Hi there,
I actually want to know if it is harmfull to OC your SGS to 1.2GHz. Ofc it's better to run stock but is it of any real harm and how do you OC? I had a quick test with Galaxy Tuner and I must say when I use my phone heavily 1.2GHz is better. So if this is safe and done easily I would like to do this . Thanks in advance!
Well that seems like a small overclock, so if you have setcpu to your minimum with screen off, it should be OK.
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Alright and how long can i use my phone when its on 1.2? Also next to that my phone is in a leather case when not being used so cooling will be a bit harder. Some more information from other people plz? I just want a consensus . Thanks for the quick reply.
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my SGS motherboard burnt due to OC....
1 day while i was playing dungeon defenders with OC to 1200, with charger ON. suddenly the phone off it by itsself..
sent to service center, they said motherboard burnt!!!!
lucky they replace the board for me which still under warranty.
so high chance i think is the OC that cause overheat n burnt it.
darkside748 said:
I actually want to know if it is harmfull to OC your SGS to 1.2GHz.
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No one can say for sure what would happen when you push a chip beyond its design parameters. Not all chips are made equal. Usually the standard speed rating is what all chips passing QC should be able to operate at. However some chips may be able to operate at higher speeds without ill effects while others may fail catastrophically even with a slight increase in frequency. So its anyones guess...
Frankly I dont see the need to overclock right now. What ROM are you using ? Flashing to a newer / better ROM can give you a bigger improvement than what 200Mhz can give you on a laggy unoptimized ROM, so why risk it ?? .
minjiet said:
my SGS motherboard burnt due to OC....
1 day while i was playing dungeon defenders with OC to 1200, with charger ON. suddenly the phone off it by itsself..
sent to service center, they said motherboard burnt!!!!
lucky they replace the board for me which still under warranty.
so high chance i think is the OC that cause overheat n burnt it.
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The fact you where charging, and playing a game probably had more to do with it than your overclocking.
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deliriousDroid said:
The fact you where charging, and playing a game probably had more to do with it than your overclocking.
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+1, charging and gaming at the same time is never a good I idea. They both heat up the phone greatly
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Hmm I'm running docs mod v9.9.5 XD with speedmod kernel and twlweaks enabled. So it pretty fast already however with the oc there is just less loading time. But you are saying that its useless?
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minjiet said:
my SGS motherboard burnt due to OC....
1 day while i was playing dungeon defenders with OC to 1200, with charger ON. suddenly the phone off it by itsself..
sent to service center, they said motherboard burnt!!!!
lucky they replace the board for me which still under warranty.
so high chance i think is the OC that cause overheat n burnt it.
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If you can oc, that means you root right! either that or droidclock/setcpu correct?
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Hi there,
I actually want to know if it is harmfull to OC your SGS to 1.2GHz. Ofc it's better to run stock but is it of any real harm and how do you OC? I had a quick test with Galaxy Tuner and I must say when I use my phone heavily 1.2GHz is better. So if this is safe and done easily I would like to do this . Thanks in advance!
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it depends. i personally use tegrak overclock and for battery saving, i use overclockwidget. my sgs has been going for 2 days in a row with battery life only at 48% even with moderate usage(making smses, playuing games occasionally, etc.)
Hmm alright, these apps seems legit. What are your settings with these apps? Or should I use setcpu?
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The fact you where charging, and playing a game probably had more to do with it than your overclocking.
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If the phone reaches a certain temperature, the phone stops charging, so i dont think playing a game and charging at same time is the culprit.
Granted that the phone would heat up A LOT quicker than usual, but being so hot, the phone wouldnt of been charging even with the charger connected.
there is now way of knowing whether overclocking is dangerous. Personally i think it is, you have to modify the kernel, modify system settings, modify battery voltage.
None of this is recommended, but we do it at our own risk...
Its as dangerous as running a custom ROM or LagFix. some devices are fine, some brick and burn to a crisp.
So choice is yours
Hmm i guess ill be sticking to 1ghz then... thx for the replies!
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The fact you where charging, and playing a game probably had more to do with it than your overclocking.
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i do the same for my x10 n the phone running just fine.
in fact, before i sent my i9000 to samsung for warranty claim, i pass the phone to a local shop, the tech told me the OC cause the board overheat, then burnt it....
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Hmm i guess ill be sticking to 1ghz then... thx for the replies!
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Actually tegrak oc works fine. ocing at 1.3 will crash first time but not crash anymore after the first time. ocwidget is not really useful for ocing but just to same battery life. when not really using my phone i will set it at 100mhz-400mhz. you can play angry birds on stock rom with little lag.
So you're saying i can oc.... but im running setcpu. I can OC with setcpu right? That brings another question when my screen is off what setting should i use for setcpu? In other words what is the minimum frequency?
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100MHz is fine for the minimum frequency (for me at least) - this may vary between phones, give it a try.
On the subject of over-clocking though, you should take a step back and ask yourself "How much do I really need those few milliseconds less to load up Angry Birds".
I would suggest that Samsung did more testing than anyone on this forum.
All that said though though I take my phone up to 1.2 sometimes for ****s and giggles & to shut up smug iPhone fanboys
lamacow123 said:
Actually tegrak oc works fine. ocing at 1.3 will crash first time but not crash anymore after the first time. ocwidget is not really useful for ocing but just to same battery life. when not really using my phone i will set it at 100mhz-400mhz. you can play angry birds on stock rom with little lag.
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No. Don't set set setcpu to anything below 400mhz because when the galaxy slips into idle mode it cn sometimes be difficult to wake up
. I'd imagine such a low clockspeed would encourage such behaviour. I set my minimum at 400mhz and max at 800mhz. Spot on.
my i9000..running gingerbread. perfectly.
jj03 said:
No. Don't set set setcpu to anything below 400mhz because when the galaxy slips into idle mode it cn sometimes be difficult to wake up
. I'd imagine such a low clockspeed would encourage such behaviour. I set my minimum at 400mhz and max at 800mhz. Spot on.
my i9000..running gingerbread. perfectly.
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A bit off topic but gingerbread official or custom? And my phone works perfectly fine. No hard to wake up syndrome.
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Quick, and great battery. Overclocking is pointless unless you play games on your phone, or care about your quadrant score.
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Yup, I agree with you
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I had a Milestone for 1.5 years on stock ROM (that is 550Mhz), pretty much served most of my needs perfectly....you know, the normal stuff you use your phone for.
I rarely notice my phone is underclocked... with smartass governor, it's more responsive than stock clocks with a less responsive governor.
Battery life doesn't seem improved, but I know that my weak signal is causing the problem here.
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I rarely notice my phone is underclocked... with smartass governor, it's more responsive than stock clocks with a less responsive governor.
Battery life doesn't seem improved, but I know that my weak signal is causing the problem here.
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I Sunni it's different for me.. When in use it seems to drain about the same but last night I set the phone down around 11 worth 84% battery life and got up at 6 with 78% still and that's setting the governor to smartass
It's bad for me because my phone goes without signal about half the time in my apartment. I'll be moving soon so it's not a huge issue, but it is kind of disconcerting to feel my phone heating up from just sitting around doing nothing.
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It's bad for me because my phone goes without signal about half the time in my apartment. I'll be moving soon so it's not a huge issue, but it is kind of disconcerting to feel my phone heating up from just sitting around doing nothing.
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You could try disabling the governor and let one like, setcpu do it? Before I went Incredikernel I set up a profile in setcpu that whenever my screen was off it wouldn't run any faster then 128MHz but when on was set for either on demand or performance. Using two governors at the same time causes lag I've found so you'd have to be running a rom that doesn't already have one (that you can see and change) built in
Yea, this is true. OC'ing I thought it was giving me speed, but I actually took the time to really see the speed on OC'ing and to me it dosent seem to change. Well maybe alittle bit, but still. But yea, so I just hit 1ghz and I just leave it there.
Pete's latest w/Yennob-Base2 kernel at 1ghz and its going good.
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Yea, this is true. OC'ing I thought it was giving me speed, but I actually took the time to really see the speed on OC'ing and to me it dosent seem to change. Well maybe alittle bit, but still. But yea, so I just hit 1ghz and I just leave it there.
Pete's latest w/Yennob-Base2 kernel at 1ghz and its going good.
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Yeah I honestly can't tell a difference between running at 998 MHz and 1,113 MHz other than a physically hotter phone and faster battery loss lol
IAmTheOneTheyCallNeo said:
Yeah I honestly can't tell a difference between running at 998 MHz and 1,113 MHz other than a physically hotter phone and faster battery loss lol
HTC-Incredible on Android 2.3.5
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Chad's Incredikernel-GB #9 (SA)
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Ahaha, yea. Everytime I would hit 1.3ghz or 1.4ghz for the fun of it, my phone would get that way too. It would get hot and it feels like it would explode in my face and yea battery life would drop like crazy.
Personally, I find myself running into a wall with RAM more than with processor power. I really hope the next Nexus at least doubles it.
No problems with overclocking: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16791637&postcount=124
Well the SuperOSR is only for nexus s.. If there was one for the ns4g, well then after reading that, I would be OC'ing like a maniac.
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Personally, I find myself running into a wall with RAM more than with processor power. I really hope the next Nexus at least doubles it.
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This. I'm really feeling the loss of RAM coming from a mytouch 4G. That extra 256MB really made a difference. Using juwe's RAM optimization script seems to help, though.
Ehm, how can Ram be a problem?
Android is managing it itself and can't run out of it, usually.
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Ehm, how can Ram be a problem?
Android is managing it itself and can't run out of it, usually.
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Things get killed that you don't want getting killed, and when it starts to run low things slow down considerably. It's not that something won't run, but it may run badly, or cause other apps to close that you were multitasking on, which is inconvenient.
I average 16 hours with normal for me use, which is a lot of texting, Facebook, internet browsing, listening to music.
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I average 16 hours with normal for me use, which is a lot of texting, Facebook, internet browsing, listening to music.
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How so? I normally get around 9-10 hours max with moderate use, also depending on the signal i get half the time.
I use netarchys latest bfs kernel with proton to undervolt all CPU frequencies to -20mv. And I have the CPU limited to 100-800mhz, with the on demand governer. With those 2 thing I get 15-16 hours everyday. I also usually let my batter get down to atleast 5% before charging.
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Skimp Killah said:
Quick, and great battery. Overclocking is pointless unless you play games on your phone, or care about your quadrant score.
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it's true
i always Under clock the phone with SetCPU to save battery life
As batteries get older do they tend to run hotter? Or just make the phone hotter in general? I remember the phone running pretty cool in the beginning now it gets quite toasty from time to time.
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Do you use it more? Changed any CPU setting? I am also inclined to think that they would run hotter as they get older
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yes i think they run hotter and they hold less of a charge so you will see a decrease in battery life
evilcuber said:
yes i think they run hotter and they hold less of a charge so you will see a decrease in battery life
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this is true...sometimes mine gets so hot i cant even hold my phone...no joke
smokeuout said:
this is true...sometimes mine gets so hot i cant even hold my phone...no joke
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whats the temperature on your battery? are you overclocked?
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this is true...sometimes mine gets so hot i cant even hold my phone...no joke
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Well thats not good whether your battery is brand new or a couple years old. Are you OC'd? If so, do you run temperature profiles? How long / hard do you use the phone before it gets that hot?
Any li-ion battery will eventually be useless over time. My phone has always run very hot when using gps(rooted with oc's and all that jazz or unrooted).
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Any li-ion battery will eventually be useless over time. My phone has always run very hot when using gps(rooted with oc's and all that jazz or unrooted).
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Mine also gets hot when using gps
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whats the temperature on your battery? are you overclocked?
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yeah im oc to 1305 an it really only happens when im playing a game and charging at the same time....but battery temp always stays in the green and batt health is good ive had it tested before
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yeah im oc to 1305 an it really only happens when im playing a game and charging at the same time....but battery temp always stays in the green and batt health is good ive had it tested before
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well thats to be expected. remember the phones default clock speed is only 800mhz, so with that big overclock+gaming+charging you shouldn't be surprised to get a hot battery.
Never seen a g2 get hot to the touch myself. The battery warms when discharging heavily, but not hot. What's the point of overclocking past 1024mhz ?
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Never seen a g2 get hot to the touch myself. The battery warms when discharging heavily, but not hot. What's the point of overclocking past 1024mhz ?
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ive been oc at low levels and extremely high levels and i found a spot where it seems i get the best all around performance....each phone will vary but you should try oc to higher levels if u havnt yet...careful around 1497 though, my phone just gets weird
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Never seen a g2 get hot to the touch myself. The battery warms when discharging heavily, but not hot. What's the point of overclocking past 1024mhz ?
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Mine would get warm to the touch using it heavily on the charger and overclocking to 1.2ghz or so.
Not sure why you'd overclock past 1ghz. I've never seen my phone bog down with anything at 1ghz. Some like to do it though. The usual level for overclockers is probably 1.2ghz. I personally keep it at 806mhz...
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Mine would get warm to the touch using it heavily on the charger and overclocking to 1.2ghz or so.
Not sure why you'd overclock past 1ghz. I've never seen my phone bog down with anything at 1ghz. Some like to do it though. The usual level for overclockers is probably 1.2ghz. I personally keep it at 806mhz...
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so u dont see much of a increase in speed when oc above 1ghz...i think i might mess around with the numbers again just to make sure....thanks for the tip
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so u dont see much of a increase in speed when oc above 1ghz...i think i might mess around with the numbers again just to make sure....thanks for the tip
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Well I'm sure if u run benchmarks you'll of course see better performance at higher clock speeds. I'm just expressing that in my uses, I've never seen any reason to clock past 1ghz, not to mention the increased battery drain of overclocking in most cases
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Somwletimes custom roms includes a different kernel that are already overclocked. Some people tend to missed this.
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I am going to be getting an Atrix in the next few days and will install the Aura ROM right off the bat, but im wandering, since it appears to use an OC'ing kernal, what effect will this have on heat and battery life? presumably negative, but how much so? i dont want another phone which heats up like mad, but i do like the look of the ROM. please help out an Android n00b
thanks
Just because it can overclock doesn't mean you have to. I use set cpu and keep mine undervolted and set to 1.1ghz. Idle around 30 celsius and when I game it gets up to 50 degrees.
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the atrix on stock 1.0 ghz gets REALLY hot so yea i would assume it would just get hotter MUCH hotter but you can get a setcpu and just set your processor down when you dont use it much or make profiles to automatically do it
great, so the rom just allows OCing, not forces it? thats good to know, thanks
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great, so the rom just allows OCing, not forces it? thats good to know, thanks
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it will automatically clock itself to 1.3ghz, you'll need a program like SetCPU or PimpMyCPU to set it to not OC itself.
i suggest SetCPU myself, it can be found on the market. i prefer buying it over getting it for free here on XDA, we gotta support our devs right?
i want to know if its safe to overclock my samsung vibrant to 1200 mhz. will doing that shorten the life of my phone in any way.
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i want to know if its safe to overclock my samsung vibrant to 1200 mhz. will doing that shorten the life of my phone in any way.
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It will definitely shorten the life of the battery. As for the phone itself I can't really say. I used to use my vibrant @ 1200mhz daily while running bionix 1.3.1. I never really noticed any wear and tear from the overclocking. If your phone runs warm while overclocking you should really consider running the stock voltages. Your phone may overheat and fry your cpu gpu with the high temperatures. So be careful when overclocking.
Meh i dont completely agree...
It will only shorter the life of your battery because the processor will draw about 20% more power which is very small compared to the like 20x more power the lcd takes up.. i dont think youll feel the difference.
The heating up i disagree with too since ive seen processors reach boiling point of water and continue to work.. thats not to say they all will but ive oced my phone to 1.6ghz to benchmark for several minutes and it never got above 41*... the battery heats up alot more when its charging than the processor does most of the time so i wouldnt worry tooo much about that.
Now as to whether the phones llife will lower... yes probably.. youre putting more stress on the processor than if you dont oc.. honestly tho, processors dont die very often so i oc all day as my daily runner, usually to 1.4ghz if my kernel will do it..
Up to you and honestly all of this is my opinion based on my available info etc.. hope this helps
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I have mine Oc to 1.5 and no issues. 1.5 is the Max I would go.
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Everything I have read says 1200 is completely safe. I run mine at 1460 with no issues. It obviously draws more battery but using Voltage control app you can adjust the level of battery.
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You would be fine with 1.2Ghz, but look into a kernel that supports some slick CPU scalers (smartass is a good, easy choice). You can set that (1.2Ghz) as a max clock and you can let the scaler determine how it gets there (if need be). Running only 2 clocks (OC and deep sleep) seems a bit overkill to me, but to each their own.
Like everyone else said, you ought to be perfectly fine with that value.
The highest I would go is 1500 though
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You would be fine with 1.2Ghz, but look into a kernel that supports some slick CPU scalers (smartass is a good, easy choice). You can set that (1.2Ghz) as a max clock and you can let the scaler determine how it gets there (if need be). Running only 2 clocks (OC and deep sleep) seems a bit overkill to me, but to each their own.
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Lol, running an overclock on a phone seems a bit overkill to me...
Think about this.. How much copper is strapped up to your phones cpu?
Would you overclock your desktop on a stock cooler?
I feel sorry for the saps who buy phones second hand(especially after reading this thread). (hey wait a minute, that's me too.. Lol)
I never overclock anything.
Ever.
(learned my lesson with an amd Duron 733 back in the day)
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I am experiencing lag on real racing 3, on high graphics. If I overclock to say 2ghz on cpu, will the tablet be stable enough? Should I undervolt ( and does it actually make any difference on temps)? I want to overclock but not at the cost of huge battery drain, can some1 recommend me a good kernel and some stable oc steps?
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lvnatic said:
I am experiencing lag on real racing 3, on high graphics. If I overclock to say 2ghz on cpu, will the tablet be stable enough? Should I undervolt ( and does it actually make any difference on temps)? I want to overclock but not at the cost of huge battery drain, can some1 recommend me a good kernel and some stable oc steps?
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Are you running a custom ROM and kernel? I play RR3 daily and have NO lag. AOKP PUB ROM with ktmanta kernel, at 1.7mhz CPU and GPU OC to 720. Runs great.
Most OC is safe, issues are really with battery and overheating. I've run for long periods at 1900 just fine.
So there's no way the tablet will melt down because of the heat? Does warranty cover that? Assuming they don't know it was overclocked, which they couldn't because the device would be dead, right? I guess they don't bother to repair it and see if it was rooted.
LE: btw did you manage to safely undervolt? Even a -5 gives me reboots on most freqs.
Any time I try to use the app from the store to set the graphics mode it causes problems. Running RR3 without it works fine.
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So there's no way the tablet will melt down because of the heat? Does warranty cover that? Assuming they don't know it was overclocked, which they couldn't because the device would be dead, right? I guess they don't bother to repair it and see if it was rooted.
LE: btw did you manage to safely undervolt? Even a -5 gives me reboots on most freqs.
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Take a look at the KTmanta thread. KTmanta is a great option for what you are after, he notes and codes distinctions between clocking and thermal protection, plus unless you lock the settings, they will reset at reboot!
If you tell Google you messed it up from some sort of tinkering, no - they won't help you.
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So there's no way the tablet will melt down because of the heat? Does warranty cover that? Assuming they don't know it was overclocked, which they couldn't because the device would be dead, right? I guess they don't bother to repair it and see if it was rooted.
LE: btw did you manage to safely undervolt? Even a -5 gives me reboots on most freqs.
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I am assuming you must be using the KTmanta kernel right? I thought it was the only kernel right now that allows for user control undervolting. Trinity has a static -50mv value set on all frequencies by default. You should be able to undervolt just about everything. Getting lockups at -5mv lets me think there is something you are not doing correctly
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I am assuming you must be using the KTmanta kernel right? I thought it was the only kernel right now that allows for user control undervolting. Trinity has a static -50mv value set on all frequencies by default. You should be able to undervolt just about everything. Getting lockups at -5mv lets me think there is something you are not doing correctly
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Yes, the kernel
Edit: oops thought you were asking me, I see now I was confused.