Keyboards - Atrix 4G General

So this is kind of a question but also a discussion.
When using any keyboard, aside form swype, with vibration on, do you guys notice a HUGE amount of lag? I just tried swift key with the vibration on and it was almost unbearable to use because trying to type something fast would result in garble. This is even true for me on the stock keyboard, as well as the gingerbread keyboard from the market.
Now you could say i should just type with they vibrate off, but it just doesn't feel right =p
If anyone experiences this post here

I agree, it happens a bit to me to. (no ota update applied). Haven't tried after. Like others, I'm waiting for a root.

Strange, doesn't happen for me with the Gingerbread keyboard. I haven't tried it with the stock multitouch keyboard though.

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Keyboard typing lagging

it lags really badly in SMS typing. It seems to be much better in emails and other applications. Anyone know why?
Thanks
I've noticed that the keyboard can lag sometimes, but I don;t know why.
The most annoying thing I've had was on a particular rom I flashed (I can't remember which one now) where the first letter or two lagged when entering a web address into opera/ie, so that they would appear after the 3rd letter or so. Like if I typed:
xda-developers.com
I might get
adx-developers.com
That annoyed me so much, I just flashed to another rom pretty much straight away...
Does your phones have a custom software keyboard installed like Touch HD or any other 3:rd party keyboard?
Try to disable word completetion.
emwdava said:
Does your phones have a custom software keyboard installed like Touch HD or any other 3:rd party keyboard?
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My keyboard lagged with the touchHD keyboard too -very bad, when the first letter became the third or forth.
Now I use SPB Keyboard and all the lags are gone.
skycamefalling said:
My keyboard lagged with the touchHD keyboard too -very bad, when the first letter became the third or forth.
Now I use SPB Keyboard and all the lags are gone.
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are you saying that if i install SPB Keyboard that it will improve typing on the slide out keyboard as well? i'm asking 'cause i'm experiencing lag on it as well
Why can't people answer the question?
Do you or don't you have any 3:rd party keyboard software installed like the Touch HD keyboard?
RageDemon said:
are you saying that if i install SPB Keyboard that it will improve typing on the slide out keyboard as well? i'm asking 'cause i'm experiencing lag on it as well
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As emwdava already asked: Do you have a 3rd party keyboard (e.g. TouchHD Keyboard) installed?
If that's the case, try deinstalling this keyboard and see if the lags go away.
If the system is running better then and you want to have a software keyboard, I would recommend SPB Keyboard because it's good and it does not cause any lags as the TouchHD Keyboard before.
So SPB Keyboard will NOT help getting the lags away, but it is a usable keyboard that do not cause lags.
i hv the THD keyboard installed and i experience the lag too when im typing an address into opera. with both the THD keyboard and the hardware keyboard.
at first was kinda annoying but now i just wait for the cursor to move in front of the first letter before i continue typing. less than two seconds. im pretty patient
i have the issue of the lag on the hardware keyboard, i types and after few moments i see the words appear.
I have TouchIT 3.01 rom and SPB keyboard, i will try disabling auto-completition and do the other tips and see the results
i have the same issue..
i just jacks rom 1.06
anly keyboard i have installed that is not with the rom = NullKB
i have word completion disabled.
i have the same problem sort of...
I've got a swedish xperia with stock rom, itjes manila cab, fingerboard and touchpal installed, disabled auto-correction and no word proposals.
but i must say that even when I hard reset my unit the problem is still there when i multi-task (even just a few programs). but for me it only affects my swedish letters å ä and ö. never for any other letters. it's so annoying and i hope that SE or someone here could fix it... perhaps it's already fixed?
Same problem with the hardware keyboard. It lags about 1 second or similar. You can keep typing, it will catch up eventually, and it won't lose any words/letters.
The software SIP doesn't have a problem, but maybe because I type slower on that, than the hardware keyboard haha.
Same
I'm using Finger Keyboard 2, When I type with the hardware keyboard it sometimes lags behind me by about 2 words at the very start of my message then goes fine after that.
Using Finger Keyboard 2 itself is normal, but switching it on takes about 30 seconds or more sometimes, I don't know if this is common but will probably remove it if it continues because the only reason i keep it is to save sliding, otherwise it's quicker to just slide and I would have finished what i was doing in the time it takes to load.

Modded ROM vs. standard ROM keyboard lag difference?

Hi. I have been running a couple of modded ROMs and the htc_ime i install on those ROMs is always laggy and somewhat buggy. Is it the same with standard ROM?
One of the bugs i have noticed is that sometimes, when i press space it just goes nuts and creates a period(dot) and just continues to make spaces for a short period. And this has happened on several ROMs.
It's the HTC_IME, not the ROM. the HTC keyboard is designed to put a period and two spaces when / if you hold the keyboard for too long. I haven't looked at the actual code to see how many milliseconds it is, but that is what is happening. Try to tap the space bar quicker and it should be fine.
Thanks for your reply, but thats not whats happening. I press space fast enough. I am aware of the fact that it puts out a dot if you hold it or tap it twice . It does not explain why it continues to make spaces after it makes the dot. It goes totally bananas
Its a setting.
I have a custom rom but im almost certain that the setting is a standard feature.
Its called "Add a space after dot" or equal and you should find it in the settings for input and text.
Good luck.
dicksisfontes said:
I have a custom rom but im almost certain that the setting is a standard feature.
Its called "Add a space after dot" or equal and you should find it in the settings for input and text.
Good luck.
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I also know this is considered a feature, and I intentionally have it on. HOWEVER, there is often keyboard lag, where you can quickly tap on a key, and the software does not recognize that it was a quick tap and processes it as if you held it down for a longer period. With the space bar, you get the period + spaces. I frequently get the same effect on other keys, yielding numbers, etc instead what I wanted.
The keyboard lag is *awful* and I consider it one of the bigger usability flaws in the mytouch.
majoraccent said:
I also know this is considered a feature, and I intentionally have it on. HOWEVER, there is often keyboard lag, where you can quickly tap on a key, and the software does not recognize that it was a quick tap and processes it as if you held it down for a longer period. With the space bar, you get the period + spaces. I frequently get the same effect on other keys, yielding numbers, etc instead what I wanted.
The keyboard lag is *awful* and I consider it one of the bigger usability flaws in the mytouch.
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Yeah i get that exact same thing. It is REALLY annoying the !#¤% out of me
Try using Super D, I get no lag on the key board and its a great 1.6 ROM. Its possible it could be a hardware issue, try going into the dev tools and click pointer location. See whats going on with your touch screen.
phatmanxxl said:
Try using Super D, I get no lag on the key board and its a great 1.6 ROM. Its possible it could be a hardware issue, try going into the dev tools and click pointer location. See whats going on with your touch screen.
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I am using Super D at the moment . Turning the vibration feedback off helped somewhat, but in landscape mode it is still lagging a lot. Tried pointer location, and the screen seems fine to me
FYI, I switched off the predictive text input option on HTC_IME, which got rid of just about all of the lag. It works very well with haptic feedback now. Unfortunately, there's no spell check or anything, so you may have to pay more attention but it is still preferable I think.
The basic problem seems to be that the mytouch simply doesn't have the processing capability to run close to smoothly with all the advertised features, and we have to selectively disable options to try to get a usable product. It's a shame since android itself is quite nice.
I suppose another solution would be to go into the source for one of the keyboard packages and see if it could be made more efficient, but that may be pointless as soon as better hardware comes out.

Just can't get the keyboard down...

This is my first Android phone and I am having a horrible time with the keyboard. I have had the EVO for about a week now and just can't get the hang of the keyboard down. I am always making mistakes, and have to say that I am an above average keyboarder.
Any suggestions? I tried using swype but it slows me down to much lol
You slowly start getting used to it with the autocorrections. I came from a G1 and honestly, I'd love to have a hardware keyboard. If I was given a chance to swap for a Galaxy S Pro, I'd do it just for the keyboard
Anyway, have you try calibrating your keypad?
Give swype a try. Once you use it you'll wonder how you ever got by without it.
Swype takes a week or so to get used to and for it to get used to you. You also have to play with the settings a bit, start out slow and don't try to go quickly when you are first learning.
There are also some swype alternatives in the market you can try.
I think swype is a waste. Just build your android dictionary and you will type fast and efficient. Make sure u use auto correction!
im having lots of trouble wit the keyboard to and im coming from the iphone where i typed really fast n had very very lil mistakes. i keep hitting the damn period button everytime i try to hit the space bar, the button is just too small i guess. hopefully different keyboards come through the market for me to try.
Yeah the auto-correct is a life saver, it usually corrects what I am trying to say lol. Yeah I have done the calibration, and it seems to have helped. Wish there was a little more depth to the calibration though.
The small space bar is for sure annoying, I always hit the period also.
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Yeah the auto-correct is a life saver, it usually corrects what I am trying to say lol. Yeah I have done the calibration, and it seems to have helped. Wish there was a little more depth to the calibration though.
The small space bar is for sure annoying, I always hit the period also.
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I'm assuming by little spacebar you mean when you hit the search button or something of the sort if you hit search button one more time it will bring the big spacebar back
have you tried to xda keyboard? i believe Fresh rom has it. it gets rid of the placement arrows and i believe it makes the keys a little bigger. I've never had any problem typing with the evo's keyboard. Coming from the hero this screen size is sooo much better to type on. Sure i make a few mistakes here and there but auto correction generally fixes them for me. Also, the stock android keyboard is actually pretty decent. I used it for a while on my hero. Maybe install that and give it a try.
I am not a big auto-correction fan, so I disabled mine. That combined with the IME v27 keyboard I got from another thread makes typing so much better for me. IME Link
no when u try to hit the spacebar on the keyboard. its too small n we always hit the period button next to it.
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I'm assuming by little spacebar you mean when you hit the search button or something of the sort if you hit search button one more time it will bring the big spacebar back
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Came from the G1 and I do not miss the physical keyboard at all. I thought I would have hard time, but I picked it up after a day. The larger screen definitely helps. I'm also using the mod, which is more responsive than the stock VK.
From the HTC Evo!!
stroths said:
I am not a big auto-correction fan, so I disabled mine. That combined with the IME v27 keyboard I got from another thread makes typing so much better for me. IME Link
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Thanks for this, I always thought those arrow keys were a waste of space. This keyboard seems to be much more responsive to the way that I type. I am much more accurate on it, so it seems anyways lol. Just wish some of the bottom row was removed to make room for a bigger space bar haha.
I use "A better keyboard" and find the button spacing perfect. with that and autocorrection on, I can actually type faster on it than with a physical keyboard.
I admit I didnt read the thread.. here are my two cents:
Swype was ESSENTIAL on my hero but without the trackball or on screen nav button like the EVO kb has Swype is kinda handicapped on the EVO.
Forget about accuracy, just type and learn to let the autocorrect do it's thing
re read what you typed to ensure it's accurate until you get real good at it but again, just type. Most of your typos will be fixed automatically
I'm really impressed with the IME on the EVO, it was a pretty big disappointment for me on the hero...
nebenezer said:
I admit I didnt read the thread.. here are my two cents:
Swype was ESSENTIAL on my hero but without the trackball or on screen nav button like the EVO kb has Swype is kinda handicapped on the EVO.
Forget about accuracy, just type and learn to let the autocorrect do it's thing
re read what you typed to ensure it's accurate until you get real good at it but again, just type. Most of your typos will be fixed automatically
I'm really impressed with the IME on the EVO, it was a pretty big disappointment for me on the hero...
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That is generally what I try to do, but certain text inputs don't take advantage of the auto correct so I have to be more careful on those. Wish they all did lol...

Blur keyboard

Hate to say it but I love the blur keyboard. I tried gingerbread keyboard for a while and at first hated it but after a few days got used to it. As soon as I went back to blur I fell in love within an hour.
My question is, how do I permanently make the smiley button next to the space bar, into the enter key. Sometimes it is enter and sometimes it is a smiley.
Does anyone else like the blur keyboard as much as I do? I also like the toned down intensity of the haptic feedback on the blur board as well.
My true favorite is the swype keyboard but it doesn't auto correct
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seh6183 said:
Hate to say it but I love the blur keyboard. I tried gingerbread keyboard for a while and at first hated it but after a few days got used to it. As soon as I went back to blur I fell in love within an hour.
My question is, how do I permanently make the smiley button next to the space bar, into the enter key. Sometimes it is enter and sometimes it is a smiley.
Does anyone else like the blur keyboard as much as I do? I also like the toned down intensity of the haptic feedback on the blur board as well.
My true favorite is the swype keyboard but it doesn't auto correct
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I don't know the answer to your question, but I love that keyboard too. it's the best I have ever typed on. I can type very fast with minimal mistake.
I love the keyboard.
Swype > *
The Motorola Multitouch Keyboard isn't bad, better than Sense. Don't have experience with Gingerbread Keyboard on Atrix, though it was nice on my brothers Nexus One.
seh6183 said:
Hate to say it but I love the blur keyboard. I tried gingerbread keyboard for a while and at first hated it but after a few days got used to it. As soon as I went back to blur I fell in love within an hour.
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Really? I like the overall presentation (big keys, etc.) but I find that the blur multitouch keyboard doesn't really feel like multitouch to me. If I type really fast where sometimes my presses overlap, it often misses some of the letters I typed, even though they flashed above the keys onscreen. They just didn't actually appear in the textbox I'm typing in.
For example, type the word "what" as fast as you absolutely can, with very light taps (in portrait mode). I find that more often than not, I get the word "hat" or other misspellings. I didn't miss the key; the popup shows that it was typed, but it just didn't appear.
I hate to say it, but I learned my virtual keyboard typing on the iPhone and iPod Touch and those devices never lost some of my presses, despite fast, overlapping presses.
I tested many, many keyboards from the market, and you know what? The Gingerbread keyboard and Better Keyboard 8 are really the only ones that could handle really fast light typing. I also like Swype though, and use the beta version. It's quite good when you just want to do some one hand typing.
maledyris said:
Really? I like the overall presentation (big keys, etc.) but I find that the blur multitouch keyboard doesn't really feel like multitouch to me. If I type really fast where sometimes my presses overlap, it often misses some of the letters I typed, even though they flashed above the keys onscreen. They just didn't actually appear in the textbox I'm typing in.
For example, type the word "what" as fast as you absolutely can, with very light taps (in portrait mode). I find that more often than not, I get the word "hat" or other misspellings. I didn't miss the key; the popup shows that it was typed, but it just didn't appear.
I hate to say it, but I learned my virtual keyboard typing on the iPhone and iPod Touch and those devices never lost some of my presses, despite fast, overlapping presses.
I tested many, many keyboards from the market, and you know what? The Gingerbread keyboard and Better Keyboard 8 are really the only ones that could handle really fast light typing. I also like Swype though, and use the beta version. It's quite good when you just want to do some one hand typing.
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You're right about the blur keyboard missing inputs I never typed fast enough to notice it. I'm trying better keyboard 8 right now and like it but its glitched and keeps asking me to activate it, so I can't enter the options menu for the board.
Where can I get the swype beta? I have swype now, how do I know that I don't already have the swype beta? Also does the swype beta have auto correct? Not suggest but correct.
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So I got beta swype and while it functions better I don't nearly like the skin as much. Also it doesn't auto correct only auto suggests properly spelled words.
Also I do like better keyboard 8 but am unable to fully test it as I can not properly "enable" it to enter the settings menu.
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Try smart keyboard plus. Hands down the most customizabld keybaord ever and by far the most responsive. I love the fact that I am able to resize the keyboard all I want and I'm also able to disable full screen landscape mode which is the biggest failure of all keyboards on android
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seven2099 said:
Try smart keyboard plus. Hands down the most customizabld keybaord ever and by far the most responsive. I love the fact that I am able to resize the keyboard all I want and I'm also able to disable full screen landscape mode which is the biggest failure of all keyboards on android
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Wow. This thing is great! True multi touch; it never misses a single word no matter how fast I type. Also I am able to even customize the length of the vibration for haptic which I love because the blur board had a very short, very light feedback and I am able to recreate that with this new board. And the skinning is just icing on the cake. Thank you!!!
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seven2099 said:
Try smart keyboard plus. Hands down the most customizabld keybaord ever and by far the most responsive. I love the fact that I am able to resize the keyboard all I want and I'm also able to disable full screen landscape mode which is the biggest failure of all keyboards on android
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Nice! Don't know how I missed this one. Better Keyboard has pretty much all the features mentioned EXCEPT it doesn't auto correct anywhere near as well as this one does. I guess I'll have to add this to my collection...
By the way, what skin are you guys using? I just found "Rapid" for Better Keyboard which looks really nice. Similar to the stock Blur keyboard, but better! It works just as well with Smart Keyboard too.
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Nice! Don't know how I missed this one. Better Keyboard has pretty much all the features mentioned EXCEPT it doesn't auto correct anywhere near as well as this one does. I guess I'll have to add this to my collection...
By the way, what skin are you guys using? I just found "Rapid" for Better Keyboard which looks really nice. Similar to the stock Blur keyboard, but better! It works just as well with Smart Keyboard too.
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I'm using the stock HTC one that comes with the app
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will the toshiba thrive have the same keyboard lag?

Is it the transformer or HC?
Have you tried switching the keyboard? I had no keyboard lag with the standard HC keyboard.
The lag only exists with the stock browser and persists with any keyboard (especially apparent when using text-prediction and typing into captchas)
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The lag only exists with the stock browser and persists with any keyboard (especially apparent when using text-prediction and typing into captchas)
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I Use Dolphin HD With Thumb Keyboard. Alot Less laggy that stock keyboard and Default browser but its still laggy. Doesn't matter which browser I use. Pretty sure it s a Honeycomb Thing. With the Rumored 3.2 Hopefully they fix this.
I really noticed the lag today. I am using the stock brower & keyboard. However something isn't right because while typing there will be apoint the backspace will not work. Also it will not allow me to easily go back & edit. Just posting this was a pain in the ass.
but do you think the stock browser on the thrive will suffer like the transformer..
jadesse said:
I really noticed the lag today. I am using the stock brower & keyboard. However something isn't right because while typing there will be apoint the space will not work. Also it will not allow me to easily go back & edit. Just posting this was a pain in the ass.
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I agree. I have given up posting responses sometimes because of the difficulty with editing. I find that the green positioning cursor will not allow me to place it accurately. It seems to depend on what keyboard you use. while writing this, I have switched between Swype, SlideIT, and the Asus keyboard and found that they behave very differently:
- Asus keyboard least lag, easy to reposition cursor but takes too much screen space and poor predictive capability
- Swipe (honeycomb beta version) lags badly and cursor repositioning extremely inaccurate and even using the soft cursor keys, still can't position cursor accurately. Smallest on screen presence.
- SlideIT the best compromise. Doesn't lag too badly, cursor reasonably easy to reposition though sometimes a bit erratic, and screen estate used not too excessive.
Hope that info helps.
I like "hackers keyboard". Much nicer for editing, and no lag. It has real arrow keys.

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