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Apps2SD for 2.1 Rom?

does anyone have any instructions for apps2Sd for the 2.1 rom? I have no idea what I'm doing with this, and Im tired of not having any space on my phone to dl apps! thanks for any help in advance.

if you are running an a2sd enabled rom,
1. backup your entire sd card to your pc
2. boot into recovery
3. select to partition sd
4. partition to ext 2 and then to ext 3
5. use the default settings of 32mb swap / 512mb data
6. reboot
7. move your previous data back to your sd from your pc
you should be good to go. if you start seeing a significant drop in system memory, go back to recovery and flash the attached zip

troyboytn said:
if you are running an a2sd enabled rom,
1. backup your entire sd card to your pc
2. boot into recovery
3. select to partition sd
4. partition to ext 2 and then to ext 3
5. use the default settings of 32mb swap / 512mb data
6. reboot
7. move your previous data back to your sd from your pc
you should be good to go. if you start seeing a significant drop in system memory, go back to recovery and flash the attached zip
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What if is the 32mb swap & the 512mb Data sizes for? What happens if I make them bigger?

Coldheat1906 said:
What if is the 32mb swap & the 512mb Data sizes for? What happens if I make them bigger?
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actually, you can set swap at 0 (its not used anyway, unless you are gonna use the new Fresh Toast rom)
you can set data to be larger if you like (though not needed unless you are gonna install ALOT of mega mb apps)

Thanks, besides that is there anything else that I need to do or can I just start downloading apps..... Also how can I verify that they are going to my sd card?

Coldheat1906 said:
Thanks, besides that is there anything else that I need to do or can I just start downloading apps..... Also how can I verify that they are going to my sd card?
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go into your command prompt...
adb remount
adb shell
cd /data/app
pwd
if it says /system/sd/app your apps2sd is working! if it says /data/app, it's not

dec3ption said:
go into your command prompt...
adb remount
adb shell
cd /data/app
pwd
if it says /system/sd/app your apps2sd is working! if it says /data/app, it's not
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ok,....now I really feel like a noob.....
When I try to do a adb remount it says "device not found"
I also do have "USB Debug" selected.
Edit: Ok.... had to re-install the SDK..... I think it's working now.

Thanks
Im flashing my rom right now so I will see how this works out

I have a problem
Im using the Fresh rom with android 2.1 which should have app2sd enabled, but for some reason my apps dont go the sd card? Any help with this, I 've formatted based on the instructions, but it doesnt seem to work for me?

troyboytn said:
actually, you can set swap at 0 (its not used anyway, unless you are gonna use the new Fresh Toast rom)
you can set data to be larger if you like (though not needed unless you are gonna install ALOT of mega mb apps)
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I beg to differ...the A2SD version 2.5 will activate swap if it sees the partition. That's the file you posted as part of the instructions.

amallama said:
Im using the Fresh rom with android 2.1 which should have app2sd enabled, but for some reason my apps dont go the sd card? Any help with this, I 've formatted based on the instructions, but it doesnt seem to work for me?
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Validate by doing this:
1. At your computer (in the Android SDK Tools directory), type adb shell
2. Once you are in an adb shell, type ls -l /data
3. Look for the entries app and app-private. The two entries should look like the following:
app -> /system/sd/app
app-private -> /system/sd/app-private
If they don't, you'll need to validate you have an ext3 partition on your sd card.
If you do, download A2SD version 2.5 from http://www.darktremor.com/files/misc/a2sd-2.5-signed.zip and put it on your SD card (in the same place you put custom roms). Go into recovery and flash this file (it won't erase anything...it's just going to install a2sd version 2.5). Reboot phone and perform the same steps above.
If it still isn't working, PM me and I'll continue to help you.

tkirton said:
I beg to differ...the A2SD version 2.5 will activate swap if it sees the partition. That's the file you posted as part of the instructions.
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will it activate swap on any rom?, is it required? can it actually just be left at 0 (users choice) to not use swap?
dont mean to step on toes here, just realized this is your creation (guess you know more than I).....sorry if I spewed some misinfo

troyboytn said:
will it activate swap on any rom?, is it required? can it actually just be left at 0 (users choice) to not use swap?
dont mean to step on toes here, just realized this is your creation (guess you know more than I).....sorry if I spewed some misinfo
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No problem...the previous version (2.0) didn't turn on swap...that was actually handled by another routine from my Darktremor kernel (never released...that's why you never seen it).
If you don't want to activate swap, you can go into the phone and type /system/bin/a2sd noswap. It will put a flag file on the system that, if present, will tell a2sd not to use swap file although one is present.
Swap is not required. If a2sd doesn't see the swap partition, it simply won't activate swap...all other functions will activate as normal.
It will activate swap on any rom provided that the swap partition is using /dev/block/mmcblk0p3 (third partition on the SD card). The sd partition feature on the RA Recovery does this automatically.

hi i have a the wildfire got it rooted but not sure how to install apps2sd,apk im on software 2.1
i did have a custom rom cyanogenmod 6.1 and that had apps2sd but the wildfire 2.1 dosent and would like some advice on how to do it please any help wud b nice thanks

Ext3 Usage app

Hi All,
Does anyone know of an App that can show how full the EXT2 or EXT3 partition of the SD card is?
I've read that there is a command that can be run from the terminal.
The reason I ask is that I have a lot of Apps and am wanting to see if it is worth increasing th size of the EXT3 partition.
Thanks.

jrc91 said:
Hi All,
Does anyone know of an App that can show how full the EXT2 or EXT3 partition of the SD card is?
I've read that there is a command that can be run from the terminal.
The reason I ask is that I have a lot of Apps and am wanting to see if it is worth increasing th size of the EXT3 partition.
Thanks.
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Download Quick System Info from the market. There's a free and a pro version. I find the free version is good enough.

Fyi. The command is
df -h

[GUIDE] How to create a swap partition at my way (the easiest)

I know this topic has been covered many times already, but since I couldn't find a easy and straight forward how-to to create a swap partition on my X8, I am going to walk you through few easy steps that will let you create a swap partition in 5 mins or so.
First things first I assume you have already the latest version of miniCM7 and nAa kernel, although this mini howto should apply for any phone and any rom out there, as long as the kernel supports swap partition.
First thing you want to partition your SD card in order to create our swap partition, I recommend you to follow this accurately.
Now that we have successfully created our swap partition, we want to boot up the phone and enable our swap partition in order to be accessible to the kernel.
To detect the swap partition that we have just created open up a ADB terminal and type
Code:
fdisk -l dev/block/mmcblk0
it will look something like this
Code:
/dev/block/mmcblk0p3 862 966 843412+ 82 Linux swap
write down the exact number of the swap partition and let's activate it by typing
Code:
swapon /dev/block/mmcblk0pX
** where X is the number of the swap partition **
We can now check if our swap partition has been activated by executing the command free
Now we want to make our swap partition to be activated at boot time, without having to activate it manually everytime we reboot the phone.
Assuming you know how to at least write and save a text file in VI, let's go back to our fido ADB shell and type
Code:
vi /data/local/userinit.sh
now lets drop few lines in
Code:
#!/system/bin/sh
#Swap
swapon /dev/block/mmcblk0pX
** where X is the number of the swap partition **
If you are not really comfortable with VI you can also use Nano or even RootExploer or any other root file manager if you are more comfortable with UI.
save it and once again in ADB shell lets make it executable
Code:
chmod a+x /data/local/userinit.sh
As last step you may want to change the swappiness value, note that most of the roms have it set to 60 by default, which is good enough in my opinion, although setting it to higher (max is 100) may help to improve overall performance, while setting it to lower may increase interactivity and overall stability.
Temporary change (until next reboot)
Code:
echo 60 > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
Permanent change
Code:
echo vm.swappiness=60 >> /system/etc/sysctl.conf
As result
Code:
~ # free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 186704 177248 9456 0 116
-/+ buffers: 177132 9572
Swap: 843404 53760 789644
** few notes **
I don't intend to take credit for this how-to as it takes few pieces of commands and hints from any guides out there which covers this topic, and anyways its basic linux knowledge really..
So cheers you all and enjoy

mmcblk0p3 is used when we have 3 partitions on SD and last one is swap.
If we have only 2 (fat+swap like me) it need to be mmcblk0p2
Also mkswap /dev/block/mmcblk0pX need to be done b4 you call swapon.

rav3n_pl said:
mmcblk0p3 is used when we have 3 partitions on SD and last one is swap.
If we have only 2 (fat+swap like me) it need to be mmcblk0p2
Also mkswap /dev/block/mmcblk0pX need to be done b4 you call swapon.
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Yea I forgot to mention that mmcblk0p3 is in my case the swap partition and the number vary depends on how many partitions you have on your SD card.
Btw mkswap isn't needed if you follow my how-to, because Linux Swap file system is already selected when partitioning the SD card, you don't really need to format the swap partition again by using mkswap .

I tought that a partition is need it, to run the swap file, but now I am running it in my sd card without partition it. Is any difference, between partition my sd?

You are using swap file, it can be created by swapper. Swap partition is easier - it will persist when you connect to pc.

Sir_gpm said:
I tought that a partition is need it, to run the swap file, but now I am running it in my sd card without partition it. Is any difference, between partition my sd?
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If you meant what's the difference between using swapper2 and partitioning the SD card is that basically you can assign as much space as you want to your swap partition, while with swapper2 you can't really have more than 250mb of swap.
Also like @rav3n_pl said, when you mount the sdcard on your computer the swap will stay available since it uses its own partition.
Personally I found 250mb of swap too little, my suggestion is to give at least 600mb to the swap partition.
My setup is 800mb of swap and swappiness value set to 70.

I would like to ask you why & in what situation was 256mb swap insufficient?
Did you actually run 'free' in terminal to see how much swap was being used?
I just can't imagine anything running on our phone that will actually use up the whole 256mb swap, unless you are running a linux distro over the top...(less than 1% of users & those users know what they are doing)...the only thing a greater than 256mb swap space partition is doing is decreasing your over-all sd-card capacity for music/files/apps2sd/whatever2sd...
Swap doesn't 'add' ram. We don't magically have 1gb of ram with 800mb swap...
I'm not bashing, I just think new users could easily take this idea the wrong way.
Same as other people advising newer users to set up 1gig+ of swap...it is just unused space on your sd-card.
The best thing about setting up a partition and not using swapper2 is you don't have an app on your phone that is notorious for auto-running, has root access, as well as internet permission. Root access means they can send any info about your phone straight through. Even with Droidwall+similar apps, they don't mean anything to root.

i have fat32 ext3 and swap,ext3 and swap works,but i cant use storage(fat32) phone say its wrong sd card..but in another rom with same kernel works..

hajiborojobo said:
i have fat32 ext3 and swap,ext3 and swap works,but i cant use storage(fat32) phone say its wrong sd card..but in another rom with same kernel works..
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In the linked article is adviced to put a SD card of 2GB or smaller on FAT, maybe that's your solution?

lrakkarl said:
I would like to ask you why & in what situation was 256mb swap insufficient?
Did you actually run 'free' in terminal to see how much swap was being used?
I just can't imagine anything running on our phone that will actually use up the whole 256mb swap, unless you are running a linux distro over the top...(less than 1% of users & those users know what they are doing)...the only thing a greater than 256mb swap space partition is doing is decreasing your over-all sd-card capacity for music/files/apps2sd/whatever2sd...
Swap doesn't 'add' ram. We don't magically have 1gb of ram with 800mb swap...
I'm not bashing, I just think new users could easily take this idea the wrong way.
Same as other people advising newer users to set up 1gig+ of swap...it is just unused space on your sd-card.
The best thing about setting up a partition and not using swapper2 is you don't have an app on your phone that is notorious for auto-running, has root access, as well as internet permission. Root access means they can send any info about your phone straight through. Even with Droidwall+similar apps, they don't mean anything to root.
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I have never said that swap adds ram, not that I want new users to believe that, but in my case 256mb of swap was way too little, especially when it comes to play games and at the same times running apps in background while the phone still remains snappy. Maybe 800mb of swap is a little bit exaggerated, but in my opinion 500mb of swap is a must to have..

rav3n_pl said:
mmcblk0p3 is used when we have 3 partitions on SD and last one is swap.
If we have only 2 (fat+swap like me) it need to be mmcblk0p2
Also mkswap /dev/block/mmcblk0pX need to be done b4 you call swapon.
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Wow, if only I read the second post and not gaze at the OP for 2h, it would have saved me two hours of googling. The OP needs to be modified.

I Create Partion Using ClockwordRecovery MOD its that simple
even swapper works great can any body tell me i am doing something wrong

Can i do this in my wt19i?
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bind9 said:
Can i do this in my wt19i?
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Yes you can. Not sure why you'd need to though, you already have 512Mb RAM.
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Hi all, why I always get this?
mkswap /dev/block/mmcblk0p2
Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 255593472 bytes
swapon /dev/block/mmcblk0p2
swapon: /dev/block/mmcblk0p2: Invalid argument
Also swapper2 is not working either...
I am using last nAa kernel and ROM.
Thanks.

cenovita said:
Hi all, why I always get this?
mkswap /dev/block/mmcblk0p2
Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 255593472 bytes
swapon /dev/block/mmcblk0p2
swapon: /dev/block/mmcblk0p2: Invalid argument
Also swapper2 is not working either...
I am using last nAa kernel and ROM.
Thanks.
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If you have an ext partition then its mmcblk0p3.
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NIMBAH said:
If you have an ext partition then its mmcblk0p3.
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I have just 2, one FAT32 (7gb) and the rest is for the SWAP part, I have tried formatting it with swap and ext3, no case...
look at this:
Disk dev/block/mmcblk0: 8064 MB, 8064598016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 980 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
dev/block/mmcblk0p1 1 922 7405933+ b Win95 FAT
dev/block/mmcblk0p2 923 980 465885 83 Linux
[email protected]:/ # mkswap /dev/block/mmcblk0p2
mkswap /dev/block/mmcblk0p2
Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 255593472 bytes
[email protected]:/ # swapon /dev/block/mmcblk0p2
swapon /dev/block/mmcblk0p2
swapon: /dev/block/mmcblk0p2: Invalid argument
1|[email protected]:/ # free
free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 189448 162852 26596 0 24
-/+ buffers: 162828 26620
Swap: 0 0 0
[email protected]:/ # swapon /dev/block/mmcblk0p3
swapon /dev/block/mmcblk0p3
swapon: can't stat '/dev/block/mmcblk0p3': No such file or directory
1|[email protected]:/ # swapon /dev/block/mmcblk0p3
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BTW, if i partition with minitool, the card is not mountable by the phone... I have to partition with recovery...
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OK, I have partitioned with Recovery and created 1 ext partition of 256Mb and 1 swap partition of 256Mb.
After that, i was able to mount swap in p3 (the swap one).
Minitool, useless for me...

hI DEVS!
I have 2 partitions: Fat32-1,6GB (my files) and ext4-200MB (linked files)
Can i use swap?
If yes... the command will be: swapon /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 ?

hI DEVS!<br />
I have 2 partitions: Fat32-<b>1,6GB </b>(my files) and ext4-<b>200MB</b> (linked files)<br />
Can i use swap?<br />
If yes... the command will be: <b>swapon /dev/block/mmcblk0p2</b> ?
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No you will need to create another partition for swap. The best way is through recovery but that will require reformatting your SD Card.
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Android ICS 4.0.3
Hello,
i have Script und working fine with gscript. But i wont do it in autostart. I copy userinit.sh in data\local\ reboot but i have no swap. I mus the script with gscript.
can anyone help me please.
i have HRC HD2 with CLK-NexusHD2.1HWA ICS-Android 4.0.3
thanks

Setting up EXT4 with EXT4 Recovery Nand to use ParanoidAndroid JellyB SD with WP7

hi, i have been trying to get a dual boot with wp7 (hd20 8779) with android jellybean (paranoidandroid) using ext4 on the sd.
i have right now:
magldr v1.13
ext4 recovery nand
partitions:
1st FAT 14gb
2nd EXT4 1gb (made via ext4 recovery)
there is no 'nativesd' folder that i can see on the sd card (to put the jellyb.zip rom in?) and it (ext4 recovery) will not let me install zip from sd (either jellyb.zip rom or dual installer zip. it just says:
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
Installing update...
Installation aborted.
I am also confused about which rom I should go about installing first at this point. wp7 or droid?
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ok, i was using the wrong android rom. aokp nativesd worked. booted, tested it, all ok. but then i went to install wp7 and it erased it. wp7 booted, worked. took out sd, hooked sd up to computer, repartitioned to have wp7 ||| fat32 ||| ext4, but then when i put it back into phone and booted to wp7 (to make sure it was still there), it said available storage was entire sd card. so i powered down and tried to boot into android. now android was gone. tried to boot into ext4 recovery and that was gone too.
i am very close now. i just need help partitioning this correctly. i know now that the latest version of minitool will let me partition to ext 4 so that's no problem now. can someone please help me set up my partitions so that i don't lose one installation with another? also, i don't know how to check if something is mmcblk0p2 or how to set it to that. i haven't been able to find any instructions in doing so, just mentions of it across the forums.
please help

Okay.
You probably have WP7 now, right? You've already partitioned the card with xboxmod's CABs, haven't you? If not, please do those two steps before continuing.
Windows Phone 7 wipes entire SD card and creates its own partition every time it's installed or hard reset, and because of that you can't install Android ROM first and then WP7.
After that, just take MiniTool, delete the FAT partition and create two new:
First FAT partition, then on the rest create EXT partition. It should be mmcblk0p2 then, but you want to check it anyway. How to was in that thread:
6. (WP7 users) make sure the EXT4 partition is located @ /dev/block/mmcblk0p2
To check this mount your sd-ext partition in 4EXT recovery and use adb shell or QtADB shell and type df
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If you don't have ADB yet, please download Android SDK where that tool is included. Or try QtADB, but I haven't used that one.
That instruction translates to:
1. Run 4EXT Recovery
2. Choose Mount... option
3. Mount /sd-ext
4. Run adb shell (type that in CMD when in folder with adb.exe, I hope you can navigate with CMD)
5. Type df and press enter.
Then install the ROM using 4EXT SD Recovery. Nothing complicated, I hope. That's how I've done that at least.

thank you
Spaqin said:
Okay.
You probably have WP7 now, right? You've already partitioned the card with xboxmod's CABs, haven't you? If not, please do those two steps before continuing.
Windows Phone 7 wipes entire SD card and creates its own partition every time it's installed or hard reset, and because of that you can't install Android ROM first and then WP7.
After that, just take MiniTool, delete the FAT partition and create two new:
First FAT partition, then on the rest create EXT partition. It should be mmcblk0p2 then, but you want to check it anyway. How to was in that thread:
If you don't have ADB yet, please download Android SDK where that tool is included. Or try QtADB, but I haven't used that one.
That instruction translates to:
1. Run 4EXT Recovery
2. Choose Mount... option
3. Mount /sd-ext
4. Run adb shell (type that in CMD when in folder with adb.exe, I hope you can navigate with CMD)
5. Type df and press enter.
Then install the ROM using 4EXT SD Recovery. Nothing complicated, I hope. That's how I've done that at least.
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wp7 is installed. after several searches, i'm not seeing the cab files you're talking about. the current partition structure is 200mb fat ||| 14.67gb 'other' ||| I saw that part in the thread with mmcblk0p2, but I had no idea how to specify that when I made the partition or how to check it. Thank you. Yes, I have the Android SDK (had no idea that's where to find ADB) Thanks for elaborating that for me. I am going to do all this right now!
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how do i check to make sure its mmcblk0p2?
if i just repartition in minitool everything, do i still need the xboxmod cab files i can't find?
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i repartitioned with minitool and this is what i have now:
1st) 7.88mb (free) 0 (used) unallocated logical
2nd) 5.81gb (free) 11.65mb (used?) fat32 logical
3rd) 1.46gb (free) 101.80mb (used?) ext4 primary
4th) 7.67gb (free) 7.67gb (used) unformatted primary
now, i'm going to install ext4recovery nand and try to install android, is this correct?
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i'm not seeing adb anywhere. In android sdk tools i have two shortcuts: AVD Manager and SDK Manager. I don't see adb in either. I'm loaded into EXT4 Recovery Nand now.
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After looking in the android sdk program directory in windows i found adb-has-moved.txt It says:
Code:
The adb tool has moved to platform-tools/
If you don't see this directory in your SDK,
launch the SDK and AVD Manager (execute the android tool)
and install "Android SDK Platform-tools"
Please also update your PATH environment variable to
include the platform-tools/ directory, so you can
execute adb from any location.
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when i get this completely finished, I'm going to do it again to another phone, and I'm going to make a COMPLETE step by step guide from start to finish for noobies like me and post it.
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after going to a cmd prompt and navigating to the 'platform-tools' directory and typing adb, press enter, then typing 'df', press enter, i get this error:
Code:
'df' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
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i'm attaching a screenshot, i used the command 'adb shell' then enter then the command 'df'. although i have no idea if this is doing this to my sd card on my phone which has the sd-ext mounted.

Oh, you resized WP7 like that (with partitioning tool), okay, it's fine too. You will have to hardreset though. No need to use CABs then.
ADB is in C:\android-sdk-windows\platform-tools if you've downloaded it (platform tools) from that installer/updater of course.
Browse there with CMD and use adb shell.
Please remember to set both FAT and EXT4 partitions primary, else it won't work.
After you check if the partition is in that mmc02 thing, you can install the ROM with the recovery.

thank you
Spaqin said:
Oh, you resized WP7 like that (with partitioning tool), okay, it's fine too. You will have to hardreset though. No need to use CABs then.
ADB is in C:\android-sdk-windows\platform-tools if you've downloaded it (platform tools) from that installer/updater of course.
Browse there with CMD and use adb shell.
Please remember to set both FAT and EXT4 partitions primary, else it won't work.
After you check if the partition is in that mmc02 thing, you can install the ROM with the recovery.
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ok i'm attaching a screenshot of my partitions in minitool. i made the fat primary as well. now i'm going to copy over the aokp jellybean rom and try to install it. fingers crossed! also, i hard reset wp7 when i first installed it. i'm afraid if i do it now, it will undo all the partitioning steps i've taken after that. is this correct?
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ok, something went wrong, because after i installed android from ext4 recovery nand, i powered down, booted into magldr 1.13 and selected '1. Boot WPH' and it said: 'WPH not installed.' aaaaaaahhhhhh!!!! lol
any ideas where i might have gone wrong?
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btw, when i booted into android (1st boot) i checked the space, and it said the 5.81gb or whatever it was, so i think the partitions are intact. could this be a 'uselast24NAND' issue? i don't think i did that when i installed wp7, i couldn't remember when i was supposed to do that. ah geeeeeeeez

noobinius said:
ok i'm attaching a screenshot of my partitions in minitool. i made the fat primary as well. now i'm going to copy over the aokp jellybean rom and try to install it. fingers crossed! also, i hard reset wp7 when i first installed it. i'm afraid if i do it now, it will undo all the partitioning steps i've taken after that. is this correct?
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First check that WP7 still boots (if you've followed most of the tutorial for the old dual boot 1 sd card method you should be fine, otherwise you'll have to start over), and don't use 4ext nand recovery (doubt it'll run anyway), you need the 4ext SD version.
Just follow this , with the difference being having 3 partitions at the end ( FAT32|||EXT4|||WP7) then install via a SD ported recovery

thank you
HypoTurtle said:
First check that WP7 still boots (if you've followed most of the tutorial for the old dual boot 1 sd card method you should be fine, otherwise you'll have to start over), and don't use 4ext nand recovery (doubt it'll run anyway), you need the 4ext SD version.
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ok, thanks hypoturtle. ok, i am going to take a little break, then find the sd version of 4ext, then i'm going to task29 this monster with hd2 toolkit and completely start over. i will update this thread with what happens and what i did. when i'm done i plan to make a complete step by step guide with links and all so there will be something with ALL the information and links in one place, placing all credit where it is due to the original developers. i am not a developer.

Yeah, that was the problem. You can't use NAND recoveries when on WP7 because they will format NAND and prepare partitions for Android, deleting WP7. For that you need SD Recovery ported by Xylo (available in NativeSD thread). After WP7 is installed, you don't even touch anything that's NAND related because it will break everything.

Check this video tut http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944288
1. install wp7
2 make android partition as in vid.
You should have after the above.
<50% of sd card volume as FAT32 on first partition (primary)
>50% of volume unformatted (WP7) on second (primary)
Then you can create ext4 partition as second partition (also set as primary), I would use minitool again to shrink your FAT partition (but use 4ext recovery sd to format it see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31247925&postcount=3464 and the post before it)
So you have 3 partitions 1. fat android 2. ext4 3. wp7
I have not tried a smaller wp7 partition than 50%, don't know if it would work but 96edwy has suggested not to do this in vid.

thank you
thank you guys for your help. i have got it working and have made a step by step guide as i did it. just one problem, and i reaaaaallly hope its not a big problem. but in android it says no sd card. i need to know how to show whatever explorer program i use in android to look at the fat32 partition. anyone know?
i also need to know how to make wp7 see the fat32 partition that will have all the media files on it. anyone?
as soon as i get this information, i will post the guide. but i don't want to post it if there is something wrong (android and windows not reading the fat32 parition).
other than that both operating systems are still there and android is running from ext4 from folder nativesd!!!

noobinius said:
thank you guys for your help. i have got it working and have made a step by step guide as i did it. just one problem, and i reaaaaallly hope its not a big problem. but in android it says no sd card. i need to know how to show whatever explorer program i use in android to look at the fat32 partition. anyone know?
i also need to know how to make wp7 see the fat32 partition that will have all the media files on it. anyone?
as soon as i get this information, i will post the guide. but i don't want to post it if there is something wrong (android and windows not reading the fat32 parition).
other than that both operating systems are still there and android is running from ext4 from folder nativesd!!!
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Check that all the partitions are set as primary, that's the only thing I can think of.

HypoTurtle said:
Check that all the partitions are set as primary, that's the only thing I can think of.
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well, i just checked it. i'm attaching the screenshot that shows the partitions. i'm a little scared to change the last one (the wp7 one) to primary for fear of messing it all up again. also, that shouldn't effect androids view of the fat32 which is set to primary right?

noobinius said:
well, i just checked it. i'm attaching the screenshot that shows the partitions. i'm a little scared to change the last one (the wp7 one) to primary for fear of messing it all up again. also, that shouldn't effect androids view of the fat32 which is set to primary right?
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Can't imagine that would cause the issue, you have them layed out as Fat32 | EXT4 | Unallocated right? Have a look at df again see if vold/179:1 appears, have attached mine from PA

thank you!
HypoTurtle said:
Can't imagine that would cause the issue, you have them layed out as Fat32 | EXT4 | Unallocated right? Have a look at df again see if vold/179:1 appears, have attached mine from PA
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so thats how you see if it's called mmcblk0p2 or not.... finally. i never used it to set these up. is it too late? i don't even know how to get adb on my phone like you did, and i tried running adb shell from my computer but it keeps saying error: device not found.
how do i get it running on my phone as you did to check?

noobinius said:
so thats how you see if it's called mmcblk0p2 or not.... finally. i never used it to set these up. is it too late? i don't even know how to get adb on my phone like you did, and i tried running adb shell from my computer but it keeps saying error: device not found.
how do i get it running on my phone as you did to check?
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Use terminal emulator, type su to get to shell then df (or anyother busybox/adb shell command)

thank you!
HypoTurtle said:
Use terminal emulator, type su to get to shell then df (or anyother busybox/adb shell command)
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ahh, great. well, i got there did it, no 179 error or any other error. i tried taking a screenshot with volume down + power key, but it doesn't seem to want to do it, maybe cuz it doesn't no where to save it idk.
anywayas, it shows:
/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 /nativesd
/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 /system
/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 /data
tmpfs /dev
tmpfs /mnt/asec
tmpfs /mnt/obb
other than sizes, that is all it shows...

noobinius said:
ahh, great. well, i got there did it, no 179 error or any other error. i tried taking a screenshot with volume down + power key, but it doesn't seem to want to do it, maybe cuz it doesn't no where to save it idk.
anywayas, it shows:
/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 /nativesd
/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 /system
/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 /data
tmpfs /dev
tmpfs /mnt/asec
tmpfs /mnt/obb
other than sizes, that is all it shows...
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Screenshot is turned on in settings, system, power menu but yea it wouldn't work anyway, other than reformating the fat partition, i can think of much else you can try, i think you may have to tempt fate here and change the wp7 part to primary, can't recall if it messes anything up at this stage, i don't think so, as long as it doesn't require a format.

THANK YOU!!!
HypoTurtle said:
Screenshot is turned on in settings, system, power menu but yea it wouldn't work anyway, other than reformating the fat partition, i can think of much else you can try, i think you may have to tempt fate here and change the wp7 part to primary, can't recall if it messes anything up at this stage, i don't think so, as long as it doesn't require a format.
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WOW, rock on man.. you did it. reset wp7 partition to primary, both operating systems still working. and android is reading the fat32 partition now. Thank you sooo much for your help. I am thrilled we did it!!
Okay, I posted a guide on EXACTLY what I did with screenshots in an ACTUAL step by step process so it will be easier for the next person that doesn't know what they're doing just like I didn't. It is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31406820#post31406820

Guide
noobinius said:
thank you guys for your help. i have got it working and have made a step by step guide as i did it. just one problem, and i reaaaaallly hope its not a big problem. but in android it says no sd card. i need to know how to show whatever explorer program i use in android to look at the fat32 partition. anyone know?
i also need to know how to make wp7 see the fat32 partition that will have all the media files on it. anyone?
as soon as i get this information, i will post the guide. but i don't want to post it if there is something wrong (android and windows not reading the fat32 parition).
other than that both operating systems are still there and android is running from ext4 from folder nativesd!!!
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PLEASE.. let us know where and how to get a hold of your NOOB Guide.. I would be very interested in it even if it all doesn't work!

TERRAREX0784 said:
PLEASE.. let us know where and how to get a hold of your NOOB Guide.. I would be very interested in it even if it all doesn't work!
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Okay, I posted a guide on EXACTLY what I did with screenshots in an ACTUAL step by step process so it will be easier for the next person that doesn't know what they're doing just like I didn't. It is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...0#post31406820

[Tutorial/HOWTO] Convert Your External SD Card from FAT/exFAT to EXT4! (3 ways!)

Hello guys.
I was looking for a similar guide to link to my friend but didn't find anything, so I decided to write my own.
Personally I didn't find any good guide regarding partitioning from android itself, so I think it's also more unique guide because you can easily make your own partition layout without using PC at all.
Why I should use EXT4 instead of FAT/exFAT?
1. We're running Android, Android is based on Linux. EXT4 is native linux-proposed filesystem, while FAT/exFAT is not.
2. All our internal partitions (/efs /data /system /cache /preload) use ext4, natively.
3. CM has poor exfat support, while fat32 is not recommended for big file systems (over 2 GB) because it doesn't work well with them, thus microsoft implemented exfat.
4. EXT4 has better stability and performance, especially on Android devices, compared to exfat and fat.
When you should not use ext4 over fat/exfat?
- When you for whatever reason use your external sd card in windows environment physically. Android works in MTP mode, you'll use your ext4 external sd card the same way as you use internal one under windows. But if you for whatever reason puts your external sd card f.e. in usb adapter connected with windows then it won't work. So yeah, if you keep your external sd card in your phone then you're fine.
Expert Way (Requires fdisk/mke2fs utilities (busybox), works always):
1. Launch any terminal from Android environment (f.e. Android Terminal Emulator or adb shell through PC)
2. Make sure you have root (su command)
3. Make sure you have all required utilities. Type fdisk --help and mke2fs --help, both commands should print usage. If you get "command not found" then you don't have required utilities. Either install Busybox or CM-Based ROM with native busybox support (tested on ArchiDroid 2.X)
4. Unmount your external sd card (umount /storage/sdcard1)
5. Launch fdisk partitioning program on your external sd card (fdisk /dev/block/mmcblk1)
6. Destroy partition table (o), create new partition , make sure it's primary (p) and first one (1).
7. You can check if you're satisfied with your partition layout (p). When you're done exit and save changes (w)
8. Create ext4 filesystem on your partition (mke2fs -t ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk1p1)
9. Reboot
Android should automatically detect and mount external sd card in ext4 after reboot.
Here you can find a short movie which shows going through expert way recorded by me
Intermediate Way (Requires USB Adapter and some patience, should work like a charm):
1. You'd need USB Adapter or any device which can read micro sd cards on PC
2. Open any linux-supported partitioning program (f.e. partition magic, gparted, parted), it needs to support ext4.
3. Delete all partitions from your external SD Card (typically, one fat/exfat) and create one ext4 partition.
4. In case you'd also want hardswap create 2 partitions, one primary ext4 one and second primary swap one.
Newbie Way (Requires PhilZ Touch Recovery, may not work):
1. Launch PhilZ Touch Recovery
2. Select "Mounts & Storage" => "format /external_sd"
3. Select "ext4" as a filesystem
4. Please note that it can take some time. This way you should get running ext4 filesystem, but personally I didn't test this method, as I prefer more advanced ones .
This guide is more or less universal but I'm using sgs3 external sd card paths so I want to make sure nobody bricks other phones . Personally I suggest using expert way, as it's probably the easiest one.
Hit thanks if it helped, I hope it did .

@JustArchi thanks for the tutorial. Now for the sake of sdcard wearing. I would like to disable Journaling. How do you do that?
EDIT: also i noticed after formatting the externalsd card there is 3 GB occupied by nothing (?) This is normal?

cba1986 said:
@JustArchi thanks for the tutorial. Now for the sake of sdcard wearing. I would like to disable Journaling. How do you do that?
EDIT: also i noticed after formatting the externalsd card there is 3 GB occupied by nothing (?) This is normal?
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tune2fs -O ^has_journal /dev/block/mmcblk1p1 should do the trick. You can put it in init.d if needed.
Also no, you should get full size of your sdcard. Are you sure that you've firstly destroyed partition table (o) and then created new full-size partition , as showed in the video?
You can use fdisk also to get information about your external sd card and find why is it smaller than it should be.

HI, My 64gb is two partitioned one hardswap and other primary.
Will I lose data on both partitions if I delete partition and format to EXT4?

golti said:
HI, My 64gb is two partitioned one hardswap and other primary.
Will I lose data on both partitions if I delete partition and format to EXT4?
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You will lose data contained in the partition you are formatting. If you leave the other partitions untouched, you won't lose their data.

golti said:
HI, My 64gb is two partitioned one hardswap and other primary.
Will I lose data on both partitions if I delete partition and format to EXT4?
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Just don't use (o), as it will destroy everything. Use an option to delete selected partitions (d, if I remember correctly) and create them through n.

System Data
Hi, thanks for te help, but now a have a 1 gb lost by system data or 0.8gb if i disable the journaling, that is right??? Thanks

vazio said:
Hi, thanks for te help, but now a have a 1 gb lost by system data or 0.8gb if i disable the journaling, that is right??? Thanks
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It depends on your rom and also if you created ext4 properly. I've formatted my 2 GB SD Card to EXT4 and I got 1,80 GB free (yes with journaling). This is because 5%-10% is reserved for "super blocks". Read more -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4

problem using expert method
Hi Guys,
I am new fairly new to rooting and using terminal emulators.
I have a rooted samsung galaxy note 2 with superSU, busybox and shell terminal emulator. I verified fdisk and mke2fs
(fdisk --help and mke2fs --help) but then when I tried the command
"umount /storage/extSdCard"
I get the error message "Operation not permitted"
Can anyone tell me why this might be?
Thanks
/storage/extSdCard is the path to the external sdcard on my device.

Hottot2 said:
Hi Guys,
I am new fairly new to rooting and using terminal emulators.
I have a rooted samsung galaxy note 2 with superSU, busybox and shell terminal emulator. I verified fdisk and mke2fs
(fdisk --help and mke2fs --help) but then when I tried the command
"umount /storage/extSdCard"
I get the error message "Operation not permitted"
Can anyone tell me why this might be?
Thanks
/storage/extSdCard is the path to the external sdcard on my device.
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Did you login as root before? (su)

JustArchi said:
Did you login as root before? (su)
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I did not.
However, I did try again and got the sane result. I used these commands in shell terminal emulator:
su -
mount
umount /storage/extSdCard
result: "Failed: Operation not permitted"
I have verified root with root checker...and after typing the command "su -" I was prompted by supersu to "allow"
I believe this issue will likely be something simple that I am not aware of.
I have tried this on my galaxy note 2 and my tab3 8.0 with the same results.
I really appreciate any help offered.

Hottot2 said:
I did not.
However, I did try again and got the sane result. I used these commands in shell terminal emulator:
su -
mount
umount /storage/extSdCard
result: "Failed: Operation not permitted"
I have verified root with root checker...and after typing the command "su -" I was prompted by supersu to "allow"
I believe this issue will likely be something simple that I am not aware of.
I have tried this on my galaxy note 2 and my tab3 8.0 with the same results.
I really appreciate any help offered.
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Try to execute su -c "umount /storage/extSdCard"
It worked flawlessly in my case.

Thanks Archi. I was wandering around looking for a solution to the problem with my sd(I'm nooo0b if it goes about Linux/Android ). My Archidroid 2.3.3 did not recognized/mount my external card, so after following your instructions (using the terminal in android) now I can enjoy my 64gb sd card.. Great job!

JustArchi said:
Try to execute su -c "umount /storage/extSdCard"
It worked flawlessly in my case.
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Ok. That worked. Thanks.
I then tried (su -c "fdisk /dev/block/mmcblk1")
Then...press m for help...or pressing "o" gets me a syntax error.
I have attached a screenshot.
Thanks again
Ryan

Hottot2 said:
Ok. That worked. Thanks.
I then tried (su -c "fdisk /dev/block/mmcblk1")
Then...press m for help...or pressing "o" gets me a syntax error.
I have attached a screenshot.
Thanks again
Ryan
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Okay, you're user, not root. This is a weird android shell, that's why.
Try to use "su -i" to get root shell, then use fdisk (without su).

JustArchi said:
Okay, you're user, not root. This is a weird android shell, that's why.
Try to use "su -i" to get root shell, then use fdisk (without su).
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Still didnt work. After typing "su -I" the next line still says "[email protected]:/$"
I was thinking I could try a reinstall of shell terminal emulator...or perhaps you could recommend a different one to use.
I will try again later tonight.
Thanks
Ryan

Hottot2 said:
Still didnt work. After typing "su -I" the next line still says "[email protected]:/$"
I was thinking I could try a reinstall of shell terminal emulator...or perhaps you could recommend a different one to use.
I will try again later tonight.
Thanks
Ryan
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Try android terminal emulator, you must gain root shell. Typically "su" command does that, "su -l" should as well.

JustArchi said:
Try android terminal emulator, you must gain root shell. Typically "su" command does that, "su -l" should as well.
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Alright...typed su and gained root....got through ttothe last step.
I typed "mke2fs -t ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk1p1"
and the result was: "mke2fs: invalid option -- t"
I have trying to read about mke2fs and the -t option but no luck so far.
Thanks
Ryan

Hello Archi and thanx for the tutorial
I followed all the steps, done it to the end, but after reboot I couldn't make any folder on SD card.
Card is recognized, formated as EXT4, but for some reason there is no way to put anything to it
Tried again with gparted, ended with same result.
Tried to change ownership, but that also didn't work out...
Now i reverted card to fat32...
Any idea what could be wrong?
btw, using NeatROM 4.4.2 with boeffla kernel and Philz 6.00.8
thanx in advance

Tom-Tom07 said:
Hello Archi and thanx for the tutorial
I followed all the steps, done it to the end, but after reboot I couldn't make any folder on SD card.
Card is recognized, formated as EXT4, but for some reason there is no way to put anything to it
Tried again with gparted, ended with same result.
Tried to change ownership, but that also didn't work out...
Now i reverted card to fat32...
Any idea what could be wrong?
btw, using NeatROM 4.4.2 with boeffla kernel and Philz 6.00.8
thanx in advance
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Ext4 support is broken in your rom.
Hottot2 said:
Alright...typed su and gained root....got through ttothe last step.
I typed "mke2fs -t ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk1p1"
and the result was: "mke2fs: invalid option -- t"
I have trying to read about mke2fs and the -t option but no luck so far.
Thanks
Ryan
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Your rom doesn't support mke2fs properly.