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well i was sorta jacked around yesterday, ill be a bit happier if and when i get my phone today. it's just all the mis info i was given that set me off. nobody seems to be on the same page with sprint. this was more of a rant video than anything. didn't expect it would piss off soo many sprint fans. oh well, life goes on. it's pretty common knowledge sprint has horrid customer service skills. i honestly had no idea the store i went to was a 3rd party because they only sell sprint phones and i was told before they are officially sprint, not some 3rd party rip off.
some really immature responses on the video, i expected better from adults. i have every reason to vent like most of you do.

Wow. Whine much? Not exactly end of the world situation there, and stepping on pile of crap is part of life.

Too long
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Maybe sprint just doesn't like you. I hear at&t wants customers
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This service does seem bad, but why was it necessary to have the phone in 1 day? If you order it online it usually takes at least 2 days, probably more. Plus you already have your old phone, so what was the urgency?

I want my 5 minutes back.

dpriz said:
This service does seem bad, but why was it necessary to have the phone in 1 day? If you order it online it usually takes at least 2 days, probably more. Plus you already have your old phone, so what was the urgency?
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To be a needy annoying customer
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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
want some cheese with that wine

DirtyShroomz said:
To be a needy annoying customer
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LOL
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Move on. Vote with your $.

Yea this dude needs to get over himself unless he trashed his old phone one more day using it wouldnt have killed him.

this guy is an attention whore !
1 of his recent attempts
http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/9...__p__593298636__fromsearch__1&#entry593298636
for those that notice the name
http://localhostr.com/files/5c655d/lol.jpg

I've delt with utility companies with far worse customer service skills than Sprint. Crying about it on YouTube solves nothing.
CheesyNutz said:
this guy is an attention whore !
1 of his recent attempts
http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/9...__p__593298636__fromsearch__1&#entry593298636
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Wow, "hey meet me at 12am, behind the grocery store, come alone and bring cash only" dude says "Ok!"
So this guy is full of stories huh.

[UPDATED: 5/10/12] Sprint's Policy on Handling Rooted Devices

Here is the official document outlining their methods and procedures for handling devices with suspicion of root.

oo reary ??

so basically it's a "please don't root, but if you do...umm...well please don't"?

Seems pretty inoffensive to me. But the stuff about "schoolmarming" a rooter is ridiculous. I'd like to believe that anyone smart enough to find out about and root doesn't need a talking-to. I also doubt that rooted customers take up much of a support center's time overall. Of course, Sprint employees including Korey AKA WDM may say something else about that.

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Seems pretty inoffensive to me. But the stuff about "schoolmarming" a rooter is ridiculous. I'd like to believe that anyone smart enough to find out about and root doesn't need a talking-to. I also doubt that rooted customers take up much of a support center's time overall. Of course, Sprint employees including Korey AKA WDM may say something else about that.
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well, they don't want you to root for obvious reasons... tethering probably being the biggest one. Plus having to replaced bricked phones would be another. I can see their perspective... and instantly disregard it

Lol
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.

This is funny
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Appreciate the info but this does not seem to cover what it means if they open a ticket and note that the device is suspected of root. Now with this suspect of root does this then give them an out on replacing or repairing?
Again this is all coming from my experience of my local and only place to get service, threatening to blacklist my phone if he "suspected" root.
Here is the Emeryville, CA store number (510) 596-0930 Give them a call and ask if you can bring in your phone for repair if you have root. I bet you will get a "no"

CrippleB said:
Appreciate the info but this does not seem to cover what it means if they open a ticket and note that the device is suspected of root. Now with this suspect of root does this then give them an out on replacing or repairing?
Again this is all coming from my experience of my local and only place to get service, threatening to blacklist my phone if he "suspected" root.
Here is the Emeryville, CA store number (510) 596-0930 Give them a call and ask if you can bring in your phone for repair if you have root. I bet you will get a "no"
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Print this pdf out and show it to them. Tell them it came from ISC in the "Service and Repair" section. If they ask how you got it, tell them it doesn't matter and that it is your job to know these things.
Yes it is noted that your phone is rooted, but like it says if there is an issue with a phone that cannot be fixed that will Advance Exchange it. No matter what. Trust me. If you have a problem just PM me and then I'll call.

Thanks for the info. The local reseller he wouldn't touch mine when she saw it was rooted. Mind you I took it in for the slider being loose and first thing she did was scroll through my apps and look for super user, then promptly showed me the door.
Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G.

I wouldn't even walk into a Sprint store without having first used ODIN to get back to 100% stock. I don't want to give any Sprint tech/rep an excuse to play the blame game with my device/account.

nikon120 said:
I wouldn't even walk into a Sprint store without having first used ODIN to get back to 100% stock. I don't want to give any Sprint tech/rep an excuse to play the blame game with my device/account.
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For sure. My display went out and managed to Odin blind through download mode before going in for service.

tenaciousj said:
Thanks for the info. The local reseller he wouldn't touch mine when she saw it was rooted. Mind you I took it in for the slider being loose and first thing she did was scroll through my apps and look for super user, then promptly showed me the door.
Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G.
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Who in their right mind would bring back a rooted phone expecting it to be covered/serviced. One with a working display for that matter.

You people are absolutely ridiculous.
I've been telling you all this for weeks now, and now korey posts one of the documents I was referring to, and you STILL choose to not only waste your time by going to stock, but making it harder for us to replicate and solve issues by not handing us the phone in the original environment when you found the issue. That can make it very hard at times to properly triage and repair a phone; think of it like forensics, a crime scene is only properly diagnosed when NOTHING IS TOUCHED.
So please, save me the frustration, and simply bring this doc in with you. And if they give you a hard time, tell them to look up the OTHER doc, the one that outlines which tier rooted phones fall in to (tier 2, btw, which dictates a $35 charge if you don't have TEP and free if you do. Which, hey, guess what, is the same ****ing tier as a nonrooted phone! Who would've thunk it!)
And to whoever says educating a customer is unneccessary because obviously they're smart enough blah blah blah...you're ignorant. Very very ignorant. Because no, I didn't get that customer that came in no less than SIX times with a bricked epic from just ATTEMPTING to root, actually ROOTED it for him, and flashed godamn srf, and yet still returned A SEVENTH ****ING TIME with a bricked epic. No, that definitely didn't happen. No way. There's just no way freaking way somebody who is interested in "hacking" their phone is actually an idiot. Nope.
Ridiculous
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squshy 7 said:
You people are absolutely ridiculous. "Oh! Well now that whosdaman said it!..." But that still isn't stopping you from being ignorant.
I've been telling you all this for weeks now, and now korey posts one of the documents I was referring to, and you STILL choose to not only waste your time by going to stock, but making it harder for us to replicate and solve issues by not handing us the phone in the original environment when you found the issue. That can make it very hard at times to properly triage and repair a phone; think of it like forensics, a crime scene is only properly diagnosed when NOTHING IS TOUCHED.
So please, save me the frustration, and simply bring this doc in with you. And if they give you a hard time, tell them to look up the OTHER doc, the one that outlines which tier rooted phones fall in to (tier 2, btw, which dictates a $35 charge if you don't have TEP and free if you do. Which, hey, guess what, is the same ****ing tier as a nonrooted phone! Who would've thunk it!)
And to whoever says educating a customer is unneccessary because obviously they're smart enough blah blah blah...you're ignorant. Very very ignorant. Because no, I didn't get that customer that came in no less than SIX times with a bricked epic from just ATTEMPTING to root, actually ROOTED it for him, and flashed godamn srf, and yet still returned A SEVENTH ****ING TIME with a bricked epic. No, that definitely didn't happen. No way. There's just no way freaking way somebody who is interested in "hacking" their phone is actually an idiot. Nope.
Ridiculous
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Nice post.
Also .... am i the only one cracking up everytime i see one of those
"Siemens" ad on xda ?

tenaciousj said:
Thanks for the info. The local reseller he wouldn't touch mine when she saw it was rooted. Mind you I took it in for the slider being loose and first thing she did was scroll through my apps and look for super user, then promptly showed me the door.
Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G.
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My slider is loose, its extremely annoying is this anything fixable by them?
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ac16313 said:
My slider is loose, its extremely annoying is this anything fixable by them?
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If they have harvested parts, yes
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And allow me to reiterate, any trouble you get for a rooted device IN NO WAY IS A REFLECTION OF SPRINT. It is a reflection of the employee, and their laziness/ignorance/misconceptions. Fight them, because they are wrong.
Also, I cannot speak for 3rd party stores (your typical mall retailers). Not only do they sometimes operate under *slightly* different rules that I'm not privy to, but some of them frequently operate poorly and intentionally misguide you.
A classic and shockingly common example is sending us customers with liquid damage, telling them that we'll replace a liquid damaged phone for free if they complain enough.
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squshy 7 said:
If they have harvested parts, yes
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Would they charge? If so how much? I'm not on TEP.
Thanks.
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ac16313 said:
Would they charge? If so how much? I'm not on TEP.
Thanks.
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$35, but it is open enrollment this month so you can get tep added
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You just won a new Ipad ... adware :(

i was using my TF, and suddenly, i got a message in my task bar... "you just won a new Ipad"...the icon was a star, and when i clicked on it, it just disappeared, and tried to open my browser (i cancelled)
anyone know which app comes with this? i feel violated.
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Go to the market and download airpush detector. This will show you which app has it. Then go and leave a bad review before you delete it to warn others!

thanks so much, it was flikie wallpaper hd =/
it didn't have that before...but i guess from the last update, it does now. too bad, i got my current wallpaper from that app.
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True story. I received one of those "you've won an ipad" ads in an app I was using during the summer. I clicked on it, and like you experienced, I was directed to a browser which asked me to enter my cell number. Instead of doing that, I emailed the company and asked if I could speak with someone about claiming my prize. An hour later and a few email/phone calls later, I was told an iPad was on the way. Two business days later, purolator showed up and delivered me a new iPad 2 I never view those ads as scams anymore ;-)
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Correction... UPS delivered it, not purolator LOL
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EP2008 said:
Correction... UPS delivered it, not purolator LOL
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I call bull****.
/10char

infamousjax said:
I call bull****.
/10char
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Oh c'mon, he's Canadian, what do you expect, eh?

infamousjax said:
I call bull****.
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How can I prove it to you? You want to facetime? Wan't a copy of the UPS slip (I'm sure I scanned a copy to evernote)? Copies of the email I sent? I'd put up the site where they have my "testimonial" for winning the prize, I don't think they used my full name. PM me and let me know
EDIT: Alright, here's the winners page http://www.guessology.com/web/game/winners I'm "Eric P." , hence my screen name "EP"2008
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EP2008 said:
How can I prove it to you? You want to facetime? Wan't a copy of the UPS slip (I'm sure I scanned a copy to evernote)? Copies of the email I sent? I'd put up the site where they have my "testimonial" for winning the prize, I don't think they used my full name. PM me and let me know
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If you're telling me that an advertisement popped up on your tablet saying "You have won a free iPad", and then you proceeded to somehow attain a number to the "company" behind the advertisement which in turn shipped you a new iPad with completely no strings attached then there is nothing you can say or show me that will convince me that it actually happened.
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infamousjax said:
If you're telling me that an advertisement popped up on your tablet saying "You have won a free iPad", and then you proceeded to somehow attain a number to the "company" behind the advertisement which in turn shipped you a new iPad with completely no strings attached then there is nothing you can say or show me that will convince me that it actually happened.
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I've got lots of proof, what do you want to see? I put my testimonial and provided a link.
Basically, the ad was at the bottom of the app, it didn't "pop up". It clearly said that I had WON, not "you have a chance to win", so I felt that I could certainly pressure them with a threat to report them and to my surprise, I received an email with a phone number I could call to speak with someone. I was congratulated, I had to fill out the "testimonial" and that was it - the lady gave me a tracking number via email and a few business days later, I was an ipad owner.
I'm still telling this story everywhere I go, because I would have NEVER thought that these ads could be legit. The key was that it said "you won"... most ads don't say that, they say "enter to win" or some other bs. In fact, my father came across a banner ad that said "guaranteed winner", so I called them up and refused to fill out anything online. I did "win", but it was a crappy gift certificate for some travel auction, so that was a bust! LOL
EDIT: I have a screenshot of the ad, as I collected a lot of evidence before contacting the company. The link that I clicked on redirects to a REAL scam site now! LOL
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*makes popcorn*
This should be fun!

You have to be one of the few people that actually won.
Call yourself lucky and dismiss the doubters.
On that note, I wonder what the ratio is of people that buy and iPad vs have one given to them by somebody else? In my personal circle it's about 50/50. (Anybody want to get me a Transfromer Prime )

CAn you send me an iPad if you win another. I never win anything

thebadfrog said:
I never win anything
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If you have good health, enjoy it. I've been housebound for close to two years due to illness and I'd give up these devices in a heartbeat to have my health back.
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EP2008 said:
If you have good health, enjoy it. I've been housebound for close to two years due to illness and I'd give up these devices in a heartbeat to have my health back.
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I don't have good health and am currently suffering from degenerative disc disease which is robbing me of everything. This has nothing to do with whether I win stuff or not.
No disrespect intended and I beg your forgiveness if I have offended you in any way.

thebadfrog said:
I don't have good health and am currently suffering from degenerative disc disease which is robbing me of everything. This has nothing to do with whether I win stuff or not.
No disrespect intended and I beg your forgiveness if I have offended you in any way.
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I never took what you said as disrespect at all. Winning something like this is pretty amazing - it certainly helped take my mind off some of my troubles, and still (after many months of having it), I think it's a fluke that I actually got this ipad.
I say turn off all your ad-blocking software for a week and if you see anything that states that you HAVE WON (it must say that you've won, not that you have a chance of winning), call up the company and ask how you can get your prize You might have to be persistent with some of them as they often expect you to be a "client", but insist that you want your prize without any catches. Make sure you take screen shots of the ad and the page it takes you to as well as noting the URL address.
I was trying to get another company to send me an I pad that I had "won", but they were in germany and threatening to report them for fraud didn't phase them at all...
Good luck!
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More CIQ Headlines

Carrier IQ Tries to Censor Research With Baseless Legal Threat
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/11/carrieriq-censor-research-baseless-legal-threat
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?fo...it-brouhaha/&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13220578434512
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?fo...ny-carrieriq&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13220579318351
http://briefmobile.com/a-conversation-with-andrew-coward-marketing-vp-of-carrier-iq
http://briefmobile.com/breaking-carrier-iq-has-withdrawn-cease-and-desist-order-on-tevor-eckhart
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/...y-legal-threat-apologizes-security-researcher

Cease and desist for PUBLIC files posted on a PUBLIC web site? If people were on the fence about CIQ before, this should give them pause. When I first read about CIQ it seemed like a good way for my carrier to find additional information about dropped calls, but clearly it is much, much worse.

The reply outlined in the first PDF is one awesome legal kick in the nuts. Definitely beats my "lolumad" defense strategy.

CIQ is the devels syknet.
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Several people seen this coming.
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i dont see how ciq isnt illegal.
no one signs a contract to allow them to monitor what we do on our phones.
that sort of thing should require a contract or atleast some knowledge to the people that buy these phones.
no one would willingly allow them to gather information on us and even sell it.
if we were being credited some money back for allowing them to use it, i guess that would be fair.
i honestly think its ridiculous.
this is only on sprint samsung and htc phones right?

They can, trust me, you wont find CIQ, but you will fi.d we can do what ever we want, pretty much.
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CIQ is DHS dream think about it people the patriot act.
This is just the kinda thing Big Gov loves. All they ask is the keys to the black door & they will look the other way.
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Interestingly, I clicked on the megaupload link in the legal response letter and it is still active.
http://www.multiupload.com/BAAKNNSM3J
The rar file contains the training materials and stock CIQ client apps in question. I figured I would post the link in case the EFF article and pdf's mysteriously disappear.

PC Jona said:
no one signs a contract to allow them to monitor what we do on our phones.
that sort of thing should require a contract or atleast some knowledge to the people that buy these phones.
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Well it may be in our contract. I haven't read the contract, like ~75+% of carrier customers, so we could have agreed to allow Sprint to gather metrics. Regardless of the intrusiveness of this tool, it could be argued that only the metrics gathering segments would be activated. Of course there are always counter arguments.
PC Jona said:
no one would willingly allow them to gather information on us and even sell it.
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Uh... yes they would. If the big 4 carriers in the US all had this on their phones, what are the customers options for cell service? The demand for the service would outweigh the need for privacy. Prime example is the Aviation industry and the TSA.

Now in the portal-
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...gn=Feed:+xda-developers/ShsH+(xda-developers)

Again, these comments are all about worst case scenarios of what this software COULD do, not what it does.
It's about time CIQ and Sprint make some public statements about what this software is collecting. The silence just adds to the paranoia.

So, an interesting discovery lol.
Could you guys look into /dev if you're rooted for me? CM7/MIUI/Stock, it doesn't matter I'm only curious about something.

you guys can't really be surprised about this. Look at the SOPA law running though and how it can devastate how the internet works(torrent sites will still be accessable through typing ip addresses so its really not targetting piracy). AT&T has an agreement with the NSA where the NSA basically can see anything your doing on those phones. Carrier IQ is Verizon and Sprint's Big Brother method. The Patriot Act covers landlines.
sent from my Epic... in the middle of somewhere.

Can someone on stock, look into /dev on their phones and tell me if they see TtyCIQ0, please lol.

AproSamurai said:
Can someone on stock, look into /dev on their phones and tell me if they see TtyCIQ0, please lol.
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On stock (rooted) EI22, ttyCIQ0 is in /dev. I assume that is what you meant.

prodigyplace said:
On stock (rooted) EI22, ttyCIQ0 is in /dev. I assume that is what you meant.
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Yes, it's CIQ from the kernel side. It's fine however, it's not interfacing with the framework, as far as I know. I wanted to be sure that it wasn't some random thing. It's still present in our kernel nonetheless. In our current source in the parts we don't use there are supposedly 90 instances of CIQ. But only 2 lines closely regarding it involving us. All the others are gone due to framework.

That's funny, Android Central posted about this just a bit ago.
http://www.androidcentral.com/security-advocate-eff-go-toe-toe-data-collection-company-carrieriq

Check briefmobile.com Korey had a discussion with ciq.

I'll keep the OP updated as this topic receives more press.

!!! Exemption Legalizing Rooting And Jailbreaking Will Expire SOON !!!

Exemption Legalizing Rooting And Jailbreaking Will Expire, Let’s Petition To Renew It!
Saw THIS article in the XDA portal. I thought it would be in everybody's best interest to check it out. Basically is that the exemption that allows us to legally Root, modify, Hack, or whatever ours phones is going to be Expire SOON. If we don't act it could quite possibly become illegal to Root your own phone. So guys I really think you should check the links out. I believe the deadline is Feb. 10th. Come on guys protect your rights.
Exemption Legalizing Rooting And Jailbreaking Will Expire, Let’s Petition To Renew It!
Submit a comment to the US Copyright Office
SIGN THE PETITION

If that kind of crap passes we all just need to boycott the big boys. That's just a bunch of bulls**t.

Like I've said before. If we don't stand up and be counted, they will slowly take all our rights.

If android is open source then we should be okay if the law passes? I can see it affecting apple which I don't care cause I will never own one of there products
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YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
If android is open source then we should be okay if the law passes? I can see it affecting apple which I don't care cause I will never own one of there products
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Android (A.O.S.P.) may be open source but sense, motoblur, touchwiz, and any other manufacturers ui are all closed source builds... If those companies want to be dicks they can say we are messing with copyrights...
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This is why I hate the united states government I mean really we should stand against them, they don't own us or anything we buy, I hate the fact that the ONLY reason we have a "free country" is they can't touch amendment #2 and I think its about time we take our country back, the government does absolutely nothing but screw us....I could go on all day about that things I literally hate about our government and the funny thing is I can't think of one thing I appreciate from them...and im going to stop it at that....I hope one big ass mistake amaerica reads this too, he knows who he is
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Oh geez, first sopa and now this bs. Honestly I don't care anymore. People were unlocking all types of phones (not just smartphones) before all of this even became legal. There were various hacking sites and guides that never got shut down...people never got arrested ect. They can't stop people from doing whatever the f*** they want to their own phones plain and simple. They can try but I don't think they'll get too far especially now that it's already been exempt once.

sparksco said:
Oh geez, first sopa and now this bs. Honestly I don't care anymore. People were unlocking all types of phones (not just smartphones) before all of this even became legal. There were various hacking sites and guides that never got shut down...people never got arrested ect. They can't stop people from doing whatever the f*** they want to their own phones plain and simple. They can try but I don't think they'll get too far especially now that it's already been exempt once.
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Technically, if you didnt outright buy the device, you are "renting" it... I hate to say it but if you look at your T.O.S. it's in there... Kinda sucks, but... What sprint doesnt know, wont hurt sprint...
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Yes but if you read the Bill Proposel in one of the links. They actually mean all phones. Which is kind of like telling you, that you can only paint the inside of your house White. Regardless if it's yours or not.

drob311 said:
Technically, if you didnt outright buy the device, you are "renting" it... I hate to say it but if you look at your T.O.S. it's in there... Kinda sucks, but... What sprint doesnt know, wont hurt sprint...
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Yeah, I remember the G1 days when a lot of people weren't use to rooting phones and the methods were a lot more difficult such as flashing your eng hboot in a crapy recovery. The brick risk was a lot higher then it is now and easier for people to turn their phones into a paperweight lol. Now days it seems a lot easier to root and if you have some issues to just unroot everything back to stock and your still covered in your T.O.S.

I can still remember when the FCC would not allow retailers to sell phones. They could only be rented from the phone company, and were those clunky square units with the front number pad (or rotary in some cases). Things really have not changed.
PS Before making your jokes about how old I must be, this really was not that long ago (I am younger than 35).

cloverdale said:
I can still remember when the FCC would not allow retailers to sell phones. They could only be rented from the phone company, and were those clunky square units with the front number pad (or rotary in some cases). Things really have not changed.
PS Before making your jokes about how old I must be, this really was not that long ago (I am younger than 35).
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Im with ya... The nokia 910 was one of those old school phones, or what about the 6 inch thick moto flip phones (my very first cell phone ) I remember with the moto there wasn't even text messaging...
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all of the current legislation surounding the tech industry is crap lately. at least SOPA is done with (for now)
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Well bottom line is we either speak, or get swept under the carpet.
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