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I am using the Imate PPCPE with the latest ROM and Radio Stack. The phone has been working fine ever since I've had it (few months now) but since two or three days ago, I have noticed that if I have been in an area where the phone can not find a signal or has very low signal strength (basement or elevator etc.) when I come out into the area where there should be normal (strong) signal strength, even then the phone doesnt automatically find a signal and come back online... instead i still get the antenna with no signal bars until i reset the device.
As far as I can remember I haven't installed any new software in the last week to have caused this.. otherwise I am running Wisbar Advance 2 and Spb Plus and Pocket Breeze and stuff... but all this has been on there for many months but this issue only started in the past couple of days.
Has anyone experienced this with their device? Is it software related or is it hardware? Will a hard reset fix it? Any other experiences?
This was a not uncommon problem with early XDA II's with the ROM V1.03, but recent ROM updates seemed to have cured it.
It got so bad with some users, that the continuous signal seek drained both the main and backup batteries, causing a hard reset. From ROM 1.60 this was "cured" as the phone module now powers off once the battery gets critical.
It could be a hardware fault in your case, especially if you are experiencing the problem in areas that used to be OK. May be worth trying a hard reset? What ROM/Radio are you using?
Rom: 1.72.00WWE
Radio:1.14.00
Well a hard reset seems to have fixed the issue. Now let me try to notice if adding new software affects this.
Thanks
Signal strength still very low
Its still not fixed.
The signal strength is very poor in general. In areas where its supposed to have a FULL signal, its less than full and where the signal is already not so strong, there's no signal. All i get is "SEARCHING" (for signal). Why is this happening? everything was just fine a few weeks ago.
Its very annoying because frequently when i look at my phone, I see a "searching" message and everyone's complaining why my phone is always off.
Is this something that can just happen out of the blue in a fully normal phone? It this software related or a hardware issue?
Any similar experiences? any recommendations?
Ive recently started getting this too.
I upgraded to the latest 1.72 o2 rom, maybe its an issue with the radio stack in that?
I didnt used to get it at all.
Its a problem when you come out of a lift, or from the tube. You have to reset it everytime!
For me, I dont think its related to the new ROM. Because my device always had the latest ROM (1.72WWE) and the radio stack but it never happened until recently.
And I upgraded my ROM to the newest WM2003SE (2.06WWE) and Radio but the issue is still there.
I am beginning to think its a hardware related issue.
What did you do about it Pyrofer? Is it fixed on your device now? What device do you have? Mine is an Imate.
could be hardware bro...... how about trying on 1.08 radio rom? when i reverted back to 1.08 my signal level increased... i was also annoyed by that signal searching stuff.. goodluck
Z-man said:
could be hardware bro...... how about trying on 1.08 radio rom? when i reverted back to 1.08 my signal level increased... i was also annoyed by that signal searching stuff.. goodluck
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@Z-man
i was trying to do the same, i wanted to use radio 1.10 with OS 2.02t1 but i got error code :123! it seems i can't use older radio stack!
how did you do it? i can jump between radio 1.14, 1.14a, 1.18 but i could not go older version!
one more thing should i reflash every thing to update only radio?and could you post your radio stack?
thanx man.
Iput together the upgrde to wMSE in one folder, then replaced the orig. radio rom with 1.08..
I used er2003edit to check if the language and operator was the same as i have in my unit... e.g. WWE and O2.
then i plug the charger in the cradle clicked on the upgrde prgram
then all went well.. i have 1.06 bootloader....
I have tried radio roms 1.14, 1.17 but i eventually reverted to 1.08
thanks to am-imate for the radio rom
OK I'll also try the new (I mean older, 1.08 Radio).
How do I know what version of bootloader I have?
More importantly, what role does the boot loader play in this whole ROM upgrading thing?
When we upgrade from WM2003 to WM2003SE we know we are doing it for some new features and stuff... when we upgrade radio, it must be the same, so what are the differences between the 1.08 and 1.18 Radio? why would an older one be more stable?
the boot loader version 1.06 they say does not allow downgrade.....maybe of o/s rom.
to check for boot loader version, push navi key+power button+reset button. be warned though, this would equal a hard reset....
radio roms had their revisions... hence, 1.08,1.14,1.17,1.18...
i monitored the my signal levels using 1.08 through 1.17 and observed that 1.08 is better for my unit.. goodluck dude
No problem... I was on a quest earlier on in the year to get as many radio ROM's as possible, but couldn't get anything earlier than 1.08.
I have the same problem, I actually had a 1.06 Radio ROM that I blasted away by accident that used to work really well. I'm on 1.18 and have difficulties, so I'll probably drop back down to 1.08 on my next hard reset.
What appears to be happening in my case is the phone searches out a 900Mhz signal first (which in my case is another carrier and is stronger than the 1800/1900Mhz) and sits there and doesn't go on to scan the 1800 and 1900Mhz bands.
am-imate
cool bro!... I'll se if i find 1.06 and maybe post it here
Ive done nothing about it.
I just put up with frequent resets at the moment.
Ive unticked ALL other carriers in the networks settings now to see if that helps. I have the latest o2 rom with the latest radio version in that.
I dont think its hardware as I havent done anything that would damage it in any way.
Unless it breaks itself from just being in my pocket.
(solution at the bottom of this post)
Hey, ive searched for a little while now and i havnt found a solution, so if i missed it im sorry just point me in the rigth direction. In the mean time, here is my issue:
Its the same issue with:
4.5
4.9
5.0
(these are the only onces ive used)
all downloaded from:
http://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/
now ive wiped before flashing each update, and even wiped after the update, ive even gone back to rc29 and then trying again
when i get the phone to finish booting up, my radio gives me issues, it will show full bars, then none, then full, then none, never showing edge, so i go into wireless settings and realize that every 20 seconds or so, airplain mode is coming on for a half a second then going back off, without me clicking it, but when it does this, it never shows the airplane icon where it does if i click it myself in the top status bar
now if i manage to dial out a call at the right time, it will keep the full bars, and dial out properly, i can have a half hour phone call or longer without a problem, when i hang up, i have full bars AND edge for atleast a hour or so, and then i drop edge all of the suddon and go back into the airplane loop, inwhich a simple phone call (even to voicemail) fixes it temporarily
this issue happens as soon as i reboot the phone as well, as it starts up, it shows no connection, then emergency calls only, then tmobile, and repeats
when under mobile settings when trying to select a network manually if im lucky for it to show tmobile and at&t, 90% of the time it tells me it cant connect to tmobile due to my sim. if i keep clicking it it will say registering to network, but it will stay in the loop with the airplane mode flickering on and off
again, if this is something stupid im missing, or if its been explained elsewhere, my bad just point me in the right direction, but either im not searching for the right thing or ive just completely missed it, either way, someone help me before i have to go back to JF 1.42, im really enjoying this magic port
Ok, so thanks to the suggestion to "update the radio" and Google for pointing me in the right direction. I did as follows, and so far, so good.
Download this file to SD card
http://sapphire-port-dream.googlecode.com/files/Saphire-Radio-Update (rc33).zip
Saphire-Radio-Update (rc33).zip Sapphire Radio 2.22.19.23
Rename it update.zip
Reboot Phone in Recovery
(I wiped, this may not be needed, but I did anyway)
Alt + S to install the update
the phone will ask you to do the home + back to reboot, press it and it will do a few other things, including reboot into a screen with a arror pointing at a microchip, then it will reboot back into recovery
hit the home + back yet again to perform another reboot and it will boot up normally and so far, ive yet to have an issue with my radio after this
wootroot-
THANK GOD I AM NOT ALONE!!!!
This problem has been plaguing me as well with all of these new builds!!!
Ultimately I ended up going back to JF 1.42 MOD because I needed a working phone.
I flashed to 5.0G tonight... and its doing the same thing... radio on then radio off. I tried flashing to the new Sapphire radio... nothing works.
I would love for someone to come up with a working solution.
Thanks!
Web
webgrafix said:
wootroot-
THANK GOD I AM NOT ALONE!!!!
This problem has been plaguing me as well with all of these new builds!!!
Ultimately I ended up going back to JF 1.42 MOD because I needed a working phone.
I flashed to 5.0G tonight... and its doing the same thing... radio on then radio off. I tried flashing to the new Sapphire radio... nothing works.
I would love for someone to come up with a working solution.
Thanks!
Web
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i feel the same way, i thought it was just me
there has to be something im missing, so many other people use these builds without issues like this, there is no way someone could put up with this issue and use the phone as a daily phone reliably
if you want to have 5.0 (well i flashed H not G but im sure it would work regardless) time a phone call to your voicemail when your radio flashes on and when it vibrates saying the call connected, hangup, and everything will be fine for a few hours
do me a favor though, read over the stuff i just added to my first post, see if your phone is doing anything different than mine, that way when someone who comes in here and is able to help, they know exactly what our phones are doing, and hopefully its not just us with this issue and it will get others in the trend of explaining in detail what is wrong with theres, maybe this will help speed up getting a solution lol (wishful thinking?)
I am redoing things once again.... reflash, etc.
Keeping my fingers crossed.
But it's late and I am tired and annoyed.
If it happens again... I will try to make a video of whats happening so others can actually see it.
I thought I was going crazy I'm on 5.0G now the new one which adds busybox but I've been having the same exact problem as the OP but I haven't tried the Sapphire Radio yet but we all seem to experience different issues anyway.
Land Of The Trill said:
I thought I was going crazy I'm on 5.0G now the new one which adds busybox but I've been having the same exact problem as the OP but I haven't tried the Sapphire Radio yet but we all seem to experience different issues anyway.
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no fun, sorry your having issues too, you say we are having different issues, could that be because we are using the HTC code and your using the GOOGLE code? or did i misunderstand you?
can you explain a little more about the sapphire radio vs other radios? ive been trying to understand what the difference is, and how to switch between them, but so far im unable to find a clear answer, so can you tell me the difference and how to switch between them?
thanks for your help
EDIT:
oh and what do you use busybox on the g1 for? i just read up on it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BusyBox) and i have a general idea of what it is now, but whats the use of it on the g1? do you use it as kind of a DOS for the g1? is it more for developers than end users?
This problem has happened to me but seems as all I needed to do was to reupdate the radio. It worked for me!
Mast3rmatt said:
This problem has happened to me but seems as all I needed to do was to reupdate the radio. It worked for me!
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thanks man, i just did that using this radio update, so far (on 5.0) im not having any issues, for the record i did a wipe before updating the radio just to make sure i started fresh
i used this update:
http://sapphire-port-dream.googlecode.com/files/Saphire-Radio-Update (rc33).zip
Saphire-Radio-Update (rc33).zip Sapphire Radio 2.22.19.23
http://sapphire-port-dream.googlecode.com/files/Saphire-Radio-Update (rc33).zip
download this.. all is resolved.
it has been discussed over a hundred times in the original thread.
Still having issues!!!
I am still having these same issues!!!
I posted a video here....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-j5x953Vkw
Its driving me nuts! I downloaded and flashed the Sapphire Radio RC33 twice! Still acting up.
It runs fine in JF1.42MOD.
Any ideas??? Any other radio ROMS I can try?
webgrafix said:
I am still having these same issues!!!
I posted a video here....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-j5x953Vkw
Its driving me nuts! I downloaded and flashed the Sapphire Radio RC33 twice! Still acting up.
It runs fine in JF1.42MOD.
Any ideas??? Any other radio ROMS I can try?
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try reflashing the rom, then do the radio update
Hi all, I've just rooted my phone (Australian release on Optus) and i was wondering if the radio update has regional limitations or not? Because i've heard positive things about it but I don't want to screw my phone up.
webgrafix said:
I am still having these same issues!!!
I posted a video here....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-j5x953Vkw
Its driving me nuts! I downloaded and flashed the Sapphire Radio RC33 twice! Still acting up.
It runs fine in JF1.42MOD.
Any ideas??? Any other radio ROMS I can try?
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did you get it working right? i tried the 5.0h as well and did the sapphire radio update and mine was doing that as well so i went back to jf. i wouldn't mind trying it again if i could actually use my phone. lol
Hello,
I recently flashed the newest CM5.02 and it was fine. Then, yesterday in the middle of the day I noticed that my data had said E, which normally happens, but it never changed back to H (or 3g) no matter where I went, even to spots that I knew had full bars. Im in norcal, anyone else having this problem?
Yeah, mine does this all the time and I'm still stock. Are you on the newest radio as well as newest CM? This is my biggest radio issue.
Here at work where I don't get solid reception I see a lot of fluctuation HSPA to UTMS to EDGE and even down to GPRS sometimes which is fine, I am in a pretty solid bldg and my MT3G would slip as well. Issue is I can't get it back without doing what you did or switching between WCDMA Only then back to WCDMA Preferred basically anything to reset the radio. I notice this happens without fail if I take a call on it. I will lose all data connection until I hang up.
As well, when all this starts up real bad the phone will heat up quite a bit. When I leave my office things appear to be fine.
Didn't have this problem with the stock ROM
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Yeah, mine does this all the time and I'm still stock. Are you on the newest radio as well as newest CM? This is my biggest radio issue.
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I'm using CyanogenMod 5.0.2 and radio 4.04.00.03_2 (from Settings -> About phone -> Baseband version), but I did NOT have this problem with the stock radio after the OTA update (4.03.00.21_2).
I posted a poll about this at Stuck on EDGE with CyanogenMod 5.0.2 until reboot.
dandv said:
I'm using CyanogenMod 5.0.2 and radio 4.04.00.03_2 (from Settings -> About phone -> Baseband version), but I did NOT have this problem with the stock radio after the OTA update (4.03.00.21_2).
I posted a poll about this at Stuck on EDGE with CyanogenMod 5.0.2 until reboot.
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my basband reads..
32.24.00.22U_4.03.00.21_2
How did you fix the issue in the first post?
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my basband reads..
32.24.00.22U_4.03.00.21_2
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That means you have the old ROM. The new one can be found on the CM5.0.2 page.
Also, in your first post, can you mention how you fixed your issue?
FYI: Reverting back to the old radio did not fix the issue.
dandv said:
That means you have the old ROM. The new one can be found on the CM5.0.2 page.
Also, in your first post, can you mention how you fixed your issue?
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I thought i fixed it by forcing it to search for networks then selecting t mobile, this was not a good solution as if it dropped it would not go back.
I have been experiencing some pretty severe radio issues. I have been missing calls without the phone ringing and people have to call me multiple times to get through even when I have great signal. My radio switches to 1x for long periods of time and loses all signal randomly (or it goes back and forth between EvDo and and 1x rapidly). This has just started happening over the last week or two and I live in a large city that normally has really great sprint 3g coverage. Today, I got an error that said something about "insufficient radio resources" so I figure that could be related to the problem. I am running Fresh 2.0d and using the 2.42.00.03.10 radio. I think the problems may have started after I tried to update my PRL, but it seemed to update fine and is currently 60664. Has anyone else had this kind of problem and/or know any fixes? Thanks.
P.S. I hope this is the proper forum for this topic because it's apparently not welcome anymore to ask for help in the Developer forum.
You got the right forum.
Just a quick question:
How recently did you flash the radio 2.42.00.03.10? Did you start having the problems soon after?
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You got the right forum.
Just a quick question:
How recently did you flash the radio 2.42.00.03.10? Did you start having the problems soon after?
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Nah, I'm pretty sure I flashed it with Fresh 2.0d about a day or two after it was released. The problems have been happening more recently. To the best of my knowledge, the only thing that coincided with the problems has been the PRL update. I've tried returning to some old nandroid backups but it has not helped and re-updating the PRL hasn't done anything either.
PRL 60664 is the latest, I believe (I may be wrong) so it *should* not have caused too much of a problem. Ummm... Have you tried flashing another radio just to check?
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PRL 60664 is the latest, I believe (I may be wrong) so it *should* not have caused too much of a problem. Ummm... Have you tried flashing another radio just to check?
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I haven't tried another radio. I'm kind of afraid since I'm getting these weird "insufficient resources" errors and I don't want some random bug to brick my phone.
just putting this out there that last time I had this issue I needed to pay my bill as soon as I did that it went back to normal. I had just flashed a new radio and thought that was the casue of the problems but it was not.
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just putting this out there that last time I had this issue I needed to pay my bill as soon as I did that it went back to normal. I had just flashed a new radio and thought that was the casue of the problems but it was not.
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Lol, was that a joke because that makes no sense to me? My bill is definitely paid, fyi.
EDIT: The problem is still occurring. I thought it was fixed.
Myself and a couple other people experienced stange 3g connection problems while running the cm7 nightlies (among other ROMs) with the new HBOOT-0.35.0017. I know it's been said that HBOOT shouldn't have anything to do with your data connection but nonetheless it is causing problems.
Follow the instructions on this thread to downgrade (AMOLED NEXUS OWNERS ONLY!):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726258
After downgrading back to HBOOT 0.33.0012 my connection problems vanished (still running the same CM7 nightly)
Credit goes to user Prgopala for noticing this and posting here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10902092&postcount=12533
Thanks!
I'm sorry to tell you, but hboot has NOTHING to do with the radio part of the phone: it controls the system partitions table and boots the system... nothing else, it doesn't even touch the RAM parts dedicated to the hardware, the kernel does it.
I almost made up my mind to downgrade until seen the edit part. 3g part of signal is very very frustrating experience on my side while call part rarely let it down. Also signal always in close to100 reading while my Acer liquid on T Mobile stays to perfect 75-80 reading.
I'm on HBOOT-0.35.0017 and sometimes I get x gray bars but after it picks up signal and gets connect to H it seem to work fine. Until I lose the signal or I switch to airplane, etc. Takes a while sometimes to get back signal or the H.
I did notice that when the screen goes off my download stops or sometimes when I download certain files it stops right away. I been updating roms so not sure if it related to them, but overall its been like that.
Tiberx said:
I'm on HBOOT-0.35.0017 and sometimes I get x gray bars but after it picks up signal and gets connect to H it seem to work fine. Until I lose the signal or I switch to airplane, etc. Takes a while sometimes to get back signal or the H.
I did notice that when the screen goes off my download stops or sometimes when I download certain files it stops right away. I been updating roms so not sure if it related to them, but overall its been like that.
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yes screen off downloading stopping is quite annoying...
I dunno but since I upgraded my Hboot and used CM7... my data sucks. It will work then not work. I typically have to reset to get it back. Even switching in and out of airplane mode will not work.
And by 3G I mean my data connection. I'll have full bars and 3G coverage... but no data from the browser, no pings, no online apps, nothing. Seems like the only way to fix it is to reset the phone.
I also noticed my signal is noticeably less at home. Typically I have full bars but now I notice that it's been dropping out and bouncing.
Could be a carrier issue. But I haven't upgraded my radio since 5.08 first came out. I updated my HBoot for the early builds of GB. So I'm willing to test out this theory.
lol, hboot has nothing to do with the phone's radio. The radio version does.
If you're having a problem with the radio (voice/data) then you should look at the radio version you're running.
Again, hboot has nothing to do with your issue.
Ive had the data sticking problem since I got my n1. Remember reading somewhere that if you go into settings - wireless networks - mobile networks - network operators, when it finishes searching select "automatically select". I got T-Mobile & it works for me until the next time I flash a new rom.
FYI when I was on CM 6.1 I had your problems. I then switched to MicroMod777's Gingerbread and those problems disappeared. I've now flashed Enmother's TheOfficial Nexus1 and I'm testing. Absolutely a ROM problem.
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FYI when I was on CM 6.1 I had your problems. I then switched to MicroMod777's Gingerbread and those problems disappeared. I've now flashed Enmother's TheOfficial Nexus1 and I'm testing. Absolutely a ROM problem.
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Kinda the opposite for me. No data issues when i tried CM 6.1.1 but on MM Gingerbread i had no data connection at all!
"You pays your money and you takes your chances"
then it must the crap of our carriers
DirkGently1 said:
Kinda the opposite for me. No data issues when i tried CM 6.1.1 but on MM Gingerbread i had no data connection at all!
"You pays your money and you takes your chances"
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Same here. I tried MM and nothing worked! lol. So I went back to the latest CM7 (#24). I'm not sure what the problem is. Now I'm on an older HBoot and an older Radio. I shoulda just left 5.12 and .35 on there.
Once I get my phone pieced back together, I may try one of the older CM6.1 roms to see if that fixes it. I think we are all using Gingerbread roms here, no? Perhaps that just is an issue that comes with it.
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EDIT: The problem is still occurring. I thought it was fixed.
Myself and a couple other people experienced stange 3g connection problems while running the cm7 nightlies (among other ROMs) with the new HBOOT-0.35.0017. I know it's been said that HBOOT shouldn't have anything to do with your data connection but nonetheless it is causing problems.
Follow the instructions on this thread to downgrade (AMOLED NEXUS OWNERS ONLY!):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726258
After downgrading back to HBOOT 0.33.0012 my connection problems vanished (still running the same CM7 nightly)
Credit goes to user Prgopala for noticing this and posting here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10902092&postcount=12533
Thanks!
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Same issue here, wondering if this hboot is incompatible w/ my old radio.
just received my new nightly, will give this method a try as soon as i upgraded.
thanks!
-- just saw the updated post, thanks anyway
Perhaps the OP should change the title and original message to exclude the HBoot details as the problem is with Data connection.
This will let us continue discussion about the data connection problem that we are, I am at least, experiencing.
Using CM7 #24 from 1/30, it seems to be less of an issue. I notice that I'll have 3G and full bars, but no data will work until it changes to an "H". Seems like it might just be the rom. The latest nightly seems to correct the issue better then before. Now if I open a browser, after 30s-1minute, it will start chugging along.