[Q] Question about rooting/custom roms in general - Epic 4G General

So, I've had my epic since launch day. First android device, came from palm pre. Loving it. It's rooted, custom ROM and everything. I have learned so much about the epic and android so far. Just wondering about rooting other devices.
I guess my main question is does ROM manager play a big part in custom ROMS for other devices. From what I can tell, we don't even need or use ROM manager for the most part. It seems some other devices can just be rooted, then install ROM manager which you can flash clockwork through. Why is it the epic doesn't do it the same? Just curious question. I know all about it with the epic, but other devices I'm still clueless on. Thanks

Yeah I know some of the other devices you dl rom manager and use it to flash cwm recovery. I honestly don't know why koush hasn't made the epic compatible yet.
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musclehead84 said:
Yeah I know some of the other devices you dl rom manager and use it to flash cwm recovery. I honestly don't know why koush hasn't made the epic compatible yet.
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So, this is the reason we don't do it that way? Koush just hasn't made Rom Manager compatible with the Epic? I just figured we started it another way and just stuck to it.

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Root now or wait for froyo?

Hey guys I just got my vibrant back and I was wondering if I should root it, or just wait for froyo to release?
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Joshochoa187 said:
Hey guys I just got my vibrant back and I was wondering if I should root it, or just wait for froyo to release?
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Rooting isn't hard at all. You should go ahead & root now
+1 on the root now. While your at it install a custom rom and you will love your phone. Odds are you can get the Froyo update right here before it hits OTA anyways.
Yeah I've rooted my vibrant before I had to get a new one. It is easy but I would probably have to un root it to update right?
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I don't understand what waiting would do. What you should NOT do is get the Froyo update from T-Mobile, as there is a chance that they will push an update that breaks your ability to root with 2.2 and you will have to wait even longer.
I recommended you root now, install Rom Manager, go to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=813001
Download Fusion 1.1 to your SDCARD (I have a folder called ROMS) and go to Clockwork, reboot into Recovery, Reinstall Packages, Install ZIP from SDCARD, choose Bionix 1.1, wait, and then see what that phone is really capable of.
Using Fusion 1.1 makes me not mind waiting for Froyo.
Yeah you are right it's just I haven't got to comfortable w/ flashing roms just yet. Looks a bit hard I guess I will just keep watching the videos on it till I feel like I can do it
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Flashing roms is super easy as long as you're using ones flashable through rom manager. I must warn you it's very addictive. The only thing I would say is make your you backup in case something goes wrong and avoid Voodoo until you've flashed a few times and feel more comfortable. Great thing is there is tons of support here. I suggest you try Bionix Final.
Well guys I'm pretty convinced I think im going to do it I'm going to look into it thanx alot for your input
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I should still be able to root even tho I did the recent ota right?
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Joshochoa187 said:
I should still be able to root even tho I did the recent ota right?
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Yes you can.
Joshochoa187 said:
Well guys I'm pretty convinced I think im going to do it I'm going to look into it thanx alot for your input
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Dooo eeet!
Yes, it's daunting at first to flash a new ROM, but I just did it for the first time a few weeks ago and it was simple and easy. Just read up as much as you can and then write up a "roadmap" on all the steps you need to take, before, during, and after. It removed a lot of headaches for me because I planned it all out and had all the software ready in case anything went wrong (Odin, stock ROM, etc.). If there are any gaps in your understanding or questions about a process, ask them here before you flash!
I would root it and load a custom ROM, waiting for official OTA update to Froyo is like playing a Russian roulette now. Look what a simple update that was suppsoed to address GPS and other issues did to your fellow TMO users.
As always, there will be people who wouldn't even know that you can root the device to make it your own, so they will always run stock, and complain to TMO when they click MobiTV app and never use it, but have to cough up 10 bucks a month for it (it is just an example).
If you came here you know that you can do something to your phone besides waiting for Froyo, take a full advantage of what is offered in the dev section, and don't forget to support the developers if you like the work they do
Ok I'm reading the thread you posted how do I preform nandroid back up?
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Joshochoa187 said:
Hey guys I just got my vibrant back and I was wondering if I should root it, or just wait for froyo to release?
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If you are going to root, you might as well just do it.
Froyo could easily be 2-3 months down the road yet.
you need ROM manager...
it took me forever to find a how-to on this exact thing.
You have to be rooted in order to accomplish this:
1. root (obviously)
2. download ROM manager
3. open ROM manager and click on 'Flash ClockworkMod Recovery' and pick your phone.
4. click 'Backup Current ROM'
5. Let it do it's thing... it's going to reboot and run in recovery then reboot again.
6. You are done!!
To recover, you have to boot into clockwork recovery and click restore then pick the date file you made to recover to that date!
** If any of this is wrong, please call me out!!
Yeah, I started doing all this before I even discovered ROM Manager and ClockworkMod Recovery. Those tools definitely make everything so much easier.
Make sure you have the following software tools:
ADB
Odin
Rom Manager (w/ ClockworkMod Recovery installed)
Titanium Backup
Also, make sure your phone is not hardware locked before you begin. Try the standard procedure to enter Recovery Mode; if your phone is hardware locked, run the flashable fix (found in the dev forum) so that you have some way of recovering from a soft brick.
From my experiences, rooting has always been the fastest way to get updates. Those rollouts take forever.
Just rooted and installed fusion 1.1 it's great thanx for the tips guys
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Joshochoa187 said:
Just rooted and installed fusion 1.1 it's great thanx for the tips guys
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Way to go!
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lol. i was waiting for a froyo release, i flashed my g1 a bunch so flashing wasn't a big deal, but i was happy with the phone stock for a bit and didn't mind waiting. but i rooted after a week. was flashing smaller things like ji2 gps, getting rid of bloatware, changing bootup/shutdown, etc. a couple weeks later. and a couple weeks after that i started flashing roms.
moral of the story? just root and start flashing now, it's a long wait.

Ehh overwhelmed...

So I wanna get cm on my buddies evo. But after half an hour just browsing around I am pretty overwhelmed on obtaining no frills instructions. Can anyone give me a link or guide on the most recent and quickest way to root and install cwm? The wikis useless to me. Too many methods up there and no way of knowing which is the best and most recent method. Thnx in advance doods.
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Use unrevoked to root, flash CM from recovery.
This is good but it would be faster but less informative to use autoroot. There is or was a link to it on the evo wiki page.
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Use unrevoked to root, flash CM from recovery.
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Autoroot isn't nearly as reliable as Unrevoked. I see too many people posting about borked roots because of autoroot. I've used Unrevoked probably 15 times and have not had a single issue. Here's the how-to for Unrevoked.
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Autoroot isn't nearly as reliable as Unrevoked. I see too many people posting about borked roots because of autoroot. I've used Unrevoked probably 15 times and have not had a single issue. Here's the how-to for Unrevoked.
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I agree unrevoked has worked for me twice with the evo and twice with the hero when I had it. one evo for me one for my dad,one hero for me, one for my friend. Also, cw can b installed through recovery but I recommend flashing amon ra.
Google for rooting for dummies. It's on a different forum but its a complete step by step guide to rooting. And installing tons and kernels and more. It's the First link
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for me.. on my 003 evo.. built in Oct.
this is what I used.
root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
i personally stay away from ROM managers and clockwork... and I have not had any issues.... on my Hero and EVO....
Well my goal is to flash a senseless rom with the fps uncapped. But seeing that there's no unified simple surefire way to even root I think im gonna pass. Everything seems convoluted. Anything out there like 1 click root on the epic? You know all in one root, recovery, etc? Sorry I own an epic and from what im seeing its true what they say. Samsuck makes things easy to flash.
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ok...
gald we could help.
I've used auto root 5 times with no issues. I'm not sure what issues others have had buy nine here so far. I'd give it a try. Off course the PC I did it on I used evolution prior and maybe it was because I had all the driver installed. Idk. Good luck and God speed my friend.
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RushAOZ said:
Well my goal is to flash a senseless rom with the fps uncapped. But seeing that there's no unified simple surefire way to even root I think im gonna pass. Everything seems convoluted. Anything out there like 1 click root on the epic? You know all in one root, recovery, etc? Sorry I own an epic and from what im seeing its true what they say. Samsuck makes things easy to flash.
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Unrevoked is a one click root. It will root and install clockwork in one shot. Check the link I posted.
_MetalHead_ said:
Unrevoked is a one click root. It will root and install clockwork in one shot. Check the link I posted.
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Didn't realize it was one click root now, that's good to here. Last time I used it I had to command line half the hack.
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Lol thanks man. Im doing a bit of research before I jump in. Can't wait to see what this thing can do when released from its shackles.
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on unrevoked can you just do everything via phone? (click on it and let it do it's thing and bam it's rooted?)
r916 said:
on unrevoked can you just do everything via phone? (click on it and let it do it's thing and bam it's rooted?)
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No, it needs to be run from a PC but it's pretty damn easy.
I would suggest once rooted, grab RA Recovery Manager replace Clockwork Mod with it. You get more control over backups with it, plus the backup/restore process seems faster with it.
Download link, plus instructions on how to flash it are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
xfullmetal17 said:
I would suggest once rooted, grab RA Recovery Manager replace Clockwork Mod with it. You get more control over backups with it, plus the backup/restore process seems faster with it.
Download link, plus instructions on how to flash it are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
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+1. RA is the better and more reliable of the two.
The one time I used Autoroot, my phone hung on recovery.
The first time I used Unrevoked, it failed. I used it again, but this time in Linux and it worked fine.
Every phone is different, but the overwhelming consensus is to use Unrevoked
Dan330 said:
for me.. on my 003 evo.. built in Oct.
this is what I used.
root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
i personally stay away from ROM managers and clockwork... and I have not had any issues.... on my Hero and EVO....
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I agree with you, use unrevoked and then flash Amon and stay away from Rom Manager......
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I guess everyphone is different.
I had to use rom manager to load up cm7 nighty. For whatever reason goings into recovery manually and selecting the rom it just hung there for 20 mins. Where as it worked fine with rim manager.
Damn I wish we all had the same experiences with this thing.
playya said:
I agree with you, use unrevoked and then flash Amon and stay away from Rom Manager......
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EVO(CM7•4G)=110°iPWNπ

I am clueless.

Girlfriend has an EVO 4g, is that the same as just an EVO? Can I use koush touch recovery? I have been on vzw 3 years and haven't ever really toyed with this phone.
Edit: Downloaded koush's file and it plainly says supersonic.
Clean ICS Rezound with Touch CWM
Girlfriend has an EVO 4g, is that the same as just an EVO?
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There are many Evo's, Evo 4G, Evo Shift, Evo 3D, etc.
Can I use koush touch recovery?
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It says it's compatible, but with anything that's new, you run into the risk of having problems. ClockworkMod and AmonRA are both trusted and working recoveries.
Using it on my rezound now. Works nice. Missing some Amon features, but I like it so far. Thanks for the input though.
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ClockworkMod and AmonRA are both trusted and working recoveries.
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Just a quick note on this - CWM is known not to wipe properly on the EVO 4G. It also has problems handling EXT partitions. The only completely trusted recovery on the EVO 4G is RA-supersonic.
ya nothing against the devs of CWM but i have had more messed up flashes with it and whether that is my fault or not i have had better results with amonRa just my 2 cents from personal experience i've heard it works great still tho
Yeah. I just saw a post over in the Nova launcher thread where a guy was trying to wipe and found that CWM wasn't wiping his dalvik (which is the same we've seen here on this forum for years), he had to manually delete via root explorer.
I don't mean any disrespect to any devs, either, but it is a widely known issue.
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[Q] Been away - what's my next move after Royal Ginger 1.6?

Hi guys,
I don't like when people post "how do I root my phone?" when you can search 100 threads to root your phone, so I was hesitant to post this, but I've been away a year or whatever it's been, and I see a whole bunch of new ROMS that are totally unfamiliar to me.
I chose Royal Ginger 1.6 (based on android 2.3.3) way back when (still have it) because I thought it was a stable, non-SENSE plain android ROM that was much faster than the sense that came with my mytough 4g. And I was right. I know it was updated to 2.0 and then the DEV stopped, or whatever the demise was.
I didn't update to 2.0 at the time since I have one of the "bad chips", so it wasn't compelling enough to risk something that was working fine.
I'm getting the itch again to update my phone - it's cheaper than getting a new 4.0 phone and a new contract and $$$. Figured if I slap jelly bean on this it'll make it feel like I got a free upgrade.
Mostly I'm after something that is solid and not something I'd look back and say "why didnt I just leave well-enough lone?" where I'd lose functionality in things I'm used to. (camera etc)
What's the new Royal Ginger nowadays? What's the no brainer ROM to flash when reliability and compatibility is concerned?
Should I go back to entertaining CM nightlies? It seems that some of the andoid v3 ROMS are stable, and what about andoid v4-- isnt that too much of a reach to make compatible with this aging glacier that we have? Not too buggy to use a jelly bean aopk 4.x.x on this?
Thanks for any input
If u wanna stay aosp wuth everything working I suggest cm7.2 stable or nightly that GB For ICS/JB I suggested AospX, or Dark Jellybelly or the port O.O all pretty stable with little to no bugs
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for aospx, you mean this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1684835
if so, looks like plain android base of ICS, plus optimizations.
that sounds like what i need. still looking, but this is a good candidate.
funny, when you dont think of these things for a year, you get wobbly on the details.
i still have rom manager on my phone, with root and s=off, i'll have to read the talking points on how to update to make sure i do it right the 1st time...
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for aospx, you mean this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1684835
if so, looks like plain android base of ICS, plus optimizations.
that sounds like what i need. still looking, but this is a good candidate.
funny, when you dont think of these things for a year, you get wobbly on the details.
i still have rom manager on my phone, with root and s=off, i'll have to read the talking points on how to update to make sure i do it right the 1st time...
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I plan on building the milestone release tonight, so go ahead and take your time into getting back into things (unless you're eager to try BR7 ). I might be able to get it released tonight as well if everything goes right.
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Thanks man. Read on another thread here you released the milestone or RC. I'll have to check it out.
question for you or anyone else reading this - maybe on that other thread I read about a guy who got into some boot loop trying to flash your rom I think the BR7 iteration, when he way trying to upgrade from royal ginger.
As I said that's the rom I have on there now, and so my brain brain froze a little while reading that.
Any people upgrading from Royal Ginger to this? Hey bootloop guy - did you ever get past your problem? (I think the responses to your post were to wipe again, reflash, etc etc, but I think you said you did that)
Thanks
acsi007 said:
Thanks man. Read on another thread here you released the milestone or RC. I'll have to check it out.
question for you or anyone else reading this - maybe on that other thread I read about a guy who got into some boot loop trying to flash your rom I think the BR7 iteration, when he way trying to upgrade from royal ginger.
As I said that's the rom I have on there now, and so my brain brain froze a little while reading that.
Any people upgrading from Royal Ginger to this? Hey bootloop guy - did you ever get past your problem? (I think the responses to your post were to wipe again, reflash, etc etc, but I think you said you did that)
Thanks
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He likely had an older version of clockwordmod (someone else had similar trouble on another ics/jb rom) so just make sure you update it if you haven't in a while. I'd also suggest using 4ext if you're not using it already as people on cwm seem to be having trouble using it with the OTA Updater. Also, it allows you to wipe everything you need to flash a rom with just one option.
I'm on royal ginger 1.6 from way last year, and am ready to flash your aospx mr1.
I have ROM manager 5.0.2.1 and with that I flashed CWM Recovery (it downloaded it over data network nice and fast), just 2 days ago, so it must be the latest.
So you're saying that 4ext may be less prone to error... If I go with that, where does that leave ROM Manager, it stays installed- there's no reason to uninstall it? And the CWM recovery? Does 4ext flash its recovery right over my existing CWM recovery?
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I'm on royal ginger 1.6 from way last year, and am ready to flash your aospx mr1.
I have ROM manager 5.0.2.1 and with that I flashed CWM Recovery (it downloaded it over data network nice and fast), just 2 days ago, so it must be the latest.
So you're saying that 4ext may be less prone to error... If I go with that, where does that leave ROM Manager, it stays installed- there's no reason to uninstall it? And the CWM recovery? Does 4ext flash its recovery right over my existing CWM recovery?
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You can still use ROM Manager with 4ext. Yes, just flash it right over.
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NEED HELP! I rooted my phone, but I can't install a custom ROM in it so I wanna undo!

I have HTC Mytouch 4g, it was on gingerbread, and I downgraded it to froyo so that I can root it. Then after i rooted it, I tried to install the Android_Revolution HD on it but I got stuck on the stage where I need to install the ROM. When I hit apply update.zip, it just fails. So I just stopped trying. Then when I was trying to install apps from google play store, it wouldn't let me install any apps, it says no connection. It's been annoying, and now I can't even download apps. So I decided I just want to undo all the rooting and downgrading, is that possible? Can someone help me or link me the guide/steps on how to just set my phone back to stock ROM and unroot it. ?
There is a root/unroot guide stickied in the dev section.
Amazing that you would do all that work and then give up. What recovery are you using?
Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.
You're not supposed to click hit the part with apply update.zip, you're supposed to go down to where it says choose zip from SD card.
Choose SD card from zip select ROM then flash.
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GOT IT!
Thanks everyone for the help. I finally got it working, I installed the Royal Ginger 3.0 ROM on my htc mytouch 4g, and it's so smooth and fast.
Way better than the stock mytouch 4g lol. Now I'm thinking about unrooting the device following the steps on this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924923
Also, I wonder if there's a stable, smooth, and fast ROM that is already out for the Samsung Galaxy SIII. I'm thinking about rooting my new phone and installing a custom ROM on it.
heartyclair said:
Thanks everyone for the help. I finally got it working, I installed the Royal Ginger 3.0 ROM on my htc mytouch 4g, and it's so smooth and fast.
Way better than the stock mytouch 4g lol. Now I'm thinking about unrooting the device following the steps on this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924923
Also, I wonder if there's a stable, smooth, and fast ROM that is already out for the Samsung Galaxy SIII. I'm thinking about rooting my new phone and installing a custom ROM on it.
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If you're thinking of selling it or keeping it, I'd suggest leaving it rooted. Either way, it's better. Only thing I'd worry about is if a kid was going to use it.
Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.
Slow Down and Take a Breath.
If you ran into a simple mistake like "update.zip" on the S3, there isn't a vast library with every unbrick method like the MT4G. If you're that close to upgrading, perfect your flashing skills on a phone that you don't have to live with for the next two years. If you brick this phone, you can always go into the store with "This thing finally quit on me. Gimme Sammy 3." It's also a wonderful chance to try out every ROM out there.
Just my two dimes and a nickle.

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