everyday useage? Or are people possibly being a bit too nit-picky because their app launched in .001 seconds instead of .00001? I've heard people say their Vibrant lags hard while using Touchdown. I use Touchdown many, many times during the day for my work. Never once has it lagged on me. I'm coming from a MT3G, which was the king of lag so I should know about that.
I go hiking, camping and off-highway driving a couple of times a month so I depend on GPS to be working because I like to chart my trips and set waypoints for future use. I understand the Vibrant has an issue with that right now, but I'm patient enough to wait for the fix. If not, I can just use my Garmin handheld that has been relegated to the drawer which is more of a correct TOOL to use for that sort of thing anyway. It's certainly NOT a deal-breaker for me. Maybe I'm more patient than others.
No flash on the camera? Well, I knew about that BEFORE I bought it, so I have nothing to complain about there. Why would someone complain that it doesn't have a flash and they bought it anyway? Seems absurd. Were you misled somehow? I don't think so. No valid argument there.
No 2.2 yet? Big deal. The phone works. Not like you're running 1.5 with no future plan in sight. If you were, then you'd really have something to cry about.
I think some people are making a bunch of hay over very little things that can be remedied.
Guess I just got "lucky" with my phone, or maybe I'm just not a pain in the ass. I'd hate to be known by TMO employees as "Mr. *****MoanAndComplain", even when they've given me 5 phones already.

The lag issue depends heavily upon how you use the phone. I found certain applications more likely to lag than others, write intensive applications.
I switched to using Google Finance in the web browser from the "official" Finance application due to the heavy lag incurred whenever the app did a background sync. The same for some other apps like Touiteur or Mint.com's app. With JI6 the lag has improved, but it's still not "there" yet for my tastes. I still see a slowdown when K9 is running a background sync... and don't get me started on how slow the phone becomes when using the Facebook application (again, I end up using touch.facebook.com instead since it's faster for me).
My preference is for a multi-tasking phone to actually multi-task, and I also prefer applications to locally cache as much as possible. Unlike most applications where a local cache should provide a desired speed up, the usage of RFS is just as likely to generate a slowdown, counterintuitive really.

I have plenty of apps running all while playing music, no lag. You don't need a lag fix with JI6. Just avoid hacking up your phone. They're not as reliable as the phone would be stock. I'm sure Bionix is making some nice headway but can I guarantee you that it has more bugs than stock and won't look like stock (something we should all desire and change at will).

Gr8gorilla said:
I am actually not frustrated at all. You see I have exchanged my Vibrant 3 times for Warranty. I will be trading it in on a MyTouch next month. I am so fed up with my samsung experience that I will probably never buy another phone from them. I may give the TAB a shot, but if it sux like the phone it will go back before the 14 days is up.
I have had my Samsung since July. I wanted to love the phone, but overall I am really disappointed. I am going back to HTC.
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Is it because G2 is the spiritual successor of G1? Because when I visited G2 forum, G2 has its share of problems like lose hinge, temp root (I am sure it will be fixed), and of course only 2G of internal space, etc. But those who are so quick to jump on Samsung, no offense but you are one of them I see posting, gave G2 a 9/10. I am just wonder what is the difference that you can tolerate the fault of one phone but not the other.

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Is it because G2 is the spiritual successor of G1? Because when I visited G2 forum, G2 has its share of problems like lose hinge, temp root (I am sure it will be fixed), and of course only 2G of internal space, etc. But those who are so quick to jump on Samsung, no offense but you are one of them I see posting, gave G2 a 9/10. I am just wonder what is the difference that you can tolerate the fault of one phone but not the other.
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My next phone will be iOS or WP7. I may just pay outright for an HD7 when released.
Half the issues are with Sammy, half are with Android. Basically the phone is at least usablr now, but I have founf Android to be boring and overhyped. /shrug
But Android phone support serms quite hit and miss and due to the android market and fragmentation manufacturers seem more intent on realeasing more devices than fewer, but higher quality devices with good support backing them.
If anything it has led me yo see the hidden advantages of Apple and Microsoft's approaches IRT their (new) mobile OSes.
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man i started one hell of a debate lol
Well i think my dads vibrant is hardware locked, i held the power button and volume down button and it just kept showing the vibrant boot screen and then rebooting back into it until i let go and then booted up normally.
As far as getting a vibrant for myself, i would wait for froyo. had froyo too long to go back to 2.1. But personally i've used a G2 and didn't like it at all. Didn't like the form and weight, and even though the speed was a lot better than my N1, to get it the way i would want it i would still have to change the rom and do tons of other stuff.
So looking at the vibrant, i'll lose my trackball and flash, i can live without the trackball, and after taking some nightmode pictures on the vibrant they come out easily 100 times better then any picture i took with the flash on the N1, though losing the flash as a flashlight does kinda suck.
But just looking at the vibrant for me it's the best thing, i'd probably just root it and never change the rom since i actually like a lot of the touchwiz changes. Though i would install launcherpro and probably switch out for the stock messaging app.
And to test the lag some more on my dads phone with the new update, i had solitaire, 3d gallery, browser (with 6 windows), maps, and on the phone and i got no lag switching in and out of all the apps.

Anyone come from a "bigger/faster" phone to the aria?

Currently rocking a captivate, love the phone but thinking about getting a galaxy tab and downsizing my phone to aria with CM and overclocked to 850. I can make about 200$ towards the tab purchase selling my cappy and picking up a aria.
Any input? anyone make the move from a bigger screen?

The Aria's size and build is really great, with a lot of nice hardware features.
I'm not sure about overclocking though, it's reasonably fast without it, and would likely result in about 26 minute battery life.

I actually just posted a big long comparison on another forum for a debate between the two. I'll copy & paste the whole thing for ya, if you care to read it.
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So I'll lay my full opinion on the table, as its a pretty recent experience for me. It's a long story, so if you're patient enough to read it, here it goes:
I pre-ordered an iPhone 4, and when I got it, it was defective. Not one of the reception issues or other things people were complaining about at the time... it was just defective. Being that stores hadn't even filled all of their pre-orders, there wasn't a chance in hell I was getting a replacement any time soon. I decided, since that had been my 3rd iPhone (had an original 2g, and a 3G-S before it) that I'd head to the Android side and try it out.
I don't remember how I found out about the Captivate, but I think a friend mentioned it and we started looking into it. It seemed like a great phone, but it wasn't being released until about 2 weeks down the line at this point in time. I spoke to some folks at Best Buy where I had bought the iPhone 4 and expressed my interest in the Captivate. I was able to get the Aria for the time being, and return it with no return fee and exchange it for the Captivate when it was released.
My first reactions with the Aria were mixed. I was blown away by Android from the start, but knowing (spec's wise) that the Captivate was a better phone I never took the time to fully appreciate it. I was also naive to many things about it since I was new to Android and hadn't fully wrapped my head around it yet. So, then I got my Captivate and dove head first into Android. At first I loved it. It's a powerful phone and does a lot of things real well. It has its downsides, though. My biggest gripe at first was the GPS. I use a GPS pretty frequently for various things, and I hadn't bought a new standalone GPS unit because I had this phone. So it not working mattered to me. It rarely connected at all until the over the air update. Then I randomly had problems with it turning itself off. My first one was fine for months, then one day I pulled it out of my pocket to check the time and it was off. Then it happened again the next day... and then twice the next. I got a warranty replacement. That one did the same thing after a month. Got that one replaced... lasted about 2 weeks, same problem. I charge the phone once a night when I get home from work until it's full, and unplug it afterwards. The battery usually lasts me to at least 40% even with heavy use on the average day... so can't see it being that I messed up all 3 batteries some how. Also, when I'd turn it back on the battery was never dead. I've never had a similar problem with any of the smartphones I've had in the past.
So, I went back to AT&T and told them I want an Aria instead. I had done some research on the Andriod phones available on AT&T currently and I thought it would be my next best option. I went on different forums, read reviews, went into stores and played with the different options, etc. I knew I would be making some concessions and giving up some things, but at this point I just wanted a reliable smartphone.
So I've had the Aria for a few days now (less than a week), but I already realize so many things that I hadn't noticed in comparison to the Captivate at first because I was new to Android and didn't know better. Here's my list:
1. I love Sense. I was ready to load up ADW right away because I was use to using it, because TouchWiz sucked. I can't see myself replacing Sense anytime soon.
2. The GPS works perfectly. Connects just about instantly, and is way more accurate than any of my Captivate's were.
3. I actually appreciate the small size more now after having a big 4" screen for a while. While it was weird to type on the smaller screen at first, SwiftKey made that all better. Now I don't want a big screen phone anymore.
4. Based off of the dBm and asu numbers, I actually get a little better reception on my Aria at the places I frequent most.
5. A lot of my favorite apps run generally less buggy on the Aria then on any of my Captivates. Handcent is one of them, for example.
6. Now, I don't know or care why, but stock vs. stock my Aria seems smoother, snappier, and faster navigating around general apps and such. No, games don't play better on it for obvious reasons. Everything else that I use, though... not laggy at all.
The bad:
1. Storage... not a lot of room for apps (though, I haven't run out yet). I stuck my 16gig stick in it for pictures and such, but without Froyo on it yet, the low internal storage thing kinda sucks. Yes I know I can put a froyo rom on it and store apps to SD. I may, but right now I don't have any need to.
2. The camera doesn't compare. The only thing it matches up to is megapixels, which mean nothing really. The Captivate camera, even without a flash, is amazing. The Aria camera still does the trick for simple stuff, though.
3. The optical wheel can be finicky, but maybe I'm just not use to it yet.
4. I wish the screen was a little bigger for certain websites and things... but its really not as bad as I'd thought it would be.
In all honestly... those 4 things are the worst I can say about it so far. It's a great phone, and its changed what I thought I "needed" in a smartphone.

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Currently rocking a captivate, love the phone but thinking about getting a galaxy tab and downsizing my phone to aria with CM and overclocked to 850. I can make about 200$ towards the tab purchase selling my cappy and picking up a aria.
Any input? anyone make the move from a bigger screen?
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I have a Captivate and my wife has the Aria.
Captivate rocking Cognition FroYo
Aria rocking Cyanogen FroYo
The Aria is a great little phone and I'm always tinkering with it BUT the difference in screen size and resolution is so many worlds apart that I don't think I could ever downgrade on the screen. It's like the difference between high and standard def tv. Now that I have a nice HD TV I cannot stand to watch standard definition anymore. The Super Amoled screen cannot be beat.
Besides the screen size, from a Captivate point of view, the keyboard can be a little cramped but i can still use but just not as easy.
It sounds like you will be using the Aria for normal phone stuff and your Galaxy Tab will become your surfing and gaming machine. That would be a pretty cool setup if you didn't mind carrying 2 devices. The ultimate setup if you could afford it would be the Captivate and the Galaxy Tab!
I know the Captivate has gotten a bad rap, but I have not had any issues with mine. GPS is weak but it does work but then again I have GPS in my vehicles so I don't really use it.

Thanks for the replies guys, I just want a smaller phone.. I think im going to pick up a Aria on craigslist and give it a go for a few days, can always sell it again.
Thanks again!

(Q) Need Some Feedback From Current Epic Owners

Hey guys,
I was an Evo owner over the last 7 months and have jumped ship to join the Epic 4G world. What I wanted to know is as far as reliability, have you guys experienced or heard of any issues both to rooted and stock Epics? If so, what seems to trigger these problems. I ask because I had been through a big problem with my EVOs that turned out to be a pretty common issue. Apparently, a lot of EVOs seem to like rebooting on their own at random times throughout the day. It usually occurred during phone calls or while using applications that use up a lot of juice. To me, it seemed as though it was due to an overheating motherboard caused by the large LCD screen that creates more heat and uses more power than AMOLED technology. So, I finally got sick of having to be afraid of using my phone and decided it wasn't worth the hassle. I have heard a lot of good things regarding the Galaxy S line as far as hardware reliability even though the knock on them is the heavy use of cheap materials. So, I wanted to hear it first-hand from the owners themselves. Any and all feedback would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance and looking forward to pimping out my new Epic!

Vipermuscle83 said:
Hey guys,
I was an Evo owner over the last 7 months and have jumped ship to join the Epic 4G world. What I wanted to know is as far as reliability, have you guys experienced or heard of any issues both to rooted and stock Epics? If so, what seems to trigger these problems. I ask because I had been through a big problem with my EVOs that turned out to be a pretty common issue. Apparently, a lot of EVOs seem to like rebooting on their own at random times throughout the day. It usually occurred during phone calls or while using applications that use up a lot of juice. To me, it seemed as though it was due to an overheating motherboard caused by the large LCD screen that creates more heat and uses more power than AMOLED technology. So, I finally got sick of having to be afraid of using my phone and decided it wasn't worth the hassle. I have heard a lot of good things regarding the Galaxy S line as far as hardware reliability even though the knock on them is the heavy use of cheap materials. So, I wanted to hear it first-hand from the owners themselves. Any and all feedback would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance and looking forward to pimping out my new Epic!
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The knock on the Galaxy S line is not the use of cheap materials, its actually people complaining that its body if fully made of plastic...but people group that up to say that is poor build quality..which it is not..a lot of the component inside the Galaxy S are manufactured by Samsung themselves, and these components are used in varies devices rom EVO, to iphone to etc...
As far as build quality it is actually superior if you look at a teardown video..but as stated..people "group up" poor build quality to be associated with having a plastic body..while plastic may not be people's first choice it is quite durable if not more durable then an EVO...

Well first off i have to say that the epic is the coolest phone i have ever seen and used. when i bought mine it was toss up over the epic or the evo. I hate touch screens i really do. so the fact that the epic had a keyboard and the evo didnt was the selling factor for me. my uncle has an evo. now both phone are great phones but in my opinion the epics screen is so much better. the color and clarity is alot better. i like everything on the epic better than the evo with one exception. the gps on the epic is pure crap. with 2.2 and the skyfire browser, web browsing on the epic is just the same as browsing from a netbook, only smaller. so yeah my only complaint is i wish the gps worked. on 2.1 it works only sometimes and on 2.2 it doesent work at all.

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Well first off i have to say that the epic is the coolest phone i have ever seen and used. when i bought mine it was toss up over the epic or the evo. I hate touch screens i really do. so the fact that the epic had a keyboard and the evo didnt was the selling factor for me. my uncle has an evo. now both phone are great phones but in my opinion the epics screen is so much better. the color and clarity is alot better. i like everything on the epic better than the evo with one exception. the gps on the epic is pure crap. with 2.2 and the skyfire browser, web browsing on the epic is just the same as browsing from a netbook, only smaller. so yeah my only complaint is i wish the gps worked. on 2.1 it works only sometimes and on 2.2 it doesent work at all.
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I can definitely relate with your screen comparison. Before the EVO, I had the Nexus One with T-Mobile (Still my favorite phone EVER) and the AMOLED screen is LIGHTYEARS ahead of the crap LCDs.
Now, about that GPS problem...I've heard a little bit about the GPS problems concerning the Epic. Are there any fixes out for it whether through OTA updates or developers? If so, how well does the GPS work with the fix? I'm not too concerned with the GPS problems just because it's a software flaw that can be fixed but I would think that after the Epic has been out now for over 3 1/2 months, they would have figured a way to fix that problem already.

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The knock on the Galaxy S line is not the use of cheap materials, its actually people complaining that its body if fully made of plastic...but people group that up to say that is poor build quality..which it is not..a lot of the component inside the Galaxy S are manufactured by Samsung themselves, and these components are used in varies devices rom EVO, to iphone to etc...
As far as build quality it is actually superior if you look at a teardown video..but as stated..people "group up" poor build quality to be associated with having a plastic body..while plastic may not be people's first choice it is quite durable if not more durable then an EVO...
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That's really helpful information gTen, and it definitely gives me a lot more confidence. Honestly man, I'm just so sick of not being able to mess around with my phone for fear of breaking it. I tend to dabble A LOT at hacking these Androids and the Nexus One was a beast for being able to handle anything I threw at it. My first Evo was great for a couple months and then it just suddenly started going to hell out of the blue.
Now, even though I hack my phones and do alter them quite a bit, I don't do anything that pushes them to the brink of failure...NOT EVEN CLOSE! I usually have a pretty good idea of how much the phone can handle and I don't get too close to the max but with the EVO, simply putting CM6 without changing the kernal or theming seemed like too much. Even my buddies 2 day old STOCK Evo started rebooting randomly about 5-10 times in a 3 hours span right in front of me. We went to the mall to exchange it immediately thereafter. I've seen people that have had this problem whether rooted or stock and I just can't believe that so many people have had this issue and HTC sits on the sidelines and does nothing to fix the issue. I used to be all about HTC until this huge flaw with the EVO rattled my confidence in their phones. I'm hoping I won't be saying the same about Samsung 6 months from now.

if you read other posts in these forums there are ways of flashing back and forth from rom to rom using a program called odin but at the same time ive read that people have problems with drivers and such and it not working right. im a noob and afraid that if i tried doing all of that id ruin my phone. i miss the gps when it worked but if i get lost theres always mapquest lol.

I would just say that my experience with the epic has been amazing. I came from and htc touch diamond which was a good phone but nothing compared to the original touch which I loved, romed, and used for 2 years, but this phone owns those phones by so much(htc). The fact the samsung has given us an amazing base recovery system as well as download mode( which I think is key for any dev phone) not to mention clockworkmod and rom manager, shows great software management potential. If samsung isn't saying that this is great hardware then I don't know why they would make their flagship phone(nexus s) almost a clone other than a few minor upgrades. Rumors are amuck that these phones will be some of the first to see gingerbread updates. Gps wise I have seen great improvement through the test leaks and now on dk28 I get a lock within 5 feet 90% of the time. When we get source I think we will see amazing things from across the galaxy s line, and most of them will be on or ported to the epic. Just my bit for ya;-)
sent by my Nexus S with a keyboard.

I can tell you that gps doesn't seem to be a problem with newer epics. I got mine nov 18 (HW 700.5) and didn't have a problem with gps till I attempted the 2.2.1 update that "leaked" (setup leak). My only major complaint is the slide your finger across notification area brightness control that can't be disabled.... and lack of google apps account support in 2.1 (I miss the most in 2.2). These are not really issues with the phone. Just software that can be fixed. I get good battery life (most of my work day using task killer, which I liked not having to use one in 2.2 got same battery life without TK).
The screen is really nice. Been renting movies on mediahub using the $50 credit. Not worth buying if you can't stream to tv samsung!!
I am happy with my purchase now that I know sprint planned on removing those minor bugs I had and hope they don't trade it with a major (gps).
Hope any of this helps...
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ErlyD said:
.... and lack of google apps account support in 2.1 (I miss the most in 2.2)....
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What can you do with a google apps account in 2.2 that you can't do in 2.1? I use my work email(google apps) with the gmail application and the talk application without issue.

thanks guys these responses have been exactly what I was looking for. here's another important question. what is the fastest rom available for the Epic? I really don't look for a busy user interface I look for speed, high quadrant scores, and more of a stripped down look...let's say the closest rom to CM6 that's not glitchy. it would be a plus if it also removes touchwiz but not mandatory. Thanks again guys

Vipermuscle83 said:
thanks guys these responses have been exactly what I was looking for. here's another important question. what is the fastest rom available for the Epic? I really don't look for a busy user interface I look for speed, high quadrant scores, and more of a stripped down look...let's say the closest rom to CM6 that's not glitchy. it would be a plus if it also removes touchwiz but not mandatory. Thanks again guys
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i heard from a friend of mine the ViperRom is super fast and smooth. I'll try it soon. Th Nebula is also very good in terms of speed and stability from what I read from this forum. So you may try both of them

Vipermuscle83 said:
thanks guys these responses have been exactly what I was looking for. here's another important question. what is the fastest rom available for the Epic? I really don't look for a busy user interface I look for speed, high quadrant scores, and more of a stripped down look...let's say the closest rom to CM6 that's not glitchy. it would be a plus if it also removes touchwiz but not mandatory. Thanks again guys
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I'm running mammons bonsai4all and compared to quantum 1.5 is a lot smoother but I haven't tried q2.0 or viper. Viper to me seems like a final product where as quantum and bonsai seem to be more barebones and you can add more of what you want. But until we get source on 2.2 kernel, these roms are all really similar other than acessories and a few small mostly visual tweaks. Serious kernel tweaks wil be what sets these phones apart from the rest.
sent by my Nexus S with a keyboard.

So far, I'm leaning towards Viper. I have selfish reasons to like that Rom too...it goes along with my username and my car

windyhawk said:
i heard from a friend of mine the ViperRom is super fast and smooth. I'll try it soon. Th Nebula is also very good in terms of speed and stability from what I read from this forum. So you may try both of them
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Hey windyhawk, I'm from the CHI and a die-hard Hawks fan!!! LOL. What a small world! I can't believe the way they just blew that damn game to the POS Avs! I'm so PO'ed it's not even funny!

Other apps dont see a google account on my phone. Like youtube, listen, fi.ance,etc all google apps. Google apps account are visible. In 2.2 everything works as it should. Im lucky google reader worked. The only one that does.
How many google app accounts on your phone?#
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Vipermuscle83 said:
thanks guys these responses have been exactly what I was looking for. here's another important question. what is the fastest rom available for the Epic? I really don't look for a busy user interface I look for speed, high quadrant scores, and more of a stripped down look...let's say the closest rom to CM6 that's not glitchy. it would be a plus if it also removes touchwiz but not mandatory. Thanks again guys
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Cgm is being ported by noobnl. Should be a thread near the top in this forum
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This has made my day! Can't wait for the finished product. There really is no other rom like CM

I've had no issues with the epic except for some software factors, due to samsung not updating there phones fast enough, other then that pretty flawless.

I wonder what it is about the Samsung Galaxy S line that makes these software updates such a difficult task.

[Q] Does the Atrix live up to the Hype?

Ok guys ive been reading mixed comments about the Atrix that its good and that its not. I was in 2 minds whether to get the Atrix or the LG Optimus 2X. Originally I was gonne get which ever I could get my hands on 1st. Both have their pros and cons i.e. camera, ram, locked bootloader, screen quality, internal memory etc
Well I decided to get the LG and this comment made in the o2x forum sealed it
Ive been using my atrix couple weeks an am falling out of love with it fast, after yesterday it ramdomly shut off 2x an today once sofar. The screen is beging to bother me the screendoor washed out look. Allready returned lapdock, that cant even compare to a real laptop in my opion. So im looking hard at the Lg 2x for an upgrade of camera, gyroscope, performance, faster upgrade to gingerbread, real mirroring, 1080p recording an play back, 7.1 sound, totaly unlocked phone. Yes 512mb memory is trade off, but operating system will handly that, an the battery is non issue, I'll have a spare battery or a charging source anyway. Not to mention not paying 20/month to not tether, an having my data speeds throttled down to 1.5mb down an 310kb up lat of 350-800. An Atrix doesnt do LTE
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But now im stiill thinking what to do as Im so impatient and want a dual core phone asap. So I made this poll to see everyones view

Coming from a N1, there's not that much improvement. I'm satisfied, but not amazed by this phone. Still debating if I should return it and wait it out.
My impressions:
-Definitely faster, everything is much snappier, but browsing-wise there's not much of a difference.
-Screen is bright and sharp (as long as you don't put your face within inches of the screen you won't really notice the pentile display. But it's still an annoyance when you notice it)
-Camera is marginally better. Pretty disappointing for a flagship device. Plus the media gallery lags like this is a 2 year old phone when zooming in and out.
-GPS is amazing
-Pretty much Motorblur slows this phone's speed and potential. If this device was stock or able to flash truly custom ROMs, it'd be screaming in speed and blow every competitor out of the water.
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Custom ROMS would make it a whole lot better.

19 voters.. 2 responses.. lol
I think it lives up to the hype.. couple quirks I miss from my captivate but.. besides that the phone is solid.
Now I just got to wait for Tango to support our phones :T

Came from the LG Expo. A much better improvement than the last generation phones. The phone just beats about everything out of the expo. Only thing getting to me is that the expo's fingerprint scanner doubled as a trackpad (would've been nice to have for editing text's)

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Custom ROMS would make it a whole lot better.
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This pretty much summed it up

I think this is a situation that there is not enough tangible usage of a dual core for majority of people. Most of people wont notice any improvements in UI speed. We need evolution of software just like in iOS that despite this same architecture people could understand what the new software is bring them.
It feels a bit like a premature technology and we are all living dreaming of tomorrow while we are beta testing for Motorola/Samsung/HTC.
Just 2 cents.

Believe what you want but I love the Atrix. Had a captivate and it doesn't compare. My phone has never rebooted or lagged- I don't know what others do to theirs but my phone is rock solid.
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I'm lovin mine all around. For people who return it because of locked bootloader, I'd say that you knew that when you bought it if it's a dealbreaker.

The webtop dock alone has made this phone exceed the hype. All thanks to the devs
You guys rock
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i have a nexus one and now and atrix and have had it for about a week and i love it. It works great, no random reboots or anything ... just smooth sailing.
I know i can not customize it like I could my N1 but I think that day will come in time. I'll wait ...

Yes, it lived up to the hype in my opinion.

Came from Nexus One. Love the Atrix. It fast and solidly built. Im not sure why everyone said motorblur slow the phone down. I use ADW launcher and it scream.

The Atrix doesn't live up to the Best of CES 2011 hype. The locked bootloader, 1080p "coming soon" recording, overpriced lapdock, overpriced multimedia dock, and good-but-not-great screen keep it from living up to the incredible hype it garnered when it was announced.
Your poll is worded slightly differently: Was the Atrix worth it?
I just came from an ancient Iphone 3g, so the Atrix is absolutely amazing in pretty much every way compared to it and finally getting to use my upgrade was absolutely worth it!
I originally tried out a Captivate for about a week back when I first came up for an upgrade last november. It kept turning itself off (not sleep, total shutdown so I wouldn't receive calls, txt, email ect.) which was a deal breaker. The useless GPS didn't help it's case either. Screen was gorgeous, speed was decent, build quality was ok, battery life was ok. Anyways, I sent the Captivate back after a week, I couldn't have a phone that didn't take phone calls.
First and foremost I love the speed. This thing is lightning fast and seems to have horsepower to burn under the hood. Second is the battery life, I get home from work most of the time with over 40% battery power remaining which is absolutely astounding, my iphone couldn't make it through a full day without getting some juice at my desk and while the captivate did, it was usually at 10-15%. I'm also using the Atrix more than either of the others because I don't feel like I have to conserve battery power to make it through the day.
After those two big features, there are a bunch of less important things that I like:
Finger print scanner is great, I can unlock the phone without even looking at it. I know this doesn't sound important, but it's surprisingly useful when I'm just trying to pull information off my phone quickly and can have it already unlocked as I'm pulling it out of my pocket.
GPS is the best I've experienced on a phone, and better than some dedicated GPS units I've had the displeasure to work with.
Build quality (contrary to some reports I've read) is quite good imo. The phone itself is very sturdy feeling when held by the sides. The back cover is a bit flimsy, but it is also what convinced me to skip getting a case for the Atrix, if it gets scratched I'll just get a new back.
Gorilla Glass is not glued to LCD. Should keep repair costs down.
HDMI out is great, webtop with working firefox extensions is awesome.
Some good, some bad:
Screen resolution is good (colors not so much). The auto-brightness seems to be set a little low imho. I only notice a pentile effect on particularly small+thin fonts.
Camera is surprisingly good in low-light and indoor conditions. Not especially great overall though, tint seems a little off. May just need to set up a custom photoshop filter to correct it.
Call quality is good in quiet conditions, very clear reception and a detailed microphone. Not so good in noisy or windy conditions, the mic picks up a lot of extraneous noise, people are often asking me what's going on or where I am now based on background noise.
I haven't had much reason to use the front facing camera...frankly with AT&T's network I think video chat is a gimmick more than anything else.
I wonder about the finger print scanner/button longevity.
I wouldn't necessarily say the Atrix is the best phone around, but it was the best phone that fit my requirements (ATT, asap, batt life, fast) and so far I like it a lot.
Running ADW Launcher and really like the Advanced Clock widget.

I took mine back and have the Nexus 1 now; I liked the speed but for the most part, my 2.3.3 phone is about as fast; the main thing slowing these phones down now is the network speeds anyway.
If I'm on a wifi network, they're all pretty much the same speed.
Living up to the hype? Definitely not. There are a lot of small problems with this phone that a lot of people don't like; to me, it feels slightly rushed.

I came from an iPhone 4 and I haven't missed the iPhone experience yet. I started with the HTC Inspire which is a nice phone but the battery is rotten and the volume from the phone was pathetic. The Atrix has been an awesome phone for me. It has pretty good battery life so far and yes there are no truly custom ROMs but Adeo (REDUX) has made the UI lag go away on my end and I know others have said the same thing. I am loving the experience of this phone.
Just know that anytime you get a phone shortly after a better one will come out. It's all user preference and what you want and what you think is important. I'm happy but guy x may not be happy. So use one and if you don't like it don't keep it.

I went from a HTC Fuze directly to the Atrix. I love it. (almost) Everything about it. I have played with the Inspire and a couple other 2.1/2.2 devices (girlfriends captivate) and this thing stomps the crap out of them. The colors are just a little off, but that's probably just me going for an extreme upgrade from the phone I had before.
The *ONLY* gripe I have about it is the locked HSUPA. But with all good things come some bad, I think I'm gonna stick it out with the Atrix. Not only that but Spectral Souls looks amazing on it

Guys, please, help me to make a right decision.
Is it possible to buy AT&T version of Motorola Atrix and use it outside US? Is it simple to unlock it? Or where do you recommend to purchase unlocked phone.
P.$.: does motorola have any plans to upgrade it 2.3/3.1 in the future? As I know it's not the trivial to customize firmware for motorola phones (my old G1 can be customized without any problems).
Thanks a lot.

The phone is great nuff said.... We are all a bit too picky but for what its worth this is really the only phone out right now that can take down the iphone 4. My iphone 4 has just been sitting on my night table since I got the Atrix. Atrix has so much more potential and the Android os is so much more pleasing than iIS. Once the bootloader gets cracked its game over!
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Genixoid said:
Guys, please, help me to make a right decision.
Is it possible to buy AT&T version of Motorola Atrix and use it outside US? Is it simple to unlock it? Or where do you recommend to purchase unlocked phone.
P.$.: does motorola have any plans to upgrade it 2.3/3.1 in the future? As I know it's not the trivial to customize firmware for motorola phones (my old G1 can be customized without any problems).
Thanks a lot.
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Yes, I am using Atrix on my business trips to EU using local sim cards.
Probably, but the timing of updates is another question.
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